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Alex[_16_] October 18th 18 12:43 AM

Here you go John ....
 
True North wrote:
09:47Keyser Soze
- show quoted text -
"Discussion kind of begs the question...who would write to Herring so
regularly he'd need a mailbox?"

Bill collectors....junk mail producers...hillbilly Jambouree event ticket pimps?


Instigating and agitating again, dummy?


Bill[_12_] October 18th 18 04:31 AM

Here you go John ....
 
Alex wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Tue, 16 Oct 2018 14:49:40 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

I put a shovel or so of gravel in the bottom of the hole. I like to
keep our damp soil away from the treated wood.
I do my mixing in the wheelbarrow. Don't recall seeing the dry mix
dumped into the hole and then water sprayed on top.

This isn't 'treated wood', it's cedar. Dampness won't hurt it.


Over time it will. Ever seen an old cedar fence?


Cedar is good for fences and stuff that does not touch the ground. You
want waterproof wood, cypress from Florida will suffice.


John H.[_5_] October 18th 18 11:21 AM

Here you go John ....
 
On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 19:34:56 -0400, Alex wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Tue, 16 Oct 2018 14:49:40 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

I put a shovel or so of gravel in the bottom of the hole. I like to keep our damp soil away from the treated wood.
I do my mixing in the wheelbarrow. Don't recall seeing the dry mix dumped into the hole and then water sprayed on top.

This isn't 'treated wood', it's cedar. Dampness won't hurt it.


Over time it will. Ever seen an old cedar fence?


Hey, I just want it to last 'til I die!

John H.[_5_] October 18th 18 11:22 AM

Here you go John ....
 
On Thu, 18 Oct 2018 03:31:29 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

Alex wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Tue, 16 Oct 2018 14:49:40 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

I put a shovel or so of gravel in the bottom of the hole. I like to
keep our damp soil away from the treated wood.
I do my mixing in the wheelbarrow. Don't recall seeing the dry mix
dumped into the hole and then water sprayed on top.
This isn't 'treated wood', it's cedar. Dampness won't hurt it.


Over time it will. Ever seen an old cedar fence?


Cedar is good for fences and stuff that does not touch the ground. You
want waterproof wood, cypress from Florida will suffice.


We don't have any Florida trips planned, darnit!

[email protected] October 18th 18 02:58 PM

Here you go John ....
 
On Thu, 18 Oct 2018 06:22:52 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Thu, 18 Oct 2018 03:31:29 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

Alex wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Tue, 16 Oct 2018 14:49:40 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

I put a shovel or so of gravel in the bottom of the hole. I like to
keep our damp soil away from the treated wood.
I do my mixing in the wheelbarrow. Don't recall seeing the dry mix
dumped into the hole and then water sprayed on top.
This isn't 'treated wood', it's cedar. Dampness won't hurt it.

Over time it will. Ever seen an old cedar fence?


Cedar is good for fences and stuff that does not touch the ground. You
want waterproof wood, cypress from Florida will suffice.


We don't have any Florida trips planned, darnit!


You can get cypress just about anywhere but it is a bit spendy. We
have it as wainscotting in the living room and the new room out back
tho. I caught a deal. (470 lf of 1x6 T&G for $75).
I looked on Wood Finder and there are 2 guys up near you (Vienna and
Annapolis) but neither seem to have 4x4 cypress listed on their sites.
You probably have to get it on the internet but they might be able to
come up with some if they do their own milling. My saw mill guy died
a couple years ago. I could get just about anything from him. That is
where I got the 4" live edge mantle piece on our fireplace cabinet I
built.

John H.[_5_] October 22nd 18 11:16 AM

Here you go John ....
 
On Thu, 18 Oct 2018 09:58:39 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 18 Oct 2018 06:22:52 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Thu, 18 Oct 2018 03:31:29 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

Alex wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Tue, 16 Oct 2018 14:49:40 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

I put a shovel or so of gravel in the bottom of the hole. I like to
keep our damp soil away from the treated wood.
I do my mixing in the wheelbarrow. Don't recall seeing the dry mix
dumped into the hole and then water sprayed on top.
This isn't 'treated wood', it's cedar. Dampness won't hurt it.

