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Bill[_12_] February 27th 18 04:25 AM

Amazon prime TV
 
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 2/26/18 8:56 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/26/2018 8:42 PM, Bill wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/26/2018 5:53 PM, Bill wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Mon, 26 Feb 2018 11:52:26 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 2/26/2018 11:34 AM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 26 Feb 2018 11:26:30 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 2/26/2018 11:18 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 26 Feb 2018 08:00:25 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 2/26/2018 7:48 AM, justan wrote:
"Mr. Luddite" Wrote in message:
On 2/25/2018 10:33 PM,
wrote:
I am really serious about cutting the cord. My wife says
after the
olympics but that was today.
I am already transitioning to streaming, I am working my
way through
the Amazon Prime documentaries They have just about
anything that PBS
ever aired. I talked about the American Experience show
about the MLK
assassination the other day. Today I am watching Frontline
season 27
ep 8. This is contemporary with the 2009 crash and it is
pretty
interesting, carving through some of the myths we may have.



I occasionally watch something from Amazon Prime's
inventory.* My large
HD TV is not "smart" (connected to the Internet) so I use
the Sony PS4
to stream stuff from Amazon.* Their prime account entitles
you to many
movies and archived shows as you mention for free.

I can also access Hulu, Netfix and other sources but I don't
watch
enough to bother with them.




Smart tvs are cheap nowadays. I paid 800 for a 60 inch smart
plasma tv at good old Walmart. A side benefit is that I can heat
the house with it.



Mine can become "smart" if I buy a Roku wireless streaming
stick that
plugs into the TV's USB port.* It's a 65" and I bought it
before having
Internet connectivity became built-in on most TVs.* Accessing
the 'net
via the PS4 is just as effective and it works fine.* I just
don't watch
TV enough to warrant buying another TV just for built-in Internet
connectivity.* Most of the time I just use a little 23" HD TV
that sits
on my desk beside my computer monitor.


Just hook an old PC to it. With a 2.4gz wireless mouse you end
up with
a TV that is a whole lot smarter than the ones sold as smart.
We have
both here. The PC connected wins every time in every category.
The best combo seems to be my "travel" laptop connected to some no
name TV. When the lap top turns off the TV goes to sleep and I
have it
set to hibernate when you close the lid. Open the lid, the pc
comes to
life and the TV comes on.
You can get to any streaming service that way along with being
able to
play music or look at your pictures using whatever PC app you
like.



I don't collect or save old PCs.* When they crap out or become so
obsolete they can't run current apps efficiently I buy a new
one.* I
"do" have an older Win 7 laptop that I no longer use regularly
but I
keep it as a backup or possible traveling computer.* Somewhere I
have an
old XP laptop as well but it is painfully slow compared to Win 7
and Win
10.* I wouldn't even bother with it.


Besides, the little Roku thingy is much smaller and easier to
mess with.



I still don't really understand how people who want to get rid of
services like Comcast cable TV and Internet and go to streaming
only are
going to have access to the Internet.

I think I posted the results of the tests I did that compared
download
speeds of AT&T's 4G WiFi service that I have in my truck and the
download speeds of the Comcast (cable) WiFi router in my house.
Comcast
was consistently 3 to 4 times faster, sometimes even more.* The AT&T
test (I did several for each)* often reported that although web
browsing
would be ok, videos may be slow, especially if more than one
device was
connected to the WiFi server.* The Comcast speed report consistently
said that it's speed would allow web browsing and HD video
downloads to
several devices at the same time.

For me, cutting the cord would be cutting the TV and telephone
cords. The
internet cord would stay
whole. The TV cord is over $100/month, and that's without a bunch of
movie channels. The telephone
cord is another $40/month.


My Comcast deal is 2 years and is about $135 a month.** TV, bunch of
channels, most I never watch, internet and home phone.** 3 TV’s.
Phone
went from ATT of $24 and a bunch of taxes to $10.* Extra TV’s add I
think
$5 each for $10.** One TV the X1 box.


That seems to be the going rate around here for all those services.

I pay $73 a month for expanded basic cable TV, a HD DVR box, two small
HD cable boxes and Internet service.* No phone service and no extra cost
channels.* Four TV's but one is set up like the following:

My little "office" is on the other side of a wall from the living room
where the 65" TV and the large HD/DVR cable box is located.* I have a
small, 23" HD TV on my desk beside my computer monitor. Rather than rent
another small HD cable box from Comcast,* I bought a HDMI switch box for
cheap bucks and ran a HDMI cable through the wall from the living room
to the office room.* When I want to watch the TV in the office, I just
switch the HDMI switch box to the "B" position and it sends the signal
from the cable box to the little TV in the office. If I want to watch
the big TV,* I just put the switch in the "A" position.

