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My daughter just texted me. Her husband (my son-in-law) is an electrician and has work booked ahead for almost a year. Problem now is he can't pull the necessary permits because most of the town halls and their permit offices are all closing because of this virus thing. -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com |
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Mr. Luddite
My daughter just texted me. Her husband (my son-in-law) is an electrician and has work booked ahead for almost a year. Problem now is he can't pull the necessary permits because most of the town halls and their permit offices are all closing because of this virus thing. -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com —- That’s bad. So sorry |
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On Mon, 16 Mar 2020 16:23:50 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:
My daughter just texted me. Her husband (my son-in-law) is an electrician and has work booked ahead for almost a year. Problem now is he can't pull the necessary permits because most of the town halls and their permit offices are all closing because of this virus thing. My neighbor is the event manager at an upscale DC restaurant (The Monocle). The DC mayor just closed all the restaurants in town. Not good. -- Freedom Isn't Free! |
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On 3/16/2020 7:05 PM, Adorable Deplorable wrote:
On Mon, 16 Mar 2020 16:23:50 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: My daughter just texted me. Her husband (my son-in-law) is an electrician and has work booked ahead for almost a year. Problem now is he can't pull the necessary permits because most of the town halls and their permit offices are all closing because of this virus thing. My neighbor is the event manager at an upscale DC restaurant (The Monocle). The DC mayor just closed all the restaurants in town. Not good. -- Freedom Isn't Free! Same here. All restaurants closed for the next month at which time the situation will be re-evaluated. Those that have traditionally offered take-out can continue that but not if they hadn't offered it before. Also, all schools, bars are closed, fitness centers limited to 25 people, theaters and any other public place that normally has large numbers of people. (probably will be reduced to 10 people or closed altogether). One of the popular supermarkets up here just announced they will open early starting this Thursday for seniors only from 6am to 7:30am Gonna be interesting in how they enforce that. I can see fights in the parking lot over toilet paper. -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com |
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Mr. Luddite wrote:
My daughter just texted me. Her husband (my son-in-law) is an electrician and has work booked ahead for almost a year. Problem now is he can't pull the necessary permits because most of the town halls and their permit offices are all closing because of this virus thing. I am supposed to,renew,my drivers license this month. I think it will be expired before renewal. |
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Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/16/2020 7:05 PM, Adorable Deplorable wrote: On Mon, 16 Mar 2020 16:23:50 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: My daughter just texted me. Her husband (my son-in-law) is an electrician and has work booked ahead for almost a year. Problem now is he can't pull the necessary permits because most of the town halls and their permit offices are all closing because of this virus thing. My neighbor is the event manager at an upscale DC restaurant (The Monocle). The DC mayor just closed all the restaurants in town. Not good. -- Freedom Isn't Free! Same here. All restaurants closed for the next month at which time the situation will be re-evaluated. Those that have traditionally offered take-out can continue that but not if they hadn't offered it before. Also, all schools, bars are closed, fitness centers limited to 25 people, theaters and any other public place that normally has large numbers of people. (probably will be reduced to 10 people or closed altogether). One of the popular supermarkets up here just announced they will open early starting this Thursday for seniors only from 6am to 7:30am Gonna be interesting in how they enforce that. I can see fights in the parking lot over toilet paper. Just got the Safeway ad. TP even on sale. Limit 12 rolls. I ordered my list for Store pickup. I guess so many are ordering on line, can not,pick up until Thursday. |
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On Mon, 16 Mar 2020 19:21:06 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: On 3/16/2020 7:05 PM, Adorable Deplorable wrote: On Mon, 16 Mar 2020 16:23:50 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: My daughter just texted me. Her husband (my son-in-law) is an electrician and has work booked ahead for almost a year. Problem now is he can't pull the necessary permits because most of the town halls and their permit offices are all closing because of this virus thing. My neighbor is the event manager at an upscale DC restaurant (The Monocle). The DC mayor just closed all the restaurants in town. Not good. -- Freedom Isn't Free! Same here. All restaurants closed for the next month at which time the situation will be re-evaluated. Those that have traditionally offered take-out can continue that but not if they hadn't offered it before. Also, all schools, bars are closed, fitness centers limited to 25 people, theaters and any other public place that normally has large numbers of people. (probably will be reduced to 10 people or closed altogether). One of the popular supermarkets up here just announced they will open early starting this Thursday for seniors only from 6am to 7:30am Gonna be interesting in how they enforce that. I can see fights in the parking lot over toilet paper. OK we have put this economy in a supersonic dive. Lets just hope they decide to pull out before it is too late. Did you hear, the British government is not doing this. Johnson says herd immunity is the way to go and they are not shutting down anything. https://www.itv.com/news/2020-03-12/british-government-wants-uk-to-acquire-coronavirus-herd-immunity-writes-robert-peston/ One of the quotes they had on a NBC morning show was "We are not going to destroy our economy over a virus that will still be around when we come out of hiding". (or words to that effect) They threw all their money at NHS. |