Over time it will. Ever seen an old cedar fence?


Cedar is good for fences and stuff that does not touch the ground. You
want waterproof wood, cypress from Florida will suffice.


We don't have any Florida trips planned, darnit!


You can get cypress just about anywhere but it is a bit spendy. We
have it as wainscotting in the living room and the new room out back
tho. I caught a deal. (470 lf of 1x6 T&G for $75).
I looked on Wood Finder and there are 2 guys up near you (Vienna and
Annapolis) but neither seem to have 4x4 cypress listed on their sites.
You probably have to get it on the internet but they might be able to
come up with some if they do their own milling. My saw mill guy died
a couple years ago. I could get just about anything from him. That is
where I got the 4" live edge mantle piece on our fireplace cabinet I
built.


After some reading about cedar versus treated lumber, I may switch back to treated wood. Hell with
the cute looks.

Mr. Luddite[_4_] October 22nd 18 12:22 PM

Here you go John ....
 
On 10/22/2018 6:16 AM, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 18 Oct 2018 09:58:39 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 18 Oct 2018 06:22:52 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Thu, 18 Oct 2018 03:31:29 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

Alex wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Tue, 16 Oct 2018 14:49:40 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

I put a shovel or so of gravel in the bottom of the hole. I like to
keep our damp soil away from the treated wood.
I do my mixing in the wheelbarrow. Don't recall seeing the dry mix
dumped into the hole and then water sprayed on top.
This isn't 'treated wood', it's cedar. Dampness won't hurt it.

Over time it will. Ever seen an old cedar fence?


Cedar is good for fences and stuff that does not touch the ground. You
want waterproof wood, cypress from Florida will suffice.

We don't have any Florida trips planned, darnit!


You can get cypress just about anywhere but it is a bit spendy. We
have it as wainscotting in the living room and the new room out back
tho. I caught a deal. (470 lf of 1x6 T&G for $75).
I looked on Wood Finder and there are 2 guys up near you (Vienna and
Annapolis) but neither seem to have 4x4 cypress listed on their sites.
You probably have to get it on the internet but they might be able to
come up with some if they do their own milling. My saw mill guy died
a couple years ago. I could get just about anything from him. That is
where I got the 4" live edge mantle piece on our fireplace cabinet I
built.


After some reading about cedar versus treated lumber, I may switch back to treated wood. Hell with
the cute looks.



I put up a lot of cedar fencing at my daughter's house. It was treated
somehow but the tag on them said they were not for use where they
contacted the ground.

justan October 22nd 18 02:40 PM

Here you go John ....
 
John H. Wrote in message:
On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 19:34:56 -0400, Alex wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Tue, 16 Oct 2018 14:49:40 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

I put a shovel or so of gravel in the bottom of the hole. I like to keep our damp soil away from the treated wood.
I do my mixing in the wheelbarrow. Don't recall seeing the dry mix dumped into the hole and then water sprayed on top.
This isn't 'treated wood', it's cedar. Dampness won't hurt it.


Over time it will. Ever seen an old cedar fence?


Hey, I just want it to last 'til I die!


If you want to live longer choose a wood that won't rot. Teak
would work. So would that stuff I advised Fat Harry to use for
his deck.
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[email protected] October 22nd 18 05:39 PM

Here you go John ....
 
On Mon, 22 Oct 2018 09:40:32 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

John H. Wrote in message:
On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 19:34:56 -0400, Alex wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Tue, 16 Oct 2018 14:49:40 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

I put a shovel or so of gravel in the bottom of the hole. I like to keep our damp soil away from the treated wood.
I do my mixing in the wheelbarrow. Don't recall seeing the dry mix dumped into the hole and then water sprayed on top.
This isn't 'treated wood', it's cedar. Dampness won't hurt it.

Over time it will. Ever seen an old cedar fence?