Then, I added a remote control thing to change the channels from the
office.* It has a LED that mounts near the sensor on the cable box and a
receiver in the office room that you point the cable box remote control
at.* It duplicates the IR signal from the "clicker" on the LED mounted
near the sensor on the cable box in the living room.** Works great.

It's funny that with three smaller HD TVs, I rarely watch the big one
anymore.* It's great for football games and baseball but I usually end
up watching them on the small ones also.








The big TV, 40” :).* Is in the family room with the X1 box.** Is a
smart Tv
as the old one died last year.** But the other two are in the breakfast
area, so wife can watch while in kitchen and the other is in the office
/sewing room.** I could put a switch in, but wife is technologically
challenged.



So am I now-a-days.* I just bought a WiFi outdoor security camera.* I
didn't want "Ring" or "Nest" or "Google Home" versions that you have to
set up an account for.* Just a simple WiFi camera that will connect to
the home network.* It's made by a company called MyDlink.

Anyway, first thing I found out is that Firefox no longer supports it
and I use Firefox exclusively and not the Microsoft Edge browser.* So, I
decided to access it via my phone.* I downloaded the Android "MYDLINK
app. as instructed, it found and connected to my WiFI router but it
doesn't work.* Keep getting error messages saying the video was "lost".
Don't know why.

Reloaded everything again ... same thing.* Gave up for now.* I'll try
again tomorrow.



A shot in the dark...many routers offer two different bands on different
frequencies. Perhaps your wi-fi camera wants one band and not the other.
The camera or its software might connect, but it won't work.


I am looking at the Lorex system.


Bill[_12_] February 27th 18 04:25 AM

Amazon prime TV
 
wrote:
On Mon, 26 Feb 2018 17:01:03 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 2/26/18 4:55 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 26 Feb 2018 13:55:36 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Mon, 26 Feb 2018 13:46:05 -0500,
wrote:
.

What could be easier than a mouse and a real keyboard for entering
things you want to search for? I hate trying to poke out text on a TV
remote.

With the Amazon thingy, you just talk to it. Haven't you been watching
the Olympics at all? The cute
little thing's name is 'Alexa'.

We have one, I won't have it on in the house. I don't need a spy
listening to everything I say and broadcasting it on the internet.


Hell, we can hear and see everything you do through your microwave. )


Maybe one of those new fangled ones but not mine.
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/microwave.jpg


That is even worse. No security updates.


[email protected] February 27th 18 05:20 AM

Amazon prime TV
 
On Mon, 26 Feb 2018 21:39:07 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 2/26/18 8:56 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:




So am I now-a-days.* I just bought a WiFi outdoor security camera.* I
didn't want "Ring" or "Nest" or "Google Home" versions that you have to
set up an account for.* Just a simple WiFi camera that will connect to
the home network.* It's made by a company called MyDlink.

Anyway, first thing I found out is that Firefox no longer supports it
and I use Firefox exclusively and not the Microsoft Edge browser.* So, I
decided to access it via my phone.* I downloaded the Android "MYDLINK
app. as instructed, it found and connected to my WiFI router but it
doesn't work.* Keep getting error messages saying the video was "lost".
Don't know why.

Reloaded everything again ... same thing.* Gave up for now.* I'll try
again tomorrow.



A shot in the dark...many routers offer two different bands on different
frequencies. Perhaps your wi-fi camera wants one band and not the other.
The camera or its software might connect, but it won't work.


Did you get the chance to enter the WiFi password and did that work?

Mr. Luddite[_4_] February 27th 18 09:43 AM

Amazon prime TV
 
On 2/27/2018 12:20 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 26 Feb 2018 21:39:07 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 2/26/18 8:56 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:




So am I now-a-days.* I just bought a WiFi outdoor security camera.* I
didn't want "Ring" or "Nest" or "Google Home" versions that you have to
set up an account for.* Just a simple WiFi camera that will connect to
the home network.* It's made by a company called MyDlink.

Anyway, first thing I found out is that Firefox no longer supports it
and I use Firefox exclusively and not the Microsoft Edge browser.* So, I
decided to access it via my phone.* I downloaded the Android "MYDLINK
app. as instructed, it found and connected to my WiFI router but it
doesn't work.* Keep getting error messages saying the video was "lost".
Don't know why.

Reloaded everything again ... same thing.* Gave up for now.* I'll try
again tomorrow.



A shot in the dark...many routers offer two different bands on different
frequencies. Perhaps your wi-fi camera wants one band and not the other.
The camera or its software might connect, but it won't work.


Did you get the chance to enter the WiFi password and did that work?



I think automatically connects similar to other devices like my wireless
printer. You get to a point in the setup and it tells you to depress
the button on the router and then a button on the back of the camera.
I did that and the blinking green light on the camera went to steady,
meaning it is connected.

