Speaking of engineering ...
 

I recently watched "Azorian" via Amazon Prime streaming. It's about
the CIA's program to raise the Soviet sub K-129 that sank off of Iceland
in 1974.

Talk about some serious engineering! Howard Hughes was recruited to
provide a cover story by "financing" the design and building
of the Huges Glomar Explorer as a sea bed mining ship. In reality the
CIA financed it all of course.

The bottom of the ship had two huge doors that slid open
allowing the deployment of a giant lift device with claws that would
submerge, held in place by pipes, to a depth of 16,500 feet where the
sub lay on the bottom.

The technical challenges of designing the systems involved were mind
boggling. Makes the challenge of going to the moon look like duck soup.

Great documentary for those with this kind of interest.

Speaking of engineering ...
 

On Fri, 16 Mar 2018 17:21:27 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


I recently watched "Azorian" via Amazon Prime streaming. It's about
the CIA's program to raise the Soviet sub K-129 that sank off of Iceland
in 1974.

Talk about some serious engineering! Howard Hughes was recruited to
provide a cover story by "financing" the design and building
of the Huges Glomar Explorer as a sea bed mining ship. In reality the
CIA financed it all of course.

The bottom of the ship had two huge doors that slid open
allowing the deployment of a giant lift device with claws that would
submerge, held in place by pipes, to a depth of 16,500 feet where the
sub lay on the bottom.

The technical challenges of designing the systems involved were mind
boggling. Makes the challenge of going to the moon look like duck soup.

Great documentary for those with this kind of interest.

Thanks
I have burned through all of the Frontlines I care about and the
American Experiences. I was getting ready to start Ken Burns America
but I will check that one out first. I have seen a few shows and read
a lot about the Glomar Explorer. I am still curious how much of that
sub we really got. I really question the official story. (but I bet
that is not shocking to anyone)

Speaking of engineering ...
 

Mr. Luddite wrote:

I recently watched "Azorian" via Amazon Prime streaming. It's about
the CIA's program to raise the Soviet sub K-129 that sank off of Iceland
in 1974.

Talk about some serious engineering! Howard Hughes was recruited to
provide a cover story by "financing" the design and building
of the Huges Glomar Explorer as a sea bed mining ship. In reality the
CIA financed it all of course.

The bottom of the ship had two huge doors that slid open
allowing the deployment of a giant lift device with claws that would
submerge, held in place by pipes, to a depth of 16,500 feet where the
sub lay on the bottom.

The technical challenges of designing the systems involved were mind
boggling. Makes the challenge of going to the moon look like duck soup.

Great documentary for those with this kind of interest.



The Glomar was anchored with the mothball fleet in the Sacramento Delta for
years. Fished next to it a lot. Even from the outside was an
interesting ship. Especially when you read about the design. The tower
for the pipe were still on the ship. Laid down in storage.

Speaking of engineering ...
 

On 3/17/2018 12:18 AM, Bill wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:

I recently watched "Azorian" via Amazon Prime streaming. It's about
the CIA's program to raise the Soviet sub K-129 that sank off of Iceland
in 1974.

Talk about some serious engineering! Howard Hughes was recruited to
provide a cover story by "financing" the design and building
of the Huges Glomar Explorer as a sea bed mining ship. In reality the
CIA financed it all of course.

The bottom of the ship had two huge doors that slid open
allowing the deployment of a giant lift device with claws that would
submerge, held in place by pipes, to a depth of 16,500 feet where the
sub lay on the bottom.

The technical challenges of designing the systems involved were mind
boggling. Makes the challenge of going to the moon look like duck soup.

Great documentary for those with this kind of interest.



The Glomar was anchored with the mothball fleet in the Sacramento Delta for
years. Fished next to it a lot. Even from the outside was an
interesting ship. Especially when you read about the design. The tower
for the pipe were still on the ship. Laid down in storage.


A lot of the original equipment was removed when it was sold. According
to the documentary it was eventually sold and converted to an oil
research vessel or something.

The huge tower that held the piping which in turn held the claw device
was mounted on a gimbal using four gigantic custom made bearings. The
gimbal allowed the piping to stay straight when the ship rocked and
rolled due to wave action. Thrusters (along with main propulsion) kept
the ship in place however it was before GPS or satellite navigation.
They had three sensors on the ocean floor, each about a mile apart in a
triangular configuration to sense where the ship was positioned very
precisely.

