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On 5/16/18 6:08 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
Special counsel Robert Mueller's team has informed President Donald Trump's attorneys that they have concluded they cannot indict a sitting president, according to Rudy Giuliani, the President's lawyer. Source: CNN Th-th-th-that's all folks! That's been a question since the beginning. If that is the case, Mueller can still issue an evidence-full report that cuts Trump off at the knees. He can also subpoena Trump. And if it is all bad enough, even the GOP House might impeach him. The odds are stacking up against Trump completing a term. |
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On Wed, 16 May 2018 19:48:02 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote: On 5/16/18 6:08 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: Special counsel Robert Mueller's team has informed President Donald Trump's attorneys that they have concluded they cannot indict a sitting president, according to Rudy Giuliani, the President's lawyer. Source: CNN Th-th-th-that's all folks! That's been a question since the beginning. If that is the case, Mueller can still issue an evidence-full report that cuts Trump off at the knees. He can also subpoena Trump. And if it is all bad enough, even the GOP House might impeach him. The odds are stacking up against Trump completing a term. === Do you think you'd like a President Pence any better? |
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On Wed, 16 May 2018 19:48:02 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote: On 5/16/18 6:08 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: Special counsel Robert Mueller's team has informed President Donald Trump's attorneys that they have concluded they cannot indict a sitting president, according to Rudy Giuliani, the President's lawyer. Source: CNN Th-th-th-that's all folks! That's been a question since the beginning. If that is the case, Mueller can still issue an evidence-full report that cuts Trump off at the knees. He can also subpoena Trump. And if it is all bad enough, even the GOP House might impeach him. The odds are stacking up against Trump completing a term. I don't think that is what is going on. I bet Mueller is coming up dry on the russian collusion investigation as it pertains to Trump so he issued this sour grapes statement and he is going to justify his existence by going after unrelated financial crimes against some Trump associates and direct charges against Russians he can never arrest. When you read the Facebook report it really looks like they were just spreading general discord, not necessarily trying to get Trump elected. To that end they succeeded behind their wildest dreams, simply because we have this witch hunt going on and by how much negative opinion there is against a sitting US president. In the mean time Putin is wildly popular in his country, even when polled by people from the outside. Every time he sees Bill Maher, Rachel or anyone on CNN, he has to chuckle. |
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On 5/17/2018 7:34 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/17/18 7:07 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 5/17/2018 12:07 AM, wrote: On Wed, 16 May 2018 19:48:02 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/16/18 6:08 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: Special counsel Robert Mueller's team has informed President Donald Trump's attorneys that they have concluded they cannot indict a sitting president, according to Rudy Giuliani, the President's lawyer. Source: CNN Th-th-th-that's all folks! That's been a question since the beginning. If that is the case, Mueller can still issue an evidence-full report that cuts Trump off at the knees. He can also subpoena Trump. And if it is all bad enough, even the GOP House might impeach him. The odds are stacking up against Trump completing a term. I don't think that is what is going on. I bet Mueller is coming up dry on the russian collusion investigation as it pertains to Trump so he issued this sour grapes statement and he is going to justify his existence by going after unrelated financial crimes against some Trump associates and direct charges against Russians he can never arrest. When you read the Facebook report it really looks like they were just spreading general discord, not necessarily trying to get Trump elected. To that end they succeeded behind their wildest dreams, simply because we have this witch hunt going on and by how much negative opinion there is against a sitting US president. In the mean time Putin is wildly popular in his country, even when polled by people from the outside. Every time he sees Bill Maher, Rachel or anyone on CNN, he has to chuckle. I suspect that Mueller's final report will identify several things that accuse Trump of being guilty of but he will not indict him for any of them leaving it up to Congress to pursue impeachment and then indictment if they so desire.* Won't happen. It will end up being much the same outcome as when Hillary was given a get out of jail free card for her numerous actions, leaving both the left and the right frustrated and disgusted with the federal justice system. Impeachment *is* indictment. If Mueller does go the "report" route, it hopefully will be revealing and devastating enough to finish Trump politically, even if Trump is not impeached by his buddies in the GOP house. If the Republicans lose the house this fall, impeachment will be on the table and there will be reopened investigations that will be for real, instead of the sham investigations the GOP-run committees ran. A POTUS can be impeached but not convicted as in the case of Bill Clinton. In fact, he was acquitted. |
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On Wed, 16 May 2018 19:48:02 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/16/18 6:08 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: Special counsel Robert Mueller's team has informed President Donald Trump's attorneys that they have concluded they cannot indict a sitting president, according to Rudy Giuliani, the President's lawyer. Source: CNN Th-th-th-that's all folks! That's been a question since the beginning. If that is the case, Mueller can still issue an evidence-full report that cuts Trump off at the knees. He can also subpoena Trump. And if it is all bad enough, even the GOP House might impeach him. The odds are stacking up against Trump completing a term. === Do you think you'd like a President Pence any better? He thinks they can trash Pence and any follow ones until they get Pelosi. Now that is scary. Armageddon scary. |
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On 5/17/18 12:09 PM, Bill wrote:
Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 16 May 2018 19:48:02 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/16/18 6:08 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: Special counsel Robert Mueller's team has informed President Donald Trump's attorneys that they have concluded they cannot indict a sitting president, according to Rudy Giuliani, the President's lawyer. Source: CNN Th-th-th-that's all folks! That's been a question since the beginning. If that is the case, Mueller can still issue an evidence-full report that cuts Trump off at the knees. He can also subpoena Trump. And if it is all bad enough, even the GOP House might impeach him. The odds are stacking up against Trump completing a term. === Do you think you'd like a President Pence any better? He thinks they can trash Pence and any follow ones until they get Pelosi. Now that is scary. Armageddon scary. Pence should be trashed...he is a horrible, hate-filled person. Pence is an overzealous charlatan, a nutcase who uses his religion's arbitrary collection of mistranslated books and letters from 2,000 years ago and since to make gays, women, and non-believers miserable. If Pence inherits the job of POTUS because Trump quits, he'll likely serve out the remainder of that first Trump term, but he'll be tied in knots legislatively. One of the things I seriously consider when I vote for POTUS is the quality of the running mate. I didn't like Reagan and wouldn't have voted for him under any circumstances, but I thought his VEEP selection was a more than acceptable backup. I thought and think McCain is a decent guy though I have objections to a lot of his stands, but his choice of Palin was too much for me to stomach. I didn't have much use for Romney's choice, Ryan, but I didn't consider him unsuitable for higher office. Gerry Ford was more than acceptable as the second Nixon VEEP. I've been following presidential politics since the second term of Eisenhower. There hasn't been one serious candidate in the races since then who was more a sewer dweller than Trump. Oh, this morning Michael Avenatti said he was close to completing his vetting of at least two more women who were paid $$$ by Trump to keep their mouths shut about the sex they had with him. More and more, it looks as if Avenatti or Melania will do in Trump. :) |
