Now I am pissed ...
 

On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 12:55:30 -0800 (PST), Its Me wrote:

On Sunday, January 21, 2018 at 3:22:16 PM UTC-5, John H wrote:
On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 13:59:19 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 13:47:08 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 12:30:50 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 1/21/2018 11:57 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 1/21/18 11:35 AM, wrote:
On 21 Jan 2018 14:45:06 GMT, Keyser Soze wrote:



Why didn’t President ******** simply sign an Exec Order mandating
broadcast
of the game?* :)

He could have just stroked a check to pay those AFN people necessary
to get that out on the air. I doubt it would take more than a few
dozen people for a day or two (who are not already called essential
and working anyway). He paid more than that to cut the grass at Mar a
Lago this week


I knew two pro football players pretty well. One was a year ahead of me
at my high school and the other I met as an adult. The latter was a
neighbor of a close friend. One was a halfback and the other was a
linebacker, and both were stars. In any case, both were glad to get out
of the game with their brains intact and their bodies in reasonably
decent shape. The funny thing is the high school fella was a terrific
basketball player, too, and he might have had a longer and safer career
in the NBA.

Another great player I did get to see play in college was Gale Sayers.
He had a great but short career in the NFL, got out, had several
successful careers in sports and business but I read recently he is
suffering from dementia, probably as a result of the head injuries he
suffered playing pro football.

I wonder how much longer the NFL will be allowed, what with the
seriousness and extent of the brain injuries.


The NFL has come a long way with both protective gear, severe penalties
for unnecessary hits or roughness and mandatory concussion protocols.

The days of "Mean Joe Greene" and players like him are over.


I think they should remove all the protective gear - rugby style. You don't hear much about
concussion problems with rugby players.

Then it would be soccer and nobody would watch. They used to admit the
NFL was all about the "big hits".

Not quite. Apparently you've not watched a lot of rugby. Much different than soccer and much more
action than our football.

A co-worker's son was set to get a full-ride scholarship playing rugby. He was a star, and played on the "all star" team that played across the pond several times. He ended up hurting his knee and when it all shook out, it turned out he had been playing with a concussion for a year or so.

His "career" is now over, and after concussion rehab he's getting his academic and social capabilities back together, and going to college.

Sorry to hear about that. Injuries like that happen in soccer also, but not nearly as frequently as
with our style football. From what I've seen and read, the incidence of concussions among rugby
players is less than that of football players. Spinal injuries from the scrums is a big concern. Our
football doesn't have the scrums.

Now I am pissed ...
 

On 1/21/2018 4:23 PM, John H wrote:
On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 12:55:30 -0800 (PST), Its Me wrote:

On Sunday, January 21, 2018 at 3:22:16 PM UTC-5, John H wrote:
On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 13:59:19 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 13:47:08 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 12:30:50 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 1/21/2018 11:57 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 1/21/18 11:35 AM, wrote:
On 21 Jan 2018 14:45:06 GMT, Keyser Soze wrote:



Why didn’t President ******** simply sign an Exec Order mandating
broadcast
of the game?Â* :)

He could have just stroked a check to pay those AFN people necessary
to get that out on the air. I doubt it would take more than a few
dozen people for a day or two (who are not already called essential
and working anyway). He paid more than that to cut the grass at Mar a
Lago this week


I knew two pro football players pretty well. One was a year ahead of me
at my high school and the other I met as an adult. The latter was a
neighbor of a close friend. One was a halfback and the other was a
linebacker, and both were stars. In any case, both were glad to get out
of the game with their brains intact and their bodies in reasonably
decent shape. The funny thing is the high school fella was a terrific
basketball player, too, and he might have had a longer and safer career
in the NBA.

Another great player I did get to see play in college was Gale Sayers.
He had a great but short career in the NFL, got out, had several
successful careers in sports and business but I read recently he is
suffering from dementia, probably as a result of the head injuries he
suffered playing pro football.

I wonder how much longer the NFL will be allowed, what with the
seriousness and extent of the brain injuries.