There's a manual method as well. I may try that later today. Also, I
think Harry may be on to something. There were two "channel" options in
the setup., A and B. Didn't know which one to pick, so I tried A.
Maybe it wants "B".

Mr. Luddite[_4_] February 27th 18 09:47 AM

Amazon prime TV
 
On 2/26/2018 9:39 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 2/26/18 8:56 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:


So am I now-a-days.* I just bought a WiFi outdoor security camera.* I
didn't want "Ring" or "Nest" or "Google Home" versions that you have
to set up an account for.* Just a simple WiFi camera that will connect
to the home network.* It's made by a company called MyDlink.

Anyway, first thing I found out is that Firefox no longer supports it
and I use Firefox exclusively and not the Microsoft Edge browser.* So,
I decided to access it via my phone.* I downloaded the Android
"MYDLINK app. as instructed, it found and connected to my WiFI router
but it doesn't work.* Keep getting error messages saying the video was
"lost".
Don't know why.

Reloaded everything again ... same thing.* Gave up for now.* I'll try
again tomorrow.



A shot in the dark...many routers offer two different bands on different
frequencies. Perhaps your wi-fi camera wants one band and not the other.
The camera or its software might connect, but it won't work.



You may be on to something. At one point in the setup the instructions
ask you to pick "A" or "B" as a channel, but didn't offer any info as to
which one to pick. I picked "A". The camera connects to the network ok
but like I said, it keeps reporting "lost image", try again.

Might go get another camera with a 100 ft video output cable and be done
with it. :-)



Mr. Luddite[_4_] February 27th 18 09:54 AM

Amazon prime TV
 
On 2/26/2018 10:06 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 26 Feb 2018 20:56:56 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


So am I now-a-days. I just bought a WiFi outdoor security camera. I
didn't want "Ring" or "Nest" or "Google Home" versions that you have to
set up an account for. Just a simple WiFi camera that will connect to
the home network. It's made by a company called MyDlink.

Anyway, first thing I found out is that Firefox no longer supports it
and I use Firefox exclusively and not the Microsoft Edge browser. So, I
decided to access it via my phone. I downloaded the Android "MYDLINK
app. as instructed, it found and connected to my WiFI router but it
doesn't work. Keep getting error messages saying the video was "lost".
Don't know why.

Reloaded everything again ... same thing. Gave up for now. I'll try
again tomorrow.


My cameras go to a 4 channel, (expandable to 8) security type DVR. I
have a terrabyte of video I have never seen ;-)
I also have a box of X10 stuff I got from Ebay that I have never
fooled with but there are a few cameras in there too. I did play with
one on the bench to see how well it worked but I never set it up.
This thing will RF out about 100' so I was thinking if the car hoppers
came back, I would hide one in the car somewhere for a good close up
of the weasel.
I also have a PC based DVR in one of my WYSE thin clients that I have
never fooled with. I can get to either of the DVRs with anything on
the network using a small application. Nothing has ever happened here
worth looking at the video. I can get some great pictures of Deuce in
the pool tho I guess.



I had a similar, four camera security system and DVR recorder when I had
the guitar shop. Somehow I figured out how to set up a static IP as
well so I could monitor all four cameras or just one from my computer at
home. The little camera I just bought has a micro SD card that will
continuously record but first I have to get the stupid thing working
correctly.



justan February 27th 18 12:43 PM

Amazon prime TV
 
Wrote in message:
On Mon, 26 Feb 2018 18:30:55 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


That seems to be the going rate around here for all those services.

I pay $73 a month for expanded basic cable TV, a HD DVR box, two small
HD cable boxes and Internet service. No phone service and no extra cost
channels. Four TV's but one is set up like the following:

My little "office" is on the other side of a wall from the living room
where the 65" TV and the large HD/DVR cable box is located. I have a
small, 23" HD TV on my desk beside my computer monitor. Rather than rent
another small HD cable box from Comcast, I bought a HDMI switch box for
cheap bucks and ran a HDMI cable through the wall from the living room
to the office room. When I want to watch the TV in the office, I just
switch the HDMI switch box to the "B" position and it sends the signal
from the cable box to the little TV in the office. If I want to watch
the big TV, I just put the switch in the "A" position.

Then, I added a remote control thing to change the channels from the
office. It has a LED that mounts near the sensor on the cable box and a
receiver in the office room that you point the cable box remote control
at. It duplicates the IR signal from the "clicker" on the LED mounted
near the sensor on the cable box in the living room. Works great.

It's funny that with three smaller HD TVs, I rarely watch the big one
anymore. It's great for football games and baseball but I usually end
up watching them on the small ones also.

Dish receivers have an RF out that you can distribute around the house
on coax for the "B" tuner and control it with RF remotes. The "A"
tuner is also on that coax on a different channel. I also have a Tivo
that goes out on a HDMI splitter to the bedroom and the living room.
I never really watch TV out in the pool area but I have 2 PC connected
TVs out there that pretty much just play music.
I put a monitor in our Bud Light sign and it runs from the lap top,
pretty much just showing a slide show of whatever we choose.
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/New%20tiki%20screen.jpg
I can stream to that too if I want.