Speaking of engineering ...
 

On Fri, 16 Mar 2018 20:47:06 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 16 Mar 2018 17:21:27 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


I recently watched "Azorian" via Amazon Prime streaming. It's about
the CIA's program to raise the Soviet sub K-129 that sank off of Iceland
in 1974.

Talk about some serious engineering! Howard Hughes was recruited to
provide a cover story by "financing" the design and building
of the Huges Glomar Explorer as a sea bed mining ship. In reality the
CIA financed it all of course.

The bottom of the ship had two huge doors that slid open
allowing the deployment of a giant lift device with claws that would
submerge, held in place by pipes, to a depth of 16,500 feet where the
sub lay on the bottom.

The technical challenges of designing the systems involved were mind
boggling. Makes the challenge of going to the moon look like duck soup.

Great documentary for those with this kind of interest.

Thanks
I have burned through all of the Frontlines I care about and the
American Experiences. I was getting ready to start Ken Burns America
but I will check that one out first. I have seen a few shows and read
a lot about the Glomar Explorer. I am still curious how much of that
sub we really got. I really question the official story. (but I bet
that is not shocking to anyone)

If you've not seen Ken Burn's 'Civil War', it's well worth watching.

Speaking of engineering ...
 

On Fri, 16 Mar 2018 17:21:27 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:


I recently watched "Azorian" via Amazon Prime streaming. It's about
the CIA's program to raise the Soviet sub K-129 that sank off of Iceland
in 1974.

Talk about some serious engineering! Howard Hughes was recruited to
provide a cover story by "financing" the design and building
of the Huges Glomar Explorer as a sea bed mining ship. In reality the
CIA financed it all of course.

The bottom of the ship had two huge doors that slid open
allowing the deployment of a giant lift device with claws that would
submerge, held in place by pipes, to a depth of 16,500 feet where the
sub lay on the bottom.

The technical challenges of designing the systems involved were mind
boggling. Makes the challenge of going to the moon look like duck soup.

Great documentary for those with this kind of interest.

Thanks. Spielberg's 'World War II in Color' from Netflix is next on my list.

Speaking of engineering ...
 

On 3/17/2018 7:54 AM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 16 Mar 2018 17:21:27 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:


I recently watched "Azorian" via Amazon Prime streaming. It's about
the CIA's program to raise the Soviet sub K-129 that sank off of Iceland
in 1974.

Talk about some serious engineering! Howard Hughes was recruited to
provide a cover story by "financing" the design and building
of the Huges Glomar Explorer as a sea bed mining ship. In reality the
CIA financed it all of course.

The bottom of the ship had two huge doors that slid open
allowing the deployment of a giant lift device with claws that would
submerge, held in place by pipes, to a depth of 16,500 feet where the
sub lay on the bottom.

The technical challenges of designing the systems involved were mind
boggling. Makes the challenge of going to the moon look like duck soup.

Great documentary for those with this kind of interest.

Thanks. Spielberg's 'World War II in Color' from Netflix is next on my list.



I can access Netflix but I never opened an account with them. My
daughter was over the other day and put her Netflix account information
into the PS4 that I use to stream Amazon Prime videos. Worked just fine
so now I can also access Netflix.

Like you and Greg, I enjoy some of the documentaries. Not much of a
regular movie watcher though.

Speaking of engineering ...
 

Mr. Luddite
- show quoted text -

Like you and Greg, I enjoy some of the documentaries. Not much of a
regular movie watcher though.

——-

Same here. Dont have much of a chance though seeing the Mrs has the tv clogged with lifeline and hallmark channel stuff.

Harry doesn’t believe it though. He’s still convinced I watch Fox News... lol!

Speaking of engineering ...
 

On Sat, 17 Mar 2018 08:17:44 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 3/17/2018 7:54 AM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 16 Mar 2018 17:21:27 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:


I recently watched "Azorian" via Amazon Prime streaming. It's about
the CIA's program to raise the Soviet sub K-129 that sank off of Iceland
in 1974.

