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Mr. Luddite[_4_] March 16th 20 01:04 AM

Some good news for a change
 
On 3/15/2020 8:57 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/15/2020 8:17 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 15 Mar 2020 14:43:59 -0400, Adorable Deplorable
wrote:

On Sun, 15 Mar 2020 14:16:30 -0400,
wrote:

On Sun, 15 Mar 2020 08:59:01 -0400, Adorable Deplorable
wrote:

On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 20:44:28 -0400,
wrote:

On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 18:24:02 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 3/14/2020 4:59 PM,
wrote:


On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 14:10:24 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

Â*Â* I'm
not. I'm just pointing out that the sharks will be making big
money off
this virus.

Congress just piled up $8.5 billion in the street. Don't you think
they intended for someone to come get it? If we were still
waiting for
the government, we wouldn't have any kits.



And Congress (and Trump) are about to make up to another $50 billion
available.

Tests for corinavirus will be free.

Meanwhile, over in South Korea where they've been testing away,
something like 91 percent of the tests have been negative.

Sounds like a huge waste of money unless the test also looks for C-19
antibodies, indicating you have licked it and you are no longer a
problem.

I like Luddite's idea:

Feel like ****, test is negative, go to bed for two weeks.

Feel like ****, test is positive, go to bed for two weeks.

I suppose a test in the early stages would help folks decide to go
home for two
weeks even if they didn't feel bad. But from what I've heard, folks
without
symtoms should not be clogging up the lines.

The only value the test would have for me is to see if it is still
safe to go to my FIL's house but I wouldn't want to give him any kind
of crud, C-19, the flu or just a nasty cold. I am really not sure what
he would do if I got sick tho. I bet it is just a matter of time
before Meals on Wheels shuts down and he is really not supposed to be
driving himself.

If you can't drive, you can't drive. But, if you're able to drive and
positive,
I'd mask up and take him the food. Just don't kiss him and make sure
your hands
are clean!


I am sure that is what I would do, if I had to just leave it in the
driveway.



A lady on one of the other newsgroups had an interesting idea. How do
UV sanitizers work on viruses and is there an easy way to make one?
Maybe Richard has some experience with heavy duty UV light sources and
the appropriate enclosure.



One of the houses we had in Florida had large UV lamps in the air
handler for the AC system.Â* They were on the main intake before the air
went through the filter and evaporator coil.

They were advertised as being efficient for killing bacteria but I am
not sure about viruses.


BTW ... I don't think the UV lamps in the AC system kills all bacteria
in the passing air at once. It depends on the fan running for a while
and the air being recirculated through the system many times.

I remember there was a warning label on the outside of the intake
grate that said not to stare into the plenum at the lamps.

We don't have the humidity that Florida has up here and a system
like this isn't needed. But in Florida they are somewhat common.






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Mr. Luddite[_4_] March 16th 20 01:08 AM

Some good news for a change
 
On 3/15/2020 9:04 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/15/2020 8:57 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/15/2020 8:17 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 15 Mar 2020 14:43:59 -0400, Adorable Deplorable
wrote:

On Sun, 15 Mar 2020 14:16:30 -0400,
wrote:

On Sun, 15 Mar 2020 08:59:01 -0400, Adorable Deplorable
wrote:

On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 20:44:28 -0400,
wrote:

On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 18:24:02 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 3/14/2020 4:59 PM,
wrote:


On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 14:10:24 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

Â*Â* I'm
not. I'm just pointing out that the sharks will be making big
money off
this virus.

Congress just piled up $8.5 billion in the street. Don't you think
they intended for someone to come get it? If we were still
waiting for
the government, we wouldn't have any kits.



And Congress (and Trump) are about to make up to another $50
billion
available.

Tests for corinavirus will be free.

Meanwhile, over in South Korea where they've been testing away,
something like 91 percent of the tests have been negative.

Sounds like a huge waste of money unless the test also looks for
C-19
antibodies, indicating you have licked it and you are no longer a
problem.

