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Kids Say the Darndest Things
On Fri, 23 Feb 2018 08:17:53 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 2/22/2018 11:44 PM, wrote: On Thu, 22 Feb 2018 21:47:22 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Maybe the fact that the military look alike weapons have extremely high capacity magazines available. It is pretty hard to find any kind of gun with a detachable magazine where they don't have big ones. It is certainly true of the Rugers. Try to legally buy one in Massachusetts. If you showed up at a range with one the range safety officer would confiscate it and escort you from the range ... at least they would at the club I belonged to. Even with laws as strict as they are in MA, Boston didn't have a very good year in 2017. http://www.fox25boston.com/news/teen...2017/672133630 "In 2017, Boston is on track to have a murder rate of 8.7 per 100,000 people, compared to the estimated rates of 3.3 per 100,000 in New York City and 6.8 per 100,000 in Los Angeles, according to the Brennan Center." Wonder how this is going to work. "Starting in January, authorities will have a judicial system devoted exclusively to processing gun offenses in the Suffolk Superior Court after being operated for more than a decade in the Boston Municipal Court." A lot of law officers are down on systems which allow gun offenders to get '30 days probation'. |
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On 2/23/2018 8:46 AM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 23 Feb 2018 08:17:53 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 2/22/2018 11:44 PM, wrote: On Thu, 22 Feb 2018 21:47:22 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Maybe the fact that the military look alike weapons have extremely high capacity magazines available. It is pretty hard to find any kind of gun with a detachable magazine where they don't have big ones. It is certainly true of the Rugers. Try to legally buy one in Massachusetts. If you showed up at a range with one the range safety officer would confiscate it and escort you from the range ... at least they would at the club I belonged to. Even with laws as strict as they are in MA, Boston didn't have a very good year in 2017. http://www.fox25boston.com/news/teen...2017/672133630 "In 2017, Boston is on track to have a murder rate of 8.7 per 100,000 people, compared to the estimated rates of 3.3 per 100,000 in New York City and 6.8 per 100,000 in Los Angeles, according to the Brennan Center." Wonder how this is going to work. "Starting in January, authorities will have a judicial system devoted exclusively to processing gun offenses in the Suffolk Superior Court after being operated for more than a decade in the Boston Municipal Court." A lot of law officers are down on systems which allow gun offenders to get '30 days probation'. Big cities in Massachusetts are not immune to the rise in gun related fatalities. Gangs exist here as they do elsewhere in the nation. |
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Kids Say the Darndest Things
On Fri, 23 Feb 2018 06:44:42 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote: On 2/22/18 11:40 PM, wrote: When kids die in cars do you want to ban cars or do you want to look at the real cause of the wreck? It is like blaming Ryder rental trucks for the bombing of the WTC in 93 and the Murrah building. It is absolutely moronic to equate deaths from accidental car wrecks with the mass murders taking place in schools. That can't be part of Loonytarian Think, is it? It is not that off base when you look at the current thinking about drunk drivers. Their wrecks are not "accidents" they are crimes and the assumption is that the vehicle is a deadly weapon. There are far more drunks than there are mass shooters and they kill many more people. We still have not banned alcohol or demanded universal breatholizers on car ignitions. It is clear that this would save lives, people are just not willing to be that inconvenienced simply because thousands of people are killed. |
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Kids Say the Darndest Things
On Fri, 23 Feb 2018 06:47:08 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote: On 2/22/18 3:45 PM, wrote: On Thu, 22 Feb 2018 14:21:01 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 2/22/2018 12:13 PM, wrote: On Thu, 22 Feb 2018 07:25:20 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: Here's a weird one. In Massachusetts, one of the most liberal states, a 15 year old can legally purchase and own a long gun with his/her parent's permission. If the parents are OK with it, can't a kid have any gun they want at any age? Who is going to stop them? I had my first shotgun at 14-15 when I started to hunt but I had a .22 for years before that. I suppose technically it was my dad's, handed down from my grandfather but I had free access to it and they sold ammo at the 7-11. Fortunately, most parents I know personally have more smarts and a sense of responsibility to allow their kids at any minor age to own guns. That is Acela corridor thinking again and big city thinking at that. That's just more of your Duck Dynasty mindset. There are more Duck Dynasty fans than Rachel Maddow fans, what's your point? |
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On Fri, 23 Feb 2018 08:14:35 -0500, John H.
