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Alex[_22_] November 10th 19 01:47 AM

boating this weekend
 
wrote:
On Sat, 09 Nov 2019 10:18:44 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Fri, 8 Nov 2019 20:28:13 -0500, Alex wrote:

wrote:
On Thu, 7 Nov 2019 19:25:16 -0500, Alex wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Wed, 6 Nov 2019 16:00:26 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Tue, 5 Nov 2019 19:08:32 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Fri, 1 Nov 2019 17:54:09 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

Heading off to Half Moon Bay for the recreational crab opener in a short
time. Big party as well as able to start fishing for Dungeness crab at
midnight tonight. Some go out and drop pots then. I wait till morning.
Probably a 3 hour pot soak will fill the 10 crab per person limit.
Hope you had good luck!

Bad luck. Came home with donated crabs. We have had a problem the last
few years with pot poachers. Dropped 4 pots came back in a couple hours to
no pots. About a $500 loss. They may show up as the poachers will take
the crabs and then the pots get dropped a ways distant.
I suppose you need to carry a shotgun and anchor over the crab pots any more.

They have put new rules in place about pulling another’s pots. Makes it a
penalty via law. Before, since sport crabs can not be sold, they were
considered valueless, so there was no theft. Commercial crab pots get you
jail or big fine. Doubt the shotgun, but maybe 8oz sinkers flying through
the air.
Sinkers can work wonders!
Until you use one on a guy with a 9mm willing to send some lead your way.
... or a .308
Or a .50.

Ah, I knew I needed a .50 for something. Now if I can just convince my wife!

If you are getting a .50 BMG, don't screw around with a Barrett. Get
an M2.
At $3-4 a round it does get a little spendy to shoot tho.


They are much cheaper in bulk:

https://www.wikiarms.com/group/50BMG

[email protected] November 10th 19 02:27 AM

boating this weekend
 
On Sat, 9 Nov 2019 20:47:24 -0500, Alex wrote:

wrote:
On Sat, 09 Nov 2019 10:18:44 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Fri, 8 Nov 2019 20:28:13 -0500, Alex wrote:

wrote:
On Thu, 7 Nov 2019 19:25:16 -0500, Alex wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Wed, 6 Nov 2019 16:00:26 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Tue, 5 Nov 2019 19:08:32 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Fri, 1 Nov 2019 17:54:09 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

Heading off to Half Moon Bay for the recreational crab opener in a short
time. Big party as well as able to start fishing for Dungeness crab at
midnight tonight. Some go out and drop pots then. I wait till morning.
Probably a 3 hour pot soak will fill the 10 crab per person limit.
Hope you had good luck!

Bad luck. Came home with donated crabs. We have had a problem the last
few years with pot poachers. Dropped 4 pots came back in a couple hours to
no pots. About a $500 loss. They may show up as the poachers will take
the crabs and then the pots get dropped a ways distant.
I suppose you need to carry a shotgun and anchor over the crab pots any more.

They have put new rules in place about pulling another’s pots. Makes it a
penalty via law. Before, since sport crabs can not be sold, they were
considered valueless, so there was no theft. Commercial crab pots get you
jail or big fine. Doubt the shotgun, but maybe 8oz sinkers flying through
the air.
Sinkers can work wonders!
Until you use one on a guy with a 9mm willing to send some lead your way.
... or a .308
Or a .50.
Ah, I knew I needed a .50 for something. Now if I can just convince my wife!

If you are getting a .50 BMG, don't screw around with a Barrett. Get
an M2.
At $3-4 a round it does get a little spendy to shoot tho.


They are much cheaper in bulk:

https://www.wikiarms.com/group/50BMG


I saw one at 2 bucks and some between 2 and 3 but most is 3 or more.
Top of the box is over $8.50 a round.
Considering an M2 is between 450 and ~600 RPM, that is a lot of money
going down range pretty fast.


Its Me November 10th 19 04:22 AM

boating this weekend
 
On Saturday, November 9, 2019 at 9:28:22 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Sat, 9 Nov 2019 20:47:24 -0500, Alex wrote:

wrote:
On Sat, 09 Nov 2019 10:18:44 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Fri, 8 Nov 2019 20:28:13 -0500, Alex wrote:

wrote:
On Thu, 7 Nov 2019 19:25:16 -0500, Alex wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Wed, 6 Nov 2019 16:00:26 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Tue, 5 Nov 2019 19:08:32 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Fri, 1 Nov 2019 17:54:09 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

Heading off to Half Moon Bay for the recreational crab opener in a short
time. Big party as well as able to start fishing for Dungeness crab at
midnight tonight. Some go out and drop pots then. I wait till morning.
Probably a 3 hour pot soak will fill the 10 crab per person limit.
Hope you had good luck!

