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They say my EU2000i generator was flooded. They drained the carb and supposidly all is well. I'll try it tomorrow when these heavy winds die down.
BTW..didn't realize that the unit pumps more gas in each time you pull the starter cord... no wonder it got flooded. The question is...why did it die after running for 2 or three minutes. Maybe I eased the choke back a bit and turned on the 'Econo' mode before it was fully warmed up. Mechanic sys to run it each week and counter guy now says to swap out gas for fresh hi test on a monthly basis. D'oh..if I had realized how much trouble these things are for extremely low usage, I might have invested in a few big batteries and a good inverter. |
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True North
They say my EU2000i generator was flooded. They drained the carb and supposidly all is well. I'll try it tomorrow when these heavy winds die down. BTW..didn't realize that the unit pumps more gas in each time you pull the starter cord... no wonder it got flooded. The question is...why did it die after running for 2 or three minutes. Maybe I eased the choke back a bit and turned on the 'Econo' mode before it was fully warmed up. Mechanic sys to run it each week and counter guy now says to swap out gas for fresh hi test on a monthly basis. D'oh..if I had realized how much trouble these things are for extremely low usage, I might have invested in a few big batteries and a good inverter. —— Something doesn’t sound right. I’m thinking the carbs needle valve may have stuck flooding the engine, but it running for a while makes no sense. And changing out the gas every time you turn around seem ridiculous too. Now that you’re home with it have you tried it? I’m wondering if it’s possible to have a defective coil that malfunctions when it’s warm. Whatever it is Don, I don’t think it’s on your end. I think it needs checked out under a load... |
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True North Wrote in message:
They say my EU2000i generator was flooded. They drained the carb and supposidly all is well. I'll try it tomorrow when these heavy winds die down. BTW..didn't realize that the unit pumps more gas in each time you pull the starter cord... no wonder it got flooded. The question is...why did it die after running for 2 or three minutes. Maybe I eased the choke back a bit and turned on the 'Econo' mode before it was fully warmed up. Mechanic sys to run it each week and counter guy now says to swap out gas for fresh hi test on a monthly basis. D'oh..if I had realized how much trouble these things are for extremely low usage, I might have invested in a few big batteries and a good inverter. You should have bought an idiot proof backup generator like Fat Harry did. Why is everything so complicated for you? -- x ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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On Wed, 14 Mar 2018 09:14:04 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote: They say my EU2000i generator was flooded. They drained the carb and supposidly all is well. I'll try it tomorrow when these heavy winds die down. BTW..didn't realize that the unit pumps more gas in each time you pull the starter cord... no wonder it got flooded. The question is...why did it die after running for 2 or three minutes. Maybe I eased the choke back a bit and turned on the 'Econo' mode before it was fully warmed up. Mechanic sys to run it each week and counter guy now says to swap out gas for fresh hi test on a monthly basis. D'oh..if I had realized how much trouble these things are for extremely low usage, I might have invested in a few big batteries and a good inverter. === Depending on your power needs, big batteries and an inverter can be a good solution. If your average draw is less than 600 watts or so (50 amps at 12 volts), you could keep the batteries charged up with the alternator on your vehicle. I used to do that once in a while before I had a generator, running jumper cables under the garage door to the batteries inside. I'd recommend using a sine wave inverter. --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com |
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"Something doesn’t sound right. I’m thinking the carbs needle valve may have stuck flooding the engine, but it running for a while makes no sense. And changing out the gas every time you turn around seem ridiculous too.Â* Now that you’re home with it have you tried it? Â*I’m wondering if it’s possible to have a defective coil that malfunctions when it’s warm. Â* Whatever it is Don, I don’t think it’s on your end. I think it needs checked out under a load..."Â* I'll try the Honda tomorrow.....any problems and back it goes. I re-visited the manual and it gives about 4 options depending on how often the unit will be used. I'll probably do the long term storage option of running the unit until it stops on Seafoam treated high octane gas and then using my hand pump to empty the tank, then using a drain plug on the carb bottom to remove any gas there. Next I'll remove the spark plug to either spray the cylinder or put a couple teaspoons of oil in, then pulling the starter to distribute and loosely replace the spark plug. Illkeep a couple liters of treated high test on hand in a small jug..swapping that into the Highlander every month or so. |
just got back from Honda dealership...
True North
"Something doesn’t sound right. I’m thinking the carbs needle valve may have stuck flooding the engine, but it running for a while makes no sense. And changing out the gas every time you turn around seem ridiculous too. Now that you’re home with it have you tried it? I’m wondering if it’s possible to have a defective coil that malfunctions when it’s warm. Whatever it is Don, I don’t think it’s on your end. I think it needs checked out under a load..." I'll try the Honda tomorrow.....any problems and back it goes. I re-visited the manual and it gives about 4 options depending on how often the unit will be used. I'll probably do the long term storage option of running the unit until it stops on Seafoam treated high octane gas and then using my hand pump to empty the tank, then using a drain plug on the carb bottom to remove any gas there. Next I'll remove the spark plug to either spray the cylinder or put a couple teaspoons of oil in, then pulling the starter to distribute and loosely replace the spark plug. Illkeep a couple liters of treated high test on hand in a small jug..swapping that into the Highlander every month or so. .... Something tells me they got it runn No for s few second and shut it off. That’s no test. If they’re selling generators they should have the equipment to simulate a load for it and put it through the paces. Don, I wouldn’t be surprised if it doesn’t screw up again.... |
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On 3/14/2018 12:14 PM, True North wrote:
They say my EU2000i generator was flooded. They drained the carb and supposidly all is well. I'll try it tomorrow when these heavy winds die down. BTW..didn't realize that the unit pumps more gas in each time you pull the starter cord... no wonder it got flooded. The question is...why did it die after running for 2 or three minutes. Maybe I eased the choke back a bit and turned on the 'Econo' mode before it was fully warmed up. Mechanic sys to run it each week and counter guy now says to swap out gas for fresh hi test on a monthly basis. D'oh..if I had realized how much trouble these things are for extremely low usage, I might have invested in a few big batteries and a good inverter. One thing about them Don ... when you first do a cold start with full choke, don't turn the choke all the way to "off" when it starts. Let it run for a couple of minutes with the choke in the halfway position. You can hear it smooth out and run and, after it warms up a bit, turn the choke off. One other thing ... try not to let it run completely out of gas. If it does, (and it has just been running) you'll probably need to choke it again briefly to get it running but immediately turn the choke off when it starts. I've found that if I refuel before it runs out there's no need to choke it again and it starts on the first tug. My 14 year old eu2000i came to the rescue again for the past two days. Been running it constantly, stopping only to refuel. Had it powering the refrigerator, a radiator type space heater in the bedroom set at the lowest wattage rating, a small TV and the cable box. Those loads allow it to run in the "Eco" mode, saving gas. The only time it "burbs" up for a second is when the refer compressor kicks on. Then it goes back to idle mode. We got hit fairly hard again although not quite as much snow as predicted. Still, a good 16 inches around here but it was the really wet, heavy crap that then froze on utility poles, trees and branches. The result was major damage to the power lines. Five poles near us were snapped in half with transformers flying everywhere. Lines were broken by huge oak trees that crashed onto the lines. But, power was just restored an hour ago. Feels good to have heat again. Now the weather people are forecasting another nor'easter next Tues or Weds. Too early to determine how bad or what it's path will be. |
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True North wrote:
"Something doesn’t sound right. I’m thinking the carbs needle valve may have stuck flooding the engine, but it running for a while makes no sense. And changing out the gas every time you turn around seem ridiculous too. Now that you’re home with it have you tried it? I’m wondering if it’s possible to have a defective coil that malfunctions when it’s warm. Whatever it is Don, I don’t think it’s on your end. I think it needs checked out under a load..." I'll try the Honda tomorrow.....any problems and back it goes. I re-visited the manual and it gives about 4 options depending on how often the unit will be used. I'll probably do the long term storage option of running the unit until it stops on Seafoam treated high octane gas and then using my hand pump to empty the tank, then using a drain plug on the carb bottom to remove any gas there. Next I'll remove the spark plug to either spray the cylinder or put a couple teaspoons of oil in, then pulling the starter to distribute and loosely replace the spark plug. Illkeep a couple liters of treated high test on hand in a small jug..swapping that into the Highlander every month or so. Skip the pump gas and Seafoam and get a quart of this: http://trufuel50.com/ After you are done using it, run the pump gas out of the tank, pour this in, run it for 15 minutes to clean out any remaining pump gas and you can store it for 2+ years without doing anything. |
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True North wrote:
They say my EU2000i generator was flooded. They drained the carb and supposidly all is well. I'll try it tomorrow when these heavy winds die down. BTW..didn't realize that the unit pumps more gas in each time you pull the starter cord... no wonder it got flooded. The question is...why did it die after running for 2 or three minutes. Maybe I eased the choke back a bit and turned on the 'Econo' mode before it was fully warmed up. Mechanic sys to run it each week and counter guy now says to swap out gas for fresh hi test on a monthly basis. D'oh..if I had realized how much trouble these things are for extremely low usage, I might have invested in a few big batteries and a good inverter. "supposidly"? "sys"? "hi test"? I'll stop when you stop, deal? |
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"One thing about them Don ... when you first do a cold start with fullÂ*
choke, don't turn the choke all the way to "off" when it starts. Â*Let itÂ* run for a couple of minutes with the choke in the halfway position. Â*YouÂ* can hear it smooth out and run and, after it warms up a bit, turn theÂ* choke off.Â* One other thing ... try not to let it run completely out of gas.Â* If it does, (and it has just been running) Â*you'll probably need toÂ* choke it again briefly to get it running but immediately turn the chokeÂ* off when it starts. Â* I've found that if I refuel before it runs outÂ* there's no need to choke it again and it starts on the first tug.Â* My 14 year old eu2000i came to the rescue again for the past two days.Â* Been running it constantly, stopping only to refuel. Â*Had it poweringÂ* the refrigerator, a radiator type space heater in the bedroom set atÂ* the lowest wattage rating, a small TV and the cable box. Â*Those loadsÂ* allow it to run in the "Eco" mode, saving gas. Â*The only time it "burbs"Â* up for a second is when the refer compressor kicks on. Â*Then it goesÂ* back to idle mode.Â* We got hit fairly hard again although not quite as much snow asÂ* predicted. Â*Still, a good 16 inches around here but it was the reallyÂ* wet, heavy crap that then froze on utility poles, trees and branches.Â* The result was major damage to the power lines. Â*Five poles near us wereÂ* snapped in half with transformers flying everywhere. Â*Lines were brokenÂ* by huge oak trees that crashed onto the lines.Â* But, power was just restored an hour ago. Â*Feels good to have heatÂ* again. Â*Now the weather people are forecasting another nor'easter nextÂ* Tues or Weds. Â* Too early to determine how bad or what it's path will be."Â* We've been to Costco looking for those Presto Parabolic heaters for the wife. They ran out 2 weeks before we went looking in mid January. They'll probably bring them back in late July. I've only been able to burn a thimble full of gas so far. Hopefully I'll have better luck tomorrow. The guys at the dealer keep telling me how reliable these models are. We didn't get a lot of snow in the city but it turned to rain overnight. High winds were the problem ...up to 100 km in town |
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On 3/14/2018 7:02 PM, True North wrote:
"One thing about them Don ... when you first do a cold start with full choke, don't turn the choke all the way to "off" when it starts. Â*Let it run for a couple of minutes with the choke in the halfway position. Â*You can hear it smooth out and run and, after it warms up a bit, turn the choke off. One other thing ... try not to let it run completely out of gas. If it does, (and it has just been running) Â*you'll probably need to choke it again briefly to get it running but immediately turn the choke off when it starts. Â* I've found that if I refuel before it runs out there's no need to choke it again and it starts on the first tug. My 14 year old eu2000i came to the rescue again for the past two days. Been running it constantly, stopping only to refuel. Â*Had it powering the refrigerator, a radiator type space heater in the bedroom set at the lowest wattage rating, a small TV and the cable box. Â*Those loads allow it to run in the "Eco" mode, saving gas. Â*The only time it "burbs" up for a second is when the refer compressor kicks on. Â*Then it goes back to idle mode. We got hit fairly hard again although not quite as much snow as predicted. Â*Still, a good 16 inches around here but it was the really wet, heavy crap that then froze on utility poles, trees and branches. The result was major damage to the power lines. Â*Five poles near us were snapped in half with transformers flying everywhere. Â*Lines were broken by huge oak trees that crashed onto the lines. But, power was just restored an hour ago. Â*Feels good to have heat again. Â*Now the weather people are forecasting another nor'easter next Tues or Weds. Â* Too early to determine how bad or what it's path will be." We've been to Costco looking for those Presto Parabolic heaters for the wife. They ran out 2 weeks before we went looking in mid January. They'll probably bring them back in late July. I've only been able to burn a thimble full of gas so far. Hopefully I'll have better luck tomorrow. The guys at the dealer keep telling me how reliable these models are. We didn't get a lot of snow in the city but it turned to rain overnight. High winds were the problem ...up to 100 km in town My next door neighbor has a eu2000i that's even older than mine. Like mine, it has a lot of hours on it and still performs flawlessly. I am not one to overly endorse a product but in the case of this little generator, it's been amazing. I've given it every reason in the world to go tits up but it keeps running and producing electricity. I have a feeling that once you've gained a little more experience with it and learn what it likes and doesn't like (especially cold starts) you'll find it to be very reliable ... Oh .. you mentioned that the dealer said yours was flooded. That's very easy to determine. Just take out the spark plug and inspect it. If it's wet and smells like gasoline ... yup .. it's flooded. I really don't understand what taking the carburetor apart to "dry it out" is all about. |
