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On 4/15/2019 1:46 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

Notre Dame Cathedral in Paris is on fire.

Looks like one whole section and steeple is destroyed.

Sad.




Based on images and video on TV it looks like some repair or
construction work was going on. Scaffolding surrounds the
area on fire.


Contractors starting fires is far from unheard of. You may have some
welding or brazing going on or you might have an electrical problem.
Solvents can make a little fire a big one pretty fast and a lot of the
wood in that building is centuries old.

Muslims attacking Catholic churches is not unheard of either. They're calling it an accident now.
We'll see.


Where is Harry? Was this just a pro choice demonstration that got out
of hand? ;-)


I'm sure Harry is thrilled to his toes. If it impairs Christianity, it's gotta be good!

If there were an honest donation site for rebuilding, I'd donate. But, I'd find it very hard to
trust any fly-by-night start ups. Wonder who is getting the $100 million donated by the French
billionaire?


I think the Catholic Church can find enough money in the couch
cushions to repair this but it will never be the same.
I did some reading and that roof was less than 200 years old (1844 or
so). Still an antique but not medieval
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I think the Catholic Church can find enough money in the couch
cushions to repair this but it will never be the same.
I did some reading and that roof was less than 200 years old (1844 or
so). Still an antique but not medieval

.......

Now they’re trying to find 800 yr old oak wood to replace beams...
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I think the Catholic Church can find enough money in the couch
cushions to repair this but it will never be the same.
I did some reading and that roof was less than 200 years old (1844 or
so). Still an antique but not medieval

......

Now they’re trying to find 800 yr old oak wood to replace beams...


They will have to tear down some other historic building to do that.


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Frances ambassador to Canada is in Halifax today and a local host interviewed her. Said she was brought up in and still lives in Paris...close to the Effile Tower. Says she jogs along the Seine and can see Notre Dame from her run route. People have been approaching her on how they can help and she said something will be set up to accept donations.
I have to question how much insurance money will be available from both the construction company and the church itself.
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On Tue, 16 Apr 2019 13:55:01 -0400, John H.
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On Tue, 16 Apr 2019 13:37:19 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 16 Apr 2019 05:54:24 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Mon, 15 Apr 2019 15:53:28 -0400,
wrote:

On Mon, 15 Apr 2019 13:48:34 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 4/15/2019 1:46 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

Notre Dame Cathedral in Paris is on fire.

Looks like one whole section and steeple is destroyed.

Sad.




Based on images and video on TV it looks like some repair or
construction work was going on. Scaffolding surrounds the
area on fire.


Contractors starting fires is far from unheard of. You may have some
welding or brazing going on or you might have an electrical problem.
Solvents can make a little fire a big one pretty fast and a lot of the
wood in that building is centuries old.

Muslims attacking Catholic churches is not unheard of either. They're
calling it an accident now.
We'll see.

Where is Harry? Was this just a pro choice demonstration that got out
of hand? ;-)


I'm sure Harry is thrilled to his toes. If it impairs Christianity, it's gotta be good!

If there were an honest donation site for rebuilding, I'd donate. But,
I'd find it very hard to
trust any fly-by-night start ups. Wonder who is getting the $100 million
donated by the French
billionaire?


I think the Catholic Church can find enough money in the couch
cushions to repair this but it will never be the same.
I did some reading and that roof was less than 200 years old (1844 or
so). Still an antique but not medieval


Most of the wood work was done in 1200’s. Some repair in the 1800’s. They
called the roof the Forest as it took a forest to build.

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On Tue, 16 Apr 2019 13:55:01 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Tue, 16 Apr 2019 13:37:19 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 16 Apr 2019 05:54:24 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Mon, 15 Apr 2019 15:53:28 -0400,
wrote:

On Mon, 15 Apr 2019 13:48:34 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 4/15/2019 1:46 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

Notre Dame Cathedral in Paris is on fire.

Looks like one whole section and steeple is destroyed.

Sad.




Based on images and video on TV it looks like some repair or
construction work was going on. Scaffolding surrounds the
area on fire.


Contractors starting fires is far from unheard of. You may have some
welding or brazing going on or you might have an electrical problem.
Solvents can make a little fire a big one pretty fast and a lot of the
wood in that building is centuries old.

Muslims attacking Catholic churches is not unheard of either. They're
calling it an accident now.
We'll see.

Where is Harry? Was this just a pro choice demonstration that got out
of hand? ;-)

I'm sure Harry is thrilled to his toes. If it impairs Christianity, it's gotta be good!

If there were an honest donation site for rebuilding, I'd donate. But,
I'd find it very hard to
trust any fly-by-night start ups. Wonder who is getting the $100 million
donated by the French
billionaire?


I think the Catholic Church can find enough money in the couch
cushions to repair this but it will never be the same.
I did some reading and that roof was less than 200 years old (1844 or
so). Still an antique but not medieval


Most of the wood work was done in 1200’s. Some repair in the 1800’s. They
called the roof the Forest as it took a forest to build.


The article I read said the roof was replaced as part of a major
renovation around 1844. I doubt you would ever find that much antique
oak, if you tore down every barn you could still find standing.
I think they should just rebuild it with the best kiln dried hardwood
they can find and let it age another 100 years or so until it looks
right. They might even want to back it up with some steel and tuck
some fire suppression in there. There is a lot to be said about "new".
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Frances ambassador to Canada is in Halifax today and a local host interviewed her. Said she was brought up in and still lives in Paris...close to the Effile Tower. Says she jogs along the Seine and can see Notre Dame from her run route. People have been approaching her on how they can help and she said something will be set up to accept donations.
I have to question how much insurance money will be available from both the construction company and the church itself.


Effile Tower? Where is THAT?

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