Bad luck. Came home with donated crabs. We have had a problem the last
few years with pot poachers. Dropped 4 pots came back in a couple hours to
no pots. About a $500 loss. They may show up as the poachers will take
the crabs and then the pots get dropped a ways distant.
I suppose you need to carry a shotgun and anchor over the crab pots any more.

They have put new rules in place about pulling another’s pots. Makes it a
penalty via law. Before, since sport crabs can not be sold, they were
considered valueless, so there was no theft. Commercial crab pots get you
jail or big fine. Doubt the shotgun, but maybe 8oz sinkers flying through
the air.
Sinkers can work wonders!
Until you use one on a guy with a 9mm willing to send some lead your way.
... or a .308
Or a .50.
Ah, I knew I needed a .50 for something. Now if I can just convince my wife!
If you are getting a .50 BMG, don't screw around with a Barrett. Get
an M2.
At $3-4 a round it does get a little spendy to shoot tho.


They are much cheaper in bulk:

https://www.wikiarms.com/group/50BMG


I saw one at 2 bucks and some between 2 and 3 but most is 3 or more.
Top of the box is over $8.50 a round.
Considering an M2 is between 450 and ~600 RPM, that is a lot of money
going down range pretty fast.


I suspect if one can afford a "toy" like an M2, feeding it isn't much of a consideration. :)

John H.[_5_] November 10th 19 02:33 PM

boating this weekend
 
On Sat, 9 Nov 2019 10:48:08 -0500 (EST), Justan Ohlphart wrote:

John H. Wrote in message:
On Fri, 8 Nov 2019 20:28:13 -0500, Alex wrote: On Thu, 7 Nov 2019 19:25:16 -0500, Alex wrote: John H. wrote: On Wed, 6 Nov 2019 16:00:26 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: John H. wrote: On Tue, 5 Nov 2019 19:08:32 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: John H. wrote: On Fri, 1 Nov 2019 17:54:09 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Heading off to Half Moon Bay for the recreational crab opener in a short time. Big party as well as able to start fishing for Dungeness crab at midnight tonight. Some go out and drop pots then. I wait till morning. Probably a 3 hour pot soak will fill the 10 crab per person limit. Hope you had good luck! Bad luck. Came home with donated crabs. We have had a problem

the last few years with pot poachers. Dropped 4 pots came back in a couple hours to no pots. About a $500 loss. They may show up as the poachers will take the crabs and then the pots get dropped a ways distant. I suppose you need to carry a shotgun and anchor over the crab pots any more. They have put new rules in place about pulling another?s pots. Makes it a penalty via law. Before, since sport crabs can not be sold, they were considered valueless, so there was no theft. Commercial crab pots get you jail or big fine. Doubt the shotgun, but maybe 8oz sinkers flying through the air. Sinkers can work wonders! Until you use one on a guy with a 9mm willing to send some lead your way. ... or a .308Or a .50.Ah, I knew I needed a .50 for something. Now if I can just convince my wife!

Tell her it's a post hole digger.


LOL!

John H.[_5_] November 10th 19 02:38 PM

boating this weekend
 
On Sat, 09 Nov 2019 11:42:05 -0500, wrote:

On Sat, 09 Nov 2019 10:18:44 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Fri, 8 Nov 2019 20:28:13 -0500, Alex wrote:

wrote:
On Thu, 7 Nov 2019 19:25:16 -0500, Alex wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Wed, 6 Nov 2019 16:00:26 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Tue, 5 Nov 2019 19:08:32 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Fri, 1 Nov 2019 17:54:09 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

Heading off to Half Moon Bay for the recreational crab opener in a short
time. Big party as well as able to start fishing for Dungeness crab at
midnight tonight. Some go out and drop pots then. I wait till morning.
Probably a 3 hour pot soak will fill the 10 crab per person limit.
Hope you had good luck!