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On Wednesday, 14 March 2018 21:38:54 UTC-3, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/14/2018 7:02 PM, True North wrote: "One thing about them Don ... when you first do a cold start with full choke, don't turn the choke all the way to "off" when it starts. Â*Let it run for a couple of minutes with the choke in the halfway position. Â*You can hear it smooth out and run and, after it warms up a bit, turn the choke off. One other thing ... try not to let it run completely out of gas. If it does, (and it has just been running) Â*you'll probably need to choke it again briefly to get it running but immediately turn the choke off when it starts. Â* I've found that if I refuel before it runs out there's no need to choke it again and it starts on the first tug. My 14 year old eu2000i came to the rescue again for the past two days. Been running it constantly, stopping only to refuel. Â*Had it powering the refrigerator, a radiator type space heater in the bedroom set at the lowest wattage rating, a small TV and the cable box. Â*Those loads allow it to run in the "Eco" mode, saving gas. Â*The only time it "burbs" up for a second is when the refer compressor kicks on. Â*Then it goes back to idle mode. We got hit fairly hard again although not quite as much snow as predicted. Â*Still, a good 16 inches around here but it was the really wet, heavy crap that then froze on utility poles, trees and branches. The result was major damage to the power lines. Â*Five poles near us were snapped in half with transformers flying everywhere. Â*Lines were broken by huge oak trees that crashed onto the lines. But, power was just restored an hour ago. Â*Feels good to have heat again. Â*Now the weather people are forecasting another nor'easter next Tues or Weds. Â* Too early to determine how bad or what it's path will be." We've been to Costco looking for those Presto Parabolic heaters for the wife. They ran out 2 weeks before we went looking in mid January. They'll probably bring them back in late July. I've only been able to burn a thimble full of gas so far. Hopefully I'll have better luck tomorrow. The guys at the dealer keep telling me how reliable these models are. We didn't get a lot of snow in the city but it turned to rain overnight.. High winds were the problem ...up to 100 km in town My next door neighbor has a eu2000i that's even older than mine. Like mine, it has a lot of hours on it and still performs flawlessly. I am not one to overly endorse a product but in the case of this little generator, it's been amazing. I've given it every reason in the world to go tits up but it keeps running and producing electricity. I have a feeling that once you've gained a little more experience with it and learn what it likes and doesn't like (especially cold starts) you'll find it to be very reliable ... Oh .. you mentioned that the dealer said yours was flooded. That's very easy to determine. Just take out the spark plug and inspect it. If it's wet and smells like gasoline ... yup .. it's flooded. I really don't understand what taking the carburetor apart to "dry it out" is all about. Don't think I said they or I would take the carb apart to dry it out. I was talking about the little drain plug on the bottom...that drains the carb when it's loosened or removed. Anyway I'll fully close the choke when "cold starting" and gradually open it as the unit warms up. Tomorrow will tell the tale....did I get a lemon or was it operator failure? |
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I bought my Honda in 2000 so it's coming up on 18 years old. Still runs great.
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just got back from Honda dealership...
On 3/15/2018 8:24 AM, justan wrote:
"Mr. Luddite" Wrote in message: On 3/15/2018 2:01 AM, wrote: I bought my Honda in 2000 so it's coming up on 18 years old. Still runs great. Yeah, my neighbor bought his in 2000 also primarily for camping. 18 years old and it still runs like new. I've only changed the oil in mine twice in 12 years and it has many, many hours on it because the contractors used it daily for a summer to power the stone cutting saw when they were installing the bluestone for the pool. I figured it was a donation to the pool installation but, it still runs. Yesterday I checked the oil level. It's supposed to shut down if the oil drops too low. Oil was still full on the little dipstick. I also pulled the spark plug recently figuring that after all the hours on it the plug probably needed to be replaced. Nope. Electrodes were still in great shape and even the gap was per spec. Amazing little generator. The only problem with them is that they generate 124 vac, single phase only, so you really can't backfeed a house power panel with them. I ran my furnace yesterday by pulling out the hot lead for the furnace circuit from the breaker in the house panel, wirenuted a power cord to it and ran the furnace for a while off the generator. You can backfeed one leg. You can also move things around on your power panel to put all the circuts you want to use on that same leg. You do need to try to keep the panel balanced. It's pretty amazing that the little generator can do so much. It has it's limitations, power-wise but I am willing to deal with that because it's so quiet and can run all night providing power to essentials. Can't see having a big, whole house generator for the number of times we lose power. If necessary I can hook it up to the furnace and run it for a while. That said, I was just given a brand new, still in the box, 4800 watt generator that produces 240 volts. Person who bought it never had to use it and doesn't need auxiliary power anymore. Don't know what I am going to do with it yet, if anything, but the price was right. Free. My brother was using a generator I gave to his step-son (Barry) after Wilma when Barry had a house in Florida. Contractor type and I couldn't believe how freakin' noisy those things are. He had it running in his driveway near the house and you had to shout to carry on a conversation. |