I like Luddite's idea:

Feel like ****, test is negative, go to bed for two weeks.

Feel like ****, test is positive, go to bed for two weeks.

I suppose a test in the early stages would help folks decide to go
home for two
weeks even if they didn't feel bad. But from what I've heard,
folks without
symtoms should not be clogging up the lines.

The only value the test would have for me is to see if it is still
safe to go to my FIL's house but I wouldn't want to give him any kind
of crud, C-19, the flu or just a nasty cold. I am really not sure what
he would do if I got sick tho. I bet it is just a matter of time
before Meals on Wheels shuts down and he is really not supposed to be
driving himself.

If you can't drive, you can't drive. But, if you're able to drive
and positive,
I'd mask up and take him the food. Just don't kiss him and make sure
your hands
are clean!

I am sure that is what I would do, if I had to just leave it in the
driveway.



A lady on one of the other newsgroups had an interesting idea. How do
UV sanitizers work on viruses and is there an easy way to make one?
Maybe Richard has some experience with heavy duty UV light sources and
the appropriate enclosure.



One of the houses we had in Florida had large UV lamps in the air
handler for the AC system.Â* They were on the main intake before the
air went through the filter and evaporator coil.

They were advertised as being efficient for killing bacteria but I am
not sure about viruses.


BTW ... I don't think the UV lamps in the AC system kills all bacteria
in the passing air at once.Â* It depends on the fan running for a while
and the air being recirculated through the system many times.

I remember there was a warning label on the outside of the intake
grate that said not to stare into the plenum at the lamps.

We don't have the humidity that Florida has up here and a system
like this isn't needed.Â* But in Florida they are somewhat common.



Info he

https://housesogreen.com/2014/07/hvac-uv-lights-for-ac-systems-do-they-work/


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Bill[_12_] March 16th 20 01:09 AM

Some good news for a change
 
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/15/2020 8:57 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/15/2020 8:17 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 15 Mar 2020 14:43:59 -0400, Adorable Deplorable
wrote:

On Sun, 15 Mar 2020 14:16:30 -0400,
wrote:

On Sun, 15 Mar 2020 08:59:01 -0400, Adorable Deplorable
wrote:

On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 20:44:28 -0400,
wrote:

On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 18:24:02 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 3/14/2020 4:59 PM,
wrote:


On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 14:10:24 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

Â*Â* I'm
not. I'm just pointing out that the sharks will be making big
money off
this virus.

Congress just piled up $8.5 billion in the street. Don't you think
they intended for someone to come get it? If we were still
waiting for
the government, we wouldn't have any kits.



And Congress (and Trump) are about to make up to another $50 billion
available.

Tests for corinavirus will be free.

Meanwhile, over in South Korea where they've been testing away,
something like 91 percent of the tests have been negative.

Sounds like a huge waste of money unless the test also looks for C-19
antibodies, indicating you have licked it and you are no longer a
problem.

I like Luddite's idea:

Feel like ****, test is negative, go to bed for two weeks.

Feel like ****, test is positive, go to bed for two weeks.

I suppose a test in the early stages would help folks decide to go
home for two
weeks even if they didn't feel bad. But from what I've heard, folks
without
symtoms should not be clogging up the lines.

The only value the test would have for me is to see if it is still
safe to go to my FIL's house but I wouldn't want to give him any kind
of crud, C-19, the flu or just a nasty cold. I am really not sure what
he would do if I got sick tho. I bet it is just a matter of time
before Meals on Wheels shuts down and he is really not supposed to be
driving himself.

If you can't drive, you can't drive. But, if you're able to drive and
positive,
I'd mask up and take him the food. Just don't kiss him and make sure
your hands
are clean!

I am sure that is what I would do, if I had to just leave it in the
driveway.



A lady on one of the other newsgroups had an interesting idea. How do
UV sanitizers work on viruses and is there an easy way to make one?
Maybe Richard has some experience with heavy duty UV light sources and
the appropriate enclosure.