Hey, I just want it to last 'til I die!


If you want to live longer choose a wood that won't rot. Teak
would work. So would that stuff I advised Fat Harry to use for
his deck.


Hard to beat Azek for lasting a long time. I am certainly not thrilled
with the "treated" wood they sell at the home store. If you have a
marine supply they can get you real CCA at a significant saturation
(0.8 or so).
Of course at our age that cedar might last as long as we do. ;-)

I am getting ready to pull my test of CaC lumber using an assortment
of fasteners and materials. It has been out in the weather laying on
the ground for 5 years.
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/PT%20lumber...2010-25-13.jpg

Alex[_16_] October 24th 18 12:49 AM

Here you go John ....
 
John H. wrote:
On Thu, 18 Oct 2018 09:58:39 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 18 Oct 2018 06:22:52 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Thu, 18 Oct 2018 03:31:29 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

Alex wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Tue, 16 Oct 2018 14:49:40 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

I put a shovel or so of gravel in the bottom of the hole. I like to
keep our damp soil away from the treated wood.
I do my mixing in the wheelbarrow. Don't recall seeing the dry mix
dumped into the hole and then water sprayed on top.
This isn't 'treated wood', it's cedar. Dampness won't hurt it.
Over time it will. Ever seen an old cedar fence?

Cedar is good for fences and stuff that does not touch the ground. You
want waterproof wood, cypress from Florida will suffice.
We don't have any Florida trips planned, darnit!

You can get cypress just about anywhere but it is a bit spendy. We
have it as wainscotting in the living room and the new room out back
tho. I caught a deal. (470 lf of 1x6 T&G for $75).
I looked on Wood Finder and there are 2 guys up near you (Vienna and
Annapolis) but neither seem to have 4x4 cypress listed on their sites.
You probably have to get it on the internet but they might be able to
come up with some if they do their own milling. My saw mill guy died
a couple years ago. I could get just about anything from him. That is
where I got the 4" live edge mantle piece on our fireplace cabinet I
built.

After some reading about cedar versus treated lumber, I may switch back to treated wood. Hell with
the cute looks.


Just paint it with roof coating!

Alex[_16_] October 24th 18 12:50 AM

Here you go John ....
 
justan wrote:
John H. Wrote in message:
On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 19:34:56 -0400, Alex wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Tue, 16 Oct 2018 14:49:40 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

I put a shovel or so of gravel in the bottom of the hole. I like to keep our damp soil away from the treated wood.
I do my mixing in the wheelbarrow. Don't recall seeing the dry mix dumped into the hole and then water sprayed on top.
This isn't 'treated wood', it's cedar. Dampness won't hurt it.
Over time it will. Ever seen an old cedar fence?

Hey, I just want it to last 'til I die!

If you want to live longer choose a wood that won't rot. Teak
would work. So would that stuff I advised Fat Harry to use for
his deck.

Ipe?

justan October 24th 18 01:10 AM

Here you go John ....
 
Alex Wrote in message:
justan wrote: John H. Wrote in message: On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 19:34:56 -0400, Alex wrote: John H. wrote: On Tue, 16 Oct 2018 14:49:40 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote: I put a shovel or so of gravel in the bottom of the hole. I like to keep our damp soil away from the treated wood. I do my mixing in the wheelbarrow. Don't recall seeing the dry mix dumped into the hole and then water sprayed on top. This isn't 'treated wood', it's cedar. Dampness won't hurt it. Over time it will. Ever seen an old cedar fence? Hey, I just want it to last 'til I die! If you want to live longer choose a wood that won't rot. Teak would work. So would that stuff I advised Fat Harry to use for his deck.Ipe?


Yes.
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[email protected] October 24th 18 01:37 AM

Here you go John ....
 