The NFL has come a long way with both protective gear, severe penalties
for unnecessary hits or roughness and mandatory concussion protocols.

The days of "Mean Joe Greene" and players like him are over.


I think they should remove all the protective gear - rugby style. You don't hear much about
concussion problems with rugby players.

Then it would be soccer and nobody would watch. They used to admit the
NFL was all about the "big hits".

Not quite. Apparently you've not watched a lot of rugby. Much different than soccer and much more
action than our football.

A co-worker's son was set to get a full-ride scholarship playing rugby. He was a star, and played on the "all star" team that played across the pond several times. He ended up hurting his knee and when it all shook out, it turned out he had been playing with a concussion for a year or so.

His "career" is now over, and after concussion rehab he's getting his academic and social capabilities back together, and going to college.

Sorry to hear about that. Injuries like that happen in soccer also, but not nearly as frequently as
with our style football. From what I've seen and read, the incidence of concussions among rugby
players is less than that of football players. Spinal injuries from the scrums is a big concern. Our
football doesn't have the scrums.



Rugby will never be popular here. Not enough time outs for commercials.

Now I am pissed ...
 

On Sunday, 21 January 2018 16:21:10 UTC-4, John H wrote:
On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 14:35:13 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 1/21/18 1:58 PM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 1/21/18 1:11 PM, wrote:
On 21 Jan 2018 16:32:18 GMT, Keyser Soze wrote:

wrote:
On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 09:39:30 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


And what could be more important than football? ?


It's ok if you'd rather read Moby Dick for the 18th time instead. Most
of us got it the first time around.

Another of your weird personality quirks. If you don't like something,
nobody should, huh?

Moby Dick? Jesus what a boring ****ing book. Melville could have
trimmed off about 400 pages and had a gripping novel.
I got it right away. Life on a whaling ship was miserable. We didn't
need to share that misery for almost 800 pages to read the story.
Beside that, if you are already bored at sea, the last thing I want to
read is a book about being bored at sea. I thought the GM 3&2 book was
more interesting. ;-)


Ahhh...you thought the book was about life aboard a whaling ship, but that
is only the back page story, as it were. I’m not surprised you actually
didn’t get it.

No it was the "back 400 pages", unless you were just speed reading
over that like you skim the notes you respond to here.
Like I said at 250-300 pages it would have been a gripping story. The
man needed an editor.


My copy of Anna Karenina runs about 700 pages. You probably shouldn't
read Tolstoy.


As a statement I read onetime about Russian y would never read another one.
What is it about Russian novels that when you get to liking a character
they kill them off. Okay to kill a few but all of them? To depressing.



Russia and environs was and is a pretty dark, lousy place, where awful
things happened to people, and I don't mean because of the weather,
although that is pretty grim in much of the country, too. Russian
literature reflects Russian history, culture, class warfare, et cetera.
Life was pretty damned awful for ethnics living in Lithuania, Moldova,
Ukraine, Belarus, et cetera. My parents, some of my grandparents, and
various aunts and uncles and great aunts and uncles spoke Russian,
Polish, and German and so I learned Russian as a second language when I
was growing up. I forced myself to read Dr. Zhivago in Russian when I
was a young teenager, and it wasn't easy. I wouldn't attempt to read
Tolstoy in Russian. I remember with Zhivago I had to create a character
cheat sheet so I could try to recall who was who. Years later, I read
the novel in English and I enjoyed it. The movie romanticized the novel
and the times, but I liked it. The literary movie Russia House with Sean
Connery presents Russia in a more modern but still very dark light.

Decades ago, I helped promote a gallery show of contemporary Russian art
for Woodward & Lothrop, a DC department store chain now gone. The art
was so-so, but the story of many of the Soviet-era artists was grim,
something the Russian cultural attaches tried to conceal. It was a weird
time in the 1970s.



In case no one else says it, "Wow, Harry!"

'ell Johnny, is instigating and agitating your only purpose here?

Now I am pissed ...
 