Bad luck. Came home with donated crabs. We have had a problem the last
few years with pot poachers. Dropped 4 pots came back in a couple hours to
no pots. About a $500 loss. They may show up as the poachers will take
the crabs and then the pots get dropped a ways distant.
I suppose you need to carry a shotgun and anchor over the crab pots any more.

They have put new rules in place about pulling another’s pots. Makes it a
penalty via law. Before, since sport crabs can not be sold, they were
considered valueless, so there was no theft. Commercial crab pots get you
jail or big fine. Doubt the shotgun, but maybe 8oz sinkers flying through
the air.
Sinkers can work wonders!
Until you use one on a guy with a 9mm willing to send some lead your way.
... or a .308

Or a .50.


Ah, I knew I needed a .50 for something. Now if I can just convince my wife!


If you are getting a .50 BMG, don't screw around with a Barrett. Get
an M2.
At $3-4 a round it does get a little spendy to shoot tho.


If I were thinking of something like the M2, I'd just get the M85 and put out a lot of ammo quickly.

John H.[_5_] November 10th 19 02:41 PM

boating this weekend
 
On Sat, 9 Nov 2019 20:22:01 -0800 (PST), Its Me wrote:

On Saturday, November 9, 2019 at 9:28:22 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Sat, 9 Nov 2019 20:47:24 -0500, Alex wrote:

wrote:
On Sat, 09 Nov 2019 10:18:44 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Fri, 8 Nov 2019 20:28:13 -0500, Alex wrote:

wrote:
On Thu, 7 Nov 2019 19:25:16 -0500, Alex wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Wed, 6 Nov 2019 16:00:26 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Tue, 5 Nov 2019 19:08:32 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Fri, 1 Nov 2019 17:54:09 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

Heading off to Half Moon Bay for the recreational crab opener in a short
time. Big party as well as able to start fishing for Dungeness crab at
midnight tonight. Some go out and drop pots then. I wait till morning.
Probably a 3 hour pot soak will fill the 10 crab per person limit.
Hope you had good luck!

Bad luck. Came home with donated crabs. We have had a problem the last
few years with pot poachers. Dropped 4 pots came back in a couple hours to
no pots. About a $500 loss. They may show up as the poachers will take
the crabs and then the pots get dropped a ways distant.
I suppose you need to carry a shotgun and anchor over the crab pots any more.

They have put new rules in place about pulling another’s pots. Makes it a
penalty via law. Before, since sport crabs can not be sold, they were
considered valueless, so there was no theft. Commercial crab pots get you
jail or big fine. Doubt the shotgun, but maybe 8oz sinkers flying through
the air.
Sinkers can work wonders!
Until you use one on a guy with a 9mm willing to send some lead your way.
... or a .308
Or a .50.
Ah, I knew I needed a .50 for something. Now if I can just convince my wife!
If you are getting a .50 BMG, don't screw around with a Barrett. Get
an M2.
At $3-4 a round it does get a little spendy to shoot tho.

They are much cheaper in bulk:

https://www.wikiarms.com/group/50BMG


I saw one at 2 bucks and some between 2 and 3 but most is 3 or more.
Top of the box is over $8.50 a round.
Considering an M2 is between 450 and ~600 RPM, that is a lot of money
going down range pretty fast.


I suspect if one can afford a "toy" like an M2, feeding it isn't much of a consideration. :)


Truth.

[email protected] November 10th 19 06:51 PM

boating this weekend
 
On Sun, 10 Nov 2019 09:41:15 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Sat, 9 Nov 2019 20:22:01 -0800 (PST), Its Me wrote:

On Saturday, November 9, 2019 at 9:28:22 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Sat, 9 Nov 2019 20:47:24 -0500, Alex wrote:

wrote:
On Sat, 09 Nov 2019 10:18:44 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Fri, 8 Nov 2019 20:28:13 -0500, Alex wrote:

wrote:
On Thu, 7 Nov 2019 19:25:16 -0500, Alex wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Wed, 6 Nov 2019 16:00:26 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Tue, 5 Nov 2019 19:08:32 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Fri, 1 Nov 2019 17:54:09 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

Heading off to Half Moon Bay for the recreational crab opener in a short
time. Big party as well as able to start fishing for Dungeness crab at
midnight tonight. Some go out and drop pots then. I wait till morning.
Probably a 3 hour pot soak will fill the 10 crab per person limit.
Hope you had good luck!

