New Moto Guzzi
 

https://www.rideapart.com/articles/2...termot-reveal/

Finally a Moto Guzzi with lines and ergonomics I like - except for that short windscreen. But, maybe
it's got another six inches of adjustment.

New Moto Guzzi
 

John H
https://www.rideapart.com/articles/2...termot-reveal/

Finally a Moto Guzzi with lines and ergonomics I like - except for that short windscreen. But, maybe
it's got another six inches of adjustment.

.........,,,,

At least it’d got its seat up where it should be...

New Moto Guzzi
 

On 10/3/2018 7:02 AM, John H. wrote:

https://www.rideapart.com/articles/2...termot-reveal/

Finally a Moto Guzzi with lines and ergonomics I like - except for that short windscreen. But, maybe
it's got another six inches of adjustment.



I am surprised that air-cooled motorcycles can still meet emission
standards that continue to become tighter year by year.

The emission standards are becoming more stringent for motorcycles sold
in Europe as well as the USA.

Liquid cooled engines are easier to "tune" for emission control
due to their more uniform operating temperature.

New Moto Guzzi
 

6:40 AMMr. Luddite
- show quoted text -
I am surprised that air-cooled motorcycles can still meet emission
standards that continue to become tighter year by year.

The emission standards are becoming more stringent for motorcycles sold
in Europe as well as the USA.

Liquid cooled engines are easier to "tune" for emission control
due to their more uniform operating temperature.

............

Not sure how they keep up with the standards Richard. My Guzzi is a 2000 and has distributorless ignition and throttle body injection but no O2 sensor or catalytic mufflers. The new ones have sensors all over...

New Moto Guzzi
 

On 10/3/2018 7:52 AM, Tim wrote:

6:40 AMMr. Luddite
- show quoted text -
I am surprised that air-cooled motorcycles can still meet emission
standards that continue to become tighter year by year.

The emission standards are becoming more stringent for motorcycles sold
in Europe as well as the USA.

Liquid cooled engines are easier to "tune" for emission control
due to their more uniform operating temperature.

...........

Not sure how they keep up with the standards Richard. My Guzzi is a 2000 and has distributorless ignition and throttle body injection but no O2 sensor or catalytic mufflers. The new ones have sensors all over...


I know that Harley has had a more difficult time meeting emission
standards with their air-cooled engines but are still managing to
do so on many of their models. Some have liquid cooled (oil) heads
and air-cooled cylinders. All new Harleys (since 2008 I think)
have catalytic converters in the exhaust systems.

The Suzuki I have is a 2008. It's liquid cooled, has a catalytic
converter and is fuel injected.

New Moto Guzzi
 

7:30 AMMr. Luddite
- show quoted text -
I know that Harley has had a more difficult time meeting emission
standards with their air-cooled engines but are still managing to
do so on many of their models. Some have liquid cooled (oil) heads
and air-cooled cylinders. All new Harleys (since 2008 I think)
have catalytic converters in the exhaust systems.

The Suzuki I have is a 2008. It's liquid cooled, has a catalytic
converter and is fuel injected.

..........

Maybe be the restrictions are a bit less than automotive because there’s a lot less bikes than cars and mainly seasonal. Beats me. I thought 2strokes were going to be snuffed but that’s the normal power choice for chainsaws and weed eaters

New Moto Guzzi
 

On Wed, 3 Oct 2018 04:20:01 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

John H
https://www.rideapart.com/articles/2...termot-reveal/

Finally a Moto Guzzi with lines and ergonomics I like - except for that short windscreen. But, maybe
it's got another six inches of adjustment.

........,,,,

At least it’d got its seat up where it should be...

This is the first one in a long while that I actually like.

New Moto Guzzi
 

On Wed, 3 Oct 2018 07:40:41 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 10/3/2018 7:02 AM, John H. wrote:

https://www.rideapart.com/articles/2...termot-reveal/

Finally a Moto Guzzi with lines and ergonomics I like - except for that short windscreen. But, maybe
it's got another six inches of adjustment.



I am surprised that air-cooled motorcycles can still meet emission
standards that continue to become tighter year by year.