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On Thu, 17 May 2018 07:34:42 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote: On 5/17/18 7:07 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 5/17/2018 12:07 AM, wrote: On Wed, 16 May 2018 19:48:02 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/16/18 6:08 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: Special counsel Robert Mueller's team has informed President Donald Trump's attorneys that they have concluded they cannot indict a sitting president, according to Rudy Giuliani, the President's lawyer. Source: CNN Th-th-th-that's all folks! That's been a question since the beginning. If that is the case, Mueller can still issue an evidence-full report that cuts Trump off at the knees. He can also subpoena Trump. And if it is all bad enough, even the GOP House might impeach him. The odds are stacking up against Trump completing a term. I don't think that is what is going on. I bet Mueller is coming up dry on the russian collusion investigation as it pertains to Trump so he issued this sour grapes statement and he is going to justify his existence by going after unrelated financial crimes against some Trump associates and direct charges against Russians he can never arrest. When you read the Facebook report it really looks like they were just spreading general discord, not necessarily trying to get Trump elected. To that end they succeeded behind their wildest dreams, simply because we have this witch hunt going on and by how much negative opinion there is against a sitting US president. In the mean time Putin is wildly popular in his country, even when polled by people from the outside. Every time he sees Bill Maher, Rachel or anyone on CNN, he has to chuckle. I suspect that Mueller's final report will identify several things that accuse Trump of being guilty of but he will not indict him for any of them leaving it up to Congress to pursue impeachment and then indictment if they so desire.* Won't happen. It will end up being much the same outcome as when Hillary was given a get out of jail free card for her numerous actions, leaving both the left and the right frustrated and disgusted with the federal justice system. Impeachment *is* indictment. If Mueller does go the "report" route, it hopefully will be revealing and devastating enough to finish Trump politically, even if Trump is not impeached by his buddies in the GOP house. If the Republicans lose the house this fall, impeachment will be on the table and there will be reopened investigations that will be for real, instead of the sham investigations the GOP-run committees ran. You keep assuming they actually identify a crime and a "high" crime at that. So far they have some tax scams, unrelated to Trump and a bunch of Facebook trolls. |
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On 5/17/2018 1:39 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/17/18 12:09 PM, Bill wrote: Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 16 May 2018 19:48:02 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/16/18 6:08 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: Special counsel Robert Mueller's team has informed President Donald Trump's attorneys that they have concluded they cannot indict a sitting president, according to Rudy Giuliani, the President's lawyer. Source: CNN Th-th-th-that's all folks! That's been a question since the beginning. If that is the case, Mueller can still issue an evidence-full report that cuts Trump off at the knees. He can also subpoena Trump. And if it is all bad enough, even the GOP House might impeach him. The odds are stacking up against Trump completing a term. === Do you think you'd like a President Pence any better? He thinks they can trash Pence and any follow ones until they get Pelosi. Now that is scary.* Armageddon scary. Pence should be trashed...he is a horrible, hate-filled person. Pence is an overzealous charlatan, a nutcase who uses his religion's arbitrary collection of mistranslated books and letters from 2,000 years ago and since to make gays, women, and non-believers miserable. If Pence inherits the job of POTUS because Trump quits, he'll likely serve out the remainder of that first Trump term, but he'll be tied in knots legislatively. One of the things I seriously consider when I vote for POTUS is the quality of the running mate. I didn't like Reagan and wouldn't have voted for him under any circumstances, but I thought his VEEP selection was a more than acceptable backup. I thought and think McCain is a decent guy though I have objections to a lot of his stands, but his choice of Palin was too much for me to stomach. I didn't have much use for Romney's choice, Ryan, but I didn't consider him unsuitable for higher office. Gerry Ford was more than acceptable as the second Nixon VEEP. I've been following presidential politics since the second term of Eisenhower. There hasn't been one serious candidate in the races since then who was more a sewer dweller than Trump. Oh, this morning Michael Avenatti said he was close to completing his vetting of at least two more women who were paid $$$ by Trump to keep their mouths shut about the sex they had with him. More and more, it looks as if Avenatti or Melania will do in Trump.* :) How's that? The weirdo Avenatti isn't going to "get" him. Nothing illegal about paying blackmail payments. Have you heard that he has set some sort of record for appearances on CNN? Averages over 2 per day for the past month or so. He's a glory hound with financial problems. Melania? None of our business but she and the Donald have been together since 1998 and married to him since 2005. She doesn't strike me as being a dummy by any means and I doubt she's about to toss a 20 year relationship out the window. She seems to be very dedicated to their kid. |
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On 5/17/2018 2:44 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 17 May 2018 07:34:42 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/17/18 7:07 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 5/17/2018 12:07 AM, wrote: On Wed, 16 May 2018 19:48:02 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/16/18 6:08 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: Special counsel Robert Mueller's team has informed President Donald Trump's attorneys that they have concluded they cannot indict a sitting president, according to Rudy Giuliani, the President's lawyer. Source: CNN Th-th-th-that's all folks! That's been a question since the beginning. If that is the case, Mueller can still issue an evidence-full report that cuts Trump off at the knees. He can also subpoena Trump. And if it is all bad enough, even the GOP House might impeach him. The odds are stacking up against Trump completing a term. I don't think that is what is going on. I bet Mueller is coming up dry on the russian collusion investigation as it pertains to Trump so he issued this sour grapes statement and he is going to justify his existence by going after unrelated financial crimes against some Trump associates and direct charges against Russians he can never arrest. When you read the Facebook report it really looks like they were just spreading general discord, not necessarily trying to get Trump elected. To that end they succeeded behind their wildest dreams, simply because we have this witch hunt going on and by how much negative opinion there is against a sitting US president. In the mean time Putin is wildly popular in his country, even when polled by people from the outside. Every time he sees Bill Maher, Rachel or anyone on CNN, he has to chuckle. I suspect that Mueller's final report will identify several things that accuse Trump of being guilty of but he will not indict him for any of them leaving it up to Congress to pursue impeachment and then indictment if they so desire.* Won't happen. It will end up being much the same outcome as when Hillary was given a get out of jail free card for her numerous actions, leaving both the left and the right frustrated and disgusted with the federal justice system. Impeachment *is* indictment. If Mueller does go the "report" route, it hopefully will be revealing and devastating enough to finish Trump politically, even if Trump is not impeached by his buddies in the GOP house. If the Republicans lose the house this fall, impeachment will be on the table and there will be reopened investigations that will be for real, instead of the sham investigations the GOP-run committees ran. You keep assuming they actually identify a crime and a "high" crime at that. So far they have some tax scams, unrelated to Trump and a bunch of Facebook trolls. They would also have to prove that whatever "crime" was committed was done so with full knowledge and intent. Hard to prove as we learned with Hillary. Remember "You mean just wipe it with a rag?" Geeze. |