Bad luck. Came home with donated crabs. We have had a problem the last
few years with pot poachers. Dropped 4 pots came back in a couple hours to
no pots. About a $500 loss. They may show up as the poachers will take
the crabs and then the pots get dropped a ways distant.
I suppose you need to carry a shotgun and anchor over the crab pots any more.

They have put new rules in place about pulling another’s pots. Makes it a
penalty via law. Before, since sport crabs can not be sold, they were
considered valueless, so there was no theft. Commercial crab pots get you
jail or big fine. Doubt the shotgun, but maybe 8oz sinkers flying through
the air.
Sinkers can work wonders!
Until you use one on a guy with a 9mm willing to send some lead your way.
... or a .308
Or a .50.
Ah, I knew I needed a .50 for something. Now if I can just convince my wife!
If you are getting a .50 BMG, don't screw around with a Barrett. Get
an M2.
At $3-4 a round it does get a little spendy to shoot tho.

They are much cheaper in bulk:

https://www.wikiarms.com/group/50BMG

I saw one at 2 bucks and some between 2 and 3 but most is 3 or more.
Top of the box is over $8.50 a round.
Considering an M2 is between 450 and ~600 RPM, that is a lot of money
going down range pretty fast.


I suspect if one can afford a "toy" like an M2, feeding it isn't much of a consideration. :)


Truth.


I haven't looked recently but M2s were going for about as much as a
big outboard (see what I did, boat reference) a year or two ago.

[email protected] November 10th 19 06:57 PM

boating this weekend
 
On Sun, 10 Nov 2019 09:38:01 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Sat, 09 Nov 2019 11:42:05 -0500, wrote:

On Sat, 09 Nov 2019 10:18:44 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Fri, 8 Nov 2019 20:28:13 -0500, Alex wrote:

wrote:
On Thu, 7 Nov 2019 19:25:16 -0500, Alex wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Wed, 6 Nov 2019 16:00:26 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Tue, 5 Nov 2019 19:08:32 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Fri, 1 Nov 2019 17:54:09 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

Heading off to Half Moon Bay for the recreational crab opener in a short
time. Big party as well as able to start fishing for Dungeness crab at
midnight tonight. Some go out and drop pots then. I wait till morning.
Probably a 3 hour pot soak will fill the 10 crab per person limit.
Hope you had good luck!

Bad luck. Came home with donated crabs. We have had a problem the last
few years with pot poachers. Dropped 4 pots came back in a couple hours to
no pots. About a $500 loss. They may show up as the poachers will take
the crabs and then the pots get dropped a ways distant.
I suppose you need to carry a shotgun and anchor over the crab pots any more.

They have put new rules in place about pulling another’s pots. Makes it a
penalty via law. Before, since sport crabs can not be sold, they were
considered valueless, so there was no theft. Commercial crab pots get you
jail or big fine. Doubt the shotgun, but maybe 8oz sinkers flying through
the air.
Sinkers can work wonders!
Until you use one on a guy with a 9mm willing to send some lead your way.
... or a .308

Or a .50.

Ah, I knew I needed a .50 for something. Now if I can just convince my wife!


If you are getting a .50 BMG, don't screw around with a Barrett. Get
an M2.
At $3-4 a round it does get a little spendy to shoot tho.


If I were thinking of something like the M2, I'd just get the M85 and put out a lot of ammo quickly.


I have heard that the M85 wasn't as reliable as the M2 and they use
M2s on the Abrams. Dunno, that is all after my time. We had M2's
removed from WWII aircraft (fast shooting, skinny barrel) on our
cutters. We had to be careful not to burn them up. The GMC did slow
them back down to the 400 RPM rate tho. (maybe even less than that).

John H.[_5_] November 10th 19 08:18 PM

boating this weekend
 
On Sun, 10 Nov 2019 13:57:50 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 10 Nov 2019 09:38:01 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Sat, 09 Nov 2019 11:42:05 -0500,
wrote:

On Sat, 09 Nov 2019 10:18:44 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Fri, 8 Nov 2019 20:28:13 -0500, Alex wrote:

wrote:
On Thu, 7 Nov 2019 19:25:16 -0500, Alex wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Wed, 6 Nov 2019 16:00:26 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Tue, 5 Nov 2019 19:08:32 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Fri, 1 Nov 2019 17:54:09 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

Heading off to Half Moon Bay for the recreational crab opener in a short
time. Big party as well as able to start fishing for Dungeness crab at
midnight tonight. Some go out and drop pots then. I wait till morning.
Probably a 3 hour pot soak will fill the 10 crab per person limit.
Hope you had good luck!