The emission standards are becoming more stringent for motorcycles sold
in Europe as well as the USA.

Liquid cooled engines are easier to "tune" for emission control
due to their more uniform operating temperature.

I expect the Guzzi's are 'de-tuned' to meet American emission standards. My 1989 Mille is
carbureted, but came with the 'US jetting', which didn't help performance at all. Right after buying
it I replaced the jets with the European jets, put different air filters and exhaust on it, and the
thing is much, much improved.

On the Moto Guzzi groups, folks are already talking about putting new chips in their computers for
better performance. Motorcycles aren't emissions tested, at least in Virginia, like cars are. So
improvements made after the fact don't get caught.

New Moto Guzzi
 

On Wed, 03 Oct 2018 16:27:49 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 3 Oct 2018 07:40:41 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 10/3/2018 7:02 AM, John H. wrote:

https://www.rideapart.com/articles/2...termot-reveal/

Finally a Moto Guzzi with lines and ergonomics I like - except for that short windscreen. But, maybe
it's got another six inches of adjustment.



I am surprised that air-cooled motorcycles can still meet emission
standards that continue to become tighter year by year.

The emission standards are becoming more stringent for motorcycles sold
in Europe as well as the USA.

Liquid cooled engines are easier to "tune" for emission control
due to their more uniform operating temperature.

I expect the Guzzi's are 'de-tuned' to meet American emission standards. My 1989 Mille is
carbureted, but came with the 'US jetting', which didn't help performance at all. Right after buying
it I replaced the jets with the European jets, put different air filters and exhaust on it, and the
thing is much, much improved.

On the Moto Guzzi groups, folks are already talking about putting new chips in their computers for
better performance. Motorcycles aren't emissions tested, at least in Virginia, like cars are. So
improvements made after the fact don't get caught.

Al Gore is going to get you.

We actually do not get inspected at all but all of my stuff is
unaltered and is not throwing codes so I would pass the test.
I doubt any of my old 70's HD "shovels" would pass much of an emission
test tho.

New Moto Guzzi
 

On Wed, 03 Oct 2018 20:45:34 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 03 Oct 2018 16:27:49 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 3 Oct 2018 07:40:41 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 10/3/2018 7:02 AM, John H. wrote:

https://www.rideapart.com/articles/2...termot-reveal/

Finally a Moto Guzzi with lines and ergonomics I like - except for that short windscreen. But, maybe
it's got another six inches of adjustment.



I am surprised that air-cooled motorcycles can still meet emission
standards that continue to become tighter year by year.

The emission standards are becoming more stringent for motorcycles sold
in Europe as well as the USA.

Liquid cooled engines are easier to "tune" for emission control
due to their more uniform operating temperature.

I expect the Guzzi's are 'de-tuned' to meet American emission standards. My 1989 Mille is
carbureted, but came with the 'US jetting', which didn't help performance at all. Right after buying
it I replaced the jets with the European jets, put different air filters and exhaust on it, and the
thing is much, much improved.

On the Moto Guzzi groups, folks are already talking about putting new chips in their computers for
better performance. Motorcycles aren't emissions tested, at least in Virginia, like cars are. So
improvements made after the fact don't get caught.

Al Gore is going to get you.

We actually do not get inspected at all but all of my stuff is
unaltered and is not throwing codes so I would pass the test.
I doubt any of my old 70's HD "shovels" would pass much of an emission
test tho.

We have an annual safety inspection for motorcycles just as we do for autos.

New Moto Guzzi
 

On 10/4/2018 1:15 PM, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 03 Oct 2018 20:45:34 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 03 Oct 2018 16:27:49 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 3 Oct 2018 07:40:41 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 10/3/2018 7:02 AM, John H. wrote:

https://www.rideapart.com/articles/2...termot-reveal/

Finally a Moto Guzzi with lines and ergonomics I like - except for that short windscreen. But, maybe
it's got another six inches of adjustment.



I am surprised that air-cooled motorcycles can still meet emission
standards that continue to become tighter year by year.

The emission standards are becoming more stringent for motorcycles sold
in Europe as well as the USA.