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On Thu, 17 May 2018 13:39:50 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote: More and more, it looks as if Avenatti or Melania will do in Trump. :) I am not sure why Melania married Trump but I imagine the motivation is still there. The list of first ladies who looked the other way when their hubby ****ed around is long and fairly inclusive. I doubt Melania is going anywhere, at least while Trump is in the White House. I am also not quite sure how Avenatti has anything that rises to the level of a high crime. Paying a blackmailer over a consensual affair isn't even close. |
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On 5/17/18 2:44 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 17 May 2018 07:34:42 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/17/18 7:07 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 5/17/2018 12:07 AM, wrote: On Wed, 16 May 2018 19:48:02 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/16/18 6:08 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: Special counsel Robert Mueller's team has informed President Donald Trump's attorneys that they have concluded they cannot indict a sitting president, according to Rudy Giuliani, the President's lawyer. Source: CNN Th-th-th-that's all folks! That's been a question since the beginning. If that is the case, Mueller can still issue an evidence-full report that cuts Trump off at the knees. He can also subpoena Trump. And if it is all bad enough, even the GOP House might impeach him. The odds are stacking up against Trump completing a term. I don't think that is what is going on. I bet Mueller is coming up dry on the russian collusion investigation as it pertains to Trump so he issued this sour grapes statement and he is going to justify his existence by going after unrelated financial crimes against some Trump associates and direct charges against Russians he can never arrest. When you read the Facebook report it really looks like they were just spreading general discord, not necessarily trying to get Trump elected. To that end they succeeded behind their wildest dreams, simply because we have this witch hunt going on and by how much negative opinion there is against a sitting US president. In the mean time Putin is wildly popular in his country, even when polled by people from the outside. Every time he sees Bill Maher, Rachel or anyone on CNN, he has to chuckle. I suspect that Mueller's final report will identify several things that accuse Trump of being guilty of but he will not indict him for any of them leaving it up to Congress to pursue impeachment and then indictment if they so desire.* Won't happen. It will end up being much the same outcome as when Hillary was given a get out of jail free card for her numerous actions, leaving both the left and the right frustrated and disgusted with the federal justice system. Impeachment *is* indictment. If Mueller does go the "report" route, it hopefully will be revealing and devastating enough to finish Trump politically, even if Trump is not impeached by his buddies in the GOP house. If the Republicans lose the house this fall, impeachment will be on the table and there will be reopened investigations that will be for real, instead of the sham investigations the GOP-run committees ran. You keep assuming they actually identify a crime and a "high" crime at that. So far they have some tax scams, unrelated to Trump and a bunch of Facebook trolls. The founders did not define "high crimes and misdeanors." Therefore, it is up to the House to define whether they have occurred. So far, you don't know what Mueller has. |
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On 5/17/18 3:02 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 5/17/2018 1:39 PM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/17/18 12:09 PM, Bill wrote: Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 16 May 2018 19:48:02 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/16/18 6:08 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: Special counsel Robert Mueller's team has informed President Donald Trump's attorneys that they have concluded they cannot indict a sitting president, according to Rudy Giuliani, the President's lawyer. Source: CNN Th-th-th-that's all folks! That's been a question since the beginning. If that is the case, Mueller can still issue an evidence-full report that cuts Trump off at the knees. He can also subpoena Trump. And if it is all bad enough, even the GOP House might impeach him. The odds are stacking up against Trump completing a term. === Do you think you'd like a President Pence any better? He thinks they can trash Pence and any follow ones until they get Pelosi. Now that is scary.* Armageddon scary. Pence should be trashed...he is a horrible, hate-filled person. Pence is an overzealous charlatan, a nutcase who uses his religion's arbitrary collection of mistranslated books and letters from 2,000 years ago and since to make gays, women, and non-believers miserable. If Pence inherits the job of POTUS because Trump quits, he'll likely serve out the remainder of that first Trump term, but he'll be tied in knots legislatively. One of the things I seriously consider when I vote for POTUS is the quality of the running mate. I didn't like Reagan and wouldn't have voted for him under any circumstances, but I thought his VEEP selection was a more than acceptable backup. I thought and think McCain is a decent guy though I have objections to a lot of his stands, but his choice of Palin was too much for me to stomach. I didn't have much use for Romney's choice, Ryan, but I didn't consider him unsuitable for higher office. Gerry Ford was more than acceptable as the second Nixon VEEP. I've been following presidential politics since the second term of Eisenhower. There hasn't been one serious candidate in the races since then who was more a sewer dweller than Trump. Oh, this morning Michael Avenatti said he was close to completing his vetting of at least two more women who were paid $$$ by Trump to keep their mouths shut about the sex they had with him. More and more, it looks as if Avenatti or Melania will do in Trump.* :) How's that?* The weirdo Avenatti isn't going to "get" him.* Nothing illegal about paying blackmail payments.* Have you heard that he has set some sort of record for appearances on CNN?* Averages* over 2 per day for the past month or so. He's a glory hound with financial problems. Melania?* None of our business but she and the Donald have been together since 1998 and married to him since 2005.* She doesn't strike me as being a dummy by any means and I doubt she's about to toss a 20 year relationship out the window.* She seems to be very dedicated to their kid. I wonder if Melania was forced to sign a non-disclosure agreement... :) Avanetti is a successful lawyer with a number of huge settlements to his name. What are his financial problems? |
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Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/17/18 2:44 PM, wrote: On Thu, 17 May 2018 07:34:42 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/17/18 7:07 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 5/17/2018 12:07 AM, wrote: On Wed, 16 May 2018 19:48:02 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/16/18 6:08 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: Special counsel Robert Mueller's team has informed President Donald Trump's attorneys that they have concluded they cannot indict a sitting president, according to Rudy Giuliani, the President's lawyer. Source: CNN Th-th-th-that's all folks! That's been a question since the beginning. If that is the case, Mueller can still issue an evidence-full report that cuts Trump off at the knees. He can also subpoena Trump. And if it is all bad enough, even the GOP House might impeach him. The odds are stacking up against Trump completing a term. I don't think that is what is going on. I bet Mueller is coming up dry on the russian collusion investigation as it pertains to Trump so he issued this sour grapes statement and he is going to justify his existence by going after unrelated financial crimes against some Trump associates and direct charges against Russians he can never arrest. When you read the Facebook report it really looks like they were just spreading general discord, not necessarily trying to get Trump elected. To that end they succeeded behind their wildest dreams, simply because we have this witch hunt going on and by how much negative opinion there is against a sitting US president. In the mean time Putin is wildly popular in his country, even when polled by people from the outside. Every time he sees Bill Maher, Rachel or anyone on CNN, he has to chuckle. I suspect that Mueller's final report will identify several things that accuse Trump of being guilty of but he will not indict him for any of them leaving it up to Congress to pursue impeachment and then indictment if they so desire.