Talk about some serious engineering! Howard Hughes was recruited to
provide a cover story by "financing" the design and building
of the Huges Glomar Explorer as a sea bed mining ship. In reality the
CIA financed it all of course.

The bottom of the ship had two huge doors that slid open
allowing the deployment of a giant lift device with claws that would
submerge, held in place by pipes, to a depth of 16,500 feet where the
sub lay on the bottom.

The technical challenges of designing the systems involved were mind
boggling. Makes the challenge of going to the moon look like duck soup.

Great documentary for those with this kind of interest.

Thanks. Spielberg's 'World War II in Color' from Netflix is next on my list.



I can access Netflix but I never opened an account with them. My
daughter was over the other day and put her Netflix account information
into the PS4 that I use to stream Amazon Prime videos. Worked just fine
so now I can also access Netflix.

Like you and Greg, I enjoy some of the documentaries. Not much of a
regular movie watcher though.


The WWII documentary is a series. Thirteen episodes for a total of about 10 1/2 hours. I'll set
aside a day and just gorge myself. Maybe two days.

Speaking of engineering ...
 

On Sat, 17 Mar 2018 07:40:46 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Fri, 16 Mar 2018 20:47:06 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 16 Mar 2018 17:21:27 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


I recently watched "Azorian" via Amazon Prime streaming. It's about
the CIA's program to raise the Soviet sub K-129 that sank off of Iceland
in 1974.

Talk about some serious engineering! Howard Hughes was recruited to
provide a cover story by "financing" the design and building
of the Huges Glomar Explorer as a sea bed mining ship. In reality the
CIA financed it all of course.

The bottom of the ship had two huge doors that slid open
allowing the deployment of a giant lift device with claws that would
submerge, held in place by pipes, to a depth of 16,500 feet where the
sub lay on the bottom.

The technical challenges of designing the systems involved were mind
boggling. Makes the challenge of going to the moon look like duck soup.

Great documentary for those with this kind of interest.

Thanks
I have burned through all of the Frontlines I care about and the
American Experiences. I was getting ready to start Ken Burns America
but I will check that one out first. I have seen a few shows and read
a lot about the Glomar Explorer. I am still curious how much of that
sub we really got. I really question the official story. (but I bet
that is not shocking to anyone)

If you've not seen Ken Burn's 'Civil War', it's well worth watching.

I have been through that one a couple times. Those shows are great
for the headset since you really don't need to watch to know what they
are talking about. I can have that running while I am doing other
things.

Speaking of engineering ...
 

On Sat, 17 Mar 2018 08:17:44 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 3/17/2018 7:54 AM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 16 Mar 2018 17:21:27 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:


I recently watched "Azorian" via Amazon Prime streaming. It's about
the CIA's program to raise the Soviet sub K-129 that sank off of Iceland
in 1974.

Talk about some serious engineering! Howard Hughes was recruited to
provide a cover story by "financing" the design and building
of the Huges Glomar Explorer as a sea bed mining ship. In reality the
CIA financed it all of course.

The bottom of the ship had two huge doors that slid open
allowing the deployment of a giant lift device with claws that would
submerge, held in place by pipes, to a depth of 16,500 feet where the
sub lay on the bottom.

The technical challenges of designing the systems involved were mind
boggling. Makes the challenge of going to the moon look like duck soup.

Great documentary for those with this kind of interest.

Thanks. Spielberg's 'World War II in Color' from Netflix is next on my list.



I can access Netflix but I never opened an account with them. My
daughter was over the other day and put her Netflix account information
into the PS4 that I use to stream Amazon Prime videos. Worked just fine
so now I can also access Netflix.

Yup, you can have 2 people logged on to one account on Netflix and
when you exceed that they prompt you to add on more users at an
additional cost

Like you and Greg, I enjoy some of the documentaries. Not much of a
regular movie watcher though.

Speaking of engineering ...
 

On Sat, 17 Mar 2018 09:41:42 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Sat, 17 Mar 2018 08:17:44 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 3/17/2018 7:54 AM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 16 Mar 2018 17:21:27 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:


I recently watched "Azorian" via Amazon Prime streaming. It's about
the CIA's program to raise the Soviet sub K-129 that sank off of Iceland
in 1974.