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On 3/15/18 8:41 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/15/2018 8:24 AM, justan wrote: "Mr. Luddite" Wrote in message: On 3/15/2018 2:01 AM, wrote: I bought my Honda in 2000 so it's coming up on 18 years old. Still runs great. Yeah, my neighbor bought his in 2000 also primarily for camping. 18 years old and it still runs like new. I've only changed the oil in mine twice in 12 years and it has many, many hours on it because the contractors used it daily for a summer to power the stone cutting saw when they were installing the bluestone for the pool.Â* I figured it was a donation to the pool installation but, it still runs. Yesterday I checked the oil level.Â* It's supposed to shut down if the oil drops too low.Â* Oil was still full on the little dipstick. I also pulled the spark plug recently figuring that after all the hours on it the plug probably needed to be replaced.Â* Nope.Â* Electrodes were still in great shape and even the gap was per spec. Amazing little generator.Â* The only problem with them is that they generate 124 vac, single phase only, so you really can't backfeed a house power panel with them.Â* I ran my furnace yesterday by pulling out the hot lead for the furnace circuit from the breaker in the house panel, wirenuted a power cord to it and ran the furnace for a while off the generator. You can backfeed one leg. You can also move things around on your Â* power panel to put all the circuts you want to use on that same Â* leg. You do need to try to keep the panel balanced. It's pretty Â* amazing that the little generator can do so much. It has it's limitations, power-wise but I am willing to deal with that because it's so quiet and can run all night providing power to essentials.Â* Can't see having a big, whole house generator for the number of times we lose power.Â* If necessary I can hook it up to the furnace and run it for a while. That said, I was just given a brand new, still in the box, 4800 watt generator that produces 240 volts.Â* Person who bought it never had to use it and doesn't need auxiliary power anymore.Â* Don't know what I am going to do with it yet, if anything, but the price was right.Â* Free. My brother was using a generator I gave to his step-son (Barry) after Wilma when Barry had a house in Florida.Â* Contractor type and I couldn't believe how freakin' noisy those things are.Â* He had it running in his driveway near the house and you had to shout to carry on a conversation. One of my neighbors down the street bought a "contractor" generator that he wheels out of his garage and hooks up when needed. It is really noisy. Mine sounds like a push gasoline lawnmower a few houses away. |
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"Mr. Luddite" Wrote in message:
On 3/15/2018 8:24 AM, justan wrote: "Mr. Luddite" Wrote in message: On 3/15/2018 2:01 AM, wrote: I bought my Honda in 2000 so it's coming up on 18 years old. Still runs great. Yeah, my neighbor bought his in 2000 also primarily for camping. 18 years old and it still runs like new. I've only changed the oil in mine twice in 12 years and it has many, many hours on it because the contractors used it daily for a summer to power the stone cutting saw when they were installing the bluestone for the pool. I figured it was a donation to the pool installation but, it still runs. Yesterday I checked the oil level. It's supposed to shut down if the oil drops too low. Oil was still full on the little dipstick. I also pulled the spark plug recently figuring that after all the hours on it the plug probably needed to be replaced. Nope. Electrodes were still in great shape and even the gap was per spec. Amazing little generator. The only problem with them is that they generate 124 vac, single phase only, so you really can't backfeed a house power panel with them. I ran my furnace yesterday by pulling out the hot lead for the furnace circuit from the breaker in the house panel, wirenuted a power cord to it and ran the furnace for a while off the generator. You can backfeed one leg. You can also move things around on your power panel to put all the circuts you want to use on that same leg. You do need to try to keep the panel balanced. It's pretty amazing that the little generator can do so much. It has it's limitations, power-wise but I am willing to deal with that because it's so quiet and can run all night providing power to essentials. Can't see having a big, whole house generator for the number of times we lose power. If necessary I can hook it up to the furnace and run it for a while. That said, I was just given a brand new, still in the box, 4800 watt generator that produces 240 volts. Person who bought it never had to use it and doesn't need auxiliary power anymore. Don't know what I am going to do with it yet, if anything, but the price was right. Free. My brother was using a generator I gave to his step-son (Barry) after Wilma when Barry had a house in Florida. Contractor type and I couldn't believe how freakin' noisy those things are. He had it running in his driveway near the house and you had to shout to carry on a conversation. I'll bet you could sell it right now and get a good price. I'll be selling my 6500w gas generator next time there is an extended power outage in the area. I've had to clean out the carb 3 times since I bought it in 2004. -- x ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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On 3/15/2018 8:45 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/15/18 8:41 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 3/15/2018 8:24 AM, justan wrote: "Mr. Luddite" Wrote in message: On 3/15/2018 2:01 AM, wrote: I bought my Honda in 2000 so it's coming up on 18 years old. Still runs great. Yeah, my neighbor bought his in 2000 also primarily for camping. 18 years old and it still runs like new. I've only changed the oil in mine twice in 12 years and it has many, many hours on it because the contractors used it daily for a summer to power the stone cutting saw when they were installing the bluestone for the pool.Â* I figured it was a donation to the pool installation but, it still runs. Yesterday I checked the oil level.Â* It's supposed to shut down if the oil drops too low.Â* Oil was still full on the little dipstick. I also pulled the spark plug recently figuring that after all the hours on it the plug probably needed to be replaced.Â* Nope.Â* Electrodes were still in great shape and even the gap was per spec. Amazing little generator.Â* The only problem with them is that they generate 124 vac, single phase only, so you really can't backfeed a house power panel with them.Â* I ran my furnace yesterday by pulling out the hot lead for the furnace circuit from the breaker in the house panel, wirenuted a power cord to it and ran the furnace for a while off the generator. You can backfeed one leg. You can also move things around on your Â* power panel to put all the circuts you want to use on that same Â* leg. You do need to try to keep the panel balanced. It's pretty Â* amazing that the little generator can do so much. It has it's limitations, power-wise but I am willing to deal with that because it's so quiet and can run all night providing power to essentials.Â* Can't see having a big, whole house generator for the number of times we lose power.Â* If necessary I can hook it up to the furnace and run it for a while. That said, I was just given a brand new, still in the box, 4800 watt generator that produces 240 volts.Â* Person who bought it never had to use it and doesn't need auxiliary power anymore.Â* Don't know what I am going to do with it yet, if anything, but the price was right.Â* Free. My brother was using a generator I gave to his step-son (Barry) after Wilma when Barry had a house in Florida.Â* Contractor type and I couldn't believe how freakin' noisy those things are.Â* He had it running in his driveway near the house and you had to shout to carry on a conversation. One of my neighbors down the street bought a "contractor" generator that he wheels out of his garage and hooks up when needed. It is really noisy. Mine sounds like a push gasoline lawnmower a few houses away. The whole house generators are nice because they are so well insulated for noise. I had the little Honda running right outside the bedroom last night. I really couldn't hear it at all. Had to check the light on the space heater at night to make sure it was running. |
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On 3/15/2018 8:50 AM, justan wrote:
"Mr. Luddite" Wrote in message: On 3/15/2018 8:24 AM, justan wrote: "Mr. Luddite" Wrote in message: On 3/15/2018 2:01 AM, wrote: I bought my Honda in 2000 so it's coming up on 18 years old. Still runs great. Yeah, my neighbor bought his in 2000 also primarily for camping. 18 years old and it still runs like new. I've only changed the oil in mine twice in 12 years and it has many, many hours on it because the contractors used it daily for a summer to power the stone cutting saw when they were installing the bluestone for the pool. I figured it was a donation to the pool installation but, it still runs. Yesterday I checked the oil level. It's supposed to shut down if the oil drops too low. Oil was still full on the little dipstick. I also pulled the spark plug recently figuring that after all the hours on it the plug probably needed to be replaced. Nope. Electrodes were still in great shape and even the gap was per spec. Amazing little generator. The only problem with them is that they generate 124 vac, single phase only, so you really can't backfeed a house power panel with them. I ran my furnace yesterday by pulling out the hot lead for the furnace circuit from the breaker in the house panel, wirenuted a power cord to it and ran the furnace for a while off the generator. You can backfeed one leg. You can also move things around on your power panel to put all the circuts you want to use on that same leg. You do need to try to keep the panel balanced. It's pretty amazing that the little generator can do so much. It has it's limitations, power-wise but I am willing to deal with that because it's so quiet and can run all night providing power to essentials. Can't see having a big, whole house generator for the number of times we lose power. If necessary I can hook it up to the furnace and run it for a while. That said, I was just given a brand new, still in the box, 4800 watt generator that produces 240 volts. Person who bought it never had to use it and doesn't need auxiliary power anymore. Don't know what I am going to do with it yet, if anything, but the price was right. Free. My brother was using a generator I gave to his step-son (Barry) after Wilma when Barry had a house in Florida. Contractor type and I couldn't believe how freakin' noisy those things are. He had it running in his driveway near the house and you had to shout to carry on a conversation. I'll bet you could sell it right now and get a good price. I'll be selling my 6500w gas generator next time there is an extended power outage in the area. I've had to clean out the carb 3 times since I bought it in 2004. Yeah, I learned about the bigger ones in Florida. I think the one I bought and backfed the power panel with un Anna's "Ranch House" was either a 12,500 watt or a 14,500 watt. It worked fine although very noisy but when I realized how much gas it was going through I shut it off other than for an hour every day and just used the little Honda to survive for the week plus we were without power. You know my brother. He's the type that moths fly out of his wallet when he opens it. We were trying to talk over the din of the generator that Barry let him use and I was telling him that he should check out some of the inverter types ... Honda, Yamaha, etc., and said that besides being quiet, they sip gas compared to the one he was using. I mentioned that the Honda will run all night powering a space heater, TV and refrig. He said the one he is using will almost run all night also. But he forgot to realize the one Barry let him use has a 5 gallon gas tank. The Honda is about 1 gallon. |
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On Thu, 15 Mar 2018 07:59:08 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 3/15/2018 2:01 AM, wrote: I bought my Honda in 2000 so it's coming up on 18 years old. Still runs great. Yeah, my neighbor bought his in 2000 also primarily for camping. 18 years old and it still runs like new. I've only changed the oil in mine twice in 12 years and it has many, many hours on it because the contractors used it daily for a summer to power the stone cutting saw when they were installing the bluestone for the pool. I figured it was a donation to the pool installation but, it still runs. Yesterday I checked the oil level. It's supposed to shut down if the oil drops too low. Oil was still full on the little dipstick. I also pulled the spark plug recently figuring that after all the hours on it the plug probably needed to be replaced. Nope. Electrodes were still in great shape and even the gap was per spec. Amazing little generator. The only problem with them is that they generate 124 vac, single phase only, so you really can't backfeed a house power panel with them. I ran my furnace yesterday by pulling out the hot lead for the furnace circuit from the breaker in the house panel, wirenuted a power cord to it and ran the furnace for a while off the generator. This was a good discussion. Made me get off my ass and start mine. Plug looked brand new. Haven't had near as much use as yours though. |
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On Wed, 14 Mar 2018 09:14:04 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote: They say my EU2000i generator was flooded. They drained the carb and supposidly all is well. I'll try it tomorrow when these heavy winds die down. BTW..didn't realize that the unit pumps more gas in each time you pull the starter cord... no wonder it got flooded. The question is...why did it die after running for 2 or three minutes. Maybe I eased the choke back a bit and turned on the 'Econo' mode before it was fully warmed up. Mechanic sys to run it each week and counter guy now says to swap out gas for fresh hi test on a monthly basis. D'oh..if I had realized how much trouble these things are for extremely low usage, I might have invested in a few big batteries and a good inverter. Maybe you just need to get a little more practice. Now that you know it floods easy stay away from the choke. The way to unflood an engine is to open the throttle all the way and crank it. In fact that is how you start a Harley, Flood it, open the throttle and give it a kick. Nobody uses the choke. I still recommend a propane kit. Get in touch with US Carburation and see if they have a kit for your Honda. For extended outages you can still use gasoline but the propane eliminates the fuel problems, gummy carbs etc. |
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On Thursday, 15 March 2018 12:34:54 UTC-3, wrote:
On Wed, 14 Mar 2018 09:14:04 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote: They say my EU2000i generator was flooded. They drained the carb and supposidly all is well. I'll try it tomorrow when these heavy winds die down.. BTW..didn't realize that the unit pumps more gas in each time you pull the starter cord... no wonder it got flooded. The question is...why did it die after running for 2 or three minutes. Maybe I eased the choke back a bit and turned on the 'Econo' mode before it was fully warmed up. Mechanic sys to run it each week and counter guy now says to swap out gas for fresh hi test on a monthly basis. D'oh..if I had realized how much trouble these things are for extremely low usage, I might have invested in a few big batteries and a good inverter. Maybe you just need to get a little more practice. Now that you know it floods easy stay away from the choke. The way to unflood an engine is to open the throttle all the way and crank it. In fact that is how you start a Harley, Flood it, open the throttle and give it a kick. Nobody uses the choke. I still recommend a propane kit. Get in touch with US Carburation and see if they have a kit for your Honda. For extended outages you can still use gasoline but the propane eliminates the fuel problems, gummy carbs etc. After paying $1600.00 including taxes, PDI and Delivery, I'm not sinking anything more into it. If it doesn't work today...back to the Honda dealer 10-15 minute drive away. Up until December 31 they were two city blocks away from me...I could have been their worst nightmare. ;-) |
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just got back from Honda dealership...
