Bill
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/9/18 10:35 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 9 Apr 2018 05:37:44 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

| Mao was no fan of the
ancient religious beliefs in his country that were used to control the
peasants.

So Mao wasn't religious either. Maybe that's why all these guys
slaughtered millions. because of their paranoid atheist beliefs.

===

Or lack of any other moral compass.


They were imitating the Crusaders?



Both sides were bad. Hell, Mohammedans were knocking on Paris when the
Crusades got started.

..........


Seems like not much has changed lately...

On Monday, 9 April 2018 11:58:21 UTC-3, justan wrote:
True North Wrote in message:
John H

- show quoted text -

"I wonder where your main supporter, Donnee, has been during this whole discussion? Not once did I
see his famous, "I agree wholeheartedly with this post!"

Maybe he actually believes in the 'guy in the sky' so won't agree with you but doesn't have the
balls to disagree."



Hey, JohnnyMop. Why are y'all trying to drag me into your squabbles with Harry? Tired of him bitch slapping you from pillar to post?
You won't fare any better with me.


Ahhh, so you are an athiest now too. That's the thanks the nuns
get for trying to educate you and instill in you the values that
make youth into productive and useful members of society.
Instead, you drank the union kool-ade and became a janitor with
the usual union protection.
--
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Justine...y'all are a silly lass. Are you trying to emulate your exaulted ruler, The John?
I never had a "Nun" teach me anything...or even try for that matter. The girls had Sisters of Charity teaching them and the boys had 'Catholic lay teachers'.
Got it?

On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 3:02:47 PM UTC-4, True North wrote:
On Monday, 9 April 2018 11:58:21 UTC-3, justan wrote:
True North Wrote in message:
John H

- show quoted text -

"I wonder where your main supporter, Donnee, has been during this whole discussion? Not once did I
see his famous, "I agree wholeheartedly with this post!"

Maybe he actually believes in the 'guy in the sky' so won't agree with you but doesn't have the
balls to disagree."



Hey, JohnnyMop. Why are y'all trying to drag me into your squabbles with Harry? Tired of him bitch slapping you from pillar to post?
You won't fare any better with me.


Ahhh, so you are an athiest now too. That's the thanks the nuns
get for trying to educate you and instill in you the values that
make youth into productive and useful members of society.
Instead, you drank the union kool-ade and became a janitor with
the usual union protection.
--
x


----Android NewsGroup Reader----
http://usenet.sinaapp.com/

Justine...y'all are a silly lass. Are you trying to emulate your exaulted ruler, The John?
I never had a "Nun" teach me anything...or even try for that matter. The girls had Sisters of Charity teaching them and the boys had 'Catholic lay teachers'.
Got it?

So you were taught by heathens. Got it.

On 4/9/2018 2:46 PM, Bill wrote:
Bill wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/9/18 10:35 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 9 Apr 2018 05:37:44 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

| Mao was no fan of the
ancient religious beliefs in his country that were used to control the
peasants.

So Mao wasn't religious either. Maybe that's why all these guys
slaughtered millions. because of their paranoid atheist beliefs.

===

Or lack of any other moral compass.


They were imitating the Crusaders?



Both sides were bad. Hell, Mohammedans were knocking on Paris when the
Crusades got started.



Richard, I thought this was the Crusader you were going to mention.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=C3hHQvkUhJo




Ha! Him too!

JackOff erupts.....

Â*Justine...y'all are a silly lass. Â*Are you trying to emulate your exaulted ruler, The John?Â*
I never had a "Nun" teach me anything...or even try for that matter. Â*The girls had Sisters of Charity teaching them and the boys had 'Catholic lay teachers'. Â*Â*
Got it?Â*

"So you were taught by heathens. Got it."



SAY WHAT?
Maybe lay teachers are heathens where y'all were hatched but here they were usually Catholic teachers wo also taught Catechism first period and were responsible for marching us down to the church for confession every first Friday of the month.

