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Yo, John ...
On Sun, 25 Mar 2018 23:46:40 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:
wrote: On Sun, 25 Mar 2018 13:56:53 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 3/25/2018 1:43 PM, wrote: On Sun, 25 Mar 2018 10:02:58 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 3/25/2018 9:34 AM, John H. wrote: On Sat, 24 Mar 2018 23:10:54 -0400, wrote: On Sat, 24 Mar 2018 18:18:03 -0400, John H. wrote: On Sat, 24 Mar 2018 17:25:11 -0400, wrote: On Sat, 24 Mar 2018 14:31:07 -0400, John H. wrote: Can't get on a military installation any more without that, unless you're willing to go through a bunch of crap. Times certainly changed. I used to just get waived through the gate at Andrews and I shot skeet there so much that nobody ever asked who I was. We used to give the "puller" a buck a round but I think the range was free. (Bring your own ammo). I think you could get it at the PX but I would have needed an ID there. Things have changed since 9/11. I don't know of any 'open posts' anymore. Ft. Belvoir didn't even man the gates, except for the main gate. Now they're all manned and the ID card is scanned. Many days they'll have a 100% ID check and everyone's ID gets checked. There must be at least one military ID in the car. The last military base we were on is in California. http://gfretwell.com/ftp/california/Liggett%20sign.jpg http://gfretwell.com/ftp/california/M551%20Tank.jpg http://gfretwell.com/ftp/california/Target%20Tank.jpg They did an ID check and ran us on the computer, took about 5 minutes. This is up a mountain on a dirt road from Big Sur off the Pac Coast highway. It is a pretty cool drive but at the top of the hill you hit the back gate of an army base. They do let you drive through tho. http://gfretwell.com/ftp/california/...the%20hill.jpg When working with the CA National Guard at Camp Roberts, just north of Paso Robles, we'd go to Ft. HL to get cigs, etc, at the PX. Back then cigs were a good deal at the PX or Commissary. When my wife and I were in Italy cigarettes were $2.50 a carton at the base exchange however we were rationed to a limited number a month. On the ship they were $1.50 a carton once we were underway. Neither of us smoked back then and I'd buy all the cartons of Marlboro's allowed per month and store them at our apartment. Once a month an Italian "salesman" would visit all the Americans' apartments, carrying a huge suitcase and buy all the cartons for $5.00/carton to be sold on the Italian black market. We made enough profit to pay for our apartment every month. Now I can admit it. :-) Way up into the 70s cigarettes were only $3-4 a carton in North Carolina. I used to always load up in Kenley on my way through for my smoker friends in Florida and Maryland. By the 80s they were getting up in the $4.50 range but still a good deal. In the ship, at sea, they were $1.50 I think the tobacco companies gave them away at below cost to the military to drum up future sales. I was one of the few who got out without the habit. I can smoke a cigarette to be social and not want another one. I finally stopped that when I figured out you do not need to be smoking to be in the smoking pit with your buddies. I preferred smoking cigars then and I kept 1 or 2 in the cleaning kit holder in the stock of my M1 in boot camp. It is hard to carry a cigar in your pocket without crushing it and that was perfect. Nobody said a thing about it. I was smoking those grocery store cigars at the time. Then I was in a bar in New York and some people started making fun of me, telling me that was not a cigar. I found the premium cigars and never looked back but the price limited my consumption. Now I seldom even partake in one of those and I hold out for something special. Heh. One of my recollections of bootcamp was a day when the company commander came into the barracks and asked how many people smoked. (Nobody had been allowed to have a cigarette up until then). Almost the entire company raised their hand and the CC told them to go to the barracks lounge and light 'em up. The rest of us who didn't raise their hand were sent outside in the freezing cold Great Lakes winter to shovel snow. That same philosophy is true today. If you smoke you can go outside and sit at the picnic table and smoke. Everyone else is still at their desk. This is the road I figured you drove. John and tim would like it. http://www.dangerousroads.org/north-...sson-road.html I guess a link would be nice: http://www.dangerousroads.org/europe...vio-italy.html |
Yo, John ...
John H
On Sun, 25 Mar 2018 23:46:40 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: - show quoted text - I guess a link would be nice: http://www.dangerousroads.org/europe...vio-italy.html ..... I think Guzzi names that one sport tourer the”Stelvio” for that very reason. Looks like a fun, though tedious ride to the top or the bottom... |
Yo, John ...