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On Tue, 17 Mar 2020 00:13:04 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 3/16/2020 7:05 PM, Adorable Deplorable wrote: On Mon, 16 Mar 2020 16:23:50 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: My daughter just texted me. Her husband (my son-in-law) is an electrician and has work booked ahead for almost a year. Problem now is he can't pull the necessary permits because most of the town halls and their permit offices are all closing because of this virus thing. My neighbor is the event manager at an upscale DC restaurant (The Monocle). The DC mayor just closed all the restaurants in town. Not good. -- Freedom Isn't Free! Same here. All restaurants closed for the next month at which time the situation will be re-evaluated. Those that have traditionally offered take-out can continue that but not if they hadn't offered it before. Also, all schools, bars are closed, fitness centers limited to 25 people, theaters and any other public place that normally has large numbers of people. (probably will be reduced to 10 people or closed altogether). One of the popular supermarkets up here just announced they will open early starting this Thursday for seniors only from 6am to 7:30am Gonna be interesting in how they enforce that. I can see fights in the parking lot over toilet paper. Just got the Safeway ad. TP even on sale. Limit 12 rolls. I ordered my list for Store pickup. I guess so many are ordering on line, can not,pick up until Thursday. I have to take Pop to PT tomorrow so I will stop by Publix and see how bad it really is. The only thing I wanted the other day that was sold out was bread. I ended getting some fresh from the bakery. It was actually a nice change from factory bread. |
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On 3/16/2020 8:07 PM, Bill wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote: My daughter just texted me. Her husband (my son-in-law) is an electrician and has work booked ahead for almost a year. Problem now is he can't pull the necessary permits because most of the town halls and their permit offices are all closing because of this virus thing. I am supposed to,renew,my drivers license this month. I think it will be expired before renewal. Mrs. E"s license expired last month. She went to renew it and found out that even to get a new "standard" license (not the RealID type) she still needed to present a birth certificate to prove she's a resident. Didn't know that. She's had a MA license for 54 years but *now* she has to prove she lives here. So, she hunted for her birth certificate from 70 years ago. She couldn't find it. We contacted the city clerk in the town in which she was born and ordered a certified copy. Took forever to get. Meanwhile, she was driving occasionally with an expired license. Finally got the certificate but now the RMV is closed due to the coronavirus. Can't renew on-line because she has to show the birth certificate. Round and round we go. -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com |
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- show quoted text - Mrs. E"s license expired last month. She went to renew it and found out that even to get a new "standard" license (not the RealID type) she still needed to present a birth certificate to prove she's a resident. Didn't know that. She's had a MA license for 54 years but *now* she has to prove she lives here. So, she hunted for her birth certificate from 70 years ago. She couldn't find it. We contacted the city clerk in the town in which she was born and ordered a certified copy. Took forever to get. Meanwhile, she was driving occasionally with an expired license. Finally got the certificate but now the RMV is closed due to the coronavirus. Can't renew on-line because she has to show the birth certificate. Round and round we go. - show quoted text - ..—- Dealing with Bureaucrats can make for a fun life... |
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Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/16/2020 8:07 PM, Bill wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: My daughter just texted me. Her husband (my son-in-law) is an electrician and has work booked ahead for almost a year. Problem now is he can't pull the necessary permits because most of the town halls and their permit offices are all closing because of this virus thing. I am supposed to,renew,my drivers license this month. I think it will be expired before renewal. Mrs. E"s license expired last month. She went to renew it and found out that even to get a new "standard" license (not the RealID type) she still needed to present a birth certificate to prove she's a resident. Didn't know that. She's had a MA license for 54 years but *now* she has to prove she lives here. So, she hunted for her birth certificate from 70 years ago. She couldn't find it. We contacted the city clerk in the town in which she was born and ordered a certified copy. Took forever to get. Meanwhile, she was driving occasionally with an expired license. Finally got the certificate but now the RMV is closed due to the coronavirus. Can't renew on-line because she has to show the birth certificate. Round and round we go. I need the real ID stuff. Which I have, passport works, But have to take the written (computer) test tho. |