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/15/2018 2:01 AM, wrote: I bought my Honda in 2000 so it's coming up on 18 years old. Still runs great. Yeah, my neighbor bought his in 2000 also primarily for camping. 18 years old and it still runs like new. I've only changed the oil in mine twice in 12 years and it has many, many hours on it because the contractors used it daily for a summer to power the stone cutting saw when they were installing the bluestone for the pool. I figured it was a donation to the pool installation but, it still runs. Yesterday I checked the oil level. It's supposed to shut down if the oil drops too low. Oil was still full on the little dipstick. I also pulled the spark plug recently figuring that after all the hours on it the plug probably needed to be replaced. Nope. Electrodes were still in great shape and even the gap was per spec. Amazing little generator. The only problem with them is that they generate 124 vac, single phase only, so you really can't backfeed a house power panel with them. I ran my furnace yesterday by pulling out the hot lead for the furnace circuit from the breaker in the house panel, wirenuted a power cord to it and ran the furnace for a while off the generator. I have a Yamaha for the camper. Other than having to clean the carb last year, runs well. Do not use it much camping, maybe 6 hours total in 2 years. Have had it 5 years, figure when the big earthquake comes, I will have power. And boat fuel tank will supply a out of gas. |
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On Wed, 14 Mar 2018 14:11:29 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote: True North "Something doesn’t sound right. I’m thinking the carbs needle valve may have stuck flooding the engine, but it running for a while makes no sense. And changing out the gas every time you turn around seem ridiculous too. Now that you’re home with it have you tried it? I’m wondering if it’s possible to have a defective coil that malfunctions when it’s warm. Whatever it is Don, I don’t think it’s on your end. I think it needs checked out under a load..." I'll try the Honda tomorrow.....any problems and back it goes. I re-visited the manual and it gives about 4 options depending on how often the unit will be used. I'll probably do the long term storage option of running the unit until it stops on Seafoam treated high octane gas and then using my hand pump to empty the tank, then using a drain plug on the carb bottom to remove any gas there. Next I'll remove the spark plug to either spray the cylinder or put a couple teaspoons of oil in, then pulling the starter to distribute and loosely replace the spark plug. Illkeep a couple liters of treated high test on hand in a small jug..swapping that into the Highlander every month or so. ... Something tells me they got it runn No for s few second and shut it off. That’s no test. If they’re selling generators they should have the equipment to simulate a load for it and put it through the paces. Don, I wouldn’t be surprised if it doesn’t screw up again... On a generator like that a space heater or a hair dryer is a pretty good dummy load. I used my oven to load up my 5.5 KW for the tests Wayne and others wanted me to try (scope the wave form, compare propane to gas performance etc) That really runs it at close to full rated load. A hair dryer or a space heater will be 1200w to 1440w from my experience. (Do not believe those labels on hair dryers. They lie). That should be enough to test a 2kw generator tho. |
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On Thu, 15 Mar 2018 08:41:06 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: On 3/15/2018 8:24 AM, justan wrote: "Mr. Luddite" Wrote in message: On 3/15/2018 2:01 AM, wrote: I bought my Honda in 2000 so it's coming up on 18 years old. Still runs great. Yeah, my neighbor bought his in 2000 also primarily for camping. 18 years old and it still runs like new. I've only changed the oil in mine twice in 12 years and it has many, many hours on it because the contractors used it daily for a summer to power the stone cutting saw when they were installing the bluestone for the pool. I figured it was a donation to the pool installation but, it still runs. Yesterday I checked the oil level. It's supposed to shut down if the oil drops too low. Oil was still full on the little dipstick. I also pulled the spark plug recently figuring that after all the hours on it the plug probably needed to be replaced. Nope. Electrodes were still in great shape and even the gap was per spec. Amazing little generator. The only problem with them is that they generate 124 vac, single phase only, so you really can't backfeed a house power panel with them. I ran my furnace yesterday by pulling out the hot lead for the furnace circuit from the breaker in the house panel, wirenuted a power cord to it and ran the furnace for a while off the generator. You can backfeed one leg. You can also move things around on your power panel to put all the circuts you want to use on that same leg. You do need to try to keep the panel balanced. It's pretty amazing that the little generator can do so much. It has it's limitations, power-wise but I am willing to deal with that because it's so quiet and can run all night providing power to essentials. Can't see having a big, whole house generator for the number of times we lose power. If necessary I can hook it up to the furnace and run it for a while. That said, I was just given a brand new, still in the box, 4800 watt generator that produces 240 volts. Person who bought it never had to use it and doesn't need auxiliary power anymore. Don't know what I am going to do with it yet, if anything, but the price was right. Free. My brother was using a generator I gave to his step-son (Barry) after Wilma when Barry had a house in Florida. Contractor type and I couldn't believe how freakin' noisy those things are. He had it running in his driveway near the house and you had to shout to carry on a conversation. I have one of those, 5.5 Briggs. I figured out if you hang mover's blankets around it, you knock that noise way down. Just be sure it can breathe and the exhaust is not pointing at the blanket. Places like Harbor Fright sell those blankets for $7 or so. They are handy for other things too. |
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On Thu, 15 Mar 2018 09:01:48 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: On 3/15/2018 8:50 AM, justan wrote: "Mr. Luddite" Wrote in message: On 3/15/2018 8:24 AM, justan wrote: "Mr. Luddite" Wrote in message: On 3/15/2018 2:01 AM, wrote: I bought my Honda in 2000 so it's coming up on 18 years old. Still runs great. Yeah, my neighbor bought his in 2000 also primarily for camping. 18 years old and it still runs like new. I've only changed the oil in mine twice in 12 years and it has many, many hours on it because the contractors used it daily for a summer to power the stone cutting saw when they were installing the bluestone for the pool. I figured it was a donation to the pool installation but, it still runs. Yesterday I checked the oil level. It's supposed to shut down if the oil drops too low. Oil was still full on the little dipstick. I also pulled the spark plug recently figuring that after all the hours on it the plug probably needed to be replaced. Nope. Electrodes were still in great shape and even the gap was per spec. Amazing little generator. The only problem with them is that they generate 124 vac, single phase only, so you really can't backfeed a house power panel with them. I ran my furnace yesterday by pulling out the hot lead for the furnace circuit from the breaker in the house panel, wirenuted a power cord to it and ran the furnace for a while off the generator. You can backfeed one leg. You can also move things around on your power panel to put all the circuts you want to use on that same leg. You do need to try to keep the panel balanced. It's pretty amazing that the little generator can do so much. It has it's limitations, power-wise but I am willing to deal with that because it's so quiet and can run all night providing power to essentials. Can't see having a big, whole house generator for the number of times we lose power. If necessary I can hook it up to the furnace and run it for a while. That said, I was just given a brand new, still in the box, 4800 watt generator that produces 240 volts. Person who bought it never had to use it and doesn't need auxiliary power anymore. Don't know what I am going to do with it yet, if anything, but the price was right. Free. My brother was using a generator I gave to his step-son (Barry) after Wilma when Barry had a house in Florida. Contractor type and I couldn't believe how freakin' noisy those things are. He had it running in his driveway near the house and you had to shout to carry on a conversation. I'll bet you could sell it right now and get a good price. I'll be selling my 6500w gas generator next time there is an extended power outage in the area. I've had to clean out the carb 3 times since I bought it in 2004. Yeah, I learned about the bigger ones in Florida. I think the one I bought and backfed the power panel with un Anna's "Ranch House" was either a 12,500 watt or a 14,500 watt. It worked fine although very noisy but when I realized how much gas it was going through I shut it off other than for an hour every day and just used the little Honda to survive for the week plus we were without power. You know my brother. He's the type that moths fly out of his wallet when he opens it. We were trying to talk over the din of the generator that Barry let him use and I was telling him that he should check out some of the inverter types ... Honda, Yamaha, etc., and said that besides being quiet, they sip gas compared to the one he was using. I mentioned that the Honda will run all night powering a space heater, TV and refrig. He said the one he is using will almost run all night also. But he forgot to realize the one Barry let him use has a 5 gallon gas tank. The Honda is about 1 gallon. You might run a couple days on a 20# propane bottle if that is true. This may be an interesting conversion for you. http://www.uscarburetion.com/eu2000i_kits.htm There are different regulators for running off a portable bottle, a big tank or a natural gas line but those folks are pretty good about selling you just what you need. |