Talk about some serious engineering! Howard Hughes was recruited to
provide a cover story by "financing" the design and building
of the Huges Glomar Explorer as a sea bed mining ship. In reality the
CIA financed it all of course.

The bottom of the ship had two huge doors that slid open
allowing the deployment of a giant lift device with claws that would
submerge, held in place by pipes, to a depth of 16,500 feet where the
sub lay on the bottom.

The technical challenges of designing the systems involved were mind
boggling. Makes the challenge of going to the moon look like duck soup.

Great documentary for those with this kind of interest.

Thanks. Spielberg's 'World War II in Color' from Netflix is next on my list.



I can access Netflix but I never opened an account with them. My
daughter was over the other day and put her Netflix account information
into the PS4 that I use to stream Amazon Prime videos. Worked just fine
so now I can also access Netflix.

Like you and Greg, I enjoy some of the documentaries. Not much of a
regular movie watcher though.


The WWII documentary is a series. Thirteen episodes for a total of about 10 1/2 hours. I'll set
aside a day and just gorge myself. Maybe two days.

Once you get them suggesting things, you find a whole bunch of WWII
stuff on Amazon but there are also a lot of things on You Tube.

Speaking of engineering ...
 

On 3/17/2018 11:24 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 17 Mar 2018 08:17:44 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 3/17/2018 7:54 AM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 16 Mar 2018 17:21:27 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:


I recently watched "Azorian" via Amazon Prime streaming. It's about
the CIA's program to raise the Soviet sub K-129 that sank off of Iceland
in 1974.

Talk about some serious engineering! Howard Hughes was recruited to
provide a cover story by "financing" the design and building
of the Huges Glomar Explorer as a sea bed mining ship. In reality the
CIA financed it all of course.

The bottom of the ship had two huge doors that slid open
allowing the deployment of a giant lift device with claws that would
submerge, held in place by pipes, to a depth of 16,500 feet where the
sub lay on the bottom.

The technical challenges of designing the systems involved were mind
boggling. Makes the challenge of going to the moon look like duck soup.

Great documentary for those with this kind of interest.

Thanks. Spielberg's 'World War II in Color' from Netflix is next on my list.



I can access Netflix but I never opened an account with them. My
daughter was over the other day and put her Netflix account information
into the PS4 that I use to stream Amazon Prime videos. Worked just fine
so now I can also access Netflix.

Yup, you can have 2 people logged on to one account on Netflix and
when you exceed that they prompt you to add on more users at an
additional cost

Like you and Greg, I enjoy some of the documentaries. Not much of a
regular movie watcher though.




She already had three "profiles" on her account. Her, her husband and
another for her boys. Mine was the forth profile and it went through
fine. Maybe the extra charge is if more than two people are logged on
at the same time?

She said she only pays something like $10/mo for the Netflix account.

Speaking of engineering ...
 

On 3/17/2018 1:35 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/17/2018 11:24 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 17 Mar 2018 08:17:44 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 3/17/2018 7:54 AM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 16 Mar 2018 17:21:27 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:


I recently watched "Azorian" via Amazon Prime streaming. It's about
the CIA's program to raise the Soviet sub K-129 that sank off of Iceland
in 1974.

Talk about some serious engineering! Howard Hughes was recruited to
provide a cover story by "financing" the design and building
of the Huges Glomar Explorer as a sea bed mining ship. In reality the
CIA financed it all of course.

The bottom of the ship had two huge doors that slid open
allowing the deployment of a giant lift device with claws that would
submerge, held in place by pipes, to a depth of 16,500 feet where the
sub lay on the bottom.

The technical challenges of designing the systems involved were mind
boggling. Makes the challenge of going to the moon look like duck soup.

Great documentary for those with this kind of interest.

Thanks. Spielberg's 'World War II in Color' from Netflix is next on my list.



I can access Netflix but I never opened an account with them. My
daughter was over the other day and put her Netflix account information
into the PS4 that I use to stream Amazon Prime videos. Worked just fine
so now I can also access Netflix.

Yup, you can have 2 people logged on to one account on Netflix and
when you exceed that they prompt you to add on more users at an
additional cost

Like you and Greg, I enjoy some of the documentaries. Not much of a
regular movie watcher though.