Bill wrote:
Bill wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/9/18 10:35 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 9 Apr 2018 05:37:44 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

| Mao was no fan of the
ancient religious beliefs in his country that were used to control the
peasants.

So Mao wasn't religious either. Maybe that's why all these guys
slaughtered millions. because of their paranoid atheist beliefs.

===

Or lack of any other moral compass.


They were imitating the Crusaders?



Both sides were bad. Hell, Mohammedans were knocking on Paris when the
Crusades got started.



Richard, I thought this was the Crusader you were going to mention.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=C3hHQvkUhJo




As to government making laws against religion. Reason we have problems
with the different versions of marriage these days is because until the
Edmunds Act in 1862 or so, Government was not involved in marriage. That
act was passed because some people with government connections did not like
the Mormons.

Keyser Soze wrote:
Bill wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/8/18 11:36 PM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/8/18 2:28 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 8 Apr 2018 14:01:25 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:


I'm agnostic, but I don't mind. Someday, we non-believers are going to
get together so we can emulate you christians and kill christians,
moslems, jews, buddhists, sikhs, et cetera, because their religion is
different from ours. Oh, wait...we don't have a religion.

Of course you do. Atheism has become as strong a force in your life as
any other person's religious beliefs and you force your dogma on
everyone around you by simply being offended and using the power of
government to quell things you find offensive. It is a unique form of
offense too because other offensive things don't seem to bother you at
all.


Atheism is not a force at all. I don't give a **** what the religious do
in their churches or homes, so long as no one gets hurt. When the
religious try to push their superstitions on society or the government,
then that is where they exceed what they should be allowed to do.


Which superstition? One like do unto others as you would want to be done
to you? Thou shelt not steal? Thou shall pay back their debts?


Heh heh heh. Do you know what superstition is, Bilious? Your post makes
any rational observer think..."No, he doesn't."


You are the one saying religious ideas are superstition. So which of
those “superstition “ do you support or deny?



When my kids were little, I used to try to convince them the tooth fairy
was real, but even as little kids, they didn’t believe in fairies.


Should have visited San Francisco.

Keyser Soze wrote:
Bill wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/9/18 1:02 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 8 Apr 2018 21:53:00 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 4/8/18 8:11 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/8/2018 7:57 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
wrote:
On Sun, 8 Apr 2018 18:04:36 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 4/8/18 2:28 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 8 Apr 2018 14:01:25 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:


I'm agnostic, but I don't mind. Someday, we non-believers are
going to
get together so we can emulate you christians and kill christians,
moslems, jews, buddhists, sikhs, et cetera, because their religion is
different from ours. Oh, wait...we don't have a religion.

Of course you do. Atheism has become as strong a force in your life as
any other person's religious beliefs and you force your dogma on
everyone around you by simply being offended and using the power of
government to quell things you find offensive. It is a unique form of
offense too because other offensive things don't seem to bother you at
all.


Atheism is not a force at all. I don't give a **** what the
religious do
in their churches or homes, so long as no one gets hurt. When the
religious try to push their superstitions on society or the government,
then that is where they exceed what they should be allowed to do.

You push your atheism on everyone, more aggressively than the worst
evangelist.
Just the fact that you denigrate people's deeply held beliefs
incessantly, demonstrates you are not a live and let live person. This
is a crusade with you and you are trying to rid the world of religion.
That IS a religion in and of itself or certainly a belief system.


Too funny. I have never asked or demanded that anyone believe as I do on
this subject. All I would like is for the religious to stop forcing their
beliefs onto society on government.



Bull****.



Have I ever knocked on your door and asked you if you found
non-religion? (And for Fretwell, I don't mean literally).

People knock on my door, bombard my TV shows or send me mail asking me
about all sorts of things I don't believe in but that is their right.
It is my right to ignore them.
Would you deny the right of people to talk about their religion but
allow them to tell me about why I should accept their other strange
deviancies.



I don't care if people "talk" about their religion so long as they don't
try to force their religious beliefs on me or my country or in legislation.