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On Tue, 17 Mar 2020 03:11:59 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: On 3/16/2020 8:07 PM, Bill wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: My daughter just texted me. Her husband (my son-in-law) is an electrician and has work booked ahead for almost a year. Problem now is he can't pull the necessary permits because most of the town halls and their permit offices are all closing because of this virus thing. I am supposed to,renew,my drivers license this month. I think it will be expired before renewal. Mrs. E"s license expired last month. She went to renew it and found out that even to get a new "standard" license (not the RealID type) she still needed to present a birth certificate to prove she's a resident. Didn't know that. She's had a MA license for 54 years but *now* she has to prove she lives here. So, she hunted for her birth certificate from 70 years ago. She couldn't find it. We contacted the city clerk in the town in which she was born and ordered a certified copy. Took forever to get. Meanwhile, she was driving occasionally with an expired license. Finally got the certificate but now the RMV is closed due to the coronavirus. Can't renew on-line because she has to show the birth certificate. Round and round we go. They should be OK with a passport and for some strange reason, a utility bill. |
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On 3/17/2020 12:41 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 17 Mar 2020 03:11:59 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 3/16/2020 8:07 PM, Bill wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: My daughter just texted me. Her husband (my son-in-law) is an electrician and has work booked ahead for almost a year. Problem now is he can't pull the necessary permits because most of the town halls and their permit offices are all closing because of this virus thing. I am supposed to,renew,my drivers license this month. I think it will be expired before renewal. Mrs. E"s license expired last month. She went to renew it and found out that even to get a new "standard" license (not the RealID type) she still needed to present a birth certificate to prove she's a resident. Didn't know that. She's had a MA license for 54 years but *now* she has to prove she lives here. So, she hunted for her birth certificate from 70 years ago. She couldn't find it. We contacted the city clerk in the town in which she was born and ordered a certified copy. Took forever to get. Meanwhile, she was driving occasionally with an expired license. Finally got the certificate but now the RMV is closed due to the coronavirus. Can't renew on-line because she has to show the birth certificate. Round and round we go. They should be OK with a passport and for some strange reason, a utility bill. Her passport expired a few years ago. It was confusing because initially the MA RMV website listed documents required for the "RealId" type license but not for the renewal of a "standard" license. You can do either. Up until now all you had to do to renew a standard license was to take an eye test and you got a new license. You could also renew on-line if the eye test wasn't required in the renewal schedule. But now they require proof of residency for the standard license as well, including birth certificate. Anyway, she now has everything she needs to get the "RealId" type except the RMV isn't open. -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com |
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On Tue, 17 Mar 2020 12:52:45 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: On 3/17/2020 12:41 PM, wrote: On Tue, 17 Mar 2020 03:11:59 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 3/16/2020 8:07 PM, Bill wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: My daughter just texted me. Her husband (my son-in-law) is an electrician and has work booked ahead for almost a year. Problem now is he can't pull the necessary permits because most of the town halls and their permit offices are all closing because of this virus thing. I am supposed to,renew,my drivers license this month. I think it will be expired before renewal. Mrs. E"s license expired last month. She went to renew it and found out that even to get a new "standard" license (not the RealID type) she still needed to present a birth certificate to prove she's a resident. Didn't know that. She's had a MA license for 54 years but *now* she has to prove she lives here. So, she hunted for her birth certificate from 70 years ago. She couldn't find it. We contacted the city clerk in the town in which she was born and ordered a certified copy. Took forever to get. Meanwhile, she was driving occasionally with an expired license. Finally got the certificate but now the RMV is closed due to the coronavirus. Can't renew on-line because she has to show the birth certificate. Round and round we go. They should be OK with a passport and for some strange reason, a utility bill. Her passport expired a few years ago. It was confusing because initially the MA RMV website listed documents required for the "RealId" type license but not for the renewal of a "standard" license. You can do either. Up until now all you had to do to renew a standard license was to take an eye test and you got a new license. You could also renew on-line if the eye test wasn't required in the renewal schedule. But now they require proof of residency for the standard license as well, including birth certificate. Anyway, she now has everything she needs to get the "RealId" type except the RMV isn't open. A lot of DMVs are saying renewing your passport is easier than getting a "Real ID" DL without one. I got mine back in about 10 days. I am not quite sure why they can't give you the computer based tests online and your eye doctor can give you a note that gets you past the eye test. (very common here in Florida for old folks) At that point, isn't it just the money they want? They could just take a check or credit card for an online renewal. DMV is just a tax scam anyway. Maybe it is time we admitted it. Florida will renew your license by mail 2 or 3 times before you have to show up. You used to get a sticker, now they just send you a copy of your old license with the dates changed. They admit it is just about the money. |