True North wrote:
On Sunday, 21 January 2018 16:21:10 UTC-4, John H wrote:
On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 14:35:13 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 1/21/18 1:58 PM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 1/21/18 1:11 PM, wrote:
On 21 Jan 2018 16:32:18 GMT, Keyser Soze wrote:

wrote:
On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 09:39:30 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


And what could be more important than football? ?


It's ok if you'd rather read Moby Dick for the 18th time instead. Most
of us got it the first time around.

Another of your weird personality quirks. If you don't like something,
nobody should, huh?

Moby Dick? Jesus what a boring ****ing book. Melville could have
trimmed off about 400 pages and had a gripping novel.
I got it right away. Life on a whaling ship was miserable. We didn't
need to share that misery for almost 800 pages to read the story.
Beside that, if you are already bored at sea, the last thing I want to
read is a book about being bored at sea. I thought the GM 3&2 book was
more interesting. ;-)


Ahhh...you thought the book was about life aboard a whaling ship, but that
is only the back page story, as it were. I’m not surprised you actually
didn’t get it.

No it was the "back 400 pages", unless you were just speed reading
over that like you skim the notes you respond to here.
Like I said at 250-300 pages it would have been a gripping story. The
man needed an editor.


My copy of Anna Karenina runs about 700 pages. You probably shouldn't
read Tolstoy.


As a statement I read onetime about Russian y would never read another one.
What is it about Russian novels that when you get to liking a character
they kill them off. Okay to kill a few but all of them? To depressing.



Russia and environs was and is a pretty dark, lousy place, where awful
things happened to people, and I don't mean because of the weather,
although that is pretty grim in much of the country, too. Russian
literature reflects Russian history, culture, class warfare, et cetera.
Life was pretty damned awful for ethnics living in Lithuania, Moldova,
Ukraine, Belarus, et cetera. My parents, some of my grandparents, and
various aunts and uncles and great aunts and uncles spoke Russian,
Polish, and German and so I learned Russian as a second language when I
was growing up. I forced myself to read Dr. Zhivago in Russian when I
was a young teenager, and it wasn't easy. I wouldn't attempt to read
Tolstoy in Russian. I remember with Zhivago I had to create a character
cheat sheet so I could try to recall who was who. Years later, I read
the novel in English and I enjoyed it. The movie romanticized the novel
and the times, but I liked it. The literary movie Russia House with Sean
Connery presents Russia in a more modern but still very dark light.

Decades ago, I helped promote a gallery show of contemporary Russian art
for Woodward & Lothrop, a DC department store chain now gone. The art
was so-so, but the story of many of the Soviet-era artists was grim,
something the Russian cultural attaches tried to conceal. It was a weird
time in the 1970s.



In case no one else says it, "Wow, Harry!"

'ell Johnny, is instigating and agitating your only purpose here?


Some of us didn’t have to grow up on a dirt farm in Missouri and have to
shoot squirrels for dinner. :)

--
Posted with my iPhone 8+.

Now I am pissed ...
 

On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 16:28:51 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 1/21/2018 4:23 PM, John H wrote:
On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 12:55:30 -0800 (PST), Its Me wrote:

On Sunday, January 21, 2018 at 3:22:16 PM UTC-5, John H wrote:
On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 13:59:19 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 13:47:08 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 12:30:50 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 1/21/2018 11:57 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 1/21/18 11:35 AM, wrote:
On 21 Jan 2018 14:45:06 GMT, Keyser Soze wrote:



Why didn’t President ******** simply sign an Exec Order mandating
broadcast
of the game?* :)

He could have just stroked a check to pay those AFN people necessary
to get that out on the air. I doubt it would take more than a few
dozen people for a day or two (who are not already called essential
and working anyway). He paid more than that to cut the grass at Mar a
Lago this week


I knew two pro football players pretty well. One was a year ahead of me
at my high school and the other I met as an adult. The latter was a
neighbor of a close friend. One was a halfback and the other was a
linebacker, and both were stars. In any case, both were glad to get out
of the game with their brains intact and their bodies in reasonably
decent shape. The funny thing is the high school fella was a terrific
basketball player, too, and he might have had a longer and safer career
in the NBA.