Then why should we allow those with beliefs not supported by those s to
have a public bully pulpit on government property. Teaching homosexuality
is normal in a public school. Where is the proof that is normal? Climate
change is all man caused. Supported by tax dollars. Seems as if the
government is prevented from supporting a state religion as well as not
preventing the exercise of religion. You want to prevent the talk.




Sexual orientation is not a religion, and neither is climate change.
Crikey.






They are close to religion these days. And the constitution stated the
government would not get involved in the practice of religion. So the
religious have just as much right to influence law as a union does. Maybe
a better right than a government union.

On Mon, 9 Apr 2018 13:35:08 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 4/9/2018 11:19 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/9/18 11:13 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 9 Apr 2018 10:51:20 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 4/9/18 8:37 AM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 7:03:57 AM UTC-5, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/9/18 7:42 AM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 6:29:31 AM UTC-5, John H wrote:
On Sun, 8 Apr 2018 19:12:36 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/8/2018 6:43 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/8/18 6:35 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/8/2018 6:04 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/8/18 2:28 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 8 Apr 2018 14:01:25 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:


I'm agnostic, but I don't mind. Someday, we non-believers
are going to
get together so we can emulate you christians and kill
christians,
moslems, jews, buddhists, sikhs, et cetera, because their
religion is
different from ours. Oh, wait...we don't have a religion.

Of course you do. Atheism has become as strong a force in
your life as
any other person's religious beliefs and you force your
dogma on
everyone around you by simply being offended and using the
power of
government to quell things you find offensive. It is a
unique form of
offense too because other offensive things don't seem to
bother you at
all.


Atheism is not a force at all. I don't give a **** what the
religious
do in their churches or homes, so long as no one gets hurt.
When the
religious try to push their superstitions on society or the
government, then that is where they exceed what they should be
allowed to do.


You're full of explanations and excuses but the bottom line is:

You're an atheist.




Do you think that is some sort of insult?

No.Â* Just the facts jack.




No worries...atheists, unlike christians, don’t murder people
who have
different or no religious beliefs.

What religion was Hitler famous for?

And Stalin. And Mao.



In Mein Kampf and in speeches, Hitler said he was a christian. In his
later years, he denounced religious beliefs.

OK, so was he, and did he act like a 'Christian' or not?Â* BTW, he,
dabbled in the occult a lot.


Stalin was raised in a religious household.

Ha. "raised" in a religious household, but made religion a crime
against thee state. So, was he a christian or not?

| Mao was no fan of the
ancient religious beliefs in his country that were used to control the
peasants.

So Mao wasn't religious either. Maybe that's why all these guys
slaughtered millions. because of their paranoid atheist beliefs.


Why did christians throughout history engage in their slaughters?
Paranoid religious beliefs?


===

It's important to put some of that in historical context.Â* My
recollection, possibly faulty, is that islamic regions were
threatening to take over all of Europe and almost succeeded.Â* That
makes it less of a religious dispute and more of a territorial culture
clash.Â* Feel free to set the record straight.

---


Most of what we commonly refer to as the Crusades involved Europeans
campaigning in the eastern Med area to take back the Holy Land from the
Muslims.



What century do you live in? It's 2018 if you haven't noticed.


Absolutely this is the 21st century. The last european invasion of the
middle east to take back the holy land from the muslims was just over
70 years ago in the 20th century.

On Mon, 9 Apr 2018 18:46:03 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Bill wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/9/18 10:35 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 9 Apr 2018 05:37:44 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

| Mao was no fan of the
ancient religious beliefs in his country that were used to control the
peasants.

So Mao wasn't religious either. Maybe that's why all these guys
slaughtered millions. because of their paranoid atheist beliefs.

===

Or lack of any other moral compass.


They were imitating the Crusaders?



Both sides were bad. Hell, Mohammedans were knocking on Paris when the
Crusades got started.



Richard, I thought this was the Crusader you were going to mention.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=C3hHQvkUhJo


That was the one I was thinking about