She already had three "profiles" on her account. Her, her husband and
another for her boys. Mine was the forth profile and it went through
fine. Maybe the extra charge is if more than two people are logged on
at the same time?

She said she only pays something like $10/mo for the Netflix account.




$10 a month is the charge here. My wife finds a lot to watch when she has
the time to do so. She likes series and Brit shows. I don’t find that much
I like and I’m not a fan of series.



I watched another that was the story of Hyman Rickover and his
management of the Navy's nuclear power program. He was a odd ball for
sure and despised everything to do with Navy and Washington DC
bureaucracy. Interesting story and I think you would have appreciation
some of it. He demanded safety above all, even if it risked busting his
allocated budget. The Navy tried to get rid of him by passing him over
for promotion three times. (He was a Captain at the time). He bypassed
the Navy, went to Congress and got his promotion to Rear Admiral.

He personally interviewed all candidates for the newly formed nuclear
program. Jimmy Carter was interviewed and Rickover asked him what his
class standing was at Annapolis. Carter told him he was 59th out of a
class over over 800. Rickover sat and thought for a while and then
asked Carter, "Did you do the best you could?" Carter looked at the
floor and finally answered, "no". Rickover abruptly told him to "get
out", but Carter was accepted for the program because he had answered
honestly.

Best part was when, at 80 years old, he was forced to retire. President
Reagan called him to the White House to honor him along with a bunch of
Reagan's cabinet and other dignitaries. Rickover basically told them
all to go to hell and then pointed at all the people in the room and
asked why they were there to begin with. He told Reagan that he thought
the meeting was supposed to be just himself and the President. Reagan
kicked everyone else out, talked privately with the ornery Rickover for
about 15 minutes and Rickover left happy.

Speaking of engineering ...
 

On Sat, 17 Mar 2018 13:56:20 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

The Navy tried to get rid of him by passing him over
for promotion three times. (He was a Captain at the time). He bypassed
the Navy, went to Congress and got his promotion to Rear Admiral.

===

That must have endeared him with the rest of his naval colleagues. :-)

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Speaking of engineering ...
 

On 3/17/2018 2:58 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 17 Mar 2018 13:56:20 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

The Navy tried to get rid of him by passing him over
for promotion three times. (He was a Captain at the time). He bypassed
the Navy, went to Congress and got his promotion to Rear Admiral.

===

That must have endeared him with the rest of his naval colleagues. :-)


Oh, they hated him. He didn't play by the rules.

The Navy was nervous after WWII because the only way to deliver a nuke
then was via bomb from an airplane. They were concerned that the Air
Force would become the dominate branch of the military, making the Navy
obsolete. So the Navy brass wanted nuke power and a means of delivering
a nuke fast and Rickover wouldn't sacrifice safety for speed of delivery.

The first Navy subs with nuclear tipped warheads had a system called
"Regulus". They weren't vertically launched missiles like "Polaris"
that came later. They were actually turbofan powered cruise missiles
that were derived from the German V1 "buzz bomb" weapons used in WWII.
The Regulus was launched on a short rail system from the deck of the
sub assisted by two JATO rockets. Sub had to surface to fire them.

I had never heard of this system before. It stayed in service until
1964 when the Polaris missile came along. The subs that were originally
designed for Regulus were converted to carry the vertically fired
Polaris rocket.

Speaking of engineering ...
 

On Sat, 17 Mar 2018 13:56:20 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 3/17/2018 1:35 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/17/2018 11:24 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 17 Mar 2018 08:17:44 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 3/17/2018 7:54 AM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 16 Mar 2018 17:21:27 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:


I recently watched "Azorian" via Amazon Prime streaming. It's about
the CIA's program to raise the Soviet sub K-129 that sank off of Iceland
in 1974.

Talk about some serious engineering! Howard Hughes was recruited to
provide a cover story by "financing" the design and building
of the Huges Glomar Explorer as a sea bed mining ship. In reality the
CIA financed it all of course.

The bottom of the ship had two huge doors that slid open
allowing the deployment of a giant lift device with claws that would
submerge, held in place by pipes, to a depth of 16,500 feet where the
sub lay on the bottom.

The technical challenges of designing the systems involved were mind
boggling. Makes the challenge of going to the moon look like duck soup.

Great documentary for those with this kind of interest.