Another great player I did get to see play in college was Gale Sayers.
He had a great but short career in the NFL, got out, had several
successful careers in sports and business but I read recently he is
suffering from dementia, probably as a result of the head injuries he
suffered playing pro football.

I wonder how much longer the NFL will be allowed, what with the
seriousness and extent of the brain injuries.


The NFL has come a long way with both protective gear, severe penalties
for unnecessary hits or roughness and mandatory concussion protocols.

The days of "Mean Joe Greene" and players like him are over.


I think they should remove all the protective gear - rugby style. You don't hear much about
concussion problems with rugby players.

Then it would be soccer and nobody would watch. They used to admit the
NFL was all about the "big hits".

Not quite. Apparently you've not watched a lot of rugby. Much different than soccer and much more
action than our football.

A co-worker's son was set to get a full-ride scholarship playing rugby. He was a star, and played on the "all star" team that played across the pond several times. He ended up hurting his knee and when it all shook out, it turned out he had been playing with a concussion for a year or so.

His "career" is now over, and after concussion rehab he's getting his academic and social capabilities back together, and going to college.

Sorry to hear about that. Injuries like that happen in soccer also, but not nearly as frequently as
with our style football. From what I've seen and read, the incidence of concussions among rugby
players is less than that of football players. Spinal injuries from the scrums is a big concern. Our
football doesn't have the scrums.



Rugby will never be popular here. Not enough time outs for commercials.


That's what they said about soccer. Now a lot of soccer is shown on TV, but without a commercial
every couple minutes.

Now I am pissed ...
 

On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 14:09:24 -0800 (PST), True North wrote:

On Sunday, 21 January 2018 16:21:10 UTC-4, John H wrote:
On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 14:35:13 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 1/21/18 1:58 PM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 1/21/18 1:11 PM, wrote:
On 21 Jan 2018 16:32:18 GMT, Keyser Soze wrote:

wrote:
On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 09:39:30 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


And what could be more important than football? ?


It's ok if you'd rather read Moby Dick for the 18th time instead. Most
of us got it the first time around.

Another of your weird personality quirks. If you don't like something,
nobody should, huh?

Moby Dick? Jesus what a boring ****ing book. Melville could have
trimmed off about 400 pages and had a gripping novel.
I got it right away. Life on a whaling ship was miserable. We didn't
need to share that misery for almost 800 pages to read the story.
Beside that, if you are already bored at sea, the last thing I want to
read is a book about being bored at sea. I thought the GM 3&2 book was
more interesting. ;-)


Ahhh...you thought the book was about life aboard a whaling ship, but that
is only the back page story, as it were. I’m not surprised you actually
didn’t get it.

No it was the "back 400 pages", unless you were just speed reading
over that like you skim the notes you respond to here.
Like I said at 250-300 pages it would have been a gripping story. The
man needed an editor.


My copy of Anna Karenina runs about 700 pages. You probably shouldn't
read Tolstoy.


As a statement I read onetime about Russian y would never read another one.
What is it about Russian novels that when you get to liking a character
they kill them off. Okay to kill a few but all of them? To depressing.



Russia and environs was and is a pretty dark, lousy place, where awful
things happened to people, and I don't mean because of the weather,
although that is pretty grim in much of the country, too. Russian
literature reflects Russian history, culture, class warfare, et cetera.
Life was pretty damned awful for ethnics living in Lithuania, Moldova,
Ukraine, Belarus, et cetera. My parents, some of my grandparents, and
various aunts and uncles and great aunts and uncles spoke Russian,
Polish, and German and so I learned Russian as a second language when I
was growing up. I forced myself to read Dr. Zhivago in Russian when I
was a young teenager, and it wasn't easy. I wouldn't attempt to read
Tolstoy in Russian. I remember with Zhivago I had to create a character
cheat sheet so I could try to recall who was who. Years later, I read
the novel in English and I enjoyed it. The movie romanticized the novel
and the times, but I liked it. The literary movie Russia House with Sean
Connery presents Russia in a more modern but still very dark light.