One of the houses we had in Florida had large UV lamps in the air
handler for the AC system.Â* They were on the main intake before the air
went through the filter and evaporator coil.

They were advertised as being efficient for killing bacteria but I am
not sure about viruses.


BTW ... I don't think the UV lamps in the AC system kills all bacteria
in the passing air at once. It depends on the fan running for a while
and the air being recirculated through the system many times.

I remember there was a warning label on the outside of the intake
grate that said not to stare into the plenum at the lamps.

We don't have the humidity that Florida has up here and a system
like this isn't needed. But in Florida they are somewhat common.







They do use UV to sanitize medical equipment, but is certain wave lengths.
I think really bad for humans. Maybe put it inside an air handler duct,
out if human space. I know some wavelengths are OK as they are used in
some hand driers and they used to use a UV light to sanitize bowling shoes
when I was a kid. I


Mr. Luddite[_4_] March 16th 20 01:14 AM

Some good news for a change
 
On 3/15/2020 9:09 PM, Bill wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/15/2020 8:57 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/15/2020 8:17 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 15 Mar 2020 14:43:59 -0400, Adorable Deplorable
wrote:

On Sun, 15 Mar 2020 14:16:30 -0400,
wrote:

On Sun, 15 Mar 2020 08:59:01 -0400, Adorable Deplorable
wrote:

On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 20:44:28 -0400,
wrote:

On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 18:24:02 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 3/14/2020 4:59 PM,
wrote:


On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 14:10:24 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

Â*Â* I'm
not. I'm just pointing out that the sharks will be making big
money off
this virus.

Congress just piled up $8.5 billion in the street. Don't you think
they intended for someone to come get it? If we were still
waiting for
the government, we wouldn't have any kits.



And Congress (and Trump) are about to make up to another $50 billion
available.

Tests for corinavirus will be free.

Meanwhile, over in South Korea where they've been testing away,
something like 91 percent of the tests have been negative.

Sounds like a huge waste of money unless the test also looks for C-19
antibodies, indicating you have licked it and you are no longer a
problem.

I like Luddite's idea:

Feel like ****, test is negative, go to bed for two weeks.

Feel like ****, test is positive, go to bed for two weeks.

I suppose a test in the early stages would help folks decide to go
home for two
weeks even if they didn't feel bad. But from what I've heard, folks
without
symtoms should not be clogging up the lines.

The only value the test would have for me is to see if it is still
safe to go to my FIL's house but I wouldn't want to give him any kind
of crud, C-19, the flu or just a nasty cold. I am really not sure what
he would do if I got sick tho. I bet it is just a matter of time
before Meals on Wheels shuts down and he is really not supposed to be
driving himself.

If you can't drive, you can't drive. But, if you're able to drive and
positive,
I'd mask up and take him the food. Just don't kiss him and make sure
your hands
are clean!

I am sure that is what I would do, if I had to just leave it in the
driveway.



A lady on one of the other newsgroups had an interesting idea. How do
UV sanitizers work on viruses and is there an easy way to make one?
Maybe Richard has some experience with heavy duty UV light sources and
the appropriate enclosure.



One of the houses we had in Florida had large UV lamps in the air
handler for the AC system.Â* They were on the main intake before the air
went through the filter and evaporator coil.

They were advertised as being efficient for killing bacteria but I am
not sure about viruses.


BTW ... I don't think the UV lamps in the AC system kills all bacteria
in the passing air at once. It depends on the fan running for a while
and the air being recirculated through the system many times.

I remember there was a warning label on the outside of the intake
grate that said not to stare into the plenum at the lamps.

We don't have the humidity that Florida has up here and a system
like this isn't needed. But in Florida they are somewhat common.