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Adorable Deplorable Wrote in message:
On Mon, 16 Mar 2020 16:23:50 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:My daughter just texted me. Her husband (my son-in-law) is anelectrician and has work booked ahead for almost a year.Problem now is he can't pull the necessary permits becausemost of the town halls and their permit offices are allclosing because of this virus thing.My neighbor is the event manager at an upscale DC restaurant (The Monocle). TheDC mayor just closed all the restaurants in town. Not good.--Freedom Isn't Free! That's bad news for Fat Harry. -- .. ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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On Tue, 17 Mar 2020 15:45:28 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote: Adorable Deplorable wrote: On Mon, 16 Mar 2020 22:29:42 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 17 Mar 2020 00:13:04 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 3/16/2020 7:05 PM, Adorable Deplorable wrote: On Mon, 16 Mar 2020 16:23:50 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: My daughter just texted me. Her husband (my son-in-law) is an electrician and has work booked ahead for almost a year. Problem now is he can't pull the necessary permits because most of the town halls and their permit offices are all closing because of this virus thing. My neighbor is the event manager at an upscale DC restaurant (The Monocle). The DC mayor just closed all the restaurants in town. Not good. -- Freedom Isn't Free! Same here. All restaurants closed for the next month at which time the situation will be re-evaluated. Those that have traditionally offered take-out can continue that but not if they hadn't offered it before. Also, all schools, bars are closed, fitness centers limited to 25 people, theaters and any other public place that normally has large numbers of people. (probably will be reduced to 10 people or closed altogether). One of the popular supermarkets up here just announced they will open early starting this Thursday for seniors only from 6am to 7:30am Gonna be interesting in how they enforce that. I can see fights in the parking lot over toilet paper. Just got the Safeway ad. TP even on sale. Limit 12 rolls. I ordered my list for Store pickup. I guess so many are ordering on line, can not,pick up until Thursday. I have to take Pop to PT tomorrow so I will stop by Publix and see how bad it really is. The only thing I wanted the other day that was sold out was bread. I ended getting some fresh from the bakery. It was actually a nice change from factory bread. The only fresh meat in the counter yesterday afternoon was corned beef, turkey patties, and ground chicken. The rest was gone. Didn't look at toilet paper. If things get really bad, I'll just go poop in the Safeway toilet. Probably be a long line! -- Freedom Isn't Free! Probably no TP. One guy I know of lives in New Mexico. Works at the county gun range 2 days a week. They were teaching a CCW class and 15 minutes after they opened, the women’s bathroom had the tP stolen. My daughter is a physical therapist at a hospital in Savannah. Medical folks are stealing the gloves out of patients' rooms. One of the workers was caught with three boxes of gloves under her smock as she tried to sneak out the door. Unreal. -- Freedom Isn't Free! |
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On Tue, 17 Mar 2020 13:27:29 -0400, wrote:
On Tue, 17 Mar 2020 12:52:45 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 3/17/2020 12:41 PM, wrote: On Tue, 17 Mar 2020 03:11:59 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 3/16/2020 8:07 PM, Bill wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: My daughter just texted me. Her husband (my son-in-law) is an electrician and has work booked ahead for almost a year. Problem now is he can't pull the necessary permits because most of the town halls and their permit offices are all closing because of this virus thing. I am supposed to,renew,my drivers license this month. I think it will be expired before renewal. Mrs. E"s license expired last month. She went to renew it and found out that even to get a new "standard" license (not the RealID type) she still needed to present a birth certificate to prove she's a resident. Didn't know that. She's had a MA license for 54 years but *now* she has to prove she lives here. So, she hunted for her birth certificate from 70 years ago. She couldn't find it. We contacted the city clerk in the town in which she was born and ordered a certified copy. Took forever to get. Meanwhile, she was driving occasionally with an expired license. Finally got the certificate but now the RMV is closed due to the coronavirus. Can't renew on-line because she has to show the birth certificate. Round and round we go. They should be OK with a passport and for some strange reason, a utility bill. Her passport expired a few years ago. It was confusing because initially the MA RMV website listed documents required for the "RealId" type license but not for the renewal of a "standard" license. You can do either. Up until now all you had to do to renew a standard license was to take an eye test and you got a new license. You could also renew on-line if the eye test wasn't required in the renewal schedule. But now they require proof of residency for the standard license as well, including birth certificate. Anyway, she now has everything she needs to get the "RealId" type except the RMV isn't open. A lot of DMVs are saying renewing your passport is easier than getting a "Real ID" DL without one. I got mine back in about 10 days. I am not quite sure why they can't give you the computer based tests online and your eye doctor can give you a note that gets you past the eye test. (very common here in Florida for old folks) At that point, isn't it just the money they want? They could just take a check or credit card for an online renewal. DMV is just a tax scam anyway. Maybe it is time we admitted it. Florida will renew your license by mail 2 or 3 times before you have to show up. You used to get a sticker, now they just send you a copy of your old license with the dates changed. They admit it is just about the money. I got mine at the local DMV with a wait of about an hour. That's why God invented Kindalls. -- Freedom Isn't Free! |