Decades ago, I helped promote a gallery show of contemporary Russian art
for Woodward & Lothrop, a DC department store chain now gone. The art
was so-so, but the story of many of the Soviet-era artists was grim,
something the Russian cultural attaches tried to conceal. It was a weird
time in the 1970s.



In case no one else says it, "Wow, Harry!"

'ell Johnny, is instigating and agitating your only purpose here?

Not at all, just extremely impressed. Aren't you?

Now I am pissed ...
 

On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 15:22:15 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 13:59:19 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 13:47:08 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 12:30:50 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 1/21/2018 11:57 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 1/21/18 11:35 AM, wrote:
On 21 Jan 2018 14:45:06 GMT, Keyser Soze wrote:



Why didn’t President ******** simply sign an Exec Order mandating
broadcast
of the game?Â* :)

He could have just stroked a check to pay those AFN people necessary
to get that out on the air. I doubt it would take more than a few
dozen people for a day or two (who are not already called essential
and working anyway). He paid more than that to cut the grass at Mar a
Lago this week


I knew two pro football players pretty well. One was a year ahead of me
at my high school and the other I met as an adult. The latter was a
neighbor of a close friend. One was a halfback and the other was a
linebacker, and both were stars. In any case, both were glad to get out
of the game with their brains intact and their bodies in reasonably
decent shape. The funny thing is the high school fella was a terrific
basketball player, too, and he might have had a longer and safer career
in the NBA.

Another great player I did get to see play in college was Gale Sayers.
He had a great but short career in the NFL, got out, had several
successful careers in sports and business but I read recently he is
suffering from dementia, probably as a result of the head injuries he
suffered playing pro football.

I wonder how much longer the NFL will be allowed, what with the
seriousness and extent of the brain injuries.


The NFL has come a long way with both protective gear, severe penalties
for unnecessary hits or roughness and mandatory concussion protocols.

The days of "Mean Joe Greene" and players like him are over.


I think they should remove all the protective gear - rugby style. You don't hear much about
concussion problems with rugby players.

Then it would be soccer and nobody would watch. They used to admit the
NFL was all about the "big hits".

Not quite. Apparently you've not watched a lot of rugby. Much different than soccer and much more
action than our football.

We watched some rugby in New Zealand "Go All Blacks" and I agree it is
not exactly like soccer but more like it than NFL football. The
biggest single difference is no line of scrimmage.

Now I am pissed ...
 

On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 15:26:52 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 14:23:06 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 18:58:09 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:



As a statement I read onetime about Russian y would never read another one.
What is it about Russian novels that when you get to liking a character
they kill them off. Okay to kill a few but all of them? To depressing.

Don't read the winds of war ;-)

I very much enjoyed that series, wish it'd been longer.

But you have to admit spoiler alert the Nazis get a lot of people
you were just starting to like. I read "winds" and "Remembrance"
during a freezing trip to Chicago where taking a coat just tricks you
into thinking you can go outside. If there were others I missed them.

Now I am pissed ...
 

On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 16:23:43 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 12:55:30 -0800 (PST), Its Me wrote:

On Sunday, January 21, 2018 at 3:22:16 PM UTC-5, John H wrote:

Not quite. Apparently you've not watched a lot of rugby. Much different than soccer and much more
action than our football.

A co-worker's son was set to get a full-ride scholarship playing rugby. He was a star, and played on the "all star" team that played across the pond several times. He ended up hurting his knee and when it all shook out, it turned out he had been playing with a concussion for a year or so.

His "career" is now over, and after concussion rehab he's getting his academic and social capabilities back together, and going to college.

Sorry to hear about that. Injuries like that happen in soccer also, but not nearly as frequently as
with our style football. From what I've seen and read, the incidence of concussions among rugby
players is less than that of football players. Spinal injuries from the scrums is a big concern. Our
football doesn't have the scrums.

I heard once there are more injuries in girl's soccer than there are
in amateur football.

Now I am pissed ...
 

On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 17:18:39 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Some of us didn’t have to grow up on a dirt farm in Missouri and have to
shoot squirrels for dinner. :)

===

Too bad for you - might have been better for it.