They do use UV to sanitize medical equipment, but is certain wave lengths.
I think really bad for humans. Maybe put it inside an air handler duct,
out if human space. I know some wavelengths are OK as they are used in
some hand driers and they used to use a UV light to sanitize bowling shoes
when I was a kid. I



The ones we had in the AC system were located near the evaporator coil
(cold coil) and were out of sight unless you stared up into the
plenum.

This house had two AC systems ... one for the ground floor and one
for the second floor. I know the ground floor system had the
UV lamps but I don't remember if the second floor system did.

I know that occasionally the second floor system's evaporator coil
would ice over if the humidity was very high for several days.
Had to shut it off once in a while and just let the fan run to
de-ice it.



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[email protected] March 16th 20 01:14 AM

Some good news for a change
 
On Mon, 16 Mar 2020 01:09:18 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/15/2020 8:57 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/15/2020 8:17 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 15 Mar 2020 14:43:59 -0400, Adorable Deplorable
wrote:

On Sun, 15 Mar 2020 14:16:30 -0400,
wrote:

On Sun, 15 Mar 2020 08:59:01 -0400, Adorable Deplorable
wrote:

On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 20:44:28 -0400,
wrote:

On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 18:24:02 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 3/14/2020 4:59 PM,
wrote:


On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 14:10:24 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

Â*Â* I'm
not. I'm just pointing out that the sharks will be making big
money off
this virus.

Congress just piled up $8.5 billion in the street. Don't you think
they intended for someone to come get it? If we were still
waiting for
the government, we wouldn't have any kits.



And Congress (and Trump) are about to make up to another $50 billion
available.

Tests for corinavirus will be free.

Meanwhile, over in South Korea where they've been testing away,
something like 91 percent of the tests have been negative.

Sounds like a huge waste of money unless the test also looks for C-19
antibodies, indicating you have licked it and you are no longer a
problem.

I like Luddite's idea:

Feel like ****, test is negative, go to bed for two weeks.

Feel like ****, test is positive, go to bed for two weeks.

I suppose a test in the early stages would help folks decide to go
home for two
weeks even if they didn't feel bad. But from what I've heard, folks
without
symtoms should not be clogging up the lines.

The only value the test would have for me is to see if it is still
safe to go to my FIL's house but I wouldn't want to give him any kind
of crud, C-19, the flu or just a nasty cold. I am really not sure what
he would do if I got sick tho. I bet it is just a matter of time
before Meals on Wheels shuts down and he is really not supposed to be
driving himself.

If you can't drive, you can't drive. But, if you're able to drive and
positive,
I'd mask up and take him the food. Just don't kiss him and make sure
your hands
are clean!

I am sure that is what I would do, if I had to just leave it in the
driveway.



A lady on one of the other newsgroups had an interesting idea. How do
UV sanitizers work on viruses and is there an easy way to make one?
Maybe Richard has some experience with heavy duty UV light sources and
the appropriate enclosure.



One of the houses we had in Florida had large UV lamps in the air
handler for the AC system.Â* They were on the main intake before the air
went through the filter and evaporator coil.

They were advertised as being efficient for killing bacteria but I am
not sure about viruses.


BTW ... I don't think the UV lamps in the AC system kills all bacteria
in the passing air at once. It depends on the fan running for a while
and the air being recirculated through the system many times.

I remember there was a warning label on the outside of the intake
grate that said not to stare into the plenum at the lamps.

We don't have the humidity that Florida has up here and a system
like this isn't needed. But in Florida they are somewhat common.







They do use UV to sanitize medical equipment, but is certain wave lengths.
I think really bad for humans. Maybe put it inside an air handler duct,
out if human space. I know some wavelengths are OK as they are used in
some hand driers and they used to use a UV light to sanitize bowling shoes
when I was a kid. I


I was really thinking of the things you bring into the house.

