(Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message
Karate also teaches not to be bullied by pencil necks such as
yourself. It goes way back in evolution, and in Karate is called

Wrong. Karate does not teach threatening people who have not threatened
you first in any way, as you have done.

Parnong. It means, simply, to not appear weak, or the prey will be
there in droves to overtake you. Now, would you like to REALLY see who
knows more about Karate discipline? Calmness, by the way, is NOT a

Wrong. Calmness is a factor.

Wrong? Parnong is WRONG??

Please provide references to your above claims. You don't have a clue
what you are talking about. What belt level do you hold? Where have
you trained? What is your schools lineage?

factor. Speed, Power, and Intensity IS. Etiquette is too weak of a
word, it is more like tradition.

Wrong. Karate is full of etiquette, including respecting your opponent.

Pure drivel. Karate is full of TRADITION, as I've stated. Karate is a
self defense martial arts. Do you think that, in a DEFENSE posture,
that someone trained in Karate would succumb to "etiquette"? NO! You
do anything and everything to first, avoid the situation, second, make
it go away. NOTHING is out of the question, including breaking bones,
kicks to the groin, finger strike to the eyes, web hand to the throat,
elbow to the neck, NOTHING.

In all, you are amazingingly childish. Here you are, actually trying
to act like you KNOW Karate, just because I mentioned it! Let's
compa
How much training in Karate have you had?
Your belt rank?
Years of training?
Years of study (reading, etc.)
Which Karate system are you an expert in?

If you knew anything about Karate, you would know it teaches you not to
brag about things like belt rank and years of training.

If you aren't supposed to "brag" about your belt rank, why do you
visibly wear the belt of your ranking?

I'm not asking you to brag. I'm asking you how much training you have?
Belt rank?
The lineage of your school. That wouldn't be bragging. All schools
state their lineage.
Which school do you train at? That wouldn't be bragging, to tell whats
school you train at.

If you WERE trained in Karate, one of the first things you would NOT
do, is act like you are an expert on any subject that somebody
mentions.

Now we KNOW for sure you are obviously NOT trained in Karate, as you
have boasted, by your own standards. Because you try to act like an
expert on any subject that somebody mentions even though it's painfully
obvious you are not.

Steve

Now, let's compare our Karate training, okay? I'm not bragging, I'm
simply telling you that you've not a CLUE what you are talking about.
Kenpo (fist law)

"Bill Cole" wrote in message news:4fOYa.64271$cF.21405@rwcrnsc53...
I don't think basskisser listens well enough to learn anything, I always
heard Patience, self discipline and a positive attitude was a prime
directive in most dojos. From the outbursts exhibited by Basskisser, it
appears he is lacking in both of those characteristics.

Karate (Japanese, ?empty hand?), martial art of unarmed self-defense in
which directed or focused blows of the hands and feet, accompanied by
special breathing and shouts, are dealt from poised positions. More than a
method of combat, karate emphasizes self-discipline, positive attitude, and
high moral purpose.

Karate is not always unarmed. It is, however self-defense. You see,
you and Shelikoff are getting Karate mixed up with sport martial arts,
like Kung Fu. In a strictly self defense posture, you do ANYTHING you
have to do to remedy the situation.

Okay, so.....you think you know about Karate?
Where did you train?
What is your schools lineage?
belt rank?
How long have you trained in Karate?

By the way, I train in KENPO Karate. Kenpo translates to FIST LAW.

"Bill Cole" wrote in message news:4fOYa.64271$cF.21405@rwcrnsc53...
I don't think basskisser listens well enough to learn anything, I always
heard Patience, self discipline and a positive attitude was a prime
directive in most dojos. From the outbursts exhibited by Basskisser, it
appears he is lacking in both of those characteristics.

Karate (Japanese, ?empty hand?), martial art of unarmed self-defense in
which directed or focused blows of the hands and feet, accompanied by
special breathing and shouts, are dealt from poised positions. More than a
method of combat, karate emphasizes self-discipline, positive attitude, and
high moral purpose.