* Won't happen. It will end up being much the same outcome as when Hillary was given a get out of jail free card for her numerous actions, leaving both the left and the right frustrated and disgusted with the federal justice system. Impeachment *is* indictment. If Mueller does go the "report" route, it hopefully will be revealing and devastating enough to finish Trump politically, even if Trump is not impeached by his buddies in the GOP house. If the Republicans lose the house this fall, impeachment will be on the table and there will be reopened investigations that will be for real, instead of the sham investigations the GOP-run committees ran. You keep assuming they actually identify a crime and a "high" crime at that. So far they have some tax scams, unrelated to Trump and a bunch of Facebook trolls. The founders did not define "high crimes and misdeanors." Therefore, it is up to the House to define whether they have occurred. So far, you don't know what Mueller has. Misdemeanors...sheesh. 🤣 -- Posted with my iPhone 8+. |
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On 5/17/2018 3:54 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/17/18 3:02 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 5/17/2018 1:39 PM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/17/18 12:09 PM, Bill wrote: Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 16 May 2018 19:48:02 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/16/18 6:08 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: Special counsel Robert Mueller's team has informed President Donald Trump's attorneys that they have concluded they cannot indict a sitting president, according to Rudy Giuliani, the President's lawyer. Source: CNN Th-th-th-that's all folks! That's been a question since the beginning. If that is the case, Mueller can still issue an evidence-full report that cuts Trump off at the knees. He can also subpoena Trump. And if it is all bad enough, even the GOP House might impeach him. The odds are stacking up against Trump completing a term. === Do you think you'd like a President Pence any better? He thinks they can trash Pence and any follow ones until they get Pelosi. Now that is scary.* Armageddon scary. Pence should be trashed...he is a horrible, hate-filled person. Pence is an overzealous charlatan, a nutcase who uses his religion's arbitrary collection of mistranslated books and letters from 2,000 years ago and since to make gays, women, and non-believers miserable. If Pence inherits the job of POTUS because Trump quits, he'll likely serve out the remainder of that first Trump term, but he'll be tied in knots legislatively. One of the things I seriously consider when I vote for POTUS is the quality of the running mate. I didn't like Reagan and wouldn't have voted for him under any circumstances, but I thought his VEEP selection was a more than acceptable backup. I thought and think McCain is a decent guy though I have objections to a lot of his stands, but his choice of Palin was too much for me to stomach. I didn't have much use for Romney's choice, Ryan, but I didn't consider him unsuitable for higher office. Gerry Ford was more than acceptable as the second Nixon VEEP. I've been following presidential politics since the second term of Eisenhower. There hasn't been one serious candidate in the races since then who was more a sewer dweller than Trump. Oh, this morning Michael Avenatti said he was close to completing his vetting of at least two more women who were paid $$$ by Trump to keep their mouths shut about the sex they had with him. More and more, it looks as if Avenatti or Melania will do in Trump.* :) How's that?* The weirdo Avenatti isn't going to "get" him.* Nothing illegal about paying blackmail payments.* Have you heard that he has set some sort of record for appearances on CNN?* Averages* over 2 per day for the past month or so. He's a glory hound with financial problems. Melania?* None of our business but she and the Donald have been together since 1998 and married to him since 2005.* She doesn't strike me as being a dummy by any means and I doubt she's about to toss a 20 year relationship out the window.* She seems to be very dedicated to their kid. I wonder if Melania was forced to sign a non-disclosure agreement... :) Avanetti is a successful lawyer with a number of huge settlements to his name. What are his financial problems? He also has lawsuits against him for stiffing partners, companies he bought and other legal problems including bankruptcy. Google 'em up if you are really interested. |
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Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 5/17/2018 3:54 PM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/17/18 3:02 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 5/17/2018 1:39 PM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/17/18 12:09 PM, Bill wrote: Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 16 May 2018 19:48:02 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/16/18 6:08 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: Special counsel Robert Mueller's team has informed President Donald Trump's attorneys that they have concluded they cannot indict a sitting president, according to Rudy Giuliani, the President's lawyer. Source: CNN Th-th-th-that's all folks! That's been a question since the beginning. If that is the case, Mueller can still issue an evidence-full report that cuts Trump off at the knees. He can also subpoena Trump. And if it is all bad enough, even the GOP House might impeach him. The odds are stacking up against Trump completing a term. === Do you think you'd like a President Pence any better? He thinks they can trash Pence and any follow ones until they get Pelosi. Now that is scary.* Armageddon scary. Pence should be trashed...he is a horrible, hate-filled person. Pence is an overzealous charlatan, a nutcase who uses his religion's arbitrary collection of mistranslated books and letters from 2,000 years ago and since to make gays, women, and non-believers miserable. If Pence inherits the job of POTUS because Trump quits, he'll likely serve out the remainder of that first Trump term, but he'll be tied in knots legislatively. One of the things I seriously consider when I vote for POTUS is the quality of the running mate. I didn't like Reagan and wouldn't have voted for him under any circumstances, but I thought his VEEP selection was a more than acceptable backup. I thought and think McCain is a decent guy though I have objections to a lot of his stands, but his choice of Palin was too much for me to stomach. I didn't have much use for Romney's choice, Ryan, but I didn't consider him unsuitable for higher office. Gerry Ford was more than acceptable as the second Nixon VEEP. I've been following presidential politics since the second term of Eisenhower. There hasn't been one serious candidate in the races since then who was more a sewer dweller than Trump. Oh, this morning Michael Avenatti said he was close to completing his vetting of at least two more women who were paid $$$ by Trump to keep their mouths shut about the sex they had with him. More and more, it looks as if Avenatti or Melania will do in Trump.* :) How's that?* The weirdo Avenatti isn't going to "get" him.* Nothing illegal about paying blackmail payments.* Have you heard that he has set some sort of record for appearances on CNN?* Averages* over 2 per day for the past month or so. He's a glory hound with financial problems. Melania?* None of our business but she and the Donald have been together since 1998 and married to him since 2005.* She doesn't strike me as being a dummy by any means and I doubt she's about to toss a 20 year relationship out the window.* She seems to be very dedicated to their kid. I wonder if Melania was forced to sign a non-disclosure agreement... :) Avanetti is a successful lawyer with a number of huge settlements to his name. What are his financial problems? He also has lawsuits against him for stiffing partners, companies he bought and other legal problems including bankruptcy. Google 'em up if you are really interested. Oh...so you are saying he is following in Trump’s footsteps... -- Posted with my iPhone 8+. |