Bill[_12_] March 16th 20 01:36 AM

Some good news for a change
 
wrote:
On Mon, 16 Mar 2020 01:09:18 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/15/2020 8:57 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/15/2020 8:17 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 15 Mar 2020 14:43:59 -0400, Adorable Deplorable
wrote:

On Sun, 15 Mar 2020 14:16:30 -0400,
wrote:

On Sun, 15 Mar 2020 08:59:01 -0400, Adorable Deplorable
wrote:

On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 20:44:28 -0400,
wrote:

On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 18:24:02 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 3/14/2020 4:59 PM,
wrote:


On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 14:10:24 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

Â*Â* I'm
not. I'm just pointing out that the sharks will be making big
money off
this virus.

Congress just piled up $8.5 billion in the street. Don't you think
they intended for someone to come get it? If we were still
waiting for
the government, we wouldn't have any kits.



And Congress (and Trump) are about to make up to another $50 billion
available.

Tests for corinavirus will be free.

Meanwhile, over in South Korea where they've been testing away,
something like 91 percent of the tests have been negative.

Sounds like a huge waste of money unless the test also looks for C-19
antibodies, indicating you have licked it and you are no longer a
problem.

I like Luddite's idea:

Feel like ****, test is negative, go to bed for two weeks.

Feel like ****, test is positive, go to bed for two weeks.

I suppose a test in the early stages would help folks decide to go
home for two
weeks even if they didn't feel bad. But from what I've heard, folks
without
symtoms should not be clogging up the lines.

The only value the test would have for me is to see if it is still
safe to go to my FIL's house but I wouldn't want to give him any kind
of crud, C-19, the flu or just a nasty cold. I am really not sure what
he would do if I got sick tho. I bet it is just a matter of time
before Meals on Wheels shuts down and he is really not supposed to be
driving himself.

If you can't drive, you can't drive. But, if you're able to drive and
positive,
I'd mask up and take him the food. Just don't kiss him and make sure
your hands
are clean!

I am sure that is what I would do, if I had to just leave it in the
driveway.



A lady on one of the other newsgroups had an interesting idea. How do
UV sanitizers work on viruses and is there an easy way to make one?
Maybe Richard has some experience with heavy duty UV light sources and
the appropriate enclosure.



One of the houses we had in Florida had large UV lamps in the air
handler for the AC system.Â* They were on the main intake before the air
went through the filter and evaporator coil.

They were advertised as being efficient for killing bacteria but I am
not sure about viruses.


BTW ... I don't think the UV lamps in the AC system kills all bacteria
in the passing air at once. It depends on the fan running for a while
and the air being recirculated through the system many times.

I remember there was a warning label on the outside of the intake
grate that said not to stare into the plenum at the lamps.

We don't have the humidity that Florida has up here and a system
like this isn't needed. But in Florida they are somewhat common.







They do use UV to sanitize medical equipment, but is certain wave lengths.
I think really bad for humans. Maybe put it inside an air handler duct,
out if human space. I know some wavelengths are OK as they are used in
some hand driers and they used to use a UV light to sanitize bowling shoes
when I was a kid. I


I was really thinking of the things you bring into the house.


Run them through a UV box. But how you turn the item to make sure it is
fully covered? Must be a way as. They would have to rotate medical
supplies to fully sanitize. Unlike an autoclave, which is non
directional.


[email protected] March 16th 20 03:17 AM

Some good news for a change
 
On Sun, 15 Mar 2020 20:17:02 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 15 Mar 2020 14:43:59 -0400, Adorable Deplorable
wrote:

On Sun, 15 Mar 2020 14:16:30 -0400,
wrote:

On Sun, 15 Mar 2020 08:59:01 -0400, Adorable Deplorable
wrote:

On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 20:44:28 -0400,
wrote:

On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 18:24:02 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 3/14/2020 4:59 PM,
wrote:


On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 14:10:24 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

I'm
not. I'm just pointing out that the sharks will be making big money off
this virus.

Congress just piled up $8.5 billion in the street. Don't you think
they intended for someone to come get it? If we were still waiting for
the government, we wouldn't have any kits.