Liquid cooled engines are easier to "tune" for emission control
due to their more uniform operating temperature.

I expect the Guzzi's are 'de-tuned' to meet American emission standards. My 1989 Mille is
carbureted, but came with the 'US jetting', which didn't help performance at all. Right after buying
it I replaced the jets with the European jets, put different air filters and exhaust on it, and the
thing is much, much improved.

On the Moto Guzzi groups, folks are already talking about putting new chips in their computers for
better performance. Motorcycles aren't emissions tested, at least in Virginia, like cars are. So
improvements made after the fact don't get caught.

Al Gore is going to get you.

We actually do not get inspected at all but all of my stuff is
unaltered and is not throwing codes so I would pass the test.
I doubt any of my old 70's HD "shovels" would pass much of an emission
test tho.


We have an annual safety inspection for motorcycles just as we do for autos.


Same here. A scan of the OBD is required for autos and trucks. Safety
inspection for motorcycles only. (so far).

I was very surprised when I bought and registered a little truck in
Florida that no safety or emissions tests were required.

Massachusetts put a new law on the books that took effect last year.
All inspection stations must have video cameras in the inspection
bay that can be monitored by the RMV whenever an inspection
is taking place. They are checking for any violations of the inspection
process and that all checks are done as required like jacking up the
front end and checking ball joints, etc. You even have to remove any
kind of license plate frame you may have installed to ensure the plate
number is legible when viewed by the camera.

Lots of complaints about this. Nobody can cheat anymore.

New Moto Guzzi
 

Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/4/2018 1:15 PM, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 03 Oct 2018 20:45:34 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 03 Oct 2018 16:27:49 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 3 Oct 2018 07:40:41 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 10/3/2018 7:02 AM, John H. wrote:

https://www.rideapart.com/articles/2...termot-reveal/

Finally a Moto Guzzi with lines and ergonomics I like - except for
that short windscreen. But, maybe
it's got another six inches of adjustment.



I am surprised that air-cooled motorcycles can still meet emission
standards that continue to become tighter year by year.

The emission standards are becoming more stringent for motorcycles sold
in Europe as well as the USA.

Liquid cooled engines are easier to "tune" for emission control
due to their more uniform operating temperature.

I expect the Guzzi's are 'de-tuned' to meet American emission
standards. My 1989 Mille is
carbureted, but came with the 'US
jetting', which didn't help performance at all. Right after buying
it I replaced the jets with the European jets, put different air
filters and exhaust on it, and the
thing is much, much improved.

On the Moto Guzzi groups, folks are already talking about putting new
chips in their computers for
better performance. Motorcycles aren't emissions tested, at least in
Virginia, like cars are. So
improvements made after the fact don't get caught.

Al Gore is going to get you.

We actually do not get inspected at all but all of my stuff is
unaltered and is not throwing codes so I would pass the test.
I doubt any of my old 70's HD "shovels" would pass much of an emission
test tho.


We have an annual safety inspection for motorcycles just as we do for autos.


Same here. A scan of the OBD is required for autos and trucks. Safety
inspection for motorcycles only. (so far).

I was very surprised when I bought and registered a little truck in
Florida that no safety or emissions tests were required.

Massachusetts put a new law on the books that took effect last year.
All inspection stations must have video cameras in the inspection
bay that can be monitored by the RMV whenever an inspection
is taking place. They are checking for any violations of the inspection
process and that all checks are done as required like jacking up the
front end and checking ball joints, etc. You even have to remove any
kind of license plate frame you may have installed to ensure the plate
number is legible when viewed by the camera.

Lots of complaints about this. Nobody can cheat anymore.





We have smog checks here in most counties, no safety inspections. CHP does
do random safety checks .

New Moto Guzzi
 

On 10/4/18 3:11 PM, Bill wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/4/2018 1:15 PM, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 03 Oct 2018 20:45:34 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 03 Oct 2018 16:27:49 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 3 Oct 2018 07:40:41 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 10/3/2018 7:02 AM, John H. wrote:

https://www.rideapart.com/articles/2...termot-reveal/

Finally a Moto Guzzi with lines and ergonomics I like - except for
that short windscreen. But, maybe
it's got another six inches of adjustment.