Too bad you never met Larry from Charleston. You guys would have
had a lot of fun discussing "stuff".
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justan February 27th 18 01:09 PM

Amazon prime TV
 
Wrote in message:
On Mon, 26 Feb 2018 21:39:07 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 2/26/18 8:56 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:




So am I now-a-days. I just bought a WiFi outdoor security camera. I
didn't want "Ring" or "Nest" or "Google Home" versions that you have to
set up an account for. Just a simple WiFi camera that will connect to
the home network. It's made by a company called MyDlink.

Anyway, first thing I found out is that Firefox no longer supports it
and I use Firefox exclusively and not the Microsoft Edge browser. So, I
decided to access it via my phone. I downloaded the Android "MYDLINK
app. as instructed, it found and connected to my WiFI router but it
doesn't work. Keep getting error messages saying the video was "lost".
Don't know why.

Reloaded everything again ... same thing. Gave up for now. I'll try
again tomorrow.



A shot in the dark...many routers offer two different bands on different
frequencies. Perhaps your wi-fi camera wants one band and not the other.
The camera or its software might connect, but it won't work.


Did you get the chance to enter the WiFi password and did that work?


Those camers are tricky to set up. You need to give the camera a
user name and password. Also you need to change the lan port and
the wan port. You can do all that with an ethernet connection on
your PC. And then you need to set up wireless. Connecting with
wps is easiest. Then you need an app to view the cameras. Those
are hit or miss too. Try a few different ones to see what works.
When you get totally frustrated you might give the mfr. remote
access and let him set it up for you, if you think you can trust
them. My experience is that android apps are easier to set up
than PC apps. All that said, Luddite is a pretty smart fella. He
just needs a little time to figure out the details.
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justan February 27th 18 01:17 PM

Amazon prime TV
 
"Mr. Luddite" Wrote in message:
On 2/26/2018 9:39 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 2/26/18 8:56 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:


So am I now-a-days. I just bought a WiFi outdoor security camera. I
didn't want "Ring" or "Nest" or "Google Home" versions that you have
to set up an account for. Just a simple WiFi camera that will connect
to the home network. It's made by a company called MyDlink.

Anyway, first thing I found out is that Firefox no longer supports it
and I use Firefox exclusively and not the Microsoft Edge browser. So,
I decided to access it via my phone. I downloaded the Android
"MYDLINK app. as instructed, it found and connected to my WiFI router
but it doesn't work. Keep getting error messages saying the video was
"lost".
Don't know why.

Reloaded everything again ... same thing. Gave up for now. I'll try
again tomorrow.



A shot in the dark...many routers offer two different bands on different
frequencies. Perhaps your wi-fi camera wants one band and not the other.
The camera or its software might connect, but it won't work.



You may be on to something. At one point in the setup the instructions
ask you to pick "A" or "B" as a channel, but didn't offer any info as to
which one to pick. I picked "A". The camera connects to the network ok
but like I said, it keeps reporting "lost image", try again.

Might go get another camera with a 100 ft video output cable and be done
with it. :-)



Channel A or B might be referring to speed. I don't know. Or it
could be referring to lan or wan.
Most routers can work on 2.4 gig or 5 gig. Some cameras might be
restricted to 2.4 gig.
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amdx[_3_] February 27th 18 01:45 PM

Amazon prime TV
 
On 2/25/2018 9:33 PM, wrote:
I am really serious about cutting the cord. My wife says after the
olympics but that was today.
I am already transitioning to streaming, I am working my way through
the Amazon Prime documentaries They have just about anything that PBS
ever aired. I talked about the American Experience show about the MLK
assassination the other day. Today I am watching Frontline season 27
ep 8. This is contemporary with the 2009 crash and it is pretty
interesting, carving through some of the myths we may have.


I posted this yesterday, didn't see it show up.


The Firestick has a great interface, very easy to use.

I have added Terrarium TV on my Firestick.
This has all the TV shows you would want.

https://troypoint.com/install-terrar...fire-tv-stick/

I have also added Mobdro
Mobdro has many, many networks and TV stations.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWip-rgCjmc


Kodi can also be installed on your Firestick.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQogjnEqLhs


I have not put Kodi on mine but I have a buddy that uses it.
I did use Kodi when I used a Raspberry pi for streaming.

I have not used any of the Prime videos, as there is so much available
on the apps I posted.

Also, a program called Real Debrid,
https://real-debrid.com/
It's not needed and has a small cost but it picks the sources that will
give you the best sources to stream from automatically, without you
picking from a list. Also picks the 1040p and 4k streams.

Mikek




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