wrote: On Thu, 22 Feb 2018 23:42:07 -0500, wrote: Well, you don't see many kids walking around with handguns, do you? There seem to be plenty of them in Baltimore, Detroit and Chicago.. That is the point of a handgun, you can't see people walking around with them. To the liberals, those don't count, remember. You made a good point. If the parents OK it, who's going to stop them. Perhaps we need to see some much stronger action taken against parents whose kids have access to the guns and use them illegally. Most of those kids don't have functional parents |
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On Fri, 23 Feb 2018 08:17:53 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: On 2/22/2018 11:44 PM, wrote: On Thu, 22 Feb 2018 21:47:22 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Maybe the fact that the military look alike weapons have extremely high capacity magazines available. It is pretty hard to find any kind of gun with a detachable magazine where they don't have big ones. It is certainly true of the Rugers. Try to legally buy one in Massachusetts. If you showed up at a range with one the range safety officer would confiscate it and escort you from the range ... at least they would at the club I belonged to. We aren't talking about the range tho are we. |
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Kids Say the Darndest Things
On Fri, 23 Feb 2018 08:27:11 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote: On 2/23/18 8:17 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 2/22/2018 11:44 PM, wrote: On Thu, 22 Feb 2018 21:47:22 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Maybe the fact that the military look alike weapons have extremely high capacity magazines available. It is pretty hard to find any kind of gun with a detachable magazine where they don't have big ones. It is certainly true of the Rugers. Try to legally buy one in Massachusetts.Â* If you showed up at a range with one the range safety officer would confiscate it and escort you from the range ... at least they would at the club I belonged to. My current CZ 512 has five or 10 round detachable mags, as did my previous CZ bolt action rifle. I believe the bolt action Ruger precision rifles are limited to 10-round mags. Are you saying I can't find a bigger magazine for either of them? |
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On 2/23/2018 12:21 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 23 Feb 2018 03:24:19 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 2/22/2018 10:48 PM, wrote: On Thu, 22 Feb 2018 16:11:18 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 2/22/2018 3:45 PM, wrote: On Thu, 22 Feb 2018 14:21:01 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 2/22/2018 12:13 PM, wrote: On Thu, 22 Feb 2018 07:25:20 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: Here's a weird one. In Massachusetts, one of the most liberal states, a 15 year old can legally purchase and own a long gun with his/her parent's permission. If the parents are OK with it, can't a kid have any gun they want at any age? Who is going to stop them? I had my first shotgun at 14-15 when I started to hunt but I had a .22 for years before that. I suppose technically it was my dad's, handed down from my grandfather but I had free access to it and they sold ammo at the 7-11. Fortunately, most parents I know personally have more smarts and a sense of responsibility to allow their kids at any minor age to own guns. That is Acela corridor thinking again and big city thinking at that. In the early 60s hunting was a thing most of my friends did before they could drive and this was just outside of DC in PG county. Like I said, the 7-11 sold shotgun shells and .22s I am sure that sounds strange today but you could walk in the woods all the way from the DC line behind Eastover shopping center and Forest Heights to the river, down past where National Harbor is now and never see a thing but woods. That was 4 or 5 square miles contiguous with the woods behind my house before they built the interstate. Typically we did not really do much hunting east of 210 but there were some good quail and rabbit fields before you got there, pretty much where the right of way for I-495 is now. West of 210 there was just about anything you could expect to find in Maryland. The strange thing is there is still a pretty big undeveloped parcel down there right now. There are plenty people who hunt in Massachusetts and the areas we've lived in are probably more heavily wooded than your experience in Maryland. The last house I lived in with my parents as a kid was surrounded by tens of thousands of acres of woods and undeveloped land. I still don't know of any parent I know who would allow a minor child to have his/her very own gun. BB guns, yes. Firearms ... no. === I grew up in a semi-rural area of upstate NY and many of my friends had their own 22s and/or shot guns. Not one was ever injured or involved in any gun related incident. Did your friends have AR-15s and have a Rambo mindset? Now you have changed the subject then haven't you? You went from "no minor should ever have anything but a BB gun" to assuming we want our kid to have an AR. That being said, I am sure out west where it is relatively safe to shoot one, there are teenagers with ARs. They would usually start with a .22rf and demonstrate that they are safe and knowledgable first but there are plenty of people out in flyover country who understand a gun is a tool. How have I changed the subject? My point was that you really can't compare what was common 50 years ago to today. AR-15s had not been invented that I know of and I don't think a teenager could run down to the local gun store back then and buy a rifle designed for the military back then. |
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