I am surprised that air-cooled motorcycles can still meet emission
standards that continue to become tighter year by year.

The emission standards are becoming more stringent for motorcycles sold
in Europe as well as the USA.

Liquid cooled engines are easier to "tune" for emission control
due to their more uniform operating temperature.

I expect the Guzzi's are 'de-tuned' to meet American emission
standards. My 1989 Mille is
carbureted, but came with the 'US
jetting', which didn't help performance at all. Right after buying
it I replaced the jets with the European jets, put different air
filters and exhaust on it, and the
thing is much, much improved.

On the Moto Guzzi groups, folks are already talking about putting new
chips in their computers for
better performance. Motorcycles aren't emissions tested, at least in
Virginia, like cars are. So
improvements made after the fact don't get caught.

Al Gore is going to get you.

We actually do not get inspected at all but all of my stuff is
unaltered and is not throwing codes so I would pass the test.
I doubt any of my old 70's HD "shovels" would pass much of an emission
test tho.


We have an annual safety inspection for motorcycles just as we do for autos.


Same here. A scan of the OBD is required for autos and trucks. Safety
inspection for motorcycles only. (so far).

I was very surprised when I bought and registered a little truck in
Florida that no safety or emissions tests were required.

Massachusetts put a new law on the books that took effect last year.
All inspection stations must have video cameras in the inspection
bay that can be monitored by the RMV whenever an inspection
is taking place. They are checking for any violations of the inspection
process and that all checks are done as required like jacking up the
front end and checking ball joints, etc. You even have to remove any
kind of license plate frame you may have installed to ensure the plate
number is legible when viewed by the camera.

Lots of complaints about this. Nobody can cheat anymore.





We have smog checks here in most counties, no safety inspections. CHP does
do random safety checks .


Maryland does emission checks, nothing else. Stupid.

New Moto Guzzi
 

We have had safety inspections for autos motorcycles and trailers for decades. The last half dozen years they changed the requirement to every 2nd year from annual inspections.

New Moto Guzzi
 

On Thu, 04 Oct 2018 13:15:14 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 03 Oct 2018 20:45:34 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 03 Oct 2018 16:27:49 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 3 Oct 2018 07:40:41 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 10/3/2018 7:02 AM, John H. wrote:

https://www.rideapart.com/articles/2...termot-reveal/

Finally a Moto Guzzi with lines and ergonomics I like - except for that short windscreen. But, maybe
it's got another six inches of adjustment.



I am surprised that air-cooled motorcycles can still meet emission
standards that continue to become tighter year by year.

The emission standards are becoming more stringent for motorcycles sold
in Europe as well as the USA.

Liquid cooled engines are easier to "tune" for emission control
due to their more uniform operating temperature.

I expect the Guzzi's are 'de-tuned' to meet American emission standards. My 1989 Mille is
carbureted, but came with the 'US jetting', which didn't help performance at all. Right after buying
it I replaced the jets with the European jets, put different air filters and exhaust on it, and the
thing is much, much improved.

On the Moto Guzzi groups, folks are already talking about putting new chips in their computers for
better performance. Motorcycles aren't emissions tested, at least in Virginia, like cars are. So
improvements made after the fact don't get caught.

Al Gore is going to get you.

We actually do not get inspected at all but all of my stuff is
unaltered and is not throwing codes so I would pass the test.
I doubt any of my old 70's HD "shovels" would pass much of an emission
test tho.

We have an annual safety inspection for motorcycles just as we do for autos.

They don't inspect anything here except they do have emission
inspection on cars in a couple big cities. (just not here). It is
nothing but scanning the ECU for codes. (a federal tax money thing)
They decided inspections were a useless boondoggle years ago and it
was even under a democrat governor (Chiles)

New Moto Guzzi
 

Keyser Soze wrote:
On 10/4/18 3:11 PM, Bill wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/4/2018 1:15 PM, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 03 Oct 2018 20:45:34 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 03 Oct 2018 16:27:49 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 3 Oct 2018 07:40:41 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 10/3/2018 7:02 AM, John H. wrote:

https://www.rideapart.com/articles/2...termot-reveal/

Finally a Moto Guzzi with lines and ergonomics I like - except for
that short windscreen. But, maybe
it's got another six inches of adjustment.