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On Thu, 17 May 2018 16:46:24 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote: Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/17/18 2:44 PM, wrote: On Thu, 17 May 2018 07:34:42 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/17/18 7:07 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 5/17/2018 12:07 AM, wrote: On Wed, 16 May 2018 19:48:02 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/16/18 6:08 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: Special counsel Robert Mueller's team has informed President Donald Trump's attorneys that they have concluded they cannot indict a sitting president, according to Rudy Giuliani, the President's lawyer. Source: CNN Th-th-th-that's all folks! That's been a question since the beginning. If that is the case, Mueller can still issue an evidence-full report that cuts Trump off at the knees. He can also subpoena Trump. And if it is all bad enough, even the GOP House might impeach him. The odds are stacking up against Trump completing a term. I don't think that is what is going on. I bet Mueller is coming up dry on the russian collusion investigation as it pertains to Trump so he issued this sour grapes statement and he is going to justify his existence by going after unrelated financial crimes against some Trump associates and direct charges against Russians he can never arrest. When you read the Facebook report it really looks like they were just spreading general discord, not necessarily trying to get Trump elected. To that end they succeeded behind their wildest dreams, simply because we have this witch hunt going on and by how much negative opinion there is against a sitting US president. In the mean time Putin is wildly popular in his country, even when polled by people from the outside. Every time he sees Bill Maher, Rachel or anyone on CNN, he has to chuckle. I suspect that Mueller's final report will identify several things that accuse Trump of being guilty of but he will not indict him for any of them leaving it up to Congress to pursue impeachment and then indictment if they so desire.* Won't happen. It will end up being much the same outcome as when Hillary was given a get out of jail free card for her numerous actions, leaving both the left and the right frustrated and disgusted with the federal justice system. Impeachment *is* indictment. If Mueller does go the "report" route, it hopefully will be revealing and devastating enough to finish Trump politically, even if Trump is not impeached by his buddies in the GOP house. If the Republicans lose the house this fall, impeachment will be on the table and there will be reopened investigations that will be for real, instead of the sham investigations the GOP-run committees ran. You keep assuming they actually identify a crime and a "high" crime at that. So far they have some tax scams, unrelated to Trump and a bunch of Facebook trolls. The founders did not define "high crimes and misdeanors." Therefore, it is up to the House to define whether they have occurred. So far, you don't know what Mueller has. Misdemeanors...sheesh. ? Yup they got him cold here http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Trump%20caught.jpg |
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On 5/17/2018 5:54 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 17 May 2018 16:46:24 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/17/18 2:44 PM, wrote: On Thu, 17 May 2018 07:34:42 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/17/18 7:07 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 5/17/2018 12:07 AM, wrote: On Wed, 16 May 2018 19:48:02 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/16/18 6:08 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: Special counsel Robert Mueller's team has informed President Donald Trump's attorneys that they have concluded they cannot indict a sitting president, according to Rudy Giuliani, the President's lawyer. Source: CNN Th-th-th-that's all folks! That's been a question since the beginning. If that is the case, Mueller can still issue an evidence-full report that cuts Trump off at the knees. He can also subpoena Trump. And if it is all bad enough, even the GOP House might impeach him. The odds are stacking up against Trump completing a term. I don't think that is what is going on. I bet Mueller is coming up dry on the russian collusion investigation as it pertains to Trump so he issued this sour grapes statement and he is going to justify his existence by going after unrelated financial crimes against some Trump associates and direct charges against Russians he can never arrest. When you read the Facebook report it really looks like they were just spreading general discord, not necessarily trying to get Trump elected. To that end they succeeded behind their wildest dreams, simply because we have this witch hunt going on and by how much negative opinion there is against a sitting US president. In the mean time Putin is wildly popular in his country, even when polled by people from the outside. Every time he sees Bill Maher, Rachel or anyone on CNN, he has to chuckle. I suspect that Mueller's final report will identify several things that accuse Trump of being guilty of but he will not indict him for any of them leaving it up to Congress to pursue impeachment and then indictment if they so desire.* Won't happen. It will end up being much the same outcome as when Hillary was given a get out of jail free card for her numerous actions, leaving both the left and the right frustrated and disgusted with the federal justice system. Impeachment *is* indictment. If Mueller does go the "report" route, it hopefully will be revealing and devastating enough to finish Trump politically, even if Trump is not impeached by his buddies in the GOP house. If the Republicans lose the house this fall, impeachment will be on the table and there will be reopened investigations that will be for real, instead of the sham investigations the GOP-run committees ran. You keep assuming they actually identify a crime and a "high" crime at that. So far they have some tax scams, unrelated to Trump and a bunch of Facebook trolls. The founders did not define "high crimes and misdeanors." Therefore, it is up to the House to define whether they have occurred. So far, you don't know what Mueller has. Misdemeanors...sheesh. ? Yup they got him cold here http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Trump%20caught.jpg So far not far from the truth. Just watching MSNBC for a while. They are discussing all the legal issues regarding indicting a sitting POTUS ad nauseam. All the experts are chiming in with their take on what's going to happen ... will Mueller indict or will he issue a grand jury subpoena or will he just issue a detailed report and let Congress start impeachment hearings. Only problem I found with their dialog and discussion was: Nobody seems to know what crimes Trump has committed. One legal guy was bitching about the number of times Trump plays golf. Others were bitching that Trump is not conducting himself like other presidents have. And then, of course, there's that Stormy thing. |
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On 5/17/18 7:08 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 5/17/2018 5:54 PM, wrote: On Thu, 17 May 2018 16:46:24 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/17/18 2:44 PM, wrote: On Thu, 17 May 2018 07:34:42 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/17/18 7:07 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 5/17/2018 12:07 AM, wrote: On Wed, 16 May 2018 19:48:02 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/16/18 6:08 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: Special counsel Robert Mueller's team has informed President Donald Trump's attorneys that they have concluded they cannot indict a sitting president, according to Rudy Giuliani, the President's lawyer. Source: CNN Th-th-th-that's all folks! That's been a question since the beginning. If that is the case, Mueller can still issue an evidence-full report that cuts Trump off at the knees. He can also subpoena Trump. And if it is all bad enough, even the GOP House might impeach him. The odds are stacking up against Trump completing a term. I don't think that is what is going on. I bet Mueller is coming up dry on the russian collusion investigation as it pertains to Trump so he issued this sour grapes statement and he is going to justify his existence by going after unrelated financial crimes against some Trump associates and direct charges against Russians he can never arrest. When you read the Facebook report it really looks like they were just spreading general discord, not necessarily trying to get Trump elected. To that end they succeeded behind their wildest dreams, simply because we have this witch hunt going on and by how much negative opinion there is against a sitting US president. In the mean time Putin is wildly popular in his country, even when polled by people from the outside. Every time he sees Bill Maher, Rachel or anyone on CNN, he has to chuckle. I suspect that Mueller's final report will identify several things that accuse Trump of being guilty of but he will not indict him for any of them leaving it up to Congress to pursue impeachment and then indictment if they so desire.