And Congress (and Trump) are about to make up to another $50 billion
available.

Tests for corinavirus will be free.

Meanwhile, over in South Korea where they've been testing away,
something like 91 percent of the tests have been negative.

Sounds like a huge waste of money unless the test also looks for C-19
antibodies, indicating you have licked it and you are no longer a
problem.

I like Luddite's idea:

Feel like ****, test is negative, go to bed for two weeks.

Feel like ****, test is positive, go to bed for two weeks.

I suppose a test in the early stages would help folks decide to go home for two
weeks even if they didn't feel bad. But from what I've heard, folks without
symtoms should not be clogging up the lines.

The only value the test would have for me is to see if it is still
safe to go to my FIL's house but I wouldn't want to give him any kind
of crud, C-19, the flu or just a nasty cold. I am really not sure what
he would do if I got sick tho. I bet it is just a matter of time
before Meals on Wheels shuts down and he is really not supposed to be
driving himself.


If you can't drive, you can't drive. But, if you're able to drive and positive,
I'd mask up and take him the food. Just don't kiss him and make sure your hands
are clean!


I am sure that is what I would do, if I had to just leave it in the
driveway.

A lady on one of the other newsgroups had an interesting idea. How do
UV sanitizers work on viruses and is there an easy way to make one?
Maybe Richard has some experience with heavy duty UV light sources and
the appropriate enclosure.


===

They sell UV systems for water purification that are supposed to kill
everything. I've thought of getting one for the boat. UV light is
dangerous of course. It can cause skin cancer and also damage the
eyes.

https://www.google.com/search?q=uv+water+purifier&oq=uv+water

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[email protected] March 16th 20 04:24 AM

Some good news for a change
 
On Sun, 15 Mar 2020 21:14:46 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 3/15/2020 9:09 PM, Bill wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/15/2020 8:57 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/15/2020 8:17 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 15 Mar 2020 14:43:59 -0400, Adorable Deplorable
wrote:

On Sun, 15 Mar 2020 14:16:30 -0400,
wrote:

On Sun, 15 Mar 2020 08:59:01 -0400, Adorable Deplorable
wrote:

On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 20:44:28 -0400,
wrote:

On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 18:24:02 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 3/14/2020 4:59 PM,
wrote:


On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 14:10:24 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

Â*Â* I'm
not. I'm just pointing out that the sharks will be making big
money off
this virus.

Congress just piled up $8.5 billion in the street. Don't you think
they intended for someone to come get it? If we were still
waiting for
the government, we wouldn't have any kits.



And Congress (and Trump) are about to make up to another $50 billion
available.

Tests for corinavirus will be free.

Meanwhile, over in South Korea where they've been testing away,
something like 91 percent of the tests have been negative.

Sounds like a huge waste of money unless the test also looks for C-19
antibodies, indicating you have licked it and you are no longer a
problem.

I like Luddite's idea:

Feel like ****, test is negative, go to bed for two weeks.

Feel like ****, test is positive, go to bed for two weeks.

I suppose a test in the early stages would help folks decide to go
home for two
weeks even if they didn't feel bad. But from what I've heard, folks
without
symtoms should not be clogging up the lines.

The only value the test would have for me is to see if it is still
safe to go to my FIL's house but I wouldn't want to give him any kind
of crud, C-19, the flu or just a nasty cold. I am really not sure what
he would do if I got sick tho. I bet it is just a matter of time
before Meals on Wheels shuts down and he is really not supposed to be
driving himself.

If you can't drive, you can't drive. But, if you're able to drive and
positive,
I'd mask up and take him the food. Just don't kiss him and make sure
your hands
are clean!

I am sure that is what I would do, if I had to just leave it in the
driveway.



A lady on one of the other newsgroups had an interesting idea. How do
UV sanitizers work on viruses and is there an easy way to make one?
Maybe Richard has some experience with heavy duty UV light sources and
the appropriate enclosure.