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Now I am pissed ...
 

On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 22:44:03 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 15:22:15 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 13:59:19 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 13:47:08 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 12:30:50 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 1/21/2018 11:57 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 1/21/18 11:35 AM, wrote:
On 21 Jan 2018 14:45:06 GMT, Keyser Soze wrote:



Why didn’t President ******** simply sign an Exec Order mandating
broadcast
of the game?* :)

He could have just stroked a check to pay those AFN people necessary
to get that out on the air. I doubt it would take more than a few
dozen people for a day or two (who are not already called essential
and working anyway). He paid more than that to cut the grass at Mar a
Lago this week


I knew two pro football players pretty well. One was a year ahead of me
at my high school and the other I met as an adult. The latter was a
neighbor of a close friend. One was a halfback and the other was a
linebacker, and both were stars. In any case, both were glad to get out
of the game with their brains intact and their bodies in reasonably
decent shape. The funny thing is the high school fella was a terrific
basketball player, too, and he might have had a longer and safer career
in the NBA.

Another great player I did get to see play in college was Gale Sayers.
He had a great but short career in the NFL, got out, had several
successful careers in sports and business but I read recently he is
suffering from dementia, probably as a result of the head injuries he
suffered playing pro football.

I wonder how much longer the NFL will be allowed, what with the
seriousness and extent of the brain injuries.


The NFL has come a long way with both protective gear, severe penalties
for unnecessary hits or roughness and mandatory concussion protocols.

The days of "Mean Joe Greene" and players like him are over.


I think they should remove all the protective gear - rugby style. You don't hear much about
concussion problems with rugby players.

Then it would be soccer and nobody would watch. They used to admit the
NFL was all about the "big hits".

Not quite. Apparently you've not watched a lot of rugby. Much different than soccer and much more
action than our football.

We watched some rugby in New Zealand "Go All Blacks" and I agree it is
not exactly like soccer but more like it than NFL football. The
biggest single difference is no line of scrimmage.

We must be talking different sports. If soccer players hit like rugby players, they'd all be 'red
carded' off the field. Other than the requirement to move the ball downfield, I can't see many
similarities between soccer and rugby. Between rugby and football, yeah. You said it in your last
sentence.

Now I am pissed ...
 

On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 22:49:38 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 15:26:52 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 14:23:06 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 18:58:09 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:



As a statement I read onetime about Russian y would never read another one.
What is it about Russian novels that when you get to liking a character
they kill them off. Okay to kill a few but all of them? To depressing.

Don't read the winds of war ;-)

I very much enjoyed that series, wish it'd been longer.

But you have to admit spoiler alert the Nazis get a lot of people
you were just starting to like. I read "winds" and "Remembrance"
during a freezing trip to Chicago where taking a coat just tricks you
into thinking you can go outside. If there were others I missed them.

Nope, just those two. It's a shame he didn't work through the Korean and Vietnam wars. Good author
(IMHO), although I'm sure Krause would say he's trash.

Now I am pissed ...
 

On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 22:51:58 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 16:23:43 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 12:55:30 -0800 (PST), Its Me wrote:

On Sunday, January 21, 2018 at 3:22:16 PM UTC-5, John H wrote:

Not quite. Apparently you've not watched a lot of rugby. Much different than soccer and much more
action than our football.

A co-worker's son was set to get a full-ride scholarship playing rugby. He was a star, and played on the "all star" team that played across the pond several times. He ended up hurting his knee and when it all shook out, it turned out he had been playing with a concussion for a year or so.

His "career" is now over, and after concussion rehab he's getting his academic and social capabilities back together, and going to college.

Sorry to hear about that. Injuries like that happen in soccer also, but not nearly as frequently as
with our style football. From what I've seen and read, the incidence of concussions among rugby
players is less than that of football players. Spinal injuries from the scrums is a big concern. Our
football doesn't have the scrums.

I heard once there are more injuries in girl's soccer than there are
in amateur football.

Now 'headers' are disallowed in most youth soccer.

https://www.today.com/parents/no-mor...-soccer-t54971

Now I am pissed ...
 