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Adorable Deplorable wrote:
On Tue, 17 Mar 2020 13:27:29 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 17 Mar 2020 12:52:45 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 3/17/2020 12:41 PM, wrote: On Tue, 17 Mar 2020 03:11:59 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 3/16/2020 8:07 PM, Bill wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: My daughter just texted me. Her husband (my son-in-law) is an electrician and has work booked ahead for almost a year. Problem now is he can't pull the necessary permits because most of the town halls and their permit offices are all closing because of this virus thing. I am supposed to,renew,my drivers license this month. I think it will be expired before renewal. Mrs. E"s license expired last month. She went to renew it and found out that even to get a new "standard" license (not the RealID type) she still needed to present a birth certificate to prove she's a resident. Didn't know that. She's had a MA license for 54 years but *now* she has to prove she lives here. So, she hunted for her birth certificate from 70 years ago. She couldn't find it. We contacted the city clerk in the town in which she was born and ordered a certified copy. Took forever to get. Meanwhile, she was driving occasionally with an expired license. Finally got the certificate but now the RMV is closed due to the coronavirus. Can't renew on-line because she has to show the birth certificate. Round and round we go. They should be OK with a passport and for some strange reason, a utility bill. Her passport expired a few years ago. It was confusing because initially the MA RMV website listed documents required for the "RealId" type license but not for the renewal of a "standard" license. You can do either. Up until now all you had to do to renew a standard license was to take an eye test and you got a new license. You could also renew on-line if the eye test wasn't required in the renewal schedule. But now they require proof of residency for the standard license as well, including birth certificate. Anyway, she now has everything she needs to get the "RealId" type except the RMV isn't open. A lot of DMVs are saying renewing your passport is easier than getting a "Real ID" DL without one. I got mine back in about 10 days. I am not quite sure why they can't give you the computer based tests online and your eye doctor can give you a note that gets you past the eye test. (very common here in Florida for old folks) At that point, isn't it just the money they want? They could just take a check or credit card for an online renewal. DMV is just a tax scam anyway. Maybe it is time we admitted it. Florida will renew your license by mail 2 or 3 times before you have to show up. You used to get a sticker, now they just send you a copy of your old license with the dates changed. They admit it is just about the money. I got mine at the local DMV with a wait of about an hour. That's why God invented Kindalls. -- Freedom Isn't Free! Before the virus lockdown, took a couple months with an appointment, and maybe a 7 hour wait. California DMV is famous as an ultimate bureaucracy. Some years ago, they paid $330 million for a new guaranteed computer system to fix up the department. Never worked, and they paid the supplier. |
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On Wed, 18 Mar 2020 03:07:19 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote: Adorable Deplorable wrote: On Tue, 17 Mar 2020 13:27:29 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 17 Mar 2020 12:52:45 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 3/17/2020 12:41 PM, wrote: On Tue, 17 Mar 2020 03:11:59 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 3/16/2020 8:07 PM, Bill wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: My daughter just texted me. Her husband (my son-in-law) is an electrician and has work booked ahead for almost a year. Problem now is he can't pull the necessary permits because most of the town halls and their permit offices are all closing because of this virus thing. I am supposed to,renew,my drivers license this month. I think it will be expired before renewal. Mrs. E"s license expired last month. She went to renew it and found out that even to get a new "standard" license (not the RealID type) she still needed to present a birth certificate to prove she's a resident. Didn't know that. She's had a MA license for 54 years but *now* she has to prove she lives here. So, she hunted for her birth certificate from 70 years ago. She couldn't find it. We contacted the city clerk in the town in which she was born and ordered a certified copy. Took forever to get. Meanwhile, she was driving occasionally with an expired license. Finally got the certificate but now the RMV is closed due to the coronavirus. Can't renew on-line because she has to show the birth certificate. Round and round we go. They should be OK with a passport and for some strange reason, a utility bill. Her passport expired a few years ago. It was confusing because initially the MA RMV website listed documents required