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On 3/15/2018 2:11 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 15 Mar 2018 09:01:48 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 3/15/2018 8:50 AM, justan wrote: "Mr. Luddite" Wrote in message: On 3/15/2018 8:24 AM, justan wrote: "Mr. Luddite" Wrote in message: On 3/15/2018 2:01 AM, wrote: I bought my Honda in 2000 so it's coming up on 18 years old. Still runs great. Yeah, my neighbor bought his in 2000 also primarily for camping. 18 years old and it still runs like new. I've only changed the oil in mine twice in 12 years and it has many, many hours on it because the contractors used it daily for a summer to power the stone cutting saw when they were installing the bluestone for the pool. I figured it was a donation to the pool installation but, it still runs. Yesterday I checked the oil level. It's supposed to shut down if the oil drops too low. Oil was still full on the little dipstick. I also pulled the spark plug recently figuring that after all the hours on it the plug probably needed to be replaced. Nope. Electrodes were still in great shape and even the gap was per spec. Amazing little generator. The only problem with them is that they generate 124 vac, single phase only, so you really can't backfeed a house power panel with them. I ran my furnace yesterday by pulling out the hot lead for the furnace circuit from the breaker in the house panel, wirenuted a power cord to it and ran the furnace for a while off the generator. You can backfeed one leg. You can also move things around on your power panel to put all the circuts you want to use on that same leg. You do need to try to keep the panel balanced. It's pretty amazing that the little generator can do so much. It has it's limitations, power-wise but I am willing to deal with that because it's so quiet and can run all night providing power to essentials. Can't see having a big, whole house generator for the number of times we lose power. If necessary I can hook it up to the furnace and run it for a while. That said, I was just given a brand new, still in the box, 4800 watt generator that produces 240 volts. Person who bought it never had to use it and doesn't need auxiliary power anymore. Don't know what I am going to do with it yet, if anything, but the price was right. Free. My brother was using a generator I gave to his step-son (Barry) after Wilma when Barry had a house in Florida. Contractor type and I couldn't believe how freakin' noisy those things are. He had it running in his driveway near the house and you had to shout to carry on a conversation. I'll bet you could sell it right now and get a good price. I'll be selling my 6500w gas generator next time there is an extended power outage in the area. I've had to clean out the carb 3 times since I bought it in 2004. Yeah, I learned about the bigger ones in Florida. I think the one I bought and backfed the power panel with un Anna's "Ranch House" was either a 12,500 watt or a 14,500 watt. It worked fine although very noisy but when I realized how much gas it was going through I shut it off other than for an hour every day and just used the little Honda to survive for the week plus we were without power. You know my brother. He's the type that moths fly out of his wallet when he opens it. We were trying to talk over the din of the generator that Barry let him use and I was telling him that he should check out some of the inverter types ... Honda, Yamaha, etc., and said that besides being quiet, they sip gas compared to the one he was using. I mentioned that the Honda will run all night powering a space heater, TV and refrig. He said the one he is using will almost run all night also. But he forgot to realize the one Barry let him use has a 5 gallon gas tank. The Honda is about 1 gallon. You might run a couple days on a 20# propane bottle if that is true. This may be an interesting conversion for you. http://www.uscarburetion.com/eu2000i_kits.htm There are different regulators for running off a portable bottle, a big tank or a natural gas line but those folks are pretty good about selling you just what you need. That's an interesting idea. I have one reservation though. The eu2000i is only rated for 1600 watts (continuous) and 2000 watts "surge". Those are ratings for gasoline. I suspect that running on propane would lower those ratings. True? |
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just got back from Honda dealership...
On Thu, 15 Mar 2018 15:54:16 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: On 3/15/2018 2:11 PM, wrote: You might run a couple days on a 20# propane bottle if that is true. This may be an interesting conversion for you. http://www.uscarburetion.com/eu2000i_kits.htm There are different regulators for running off a portable bottle, a big tank or a natural gas line but those folks are pretty good about selling you just what you need. That's an interesting idea. I have one reservation though. The eu2000i is only rated for 1600 watts (continuous) and 2000 watts "surge". Those are ratings for gasoline. I suspect that running on propane would lower those ratings. True? I certainly could not see that on my 5.5kw Briggs. I handled 5.3kw (my oven) on both gasoline and propane with virtually no difference. http://gfretwell.com/Propaneproject/Ongasoline.jpg http://gfretwell.com/Propaneproject/Onpropane.jpg http://gfretwell.com/Propaneproject/Waveform.jpg The energy penalty comes in fuel burn, not performance from what I see. I burn about 1.6x the amount of propane, compared to gasoline so the laws of thermodynamics are satisfied. |
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On Thursday, March 15, 2018 at 6:21:42 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Thu, 15 Mar 2018 15:54:16 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 3/15/2018 2:11 PM, wrote: You might run a couple days on a 20# propane bottle if that is true. This may be an interesting conversion for you. http://www.uscarburetion.com/eu2000i_kits.htm There are different regulators for running off a portable bottle, a big tank or a natural gas line but those folks are pretty good about selling you just what you need. That's an interesting idea. I have one reservation though. The eu2000i is only rated for 1600 watts (continuous) and 2000 watts "surge". Those are ratings for gasoline. I suspect that running on propane would lower those ratings. True? I certainly could not see that on my 5.5kw Briggs. I handled 5.3kw (my oven) on both gasoline and propane with virtually no difference. http://gfretwell.com/Propaneproject/Ongasoline.jpg http://gfretwell.com/Propaneproject/Onpropane.jpg http://gfretwell.com/Propaneproject/Waveform.jpg Ah, a Fluke 8060A multimeter. My favorite... I have one in my desk drawer. Accurate, and measures dB directly (on a 600 ohm balanced pair) which was good for me. Interesting that IBM had Fluke private label for them. |
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True North wrote:
On Thursday, 15 March 2018 12:34:54 UTC-3, wrote: On Wed, 14 Mar 2018 09:14:04 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote: They say my EU2000i generator was flooded. They drained the carb and supposidly all is well. I'll try it tomorrow when these heavy winds die down. BTW..didn't realize that the unit pumps more gas in each time you pull the starter cord... no wonder it got flooded. The question is...why did it die after running for 2 or three minutes. Maybe I eased the choke back a bit and turned on the 'Econo' mode before it was fully warmed up. Mechanic sys to run it each week and counter guy now says to swap out gas for fresh hi test on a monthly basis. D'oh..if I had realized how much trouble these things are for extremely low usage, I might have invested in a few big batteries and a good inverter. Maybe you just need to get a little more practice. Now that you know it floods easy stay away from the choke. The way to unflood an engine is to open the throttle all the way and crank it. In fact that is how you start a Harley, Flood it, open the throttle and give it a kick. Nobody uses the choke. I still recommend a propane kit. Get in touch with US Carburation and see if they have a kit for your Honda. For extended outages you can still use gasoline but the propane eliminates the fuel problems, gummy carbs etc. After paying $1600.00 including taxes, PDI and Delivery, I'm not sinking anything more into it. If it doesn't work today...back to the Honda dealer 10-15 minute drive away. Up until December 31 they were two city blocks away from me...I could have been their worst nightmare. ;-) You paid to have it delivered? |
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Like a car dealer, that charge covers shipping charges from manufacturer to dealer.