* Won't happen. It will end up being much the same outcome as when Hillary was given a get out of jail free card for her numerous actions, leaving both the left and the right frustrated and disgusted with the federal justice system. Impeachment *is* indictment. If Mueller does go the "report" route, it hopefully will be revealing and devastating enough to finish Trump politically, even if Trump is not impeached by his buddies in the GOP house. If the Republicans lose the house this fall, impeachment will be on the table and there will be reopened investigations that will be for real, instead of the sham investigations the GOP-run committees ran. You keep assuming they actually identify a crime and a "high" crime at that. So far they have some tax scams, unrelated to Trump and a bunch of Facebook trolls. The founders did not define "high crimes and misdeanors." Therefore, it is up to the House to define whether they have occurred. So far, you don't know what Mueller has. Misdemeanors...sheesh. ? Yup they got him cold here http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Trump%20caught.jpg So far not far from the truth. Just watching MSNBC for a while.* They are discussing all the legal issues regarding indicting a sitting POTUS ad nauseam.* All the experts are chiming in with their take on what's going to happen ... will Mueller indict or will he issue a grand jury subpoena or will he just issue a detailed report and let Congress start impeachment hearings. Only problem I found with their dialog and discussion was: Nobody seems to know what crimes Trump has committed. One legal guy was bitching about the number of times Trump plays golf. Others were bitching that Trump is not conducting himself like other presidents have. And then, of course, there's that Stormy thing. There's been plenty of legal discussion regarding what laws Trump and Family and Company may have broken. Mueller, however, is running a tight ship, so there's not much anyone outside of the inner circle of the investigation knows for sure. What is humorous is that even though you don't know anything about what Mueller is doing, you think you do. "One year of Watergate is enough," said Richard Nixon just before he resigned. |
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On 5/17/2018 8:04 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/17/18 7:08 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 5/17/2018 5:54 PM, wrote: On Thu, 17 May 2018 16:46:24 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/17/18 2:44 PM, wrote: On Thu, 17 May 2018 07:34:42 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/17/18 7:07 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 5/17/2018 12:07 AM, wrote: On Wed, 16 May 2018 19:48:02 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/16/18 6:08 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: Special counsel Robert Mueller's team has informed President Donald Trump's attorneys that they have concluded they cannot indict a sitting president, according to Rudy Giuliani, the President's lawyer. Source: CNN Th-th-th-that's all folks! That's been a question since the beginning. If that is the case, Mueller can still issue an evidence-full report that cuts Trump off at the knees. He can also subpoena Trump. And if it is all bad enough, even the GOP House might impeach him. The odds are stacking up against Trump completing a term. I don't think that is what is going on. I bet Mueller is coming up dry on the russian collusion investigation as it pertains to Trump so he issued this sour grapes statement and he is going to justify his existence by going after unrelated financial crimes against some Trump associates and direct charges against Russians he can never arrest. When you read the Facebook report it really looks like they were just spreading general discord, not necessarily trying to get Trump elected. To that end they succeeded behind their wildest dreams, simply because we have this witch hunt going on and by how much negative opinion there is against a sitting US president. In the mean time Putin is wildly popular in his country, even when polled by people from the outside. Every time he sees Bill Maher, Rachel or anyone on CNN, he has to chuckle. I suspect that Mueller's final report will identify several things that accuse Trump of being guilty of but he will not indict him for any of them leaving it up to Congress to pursue impeachment and then indictment if they so desire.* Won't happen. It will end up being much the same outcome as when Hillary was given a get out of jail free card for her numerous actions, leaving both the left and the right frustrated and disgusted with the federal justice system. Impeachment *is* indictment. If Mueller does go the "report" route, it hopefully will be revealing and devastating enough to finish Trump politically, even if Trump is not impeached by his buddies in the GOP house. If the Republicans lose the house this fall, impeachment will be on the table and there will be reopened investigations that will be for real, instead of the sham investigations the GOP-run committees ran. You keep assuming they actually identify a crime and a "high" crime at that. So far they have some tax scams, unrelated to Trump and a bunch of Facebook trolls. The founders did not define "high crimes and misdeanors." Therefore, it is up to the House to define whether they have occurred. So far, you don't know what Mueller has. Misdemeanors...sheesh. ? Yup they got him cold here http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Trump%20caught.jpg So far not far from the truth. Just watching MSNBC for a while.* They are discussing all the legal issues regarding indicting a sitting POTUS ad nauseam.* All the experts are chiming in with their take on what's going to happen ... will Mueller indict or will he issue a grand jury subpoena or will he just issue a detailed report and let Congress start impeachment hearings. Only problem I found with their dialog and discussion was: Nobody seems to know what crimes Trump has committed. One legal guy was bitching about the number of times Trump plays golf. Others were bitching that Trump is not conducting himself like other presidents have. And then, of course, there's that Stormy thing. There's been plenty of legal discussion regarding what laws Trump and Family and Company may have broken. Mueller, however, is running a tight ship, so there's not much anyone outside of the inner circle of the investigation knows for sure. What is humorous is that even though you don't know anything about what Mueller is doing, you think you do. "One year of Watergate is enough," said Richard Nixon just before he resigned. I don't know what Mueller has on Trump but the liberal media I referenced in my post doesn't know either. Sure, there are many legal discussions, as you say, about what laws Trump and family *may* have broken but the bottom line is that *nobody* knows for sure. I guess you missed the point of my post. It was about the assumption the pundits on MSNBC have that he *is* guilty and all that needs to be seen is what Mueller does about it. |