for the "RealId" type license but not for the renewal of a "standard" license. You can do either. Up until now all you had to do to renew a standard license was to take an eye test and you got a new license. You could also renew on-line if the eye test wasn't required in the renewal schedule. But now they require proof of residency for the standard license as well, including birth certificate. Anyway, she now has everything she needs to get the "RealId" type except the RMV isn't open. A lot of DMVs are saying renewing your passport is easier than getting a "Real ID" DL without one. I got mine back in about 10 days. I am not quite sure why they can't give you the computer based tests online and your eye doctor can give you a note that gets you past the eye test. (very common here in Florida for old folks) At that point, isn't it just the money they want? They could just take a check or credit card for an online renewal. DMV is just a tax scam anyway. Maybe it is time we admitted it. Florida will renew your license by mail 2 or 3 times before you have to show up. You used to get a sticker, now they just send you a copy of your old license with the dates changed. They admit it is just about the money. I got mine at the local DMV with a wait of about an hour. That's why God invented Kindalls. -- Freedom Isn't Free! Before the virus lockdown, took a couple months with an appointment, and maybe a 7 hour wait. California DMV is famous as an ultimate bureaucracy. Some years ago, they paid $330 million for a new guaranteed computer system to fix up the department. Never worked, and they paid the supplier. The last time I had to go in I was out the door in about 10 minutes but I had just pulled a 150' #4 triplex service lateral (underground) with ground and terminated it in the panel. I was dirty and sweaty, standing in the pristine Naples Fl DMV. They got me in and out before I got a chance to sit down ;-) |
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On Tue, 17 Mar 2020 13:57:13 -0400 (EDT), Justan Ohlphart wrote:
Adorable Deplorable Wrote in message: On Mon, 16 Mar 2020 16:23:50 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:My daughter just texted me. Her husband (my son-in-law) is anelectrician and has work booked ahead for almost a year.Problem now is he can't pull the necessary permits becausemost of the town halls and their permit offices are allclosing because of this virus thing.My neighbor is the event manager at an upscale DC restaurant (The Monocle). TheDC mayor just closed all the restaurants in town. Not good.--Freedom Isn't Free! That's bad news for Fat Harry. He probably eats with the mayor. -- Freedom Isn't Free! |
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On Tuesday, March 17, 2020 at 11:07:23 PM UTC-4, Bill wrote:
Adorable Deplorable wrote: On Tue, 17 Mar 2020 13:27:29 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 17 Mar 2020 12:52:45 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 3/17/2020 12:41 PM, wrote: On Tue, 17 Mar 2020 03:11:59 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 3/16/2020 8:07 PM, Bill wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: My daughter just texted me. Her husband (my son-in-law) is an electrician and has work booked ahead for almost a year. Problem now is he can't pull the necessary permits because most of the town halls and their permit offices are all closing because of this virus thing. I am supposed to,renew,my drivers license this month. I think it will be expired before renewal. Mrs. E"s license expired last month. She went to renew it and found out that even to get a new "standard" license (not the RealID type) she still needed to present a birth certificate to prove she's a resident. Didn't know that. She's had a MA license for 54 years but *now* she has to prove she lives here. So, she hunted for her birth certificate from 70 years ago. She couldn't find it. We contacted the city clerk in the town in which she was born and ordered a certified copy. Took forever to get. Meanwhile, she was driving occasionally with an expired license. Finally got the certificate but now the RMV is closed due to the coronavirus. Can't renew on-line because she has to show the birth certificate. Round and round we go. They should be OK with a passport and for some strange reason, a utility bill. Her passport expired a few years ago. It was confusing because initially the MA RMV website listed documents required for the "RealId" type license but not for the renewal of a "standard" license. You can do either. Up until now all you had to do to renew a standard license was to take an eye test and you got a new license. You could also renew on-line if the eye test wasn't required in the renewal schedule. But now they require proof of residency for the standard license as well, including birth certificate. Anyway, she now has everything she needs to get the "RealId" type except the RMV isn't open. A lot of DMVs are saying renewing your passport is easier than getting a "Real ID" DL without one. I got mine back in about 10 days. I am not quite sure why they can't give you the computer based tests online and your eye doctor can give you a note that gets you past the eye test. (very common here in Florida for old folks) At that point, isn't it just the money they want? They could just take a check or credit card for an online renewal. DMV is just a tax scam anyway. Maybe it is time we admitted it. Florida will renew your license by mail 2 or 3 times before you have to show up. You used to get a sticker, now they just send you a copy of your old license with the dates changed. They admit it is just about the money. I got mine at the local DMV with a wait of about an hour. That's why God invented Kindalls. -- Freedom Isn't Free! Before the virus lockdown, took a couple months with an appointment, and maybe a 7 hour wait. California DMV is famous as an ultimate bureaucracy. Some years ago, they paid $330 million for a new guaranteed computer system to fix up the department. Never worked, and they paid the supplier. Wow, that's crazy. My Real ID here in SC took maybe 15 minutes. I just walked in off the street with my paperwork. The biggest wait was printing and laminating. |