Well, Bill, because you know so much about Kenpo Karate, I would guess
you, or your Siamese twin, Shelikoff, who is also an expert (he
thinks) MUST know who Ed K. Parker is, right? His quote:

"I come to you with Karate (Empty Hands). I have no weapons. But,
shoudl I be forced to defend myself, my principles, or my honor,
should it be a matter of life or death, right or wrong, then here are
my weapons, Karate (Empty Hands)"

So, you see, twins, there is defense against PRINCIPLES or HONOR. But,
as you've both lied like idiots, trying to get others to think you
know about Karate, you wouldn't understand principle or honor.

Well, Bill, because you know so much about Kenpo Karate, I would guess
you, or your Siamese twin, Shelikoff, who is also an expert (he
thinks) MUST know who Ed K. Parker is, right? His quote:

"I come to you with Karate (Empty Hands). I have no weapons. But,
shoudl I be forced to defend myself, my principles, or my honor,
should it be a matter of life or death, right or wrong, then here are
my weapons, Karate (Empty Hands)"

So DimDummy, what does Mr. Parker have to say about growing wacky tabacky in
your home?

LOL, I hate to admit this, but you are so much fun to tease. I feel like a
sadistic kid poking a crazy animal locked inside a cage.

So are you saying that anyone who disagrees with your principles or your
honor, deserves to have his neck broken like a twig?


"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"Bill Cole" wrote in message
news:4fOYa.64271$cF.21405@rwcrnsc53...
I don't think basskisser listens well enough to learn anything, I always
heard Patience, self discipline and a positive attitude was a prime
directive in most dojos. From the outbursts exhibited by Basskisser, it
appears he is lacking in both of those characteristics.

Karate (Japanese, ?empty hand?), martial art of unarmed self-defense in
which directed or focused blows of the hands and feet, accompanied by
special breathing and shouts, are dealt from poised positions. More than
a
method of combat, karate emphasizes self-discipline, positive attitude,
and
high moral purpose.


Well, Bill, because you know so much about Kenpo Karate, I would guess
you, or your Siamese twin, Shelikoff, who is also an expert (he
thinks) MUST know who Ed K. Parker is, right? His quote:

"I come to you with Karate (Empty Hands). I have no weapons. But,
shoudl I be forced to defend myself, my principles, or my honor,
should it be a matter of life or death, right or wrong, then here are
my weapons, Karate (Empty Hands)"

So, you see, twins, there is defense against PRINCIPLES or HONOR. But,
as you've both lied like idiots, trying to get others to think you
know about Karate, you wouldn't understand principle or honor.

On 8 Aug 2003 10:25:36 -0700, (basskisser) wrote:

(Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message
Karate also teaches not to be bullied by pencil necks such as
yourself. It goes way back in evolution, and in Karate is called

Wrong. Karate does not teach threatening people who have not threatened
you first in any way, as you have done.

Parnong. It means, simply, to not appear weak, or the prey will be
there in droves to overtake you. Now, would you like to REALLY see who
knows more about Karate discipline? Calmness, by the way, is NOT a

Wrong. Calmness is a factor.

Wrong? Parnong is WRONG??

Can't you read? I said" Wrong. Calmness is a factor." Not "Wrong,
Parning is WRONG." Sheesh, you obviously need the help of some little
girl to show you how to read. Or is this just another attempt at a
strawman for you to argue against since you have no defense against my
point.

Please provide references to your above claims. You don't have a clue
what you are talking about. What belt level do you hold? Where have
you trained? What is your schools lineage?

You obviously have none, or have not learned your lessons very well.
Actually, from the way you act here, the latter is probably the case.
You can't learn anything since you think you know it all already.

factor. Speed, Power, and Intensity IS. Etiquette is too weak of a
word, it is more like tradition.

Wrong. Karate is full of etiquette, including respecting your opponent.