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On Thu, 15 Mar 2018 15:38:53 -0700 (PDT), Its Me
wrote: On Thursday, March 15, 2018 at 6:21:42 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Thu, 15 Mar 2018 15:54:16 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 3/15/2018 2:11 PM, wrote: You might run a couple days on a 20# propane bottle if that is true. This may be an interesting conversion for you. http://www.uscarburetion.com/eu2000i_kits.htm There are different regulators for running off a portable bottle, a big tank or a natural gas line but those folks are pretty good about selling you just what you need. That's an interesting idea. I have one reservation though. The eu2000i is only rated for 1600 watts (continuous) and 2000 watts "surge". Those are ratings for gasoline. I suspect that running on propane would lower those ratings. True? I certainly could not see that on my 5.5kw Briggs. I handled 5.3kw (my oven) on both gasoline and propane with virtually no difference. http://gfretwell.com/Propaneproject/Ongasoline.jpg http://gfretwell.com/Propaneproject/Onpropane.jpg http://gfretwell.com/Propaneproject/Waveform.jpg Ah, a Fluke 8060A multimeter. My favorite... I have one in my desk drawer. Accurate, and measures dB directly (on a 600 ohm balanced pair) which was good for me. Interesting that IBM had Fluke private label for them. They bought a few thousand, same with the Tektronics scopes. I bet we had more like 10,000 of those Tektronics 453s. I do think the 8060A was originally built to spec for us tho, at least that was what they said when we got the first ones. We had a use for every scale. |
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True North wrote:
Like a car dealer, that charge covers shipping charges from manufacturer to dealer. Like a toaster, they don't charge $50 shipping to smart people. |
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On Thursday, March 15, 2018 at 8:03:23 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Thu, 15 Mar 2018 15:38:53 -0700 (PDT), Its Me wrote: On Thursday, March 15, 2018 at 6:21:42 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Thu, 15 Mar 2018 15:54:16 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 3/15/2018 2:11 PM, wrote: You might run a couple days on a 20# propane bottle if that is true.. This may be an interesting conversion for you. http://www.uscarburetion.com/eu2000i_kits.htm There are different regulators for running off a portable bottle, a big tank or a natural gas line but those folks are pretty good about selling you just what you need. That's an interesting idea. I have one reservation though. The eu2000i is only rated for 1600 watts (continuous) and 2000 watts "surge". Those are ratings for gasoline. I suspect that running on propane would lower those ratings. True? I certainly could not see that on my 5.5kw Briggs. I handled 5.3kw (my oven) on both gasoline and propane with virtually no difference. http://gfretwell.com/Propaneproject/Ongasoline.jpg http://gfretwell.com/Propaneproject/Onpropane.jpg http://gfretwell.com/Propaneproject/Waveform.jpg Ah, a Fluke 8060A multimeter. My favorite... I have one in my desk drawer. Accurate, and measures dB directly (on a 600 ohm balanced pair) which was good for me. Interesting that IBM had Fluke private label for them. They bought a few thousand, same with the Tektronics scopes. I bet we had more like 10,000 of those Tektronics 453s. I do think the 8060A was originally built to spec for us tho, at least that was what they said when we got the first ones. We had a use for every scale. Working on computers and printers, you had a use for RMS voltage, dB and frequency measurements? I could see maybe frequency, but audio levels escapes me. They are extremely useful when setting up communication systems. Setting audio levels, compressors, etc. |
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On Thu, 15 Mar 2018 17:36:48 -0700 (PDT), Its Me
wrote: On Thursday, March 15, 2018 at 8:03:23 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Thu, 15 Mar 2018 15:38:53 -0700 (PDT), Its Me wrote: On Thursday, March 15, 2018 at 6:21:42 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Thu, 15 Mar 2018 15:54:16 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 3/15/2018 2:11 PM, wrote: You might run a couple days on a 20# propane bottle if that is true. This may be an interesting conversion for you. http://www.uscarburetion.com/eu2000i_kits.htm There are different regulators for running off a portable bottle, a big tank or a natural gas line but those folks are pretty good about selling you just what you need. That's an interesting idea. I have one reservation though. The eu2000i is only rated for 1600 watts (continuous) and 2000 watts "surge". Those are ratings for gasoline. I suspect that running on propane would lower those ratings. True? I certainly could not see that on my 5.5kw Briggs. I handled 5.3kw (my oven) on both gasoline and propane with virtually no difference. http://gfretwell.com/Propaneproject/Ongasoline.jpg http://gfretwell.com/Propaneproject/Onpropane.jpg http://gfretwell.com/Propaneproject/Waveform.jpg Ah, a Fluke 8060A multimeter. My favorite... I have one in my desk drawer. Accurate, and measures dB directly (on a 600 ohm balanced pair) which was good for me. Interesting that IBM had Fluke private label for them. They bought a few thousand, same with the Tektronics scopes. I bet we had more like 10,000 of those Tektronics 453s. I do think the 8060A was originally built to spec for us tho, at least that was what they said when we got the first ones. We had a use for every scale. Working on computers and printers, you had a use for RMS voltage, dB and frequency measurements? I could see maybe frequency, but audio levels escapes me. They are extremely useful when setting up communication systems. Setting audio levels, compressors, etc. Frequency was handy when you were not sure if you were on a 60hz bus or a 400 hz bus and we had plenty of communication equipment, back when you actually had to fix it. The IBM modem had about a dozen cards in it. we were always fighting with Ma Bell, in the days when nothing was ever their fault. I spent 3 weeks in Dallas learning what the data guys at Ma Bell were supposed to know. We could put their ma bell modems in loop back from the other end and stuff like that. Actually getting the dB levels we were giving them and what they were sending back was helpful. We also had the tools to trap and analyse the data going in and coming out. You could also emulate either the central site or the remote site with our data tool (a pretty big processor in a suitcase with just about every data protocol you would see.) The tool I didn't have was the one they use to look at phase distortion on the pair(s) but by the time I got that far, we usually had the nails in the coffin. (the problem is between point A and B, your wires and this is how I know). The frustrating thing was about the time when we really had the training and tools to fix TP problems, the phone networks went all digital/fiber and those problems pretty much went away. Our equipment ended up being one card so there was not much to fix there either. We went from maintaining data networks to backing up data networks. The thing that became the cloud. |
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