I am surprised that air-cooled motorcycles can still meet emission
standards that continue to become tighter year by year.

The emission standards are becoming more stringent for motorcycles sold
in Europe as well as the USA.

Liquid cooled engines are easier to "tune" for emission control
due to their more uniform operating temperature.

I expect the Guzzi's are 'de-tuned' to meet American emission
standards. My 1989 Mille is
carbureted, but came with the 'US
jetting', which didn't help performance at all. Right after buying
it I replaced the jets with the European jets, put different air
filters and exhaust on it, and the
thing is much, much improved.

On the Moto Guzzi groups, folks are already talking about putting new
chips in their computers for
better performance. Motorcycles aren't emissions tested, at least in
Virginia, like cars are. So
improvements made after the fact don't get caught.

Al Gore is going to get you.

We actually do not get inspected at all but all of my stuff is
unaltered and is not throwing codes so I would pass the test.
I doubt any of my old 70's HD "shovels" would pass much of an emission
test tho.


We have an annual safety inspection for motorcycles just as we do for autos.


Same here. A scan of the OBD is required for autos and trucks. Safety
inspection for motorcycles only. (so far).

I was very surprised when I bought and registered a little truck in
Florida that no safety or emissions tests were required.

Massachusetts put a new law on the books that took effect last year.
All inspection stations must have video cameras in the inspection
bay that can be monitored by the RMV whenever an inspection
is taking place. They are checking for any violations of the inspection
process and that all checks are done as required like jacking up the
front end and checking ball joints, etc. You even have to remove any
kind of license plate frame you may have installed to ensure the plate
number is legible when viewed by the camera.

Lots of complaints about this. Nobody can cheat anymore.





We have smog checks here in most counties, no safety inspections. CHP does
do random safety checks .


Maryland does emission checks, nothing else. Stupid.


What is stupid? Your writing skills are heading negative.

New Moto Guzzi
 

wrote:
On Thu, 04 Oct 2018 13:15:14 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 03 Oct 2018 20:45:34 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 03 Oct 2018 16:27:49 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 3 Oct 2018 07:40:41 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 10/3/2018 7:02 AM, John H. wrote:

https://www.rideapart.com/articles/2...termot-reveal/

Finally a Moto Guzzi with lines and ergonomics I like - except for
that short windscreen. But, maybe
it's got another six inches of adjustment.



I am surprised that air-cooled motorcycles can still meet emission
standards that continue to become tighter year by year.

The emission standards are becoming more stringent for motorcycles sold
in Europe as well as the USA.

Liquid cooled engines are easier to "tune" for emission control
due to their more uniform operating temperature.

I expect the Guzzi's are 'de-tuned' to meet American emission
standards. My 1989 Mille is
carbureted, but came with the 'US
jetting', which didn't help performance at all. Right after buying
it I replaced the jets with the European jets, put different air
filters and exhaust on it, and the
thing is much, much improved.

On the Moto Guzzi groups, folks are already talking about putting new
chips in their computers for
better performance. Motorcycles aren't emissions tested, at least in
Virginia, like cars are. So
improvements made after the fact don't get caught.

Al Gore is going to get you.

We actually do not get inspected at all but all of my stuff is
unaltered and is not throwing codes so I would pass the test.
I doubt any of my old 70's HD "shovels" would pass much of an emission
test tho.

We have an annual safety inspection for motorcycles just as we do for autos.

They don't inspect anything here except they do have emission
inspection on cars in a couple big cities. (just not here). It is
nothing but scanning the ECU for codes. (a federal tax money thing)
They decided inspections were a useless boondoggle years ago and it
was even under a democrat governor (Chiles)


The gas cars get on the dyno here. Costs the same for my diesel pickup
and they give it a visual check and check codes.