Thanks. Spielberg's 'World War II in Color' from Netflix is next on my list.



I can access Netflix but I never opened an account with them. My
daughter was over the other day and put her Netflix account information
into the PS4 that I use to stream Amazon Prime videos. Worked just fine
so now I can also access Netflix.

Yup, you can have 2 people logged on to one account on Netflix and
when you exceed that they prompt you to add on more users at an
additional cost

Like you and Greg, I enjoy some of the documentaries. Not much of a
regular movie watcher though.




She already had three "profiles" on her account. Her, her husband and
another for her boys. Mine was the forth profile and it went through
fine. Maybe the extra charge is if more than two people are logged on
at the same time?

She said she only pays something like $10/mo for the Netflix account.




$10 a month is the charge here. My wife finds a lot to watch when she has
the time to do so. She likes series and Brit shows. I don’t find that much
I like and I’m not a fan of series.



I watched another that was the story of Hyman Rickover and his
management of the Navy's nuclear power program. He was a odd ball for
sure and despised everything to do with Navy and Washington DC
bureaucracy. Interesting story and I think you would have appreciation
some of it. He demanded safety above all, even if it risked busting his
allocated budget. The Navy tried to get rid of him by passing him over
for promotion three times. (He was a Captain at the time). He bypassed
the Navy, went to Congress and got his promotion to Rear Admiral.

He personally interviewed all candidates for the newly formed nuclear
program. Jimmy Carter was interviewed and Rickover asked him what his
class standing was at Annapolis. Carter told him he was 59th out of a
class over over 800. Rickover sat and thought for a while and then
asked Carter, "Did you do the best you could?" Carter looked at the
floor and finally answered, "no". Rickover abruptly told him to "get
out", but Carter was accepted for the program because he had answered
honestly.

Best part was when, at 80 years old, he was forced to retire. President
Reagan called him to the White House to honor him along with a bunch of
Reagan's cabinet and other dignitaries. Rickover basically told them
all to go to hell and then pointed at all the people in the room and
asked why they were there to begin with. He told Reagan that he thought
the meeting was supposed to be just himself and the President. Reagan
kicked everyone else out, talked privately with the ornery Rickover for
about 15 minutes and Rickover left happy.

When my youngest brother, Tom, graduated with his Civil Engineer degree he applied for the Navy's
nuclear sub program. He was flown from Seattle to the east coast, went through a series of tests and
boards, and finally came to the Rickover interview. After a few questions and answers Rickover asked
Tom if he'd smoked marijuana in college. Tom answered in the affirmative, and Rickover told him
'that'll be all'. And it was. There was no acceptance for answering honestly. So he joined the Navy,
got in the SeaBees, got out, and made a bunch of money as an engineer. He'll be retiring from the
Navy Reserves as a Commander or maybe Captain in one of these years.

Speaking of engineering ...
 

On Sat, 17 Mar 2018 12:43:46 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 3/17/2018 11:24 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 17 Mar 2018 08:17:44 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 3/17/2018 7:54 AM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 16 Mar 2018 17:21:27 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:


I recently watched "Azorian" via Amazon Prime streaming. It's about
the CIA's program to raise the Soviet sub K-129 that sank off of Iceland
in 1974.

Talk about some serious engineering! Howard Hughes was recruited to
provide a cover story by "financing" the design and building
of the Huges Glomar Explorer as a sea bed mining ship. In reality the
CIA financed it all of course.

The bottom of the ship had two huge doors that slid open
allowing the deployment of a giant lift device with claws that would
submerge, held in place by pipes, to a depth of 16,500 feet where the
sub lay on the bottom.

The technical challenges of designing the systems involved were mind
boggling. Makes the challenge of going to the moon look like duck soup.

Great documentary for those with this kind of interest.

Thanks. Spielberg's 'World War II in Color' from Netflix is next on my list.



I can access Netflix but I never opened an account with them. My
daughter was over the other day and put her Netflix account information
into the PS4 that I use to stream Amazon Prime videos. Worked just fine
so now I can also access Netflix.

Yup, you can have 2 people logged on to one account on Netflix and
when you exceed that they prompt you to add on more users at an
additional cost

Like you and Greg, I enjoy some of the documentaries. Not much of a
regular movie watcher though.