On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 00:29:40 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 17:18:39 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Some of us didn’t have to grow up on a dirt farm in Missouri and have to
shoot squirrels for dinner. :)

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Besides, we ate a lot more rabbit than squirrel. Rabbit traps were easy to make.

Now I am pissed ...
 

On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 17:18:39 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Some of us didn’t have to grow up on a dirt farm in Missouri and have to
shoot squirrels for dinner. :)

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That’s kinda how I look at it...

Now I am pissed ...
 

On 1/22/18 9:45 AM, Tim wrote:

On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 17:18:39 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Some of us didn’t have to grow up on a dirt farm in Missouri and have to
shoot squirrels for dinner. :)

===

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That’s kinda how I look at it...


Growing up on a dirt farm in Missouri and shooting squirrels for dinner
seems to make one a racist.

Now I am pissed ...
 

8:50 AMKeyser Soze
- show quoted text -
Growing up on a dirt farm in Missouri and shooting squirrels for dinner
seems to make one a racist.
....

I guess so that is if squirrel is classsd as a “race�

Now I am pissed ...
 

On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 08:30:29 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 22:44:03 -0500, wrote:


We watched some rugby in New Zealand "Go All Blacks" and I agree it is
not exactly like soccer but more like it than NFL football. The
biggest single difference is no line of scrimmage.

We must be talking different sports. If soccer players hit like rugby players, they'd all be 'red
carded' off the field. Other than the requirement to move the ball downfield, I can't see many
similarities between soccer and rugby. Between rugby and football, yeah. You said it in your last
sentence.

Most of the violence in football is within a few yards of the line of
scrimmage. That is why they have different rules there. You have a
half dozen 300 pound guys on each side, lined up face to face snarling
at each other and on the snap they crash into each other as hard as
they can, on every play. They are not even allowed to grab each other,
they have to just knock the other guy out of the way. What could
possibly go wrong? Compared to that a scrum is just a big group hug.

Now I am pissed ...
 

On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 06:59:06 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:


8:50 AMKeyser Soze
- show quoted text -
Growing up on a dirt farm in Missouri and shooting squirrels for dinner
seems to make one a racist.
...

I guess so that is if squirrel is classsd as a “race”

LOL! There are a lot of solid black squirrels around here. I treat them exactly as I would any other
squirrel!

Now I am pissed ...
 

On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 09:50:35 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 1/22/18 9:45 AM, Tim wrote:

On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 17:18:39 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Some of us didn’t have to grow up on a dirt farm in Missouri and have to
shoot squirrels for dinner. :)

===

Too bad for you - might have been better for it.

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....

That’s kinda how I look at it...


Growing up on a dirt farm in Missouri and shooting squirrels for dinner
seems to make one a racist.

Minnesota, Harry. And mostly rabbits. Squirrels are harder'n hell to clean.

Now I am pissed ...
 

On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 09:50:35 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 1/22/18 9:45 AM, Tim wrote:

On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 17:18:39 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Some of us didn’t have to grow up on a dirt farm in Missouri and have to
shoot squirrels for dinner. :)

===

Too bad for you - might have been better for it.

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....

That’s kinda how I look at it...


Growing up on a dirt farm in Missouri and shooting squirrels for dinner
seems to make one a racist.

Is that a Truman reference?

Now I am pissed ...
 

On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 06:59:06 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:


8:50 AMKeyser Soze
- show quoted text -
Growing up on a dirt farm in Missouri and shooting squirrels for dinner
seems to make one a racist.
...

I guess so that is if squirrel is classsd as a “race�

Only the furry animals with the black eye shadow and a ringed tail.

Now I am pissed ...
 

On 1/22/18 12:31 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 08:30:29 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 22:44:03 -0500, wrote:


We watched some rugby in New Zealand "Go All Blacks" and I agree it is
not exactly like soccer but more like it than NFL football. The
biggest single difference is no line of scrimmage.

We must be talking different sports. If soccer players hit like rugby players, they'd all be 'red
carded' off the field. Other than the requirement to move the ball downfield, I can't see many
similarities between soccer and rugby. Between rugby and football, yeah. You said it in your last
sentence.