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On Wed, 18 Mar 2020 07:33:59 -0700 (PDT), Its Me
wrote: On Tuesday, March 17, 2020 at 11:07:23 PM UTC-4, Bill wrote: Adorable Deplorable wrote: On Tue, 17 Mar 2020 13:27:29 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 17 Mar 2020 12:52:45 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 3/17/2020 12:41 PM, wrote: On Tue, 17 Mar 2020 03:11:59 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 3/16/2020 8:07 PM, Bill wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: My daughter just texted me. Her husband (my son-in-law) is an electrician and has work booked ahead for almost a year. Problem now is he can't pull the necessary permits because most of the town halls and their permit offices are all closing because of this virus thing. I am supposed to,renew,my drivers license this month. I think it will be expired before renewal. Mrs. E"s license expired last month. She went to renew it and found out that even to get a new "standard" license (not the RealID type) she still needed to present a birth certificate to prove she's a resident. Didn't know that. She's had a MA license for 54 years but *now* she has to prove she lives here. So, she hunted for her birth certificate from 70 years ago. She couldn't find it. We contacted the city clerk in the town in which she was born and ordered a certified copy. Took forever to get. Meanwhile, she was driving occasionally with an expired license. Finally got the certificate but now the RMV is closed due to the coronavirus. Can't renew on-line because she has to show the birth certificate. Round and round we go. They should be OK with a passport and for some strange reason, a utility bill. Her passport expired a few years ago. It was confusing because initially the MA RMV website listed documents required for the "RealId" type license but not for the renewal of a "standard" license. You can do either. Up until now all you had to do to renew a standard license was to take an eye test and you got a new license. You could also renew on-line if the eye test wasn't required in the renewal schedule. But now they require proof of residency for the standard license as well, including birth certificate. Anyway, she now has everything she needs to get the "RealId" type except the RMV isn't open. A lot of DMVs are saying renewing your passport is easier than getting a "Real ID" DL without one. I got mine back in about 10 days. I am not quite sure why they can't give you the computer based tests online and your eye doctor can give you a note that gets you past the eye test. (very common here in Florida for old folks) At that point, isn't it just the money they want? They could just take a check or credit card for an online renewal. DMV is just a tax scam anyway. Maybe it is time we admitted it. Florida will renew your license by mail 2 or 3 times before you have to show up. You used to get a sticker, now they just send you a copy of your old license with the dates changed. They admit it is just about the money. I got mine at the local DMV with a wait of about an hour. That's why God invented Kindalls. -- Freedom Isn't Free! Before the virus lockdown, took a couple months with an appointment, and maybe a 7 hour wait. California DMV is famous as an ultimate bureaucracy. Some years ago, they paid $330 million for a new guaranteed computer system to fix up the department. Never worked, and they paid the supplier. Wow, that's crazy. My Real ID here in SC took maybe 15 minutes. I just walked in off the street with my paperwork. The biggest wait was printing and laminating. It is funny that the more backward and unsophisticated a state is the faster the bureaucracy works. |
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On Wednesday, March 18, 2020 at 4:49:54 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Wed, 18 Mar 2020 07:33:59 -0700 (PDT), Its Me wrote: On Tuesday, March 17, 2020 at 11:07:23 PM UTC-4, Bill wrote: Adorable Deplorable wrote: On Tue, 17 Mar 2020 13:27:29 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 17 Mar 2020 12:52:45 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 3/17/2020 12:41 PM, wrote: On Tue, 17 Mar 2020 03:11:59 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 3/16/2020 8:07 PM, Bill wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: My daughter just texted me. Her husband (my son-in-law) is an electrician and has work booked ahead for almost a year. Problem now is he can't pull the necessary permits because most of the town halls and their permit offices are all closing because of this virus thing. I am supposed to,renew,my drivers license this month. I think it will be expired before renewal. Mrs. E"s license expired last month. She went to renew it and found out that even to get a new "standard" license (not the RealID type) she still needed to present a birth certificate to prove she's a resident. Didn't know that. She's had a MA license for 54 years but *now* she has to prove she lives here. So, she hunted for her birth certificate from 70 years ago. She couldn't find it. We contacted the city clerk in the town in which she was born and ordered a certified copy. Took forever to get. Meanwhile, she was driving occasionally with an expired license. Finally got the certificate but now the RMV is closed due to the coronavirus. Can't renew on-line because she has to show the birth certificate. Round and round we go. They should be OK with a passport and for some strange reason, a utility bill. Her passport expired a few years ago. It was confusing because initially the MA RMV website listed documents required for the "RealId" type license but not for