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On Thu, 17 May 2018 20:04:35 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote: On 5/17/18 7:08 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 5/17/2018 5:54 PM, wrote: On Thu, 17 May 2018 16:46:24 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/17/18 2:44 PM, wrote: On Thu, 17 May 2018 07:34:42 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/17/18 7:07 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 5/17/2018 12:07 AM, wrote: On Wed, 16 May 2018 19:48:02 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/16/18 6:08 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: Special counsel Robert Mueller's team has informed President Donald Trump's attorneys that they have concluded they cannot indict a sitting president, according to Rudy Giuliani, the President's lawyer. Source: CNN Th-th-th-that's all folks! That's been a question since the beginning. If that is the case, Mueller can still issue an evidence-full report that cuts Trump off at the knees. He can also subpoena Trump. And if it is all bad enough, even the GOP House might impeach him. The odds are stacking up against Trump completing a term. I don't think that is what is going on. I bet Mueller is coming up dry on the russian collusion investigation as it pertains to Trump so he issued this sour grapes statement and he is going to justify his existence by going after unrelated financial crimes against some Trump associates and direct charges against Russians he can never arrest. When you read the Facebook report it really looks like they were just spreading general discord, not necessarily trying to get Trump elected. To that end they succeeded behind their wildest dreams, simply because we have this witch hunt going on and by how much negative opinion there is against a sitting US president. In the mean time Putin is wildly popular in his country, even when polled by people from the outside. Every time he sees Bill Maher, Rachel or anyone on CNN, he has to chuckle. I suspect that Mueller's final report will identify several things that accuse Trump of being guilty of but he will not indict him for any of them leaving it up to Congress to pursue impeachment and then indictment if they so desire.* Won't happen. It will end up being much the same outcome as when Hillary was given a get out of jail free card for her numerous actions, leaving both the left and the right frustrated and disgusted with the federal justice system. Impeachment *is* indictment. If Mueller does go the "report" route, it hopefully will be revealing and devastating enough to finish Trump politically, even if Trump is not impeached by his buddies in the GOP house. If the Republicans lose the house this fall, impeachment will be on the table and there will be reopened investigations that will be for real, instead of the sham investigations the GOP-run committees ran. You keep assuming they actually identify a crime and a "high" crime at that. So far they have some tax scams, unrelated to Trump and a bunch of Facebook trolls. The founders did not define "high crimes and misdeanors." Therefore, it is up to the House to define whether they have occurred. So far, you don't know what Mueller has. Misdemeanors...sheesh. ? Yup they got him cold here http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Trump%20caught.jpg So far not far from the truth. Just watching MSNBC for a while.* They are discussing all the legal issues regarding indicting a sitting POTUS ad nauseam.* All the experts are chiming in with their take on what's going to happen ... will Mueller indict or will he issue a grand jury subpoena or will he just issue a detailed report and let Congress start impeachment hearings. Only problem I found with their dialog and discussion was: Nobody seems to know what crimes Trump has committed. One legal guy was bitching about the number of times Trump plays golf. Others were bitching that Trump is not conducting himself like other presidents have. And then, of course, there's that Stormy thing. There's been plenty of legal discussion regarding what laws Trump and Family and Company may have broken. Mueller, however, is running a tight ship, so there's not much anyone outside of the inner circle of the investigation knows for sure. What is humorous is that even though you don't know anything about what Mueller is doing, you think you do. "One year of Watergate is enough," said Richard Nixon just before he resigned. There is a huge difference between this and Watergate. In Watergate the investigation kept getting closer to the president and the coverup. In this witch hunt they keep moving farther away. |
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On 5/18/18 12:23 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 17 May 2018 20:04:35 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/17/18 7:08 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 5/17/2018 5:54 PM, wrote: On Thu, 17 May 2018 16:46:24 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/17/18 2:44 PM, wrote: On Thu, 17 May 2018 07:34:42 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/17/18 7:07 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 5/17/2018 12:07 AM, wrote: On Wed, 16 May 2018 19:48:02 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/16/18 6:08 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: Special counsel Robert Mueller's team has informed President Donald Trump's attorneys that they have concluded they cannot indict a sitting president, according to Rudy Giuliani, the President's lawyer. Source: CNN Th-th-th-that's all folks! That's been a question since the beginning. If that is the case, Mueller can still issue an evidence-full report that cuts Trump off at the knees. He can also subpoena Trump. And if it is all bad enough, even the GOP House might impeach him. The odds are stacking up against Trump completing a term. I don't think that is what is going on. I bet Mueller is coming up dry on the russian collusion investigation as it pertains to Trump so he issued this sour grapes statement and he is going to justify his existence by going after unrelated financial crimes against some Trump associates and direct charges against Russians he can never arrest. When you read the Facebook report it really looks like they were just spreading general discord, not necessarily trying to get Trump elected. To that end they succeeded behind their wildest dreams, simply because we have this witch hunt going on and by how much negative opinion there is against a sitting US president. In the mean time Putin is wildly popular in his country, even when polled by people from the outside. Every time he sees Bill Maher, Rachel or anyone on CNN, he has to chuckle. I suspect that Mueller's final report will identify several things that accuse Trump of being guilty of but he will not indict him for any of them leaving it up to Congress to pursue impeachment and then indictment if they so desire.* Won't happen. It will end up being much the same outcome as when Hillary was given a get out of jail free card for her numerous actions, leaving both the left and the right frustrated and disgusted with the federal justice system. Impeachment *is* indictment. If Mueller does go the "report" route, it hopefully will be revealing and devastating enough to finish Trump politically, even if Trump is not impeached by his buddies in the GOP house. If the Republicans lose the house this fall, impeachment will be on the table and there will be reopened investigations that will be for real, instead of the sham investigations the GOP-run committees ran. You keep assuming they actually identify a crime and a "high" crime at that. So far they have some tax scams, unrelated to Trump and a bunch of Facebook trolls. The founders did not define "high crimes and misdeanors." Therefore, it is up to the House to define whether they have occurred. So far, you don't know what Mueller has. Misdemeanors...sheesh. ? Yup they got him cold here http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Trump%20caught.jpg So far not far from the truth. Just watching MSNBC for a while.* They are discussing all the legal issues regarding indicting a sitting POTUS ad nauseam.* All the experts are chiming in with their take on what's going to happen ... will Mueller indict or will he issue a grand jury subpoena or will he just issue a detailed report and let Congress start impeachment hearings. Only problem I found with their dialog and discussion was: Nobody seems to know what crimes Trump has committed. One legal guy was bitching about the number of times Trump plays golf. Others were bitching that Trump is not conducting himself like other presidents have. And then, of course, there's that Stormy thing. There's been plenty of legal discussion regarding what laws Trump and Family and Company may have broken. Mueller, however, is running a tight ship, so there's not much anyone outside of the inner circle of the investigation knows for sure. What is humorous is that even though you don't know anything about what Mueller is doing, you think you do. "One year of Watergate is enough," said Richard Nixon just before he resigned. There is a huge difference between this and Watergate. In Watergate the investigation kept getting closer to the president and the coverup. In this witch hunt they keep moving farther away. How would you know where the investigation is headed? You have a mole in Mueller's team? |
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Keyser Soze