New Moto Guzzi
 

On Thu, 4 Oct 2018 15:40:01 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:


Maryland does emission checks, nothing else. Stupid.

Bull****, you can't get tags for a used car without an inspection, a
safety inspection and the last time I was there it was pretty
extensive (pulling brake drums, inspecting rotors even checking for
various fluid leaks)

New Moto Guzzi
 

On 10/4/18 5:29 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 4 Oct 2018 15:40:01 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:


Maryland does emission checks, nothing else. Stupid.

Bull****, you can't get tags for a used car without an inspection, a
safety inspection and the last time I was there it was pretty
extensive (pulling brake drums, inspecting rotors even checking for
various fluid leaks)


My 2004 Toyota got inspected every two years for emissions, nothing else.

New Moto Guzzi
 

On 10/4/2018 5:28 PM, Bill wrote:
wrote:
On Thu, 04 Oct 2018 13:15:14 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 03 Oct 2018 20:45:34 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 03 Oct 2018 16:27:49 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 3 Oct 2018 07:40:41 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 10/3/2018 7:02 AM, John H. wrote:

https://www.rideapart.com/articles/2...termot-reveal/

Finally a Moto Guzzi with lines and ergonomics I like - except for
that short windscreen. But, maybe
it's got another six inches of adjustment.



I am surprised that air-cooled motorcycles can still meet emission
standards that continue to become tighter year by year.

The emission standards are becoming more stringent for motorcycles sold
in Europe as well as the USA.

Liquid cooled engines are easier to "tune" for emission control
due to their more uniform operating temperature.

I expect the Guzzi's are 'de-tuned' to meet American emission
standards. My 1989 Mille is
carbureted, but came with the 'US
jetting', which didn't help performance at all. Right after buying
it I replaced the jets with the European jets, put different air
filters and exhaust on it, and the
thing is much, much improved.

On the Moto Guzzi groups, folks are already talking about putting new
chips in their computers for
better performance. Motorcycles aren't emissions tested, at least in
Virginia, like cars are. So
improvements made after the fact don't get caught.

Al Gore is going to get you.

We actually do not get inspected at all but all of my stuff is
unaltered and is not throwing codes so I would pass the test.
I doubt any of my old 70's HD "shovels" would pass much of an emission
test tho.

We have an annual safety inspection for motorcycles just as we do for autos.

They don't inspect anything here except they do have emission
inspection on cars in a couple big cities. (just not here). It is
nothing but scanning the ECU for codes. (a federal tax money thing)
They decided inspections were a useless boondoggle years ago and it
was even under a democrat governor (Chiles)


The gas cars get on the dyno here. Costs the same for my diesel pickup
and they give it a visual check and check codes.



Up to several years ago they did the dyno test here with the probe
up the tailpipe but did away with it. They rely solely on the computer
scan of the OBD II now for emissions. Older cars (pre-2002) are exempt
from emission testing.

Still do a safety check of everything else though and, with the required
cameras, can lose their
license to do inspections if caught cheating or not doing everything
they are supposed to do.

New Moto Guzzi
 

On Thu, 4 Oct 2018 13:34:00 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 10/4/2018 1:15 PM, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 03 Oct 2018 20:45:34 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 03 Oct 2018 16:27:49 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 3 Oct 2018 07:40:41 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 10/3/2018 7:02 AM, John H. wrote:

https://www.rideapart.com/articles/2...termot-reveal/

Finally a Moto Guzzi with lines and ergonomics I like - except for that short windscreen. But, maybe
it's got another six inches of adjustment.



I am surprised that air-cooled motorcycles can still meet emission
standards that continue to become tighter year by year.

The emission standards are becoming more stringent for motorcycles sold
in Europe as well as the USA.

Liquid cooled engines are easier to "tune" for emission control
due to their more uniform operating temperature.

I expect the Guzzi's are 'de-tuned' to meet American emission standards. My 1989 Mille is
carbureted, but came with the 'US jetting', which didn't help performance at all. Right after buying
it I replaced the jets with the European jets, put different air filters and exhaust on it, and the
thing is much, much improved.