the renewal of a "standard" license. You can do either. Up until now all you had to do to renew a standard license was to take an eye test and you got a new license. You could also renew on-line if the eye test wasn't required in the renewal schedule. But now they require proof of residency for the standard license as well, including birth certificate. Anyway, she now has everything she needs to get the "RealId" type except the RMV isn't open. A lot of DMVs are saying renewing your passport is easier than getting a "Real ID" DL without one. I got mine back in about 10 days. I am not quite sure why they can't give you the computer based tests online and your eye doctor can give you a note that gets you past the eye test. (very common here in Florida for old folks) At that point, isn't it just the money they want? They could just take a check or credit card for an online renewal. DMV is just a tax scam anyway. Maybe it is time we admitted it. Florida will renew your license by mail 2 or 3 times before you have to show up. You used to get a sticker, now they just send you a copy of your old license with the dates changed. They admit it is just about the money. I got mine at the local DMV with a wait of about an hour. That's why God invented Kindalls. -- Freedom Isn't Free! Before the virus lockdown, took a couple months with an appointment, and maybe a 7 hour wait. California DMV is famous as an ultimate bureaucracy. Some years ago, they paid $330 million for a new guaranteed computer system to fix up the department. Never worked, and they paid the supplier. Wow, that's crazy. My Real ID here in SC took maybe 15 minutes. I just walked in off the street with my paperwork. The biggest wait was printing and laminating. It is funny that the more backward and unsophisticated a state is the faster the bureaucracy works. No, No. I said South Carolina. :) |
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On Wed, 18 Mar 2020 14:18:52 -0700 (PDT), Its Me
wrote: On Wednesday, March 18, 2020 at 4:49:54 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Wed, 18 Mar 2020 07:33:59 -0700 (PDT), Its Me wrote: On Tuesday, March 17, 2020 at 11:07:23 PM UTC-4, Bill wrote: Adorable Deplorable wrote: On Tue, 17 Mar 2020 13:27:29 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 17 Mar 2020 12:52:45 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 3/17/2020 12:41 PM, wrote: On Tue, 17 Mar 2020 03:11:59 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 3/16/2020 8:07 PM, Bill wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: My daughter just texted me. Her husband (my son-in-law) is an electrician and has work booked ahead for almost a year. Problem now is he can't pull the necessary permits because most of the town halls and their permit offices are all closing because of this virus thing. I am supposed to,renew,my drivers license this month. I think it will be expired before renewal. Mrs. E"s license expired last month. She went to renew it and found out that even to get a new "standard" license (not the RealID type) she still needed to present a birth certificate to prove she's a resident. Didn't know that. She's had a MA license for 54 years but *now* she has to prove she lives here. So, she hunted for her birth certificate from 70 years ago. She couldn't find it. We contacted the city clerk in the town in which she was born and ordered a certified copy. Took forever to get. Meanwhile, she was driving occasionally with an expired license. Finally got the certificate but now the RMV is closed due to the coronavirus. Can't renew on-line because she has to show the birth certificate. Round and round we go. They should be OK with a passport and for some strange reason, a utility bill. Her passport expired a few years ago. It was confusing because initially the MA RMV website listed documents required for the "RealId" type license but not for the renewal of a "standard" license. You can do either. Up until now all you had to do to renew a standard license was to take an eye test and you got a new license. You could also renew on-line if the eye test wasn't required in the renewal schedule. But now they require proof of residency for the standard license as well, including birth certificate. Anyway, she now has everything she needs to get the "RealId" type except the RMV isn't open. A lot of DMVs are saying renewing your passport is easier than getting a "Real ID" DL without one. I got mine back in about 10 days. I am not quite sure why they can't give you the computer based tests online and your eye doctor can give you a note that gets you past the eye test. (very common here in Florida for old folks) At that point, isn't it just the money they want? They could just take a check or credit card for an online renewal. DMV is just a tax scam anyway. Maybe it is time we admitted it. Florida will renew your license by mail 2 or 3 times before you have to show up. You used to get a sticker, now they just send you a copy of your old license with the dates changed. They admit it is just about the money. I got mine at the local DMV with a wait of about an hour. That's why God invented Kindalls. -- Freedom Isn't Free! Before the virus lockdown, took a couple months with an appointment, and maybe a 7 hour wait. California DMV is famous as an ultimate bureaucracy. Some years ago, they paid $330 million for a new guaranteed computer system to fix up the department. Never worked, and they paid the supplier. Wow, that's crazy. My Real ID here in SC took maybe 15 minutes. I just walked in off the street with my paperwork. The biggest wait was printing and laminating. It is funny that the more backward and unsophisticated a state is the faster the bureaucracy works. No, No. I said South Carolina. :) Until Harry gets there you won't have any culture at all. He will show you all about shoes and indoor plumbing, all sorts of wonderful things ;-) |
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