On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 20:10:27 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

Alex Wrote in message:
justan wrote: John H. Wrote in message: On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 19:34:56 -0400, Alex wrote: John H. wrote: On Tue, 16 Oct 2018 14:49:40 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote: I put a shovel or so of gravel in the bottom of the hole. I like to keep our damp soil away from the treated wood. I do my mixing in the wheelbarrow. Don't recall seeing the dry mix dumped into the hole and then water sprayed on top. This isn't 'treated wood', it's cedar. Dampness won't hurt it. Over time it will. Ever seen an old cedar fence? Hey, I just want it to last 'til I die! If you want to live longer choose a wood that won't rot. Teak would work. So would that stuff I advised Fat Harry to use for his deck.Ipe?


Yes.


If you used Ipe I doubt you need a 4x4. I am not sure how you would
break a 2x4.
I still have some scraps around here from the Ipe deck in the new tiki
bar. I also picked up some in the keys when they were putting a new
deck in at the bight. That was what convinced us to use it for the
bar. I gave my wife a piece of Trex, a piece of Azec type material and
a piece of Ipe. There was no question.
We already knew PT was a no go.

[email protected] October 24th 18 05:47 PM

Here you go John ....
 
On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 06:16:37 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 20:37:11 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 20:10:27 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

Alex Wrote in message:
justan wrote: John H. Wrote in message: On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 19:34:56 -0400, Alex wrote: John H. wrote: On Tue, 16 Oct 2018 14:49:40 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote: I put a shovel or so of gravel in the bottom of the hole. I like to keep our damp soil away from the treated wood. I do my mixing in the wheelbarrow. Don't recall seeing the dry mix dumped into the hole and then water sprayed on top. This isn't 'treated wood', it's cedar. Dampness won't hurt it. Over time it will. Ever seen an old cedar fence? Hey, I just want it to last 'til I die! If you want to live longer choose a wood that won't rot. Teak would work. So would that stuff I advised Fat Harry to use for his deck.Ipe?

Yes.


If you used Ipe I doubt you need a 4x4. I am not sure how you would
break a 2x4.
I still have some scraps around here from the Ipe deck in the new tiki
bar. I also picked up some in the keys when they were putting a new
deck in at the bight. That was what convinced us to use it for the
bar. I gave my wife a piece of Trex, a piece of Azec type material and
a piece of Ipe. There was no question.
We already knew PT was a no go.



Most of the ready-made brackets for mounting the mail box mount on 4X4's.


I was just referring to the strength of the wood but you could double
up the last couple inches.
I am sure you will find Azek is cheaper than Ipe.

John H.[_5_] October 24th 18 06:37 PM

Here you go John ....
 
On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 12:47:04 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 06:16:37 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 20:37:11 -0400,
wrote:

On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 20:10:27 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

Alex Wrote in message:
justan wrote: John H. Wrote in message: On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 19:34:56 -0400, Alex wrote: John H. wrote: On Tue, 16 Oct 2018 14:49:40 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote: I put a shovel or so of gravel in the bottom of the hole. I like to keep our damp soil away from the treated wood. I do my mixing in the wheelbarrow. Don't recall seeing the dry mix dumped into the hole and then water sprayed on top. This isn't 'treated wood', it's cedar. Dampness won't hurt it. Over time it will. Ever seen an old cedar fence? Hey, I just want it to last 'til I die! If you want to live longer choose a wood that won't rot. Teak would work. So would that stuff I advised Fat Harry to use for his deck.Ipe?

Yes.

If you used Ipe I doubt you need a 4x4. I am not sure how you would
break a 2x4.
I still have some scraps around here from the Ipe deck in the new tiki
bar. I also picked up some in the keys when they were putting a new
deck in at the bight. That was what convinced us to use it for the
bar. I gave my wife a piece of Trex, a piece of Azec type material and
a piece of Ipe. There was no question.
We already knew PT was a no go.



Most of the ready-made brackets for mounting the mail box mount on 4X4's.


I was just referring to the strength of the wood but you could double
up the last couple inches.
I am sure you will find Azek is cheaper than Ipe.


I used treated 4X4 ready-made mailbox post. Cost about $27. Next time I'll make my own and save a
couple dollars (right!).


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