One of the houses we had in Florida had large UV lamps in the air
handler for the AC system.Â* They were on the main intake before the air
went through the filter and evaporator coil.

They were advertised as being efficient for killing bacteria but I am
not sure about viruses.


BTW ... I don't think the UV lamps in the AC system kills all bacteria
in the passing air at once. It depends on the fan running for a while
and the air being recirculated through the system many times.

I remember there was a warning label on the outside of the intake
grate that said not to stare into the plenum at the lamps.

We don't have the humidity that Florida has up here and a system
like this isn't needed. But in Florida they are somewhat common.







They do use UV to sanitize medical equipment, but is certain wave lengths.
I think really bad for humans. Maybe put it inside an air handler duct,
out if human space. I know some wavelengths are OK as they are used in
some hand driers and they used to use a UV light to sanitize bowling shoes
when I was a kid. I



The ones we had in the AC system were located near the evaporator coil
(cold coil) and were out of sight unless you stared up into the
plenum.

This house had two AC systems ... one for the ground floor and one
for the second floor. I know the ground floor system had the
UV lamps but I don't remember if the second floor system did.

I know that occasionally the second floor system's evaporator coil
would ice over if the humidity was very high for several days.
Had to shut it off once in a while and just let the fan run to
de-ice it.


That sounds more like it needed a shot of gas or your fan speed was
too low.

[email protected] March 16th 20 04:33 AM

Some good news for a change
 
On Mon, 16 Mar 2020 01:36:52 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

wrote:
On Mon, 16 Mar 2020 01:09:18 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/15/2020 8:57 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/15/2020 8:17 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 15 Mar 2020 14:43:59 -0400, Adorable Deplorable
wrote:

On Sun, 15 Mar 2020 14:16:30 -0400,
wrote:

On Sun, 15 Mar 2020 08:59:01 -0400, Adorable Deplorable
wrote:

On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 20:44:28 -0400,
wrote:

On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 18:24:02 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 3/14/2020 4:59 PM,
wrote:


On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 14:10:24 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

Â*Â* I'm
not. I'm just pointing out that the sharks will be making big
money off
this virus.

Congress just piled up $8.5 billion in the street. Don't you think
they intended for someone to come get it? If we were still
waiting for
the government, we wouldn't have any kits.



And Congress (and Trump) are about to make up to another $50 billion
available.

Tests for corinavirus will be free.

Meanwhile, over in South Korea where they've been testing away,
something like 91 percent of the tests have been negative.

Sounds like a huge waste of money unless the test also looks for C-19
antibodies, indicating you have licked it and you are no longer a
problem.

I like Luddite's idea:

Feel like ****, test is negative, go to bed for two weeks.

Feel like ****, test is positive, go to bed for two weeks.

I suppose a test in the early stages would help folks decide to go
home for two
weeks even if they didn't feel bad. But from what I've heard, folks
without
symtoms should not be clogging up the lines.

The only value the test would have for me is to see if it is still
safe to go to my FIL's house but I wouldn't want to give him any kind
of crud, C-19, the flu or just a nasty cold. I am really not sure what
he would do if I got sick tho. I bet it is just a matter of time
before Meals on Wheels shuts down and he is really not supposed to be
driving himself.

If you can't drive, you can't drive. But, if you're able to drive and
positive,
I'd mask up and take him the food. Just don't kiss him and make sure
your hands
are clean!

I am sure that is what I would do, if I had to just leave it in the
driveway.



A lady on one of the other newsgroups had an interesting idea. How do
UV sanitizers work on viruses and is there an easy way to make one?
Maybe Richard has some experience with heavy duty UV light sources and
the appropriate enclosure.



One of the houses we had in Florida had large UV lamps in the air
handler for the AC system.Â* They were on the main intake before the air
went through the filter and evaporator coil.

They were advertised as being efficient for killing bacteria but I am
not sure about viruses.