She already had three "profiles" on her account. Her, her husband and
another for her boys. Mine was the forth profile and it went through
fine. Maybe the extra charge is if more than two people are logged on
at the same time?

She said she only pays something like $10/mo for the Netflix account.


The extra money is just for how many log ins you have at one time. I
am not sure there is any limit to profiles.

Speaking of engineering ...
 

On 3/17/2018 4:18 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 17 Mar 2018 13:56:20 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 3/17/2018 1:35 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/17/2018 11:24 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 17 Mar 2018 08:17:44 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 3/17/2018 7:54 AM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 16 Mar 2018 17:21:27 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:


I recently watched "Azorian" via Amazon Prime streaming. It's about
the CIA's program to raise the Soviet sub K-129 that sank off of Iceland
in 1974.

Talk about some serious engineering! Howard Hughes was recruited to
provide a cover story by "financing" the design and building
of the Huges Glomar Explorer as a sea bed mining ship. In reality the
CIA financed it all of course.

The bottom of the ship had two huge doors that slid open
allowing the deployment of a giant lift device with claws that would
submerge, held in place by pipes, to a depth of 16,500 feet where the
sub lay on the bottom.

The technical challenges of designing the systems involved were mind
boggling. Makes the challenge of going to the moon look like duck soup.

Great documentary for those with this kind of interest.

Thanks. Spielberg's 'World War II in Color' from Netflix is next on my list.



I can access Netflix but I never opened an account with them. My
daughter was over the other day and put her Netflix account information
into the PS4 that I use to stream Amazon Prime videos. Worked just fine
so now I can also access Netflix.

Yup, you can have 2 people logged on to one account on Netflix and
when you exceed that they prompt you to add on more users at an
additional cost

Like you and Greg, I enjoy some of the documentaries. Not much of a
regular movie watcher though.




She already had three "profiles" on her account. Her, her husband and
another for her boys. Mine was the forth profile and it went through
fine. Maybe the extra charge is if more than two people are logged on
at the same time?

She said she only pays something like $10/mo for the Netflix account.




$10 a month is the charge here. My wife finds a lot to watch when she has
the time to do so. She likes series and Brit shows. I don’t find that much
I like and I’m not a fan of series.



I watched another that was the story of Hyman Rickover and his
management of the Navy's nuclear power program. He was a odd ball for
sure and despised everything to do with Navy and Washington DC
bureaucracy. Interesting story and I think you would have appreciation
some of it. He demanded safety above all, even if it risked busting his
allocated budget. The Navy tried to get rid of him by passing him over
for promotion three times. (He was a Captain at the time). He bypassed
the Navy, went to Congress and got his promotion to Rear Admiral.

He personally interviewed all candidates for the newly formed nuclear
program. Jimmy Carter was interviewed and Rickover asked him what his
class standing was at Annapolis. Carter told him he was 59th out of a
class over over 800. Rickover sat and thought for a while and then
asked Carter, "Did you do the best you could?" Carter looked at the
floor and finally answered, "no". Rickover abruptly told him to "get
out", but Carter was accepted for the program because he had answered
honestly.

Best part was when, at 80 years old, he was forced to retire. President
Reagan called him to the White House to honor him along with a bunch of
Reagan's cabinet and other dignitaries. Rickover basically told them
all to go to hell and then pointed at all the people in the room and
asked why they were there to begin with. He told Reagan that he thought
the meeting was supposed to be just himself and the President. Reagan
kicked everyone else out, talked privately with the ornery Rickover for
about 15 minutes and Rickover left happy.

When my youngest brother, Tom, graduated with his Civil Engineer degree he applied for the Navy's
nuclear sub program. He was flown from Seattle to the east coast, went through a series of tests and
boards, and finally came to the Rickover interview. After a few questions and answers Rickover asked
Tom if he'd smoked marijuana in college. Tom answered in the affirmative, and Rickover told him
'that'll be all'. And it was. There was no acceptance for answering honestly. So he joined the Navy,
got in the SeaBees, got out, and made a bunch of money as an engineer. He'll be retiring from the
Navy Reserves as a Commander or maybe Captain in one of these years.