On the Moto Guzzi groups, folks are already talking about putting new chips in their computers for
better performance. Motorcycles aren't emissions tested, at least in Virginia, like cars are. So
improvements made after the fact don't get caught.

Al Gore is going to get you.

We actually do not get inspected at all but all of my stuff is
unaltered and is not throwing codes so I would pass the test.
I doubt any of my old 70's HD "shovels" would pass much of an emission
test tho.


We have an annual safety inspection for motorcycles just as we do for autos.


Same here. A scan of the OBD is required for autos and trucks. Safety
inspection for motorcycles only. (so far).

I was very surprised when I bought and registered a little truck in
Florida that no safety or emissions tests were required.

Massachusetts put a new law on the books that took effect last year.
All inspection stations must have video cameras in the inspection
bay that can be monitored by the RMV whenever an inspection
is taking place. They are checking for any violations of the inspection
process and that all checks are done as required like jacking up the
front end and checking ball joints, etc. You even have to remove any
kind of license plate frame you may have installed to ensure the plate
number is legible when viewed by the camera.

Lots of complaints about this. Nobody can cheat anymore.


The handbrake on my Guzzi is poorly designed. The switch works when it wants to, which is why I
always use the footbrake. I *was* able to sneak my foot onto the footbrake when the inspector
checked the handbrake light. Now there are mirrors everywhere so he doesn't ever go behind the bike.
Now the handbrake has to work every time, which means taking the switch apart about once every two
years.

Oh well.

New Moto Guzzi
 

On Thu, 4 Oct 2018 17:31:25 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 10/4/18 5:29 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 4 Oct 2018 15:40:01 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:


Maryland does emission checks, nothing else. Stupid.

Bull****, you can't get tags for a used car without an inspection, a
safety inspection and the last time I was there it was pretty
extensive (pulling brake drums, inspecting rotors even checking for
various fluid leaks)


My 2004 Toyota got inspected every two years for emissions, nothing else.

I guess it would be the acme of foolishness to think an elitist snob
like you would know anything about used cars.
I had to have my Firebird inspected and it was a brand new car with
about 1000 miles on it but it was titled to the dealer, not sold with
the certificate of origin so the state of Maryland said it was used.

New Moto Guzzi
 

On Thu, 04 Oct 2018 16:56:39 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 04 Oct 2018 13:15:14 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 03 Oct 2018 20:45:34 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 03 Oct 2018 16:27:49 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 3 Oct 2018 07:40:41 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 10/3/2018 7:02 AM, John H. wrote:

https://www.rideapart.com/articles/2...termot-reveal/

Finally a Moto Guzzi with lines and ergonomics I like - except for that short windscreen. But, maybe
it's got another six inches of adjustment.



I am surprised that air-cooled motorcycles can still meet emission
standards that continue to become tighter year by year.

The emission standards are becoming more stringent for motorcycles sold
in Europe as well as the USA.

Liquid cooled engines are easier to "tune" for emission control
due to their more uniform operating temperature.

I expect the Guzzi's are 'de-tuned' to meet American emission standards. My 1989 Mille is
carbureted, but came with the 'US jetting', which didn't help performance at all. Right after buying
it I replaced the jets with the European jets, put different air filters and exhaust on it, and the
thing is much, much improved.

On the Moto Guzzi groups, folks are already talking about putting new chips in their computers for
better performance. Motorcycles aren't emissions tested, at least in Virginia, like cars are. So
improvements made after the fact don't get caught.

Al Gore is going to get you.

We actually do not get inspected at all but all of my stuff is
unaltered and is not throwing codes so I would pass the test.
I doubt any of my old 70's HD "shovels" would pass much of an emission
test tho.

We have an annual safety inspection for motorcycles just as we do for autos.

They don't inspect anything here except they do have emission
inspection on cars in a couple big cities. (just not here). It is
nothing but scanning the ECU for codes. (a federal tax money thing)
They decided inspections were a useless boondoggle years ago and it
was even under a democrat governor (Chiles)

We have an emissions inspection every two years, unless it's a diesel like my truck. They actully
put the pipe up the exhaust and run the engine.