BTW ... I don't think the UV lamps in the AC system kills all bacteria
in the passing air at once. It depends on the fan running for a while
and the air being recirculated through the system many times.

I remember there was a warning label on the outside of the intake
grate that said not to stare into the plenum at the lamps.

We don't have the humidity that Florida has up here and a system
like this isn't needed. But in Florida they are somewhat common.







They do use UV to sanitize medical equipment, but is certain wave lengths.
I think really bad for humans. Maybe put it inside an air handler duct,
out if human space. I know some wavelengths are OK as they are used in
some hand driers and they used to use a UV light to sanitize bowling shoes
when I was a kid. I


I was really thinking of the things you bring into the house.


Run them through a UV box. But how you turn the item to make sure it is
fully covered? Must be a way as. They would have to rotate medical
supplies to fully sanitize. Unlike an autoclave, which is non
directional.


I am thinking if the enclosure was very reflective and you had a glass
shelf in there it would do a pretty good job. I am really thinking
about my FIL's Meals on Wheels food. Some of it comes in a sealed TV
dinner sort of thing but who knows how many people handled it between
the time it was sealed and you got it. They also deliver things like
short date packaged treats and (maybe day old) bread from Publix. That
stuff may have been out on display in the store for a while. I think
there might be some value in zapping the packages.
If something happens to me, that will be his only food.
In fact my wife would be in trouble too. She doesn't drive either.

[email protected] March 16th 20 04:34 AM

Some good news for a change
 
On Sun, 15 Mar 2020 23:17:37 -0400,
wrote:

On Sun, 15 Mar 2020 20:17:02 -0400,
wrote:

On Sun, 15 Mar 2020 14:43:59 -0400, Adorable Deplorable
wrote:

On Sun, 15 Mar 2020 14:16:30 -0400,
wrote:

On Sun, 15 Mar 2020 08:59:01 -0400, Adorable Deplorable
wrote:

On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 20:44:28 -0400,
wrote:

On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 18:24:02 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 3/14/2020 4:59 PM,
wrote:


On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 14:10:24 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

I'm
not. I'm just pointing out that the sharks will be making big money off
this virus.

Congress just piled up $8.5 billion in the street. Don't you think
they intended for someone to come get it? If we were still waiting for
the government, we wouldn't have any kits.



And Congress (and Trump) are about to make up to another $50 billion
available.

Tests for corinavirus will be free.

Meanwhile, over in South Korea where they've been testing away,
something like 91 percent of the tests have been negative.

Sounds like a huge waste of money unless the test also looks for C-19
antibodies, indicating you have licked it and you are no longer a
problem.

I like Luddite's idea:

Feel like ****, test is negative, go to bed for two weeks.

Feel like ****, test is positive, go to bed for two weeks.

I suppose a test in the early stages would help folks decide to go home for two
weeks even if they didn't feel bad. But from what I've heard, folks without
symtoms should not be clogging up the lines.

The only value the test would have for me is to see if it is still
safe to go to my FIL's house but I wouldn't want to give him any kind
of crud, C-19, the flu or just a nasty cold. I am really not sure what
he would do if I got sick tho. I bet it is just a matter of time
before Meals on Wheels shuts down and he is really not supposed to be
driving himself.

If you can't drive, you can't drive. But, if you're able to drive and positive,
I'd mask up and take him the food. Just don't kiss him and make sure your hands
are clean!


I am sure that is what I would do, if I had to just leave it in the
driveway.

A lady on one of the other newsgroups had an interesting idea. How do
UV sanitizers work on viruses and is there an easy way to make one?
Maybe Richard has some experience with heavy duty UV light sources and
the appropriate enclosure.


===

They sell UV systems for water purification that are supposed to kill
everything. I've thought of getting one for the boat. UV light is
dangerous of course. It can cause skin cancer and also damage the
eyes.

https://www.google.com/search?q=uv+water+purifier&oq=uv+water


I have one for the spa I never hooked up. It boils Ozone tho.


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