- show quoted text - How would you know where the investigation is headed? You have a mole in Mueller's team? .......... Ask yourself that same question Harry. You seem to think you have it all figured out. |
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On 5/18/18 9:26 AM, Tim wrote:
Keyser Soze - show quoted text - How would you know where the investigation is headed? You have a mole in Mueller's team? ......... Ask yourself that same question Harry. You seem to think you have it all figured out. No, I don't, and I've said that here many times. I have no idea where Mueller's investigation is headed. I have commented on some of Mueller's options, but never with the "certainty" of the right-wing naysayers here. I'll be more than satisfied if Mueller's findings further cripple the Trump regime. |
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On 5/18/2018 9:30 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/18/18 9:26 AM, Tim wrote: Keyser Soze - show quoted text - How would you know where the investigation is headed? You have a mole in Mueller's team? ......... Ask yourself that same question Harry.** You seem to think you have it all figured out. No, I don't, and I've said that here many times. I have no idea where Mueller's investigation is headed. I have commented on some of Mueller's options, but never with the "certainty" of the right-wing naysayers here. I'll be more than satisfied if Mueller's findings further cripple the Trump regime. It's obvious that you skip over the "I think" parts of my posts. |
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8:30 AMKeyser Soze - show quoted text - No, I don't, and I've said that here many times. I have no idea where Mueller's investigation is headed. I have commented on some of Mueller's options, but never with the "certainty" of the right-wing naysayers here. I'll be more than satisfied if Mueller's findings further cripple the Trump regime. ........ Huh? You must live In your own dream world then. “When trump is indicted”. “When trump is impeached” have been there n your vocabulary way more than once. Obviously you know what’s going on wether it really goes on or not. |
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On Fri, 18 May 2018 06:53:02 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: BTW ... Where's James Comey? He was out hitting all the talk shows and cable news networks promoting his book for a while but seems to have pulled back into his shell as some new discoveries are being reported regarding his involvement in this mess. The searing article Time magazine wrote about Comey's FBI and all of their screw ups may be keeping Comey away from a mike. There are plenty of unanswered questions about how they were doing business. I have never actually believed the FBI mystique anyway, simply because of the way Hoover ran it and it appears they are not much better now. |
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On Fri, 18 May 2018 08:51:02 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote: On 5/18/18 12:23 AM, wrote: On Thu, 17 May 2018 20:04:35 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/17/18 7:08 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 5/17/2018 5:54 PM, wrote: On Thu, 17 May 2018 16:46:24 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/17/18 2:44 PM, wrote: On Thu, 17 May 2018 07:34:42 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/17/18 7:07 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 5/17/2018 12:07 AM, wrote: On Wed, 16 May 2018 19:48:02 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/16/18 6:08 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: Special counsel Robert Mueller's team has informed President Donald Trump's attorneys that they have concluded they cannot indict a sitting president, according to Rudy Giuliani, the President's lawyer. Source: CNN Th-th-th-that's all folks! That's been a question since the beginning. If that is the case, Mueller can still issue an evidence-full report that cuts Trump off at the knees. He can also subpoena Trump. And if it is all bad enough, even the GOP House might impeach him. The odds are stacking up against Trump completing a term. I don't think that is what is going on. I bet Mueller is coming up dry on the russian collusion investigation as it pertains to Trump so he issued this sour grapes statement and he is going to justify his existence by going after unrelated financial crimes against some Trump associates and direct charges against Russians he can never arrest. When you read the Facebook report it really looks like they were just spreading general discord, not necessarily trying to get Trump elected. To that end they succeeded behind their wildest dreams, simply because we have this witch hunt going on and by how much negative opinion there is against a sitting US president. In the mean time Putin is wildly popular in his country, even when polled by people from the outside. Every time he sees Bill Maher, Rachel or anyone on CNN, he has to chuckle. I suspect that Mueller's final report will identify several things that accuse Trump of being guilty of but he will not indict him for any of them leaving it up to Congress to pursue impeachment and then indictment if they so desire.* Won't happen. It will end up being much the same outcome as when Hillary was given a get out of jail free card for her numerous actions, leaving both the left and the right frustrated and disgusted with the federal justice system. Impeachment *is* indictment. If Mueller does go the "report" route, it hopefully will be revealing and devastating enough to finish Trump politically, even if Trump is not impeached by his buddies in the GOP house. If the Republicans lose the house this fall, impeachment will be on the table and there will be reopened investigations that will be for real, instead of the sham investigations the GOP-run committees ran. You keep assuming they actually identify a crime and a "high" crime at that. So far they have some tax scams, unrelated to Trump and a bunch of Facebook trolls. The founders did not define "high crimes and misdeanors." Therefore, it is up to the House to define whether they have occurred. So far, you don't know what Mueller has. Misdemeanors...sheesh. ? Yup they got him cold here http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Trump%20caught.jpg So far not far from the truth. Just watching MSNBC for a while.* They are discussing all the legal issues regarding indicting a sitting POTUS ad nauseam.* All the experts are chiming in with their take on what's going to happen ... will Mueller indict or will he issue a grand jury subpoena or will he just issue a detailed report and let Congress start impeachment hearings. Only problem I found with their dialog and discussion was: Nobody seems to know what crimes Trump has committed. One legal guy was bitching about the number of times Trump plays golf. Others were bitching that Trump is not conducting himself like other presidents have. And then, of course, there's that Stormy thing. There's been plenty of legal discussion regarding what laws Trump and Family and Company may have broken. Mueller, however, is running a tight ship, so there's not much anyone outside of the inner circle of the investigation knows for sure. What is humorous is that even though you don't know anything about what Mueller is doing, you think you do. "One year of Watergate is enough," said Richard Nixon just before he resigned. There is a huge difference between this and Watergate. In Watergate the investigation kept getting closer to the president and the coverup. In this witch hunt they keep moving farther away. How would you know where the investigation is headed? You have a mole in Mueller's team? Do you or is this all just speculation you hear from Rachel and Larry? |
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On Fri, 18 May 2018 09:30:21 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote: On 5/18/18 9:26 AM, Tim wrote: Keyser Soze - show quoted text - How would you know where the investigation is headed? You have a mole in Mueller's team? ......... Ask yourself that same question Harry. You seem to think you have it all figured out. No, I don't, and I've said that here many times. I have no idea where Mueller's investigation is headed. I have commented on some of Mueller's options, but never with the "certainty" of the right-wing naysayers here. I'll be more than satisfied if Mueller's findings further cripple the Trump regime. I have been saying for well over a year, if Trump has to resign, it will be over conflict of interest problems, not anything involving Russians meddling in the election. |
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