On Mon, 26 Mar 2018 14:45:12 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
John H On Sun, 25 Mar 2018 23:46:40 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: - show quoted text - I guess a link would be nice: http://www.dangerousroads.org/europe...vio-italy.html .... I think Guzzi names that one sport tourer theStelvio for that very reason. Looks like a fun, though tedious ride to the top or the bottom... Yup, that's where the name comes from. I believe it's 26 kilometers. It took us 4 1/2 hours with rain and snow almost the whole way. |
Yo, John ...
On Mon, 26 Mar 2018 14:45:12 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote: John H On Sun, 25 Mar 2018 23:46:40 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: - show quoted text - I guess a link would be nice: http://www.dangerousroads.org/europe...vio-italy.html .... I think Guzzi names that one sport tourer the”Stelvio” for that very reason. Looks like a fun, though tedious ride to the top or the bottom... I was pretty aggressive when I was riding but I decided I had pressed my luck too far and bought a dresser down here. In spite of still having white knuckle danger, it was boring knowing the biggest danger was getting T boned by an old lady in a coupe deville. |
Yo, John ...
10:21 On Mon, 26 Mar 2018 14:45:12 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: - hide quoted text - John H On Sun, 25 Mar 2018 23:46:40 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: - show quoted text - I guess a link would be nice: http://www.dangerousroads.org/europe...vio-italy.html .... I think Guzzi names that one sport tourer the”Stelvio” for that very reason. Looks like a fun, though tedious ride to the top or the bottom... I was pretty aggressive when I was riding but I decided I had pressed my luck too far and bought a dresser down here. In spite of still having white knuckle danger, it was boring knowing the biggest danger was getting T boned by an old lady in a coupe deville. —— Mamma blue-hair pulled right out in front of my brother on his 750 Honda. He laid it down and skidded right into her door and had both feet planted on his seat. Good he wasn’t pinned. He said she never looked to the left even once. Of course she was truthful when she said she didn’t see him... |
Yo, John ...
On Mon, 26 Mar 2018 21:05:02 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote: 10:21 On Mon, 26 Mar 2018 14:45:12 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: - hide quoted text - John H On Sun, 25 Mar 2018 23:46:40 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: - show quoted text - I guess a link would be nice: http://www.dangerousroads.org/europe...vio-italy.html .... I think Guzzi names that one sport tourer the”Stelvio” for that very reason. Looks like a fun, though tedious ride to the top or the bottom... I was pretty aggressive when I was riding but I decided I had pressed my luck too far and bought a dresser down here. In spite of still having white knuckle danger, it was boring knowing the biggest danger was getting T boned by an old lady in a coupe deville. —— Mamma blue-hair pulled right out in front of my brother on his 750 Honda. He laid it down and skidded right into her door and had both feet planted on his seat. Good he wasn’t pinned. He said she never looked to the left even once. Of course she was truthful when she said she didn’t see him... I rode around DC for years and never worried that much about it but one trip downtown here and I was losing the urge to ride. The other problem is I am not sure where I would want to ride to here. We just don't have that many roads and they are all long and straight. |
Yo, John ...
On Mon, 26 Mar 2018 21:05:02 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
10:21 On Mon, 26 Mar 2018 14:45:12 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: - hide quoted text - John H On Sun, 25 Mar 2018 23:46:40 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: - show quoted text - I guess a link would be nice: http://www.dangerousroads.org/europe...vio-italy.html .... I think Guzzi names that one sport tourer theStelvio for that very reason. Looks like a fun, though tedious ride to the top or the bottom... I was pretty aggressive when I was riding but I decided I had pressed my luck too far and bought a dresser down here. In spite of still having white knuckle danger, it was boring knowing the biggest danger was getting T boned by an old lady in a coupe deville. Mamma blue-hair pulled right out in front of my brother on his 750 Honda. He laid it down and skidded right into her door and had both feet planted on his seat. Good he wasnt pinned. He said she never looked to the left even once. Of course she was truthful when she said she didnt see him... I hope someone told him to use his brakes next time. The bike stops quicker that way. |
Yo, John ...
John H
- show quoted text - I hope someone told him to use his brakes next time. The bike stops quicker that way ..... He did. Combination of too short of a distance and damp road surfaces. Like sliding into home plate. |
Yo, John ...
On 3/27/2018 9:45 AM, Tim wrote:
John H - show quoted text - I hope someone told him to use his brakes next time. The bike stops quicker that way .... He did. Combination of too short of a distance and damp road surfaces. Like sliding into home plate. Happened to me once in Puerto Rico. Was riding up a narrow road on a Honda 350 in the rain forest in the middle of the island, came around a corner and there was a car in front of me *backing* up. No time or distance to stop, cliffs on one side, mountain on the other. Laid the bike down on it's left side and slid sideways under the car's rear bumper before he noticed and stopped. |
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