Rickover was a strange duck but brilliant. He refused to wear a uniform
unless absolutely necessary and, when conducting meetings with other
officers, required them to remove their jackets. He didn't want
anyone's rank displayed.

Speaking of engineering ...
 

On Sat, 17 Mar 2018 16:47:47 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 3/17/2018 4:18 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 17 Mar 2018 13:56:20 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 3/17/2018 1:35 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/17/2018 11:24 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 17 Mar 2018 08:17:44 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 3/17/2018 7:54 AM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 16 Mar 2018 17:21:27 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:


I recently watched "Azorian" via Amazon Prime streaming. It's about
the CIA's program to raise the Soviet sub K-129 that sank off of Iceland
in 1974.

Talk about some serious engineering! Howard Hughes was recruited to
provide a cover story by "financing" the design and building
of the Huges Glomar Explorer as a sea bed mining ship. In reality the
CIA financed it all of course.

The bottom of the ship had two huge doors that slid open
allowing the deployment of a giant lift device with claws that would
submerge, held in place by pipes, to a depth of 16,500 feet where the
sub lay on the bottom.

The technical challenges of designing the systems involved were mind
boggling. Makes the challenge of going to the moon look like duck soup.

Great documentary for those with this kind of interest.

Thanks. Spielberg's 'World War II in Color' from Netflix is next on my list.



I can access Netflix but I never opened an account with them. My
daughter was over the other day and put her Netflix account information
into the PS4 that I use to stream Amazon Prime videos. Worked just fine
so now I can also access Netflix.

Yup, you can have 2 people logged on to one account on Netflix and
when you exceed that they prompt you to add on more users at an
additional cost

Like you and Greg, I enjoy some of the documentaries. Not much of a
regular movie watcher though.




She already had three "profiles" on her account. Her, her husband and
another for her boys. Mine was the forth profile and it went through
fine. Maybe the extra charge is if more than two people are logged on
at the same time?

She said she only pays something like $10/mo for the Netflix account.




$10 a month is the charge here. My wife finds a lot to watch when she has
the time to do so. She likes series and Brit shows. I don’t find that much
I like and I’m not a fan of series.



I watched another that was the story of Hyman Rickover and his
management of the Navy's nuclear power program. He was a odd ball for
sure and despised everything to do with Navy and Washington DC
bureaucracy. Interesting story and I think you would have appreciation
some of it. He demanded safety above all, even if it risked busting his
allocated budget. The Navy tried to get rid of him by passing him over
for promotion three times. (He was a Captain at the time). He bypassed
the Navy, went to Congress and got his promotion to Rear Admiral.

He personally interviewed all candidates for the newly formed nuclear
program. Jimmy Carter was interviewed and Rickover asked him what his
class standing was at Annapolis. Carter told him he was 59th out of a
class over over 800. Rickover sat and thought for a while and then
asked Carter, "Did you do the best you could?" Carter looked at the
floor and finally answered, "no". Rickover abruptly told him to "get
out", but Carter was accepted for the program because he had answered
honestly.

Best part was when, at 80 years old, he was forced to retire. President
Reagan called him to the White House to honor him along with a bunch of
Reagan's cabinet and other dignitaries. Rickover basically told them
all to go to hell and then pointed at all the people in the room and
asked why they were there to begin with. He told Reagan that he thought
the meeting was supposed to be just himself and the President. Reagan
kicked everyone else out, talked privately with the ornery Rickover for
about 15 minutes and Rickover left happy.

When my youngest brother, Tom, graduated with his Civil Engineer degree he applied for the Navy's
nuclear sub program. He was flown from Seattle to the east coast, went through a series of tests and
boards, and finally came to the Rickover interview. After a few questions and answers Rickover asked
Tom if he'd smoked marijuana in college. Tom answered in the affirmative, and Rickover told him
'that'll be all'. And it was. There was no acceptance for answering honestly. So he joined the Navy,
got in the SeaBees, got out, and made a bunch of money as an engineer. He'll be retiring from the
Navy Reserves as a Commander or maybe Captain in one of these years.



Rickover was a strange duck but brilliant. He refused to wear a uniform
unless absolutely necessary and, when conducting meetings with other
officers, required them to remove their jackets. He didn't want
anyone's rank displayed.


The Navy wasted a lot of money on my brother. But, he was the boss.