Pure drivel. Karate is full of TRADITION, as I've stated. Karate is a

There you go again with another strawman. I never said Karate isn't
full of tradition. I said you were wrong when you claim Karate doesn't
teach etiquette or that etiquette is too weak a word. Just because you
can't argue effectively against the points I'm making doesn't mean you
have to make up your own to argue against. But then, arguing with
yourself is probably the only way you've ever won an argument. Or have
you ever won one against yourself?

Which brings me back to the topic at hand. Instead of answering whether
you actually believe NONE of the oil vapor that goes through the PCV
valve or breather back into the intake is burned, not even a single
molecule, you go off on this karate tangent.

Sooooo, just to get back to the subject at hand, please tell us if you
think NONE of the oil vapor that goes out of the crankcase and back into
the intake via the PCV valve gets burned.

Steve

"Joe" wrote in message ...
Well, Bill, because you know so much about Kenpo Karate, I would guess
you, or your Siamese twin, Shelikoff, who is also an expert (he
thinks) MUST know who Ed K. Parker is, right? His quote:

"I come to you with Karate (Empty Hands). I have no weapons. But,
shoudl I be forced to defend myself, my principles, or my honor,
should it be a matter of life or death, right or wrong, then here are
my weapons, Karate (Empty Hands)"

So DimDummy, what does Mr. Parker have to say about growing wacky tabacky in
your home?

JoeTechnician, he says that it is better than trying to convince
others that you are an engineer bwaaaahaaa!!!!!!
Actually, he says NOTHING about it, why do you ask?

(Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message
There you go again with another strawman. I never said Karate isn't
full of tradition. I said you were wrong when you claim Karate doesn't
teach etiquette or that etiquette is too weak a word. Just because you
can't argue effectively against the points I'm making doesn't mean you
have to make up your own to argue against. But then, arguing with
yourself is probably the only way you've ever won an argument. Or have
you ever won one against yourself?

Which brings me back to the topic at hand. Instead of answering whether
you actually believe NONE of the oil vapor that goes through the PCV
valve or breather back into the intake is burned, not even a single
molecule, you go off on this karate tangent.

Sooooo, just to get back to the subject at hand, please tell us if you
think NONE of the oil vapor that goes out of the crankcase and back into
the intake via the PCV valve gets burned.

Steve

Whoa, there. One thing at a time. Please finish answering my reply.

Where did you train?
What belt level are you?
What's the lineage of your school?

I also asked, seeing how Karate is a DEFENSIVE martial art, do you
honestly think that, when confronted, and you are in a defensive
posture, that you should succumb to tradition?
It's funny, I ask these questions, then you snip, just like skipper,
to make it sound like you want, and then you can also answer only the
points that won't make you look like you don't know what you are
talking about. Now, again, where do you get your knowledge of Kenpo
Karate from?

(Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message

Wrong. Calmness is a factor.

factor. Speed, Power, and Intensity IS. Etiquette is too weak of a
word, it is more like tradition.

Wrong. Karate is full of etiquette, including respecting your opponent.


Steve, please provide reference to where you've found this
information. Contrary to your personal belief, you've come up short.
The first thing they teach in Karate, is SPEED, POWER, INTENSITY.
Again, Karate is a defensive martial art. You don't act CALM when you
are being confronted. You are in a defensive posture. You have full
control of your available weapons. You are INTENSELY ready to act. If
and when you have to, you do so with speed, power, and intensity.

Are you saying you have not made physical threats to any of the people
posting in rec.boats?

"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"Bill Cole" wrote in message
. net...
LOL, I hate to admit this, but you are so much fun to tease. I feel
like a
sadistic kid poking a crazy animal locked inside a cage.

So are you saying that anyone who disagrees with your principles or your
honor, deserves to have his neck broken like a twig?

Stupid, stupid man.....Please show where I've said that. You can't, it
isn't there. I don't know how things like that get into you head, but
perhaps professional help is in order. First, you say you feel like a
sadistic kid, then you go off on some tangent that I've NEVER said,
like the little demons in your head told you that!