Bad luck. Came home with donated crabs. We have had a problem the last
few years with pot poachers. Dropped 4 pots came back in a couple hours to
no pots. About a $500 loss. They may show up as the poachers will take
the crabs and then the pots get dropped a ways distant.
I suppose you need to carry a shotgun and anchor over the crab pots any more.

They have put new rules in place about pulling another’s pots. Makes it a
penalty via law. Before, since sport crabs can not be sold, they were
considered valueless, so there was no theft. Commercial crab pots get you
jail or big fine. Doubt the shotgun, but maybe 8oz sinkers flying through
the air.
Sinkers can work wonders!
Until you use one on a guy with a 9mm willing to send some lead your way.
... or a .308

Or a .50.

Ah, I knew I needed a .50 for something. Now if I can just convince my wife!

If you are getting a .50 BMG, don't screw around with a Barrett. Get
an M2.
At $3-4 a round it does get a little spendy to shoot tho.


If I were thinking of something like the M2, I'd just get the M85 and put out a lot of ammo quickly.


I have heard that the M85 wasn't as reliable as the M2 and they use
M2s on the Abrams. Dunno, that is all after my time. We had M2's
removed from WWII aircraft (fast shooting, skinny barrel) on our
cutters. We had to be careful not to burn them up. The GMC did slow
them back down to the 400 RPM rate tho. (maybe even less than that).


My tanks in Germany all had M85's. We put thousands of rounds through eight of them without a
problem. These were on M-60 tank chassis. Don't know what they have on the Abrams.

Alex[_22_] November 11th 19 11:57 PM

boating this weekend
 
wrote:
On Sat, 9 Nov 2019 20:47:24 -0500, Alex wrote:

wrote:
On Sat, 09 Nov 2019 10:18:44 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Fri, 8 Nov 2019 20:28:13 -0500, Alex wrote:

wrote:
On Thu, 7 Nov 2019 19:25:16 -0500, Alex wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Wed, 6 Nov 2019 16:00:26 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Tue, 5 Nov 2019 19:08:32 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Fri, 1 Nov 2019 17:54:09 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

Heading off to Half Moon Bay for the recreational crab opener in a short
time. Big party as well as able to start fishing for Dungeness crab at
midnight tonight. Some go out and drop pots then. I wait till morning.
Probably a 3 hour pot soak will fill the 10 crab per person limit.
Hope you had good luck!

Bad luck. Came home with donated crabs. We have had a problem the last
few years with pot poachers. Dropped 4 pots came back in a couple hours to
no pots. About a $500 loss. They may show up as the poachers will take
the crabs and then the pots get dropped a ways distant.
I suppose you need to carry a shotgun and anchor over the crab pots any more.

They have put new rules in place about pulling another’s pots. Makes it a
penalty via law. Before, since sport crabs can not be sold, they were
considered valueless, so there was no theft. Commercial crab pots get you
jail or big fine. Doubt the shotgun, but maybe 8oz sinkers flying through
the air.
Sinkers can work wonders!
Until you use one on a guy with a 9mm willing to send some lead your way.
... or a .308
Or a .50.
Ah, I knew I needed a .50 for something. Now if I can just convince my wife!
If you are getting a .50 BMG, don't screw around with a Barrett. Get
an M2.
At $3-4 a round it does get a little spendy to shoot tho.

They are much cheaper in bulk:

https://www.wikiarms.com/group/50BMG

I saw one at 2 bucks and some between 2 and 3 but most is 3 or more.
Top of the box is over $8.50 a round.
Considering an M2 is between 450 and ~600 RPM, that is a lot of money
going down range pretty fast.


I don't have a .50 BMG but it's on my list. A bolt action - not a
semi-auto.

My most expensive gun to shoot is my Barrett MRAD in .338 Lapua Magnum.
I fire match ammo, that costs a bit more, but a typical outing is only
20-40 rounds. The challenge is dialing it in for the conditions that
day and hitting a 30" diameter steel target at 1000 yards a few times.
A .50 BMG would serve the same purpose.


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