Most of the violence in football is within a few yards of the line of
scrimmage. That is why they have different rules there. You have a
half dozen 300 pound guys on each side, lined up face to face snarling
at each other and on the snap they crash into each other as hard as
they can, on every play. They are not even allowed to grab each other,
they have to just knock the other guy out of the way. What could
possibly go wrong? Compared to that a scrum is just a big group hug.



I went to a rugby match last fall and saw the game was not much
different than when I was in college, back before electricity was
discovered. It's a rough and tumble game, for sure, but I didn't see any
Neanderthals lined up to kill or maim each other, nor anyone taking
anyone down as it is done in football. No extra violence. Pro football
is going to be sued out of existence, and the sooner the better.

Now I am pissed ...
 

On 1/22/18 12:34 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 09:50:35 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 1/22/18 9:45 AM, Tim wrote:

On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 17:18:39 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Some of us didn’t have to grow up on a dirt farm in Missouri and have to
shoot squirrels for dinner. :)

===

Too bad for you - might have been better for it.

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....

That’s kinda how I look at it...


Growing up on a dirt farm in Missouri and shooting squirrels for dinner
seems to make one a racist.

Is that a Truman reference?


Hehehe. I knew you'd bite on that one. You are so predictable. It was a
John Herring the Racist reference.

Now I am pissed ...
 

On 1/22/18 12:35 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 06:59:06 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:


8:50 AMKeyser Soze
- show quoted text -
Growing up on a dirt farm in Missouri and shooting squirrels for dinner
seems to make one a racist.
...

I guess so that is if squirrel is classsd as a “race�

Only the furry animals with the black eye shadow and a ringed tail.


I have an ex-friend who told me he goes out to a field in southern
Maryland to shoot groundhogs and other small critters. Not critters
that are pestering any not really on a higher evolutionary scale than
"hooomans," but just living their little animal lives. Disgusting.

Now I am pissed ...
 

On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 09:50:35 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

Growing up on a dirt farm in Missouri and shooting squirrels for dinner
seems to make one a racist.

===

Tell us again about all of the volunteer work you do for
underprivileged minorities in DC and inner city Baltimore.
If nothing else you could teach classes on gun safety since they seem
to have so many accidental shootings. Actions speak much louder than
words.

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Now I am pissed ...
 

On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 12:31:17 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 08:30:29 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 22:44:03 -0500, wrote:


We watched some rugby in New Zealand "Go All Blacks" and I agree it is
not exactly like soccer but more like it than NFL football. The
biggest single difference is no line of scrimmage.

We must be talking different sports. If soccer players hit like rugby players, they'd all be 'red
carded' off the field. Other than the requirement to move the ball downfield, I can't see many
similarities between soccer and rugby. Between rugby and football, yeah. You said it in your last
sentence.

Most of the violence in football is within a few yards of the line of
scrimmage. That is why they have different rules there. You have a
half dozen 300 pound guys on each side, lined up face to face snarling
at each other and on the snap they crash into each other as hard as
they can, on every play. They are not even allowed to grab each other,
they have to just knock the other guy out of the way. What could
possibly go wrong? Compared to that a scrum is just a big group hug.

Might be a group hug, but that's only to folks looking in from the outside:

https://www.kingsleynapley.co.uk/ins...s-of-the-scrum

"A scrum (short for scrummage) is a way of restarting play in rugby, where there has been a minor
infringement. In rugby union the scrum is made up of eight players from each team binding together
in 3 rows. The heads of the front row of the scrum will interlock their heads with the opposing
team’s front row. The ball is then thrown into the space between the two teams and the front rows of
both teams will compete for the ball by hooking the ball and sending it backwards with their feet,
whilst pushing the opposing team backwards.

When one considers the size and strength of the modern professional rugby player, it is no wonder
that so many players sustain spinal injuries whilst in the scrum, whether as a result of continuous
trauma over an extended period of time, or one high impact. This can be particularly dangerous where
the scrum collapses, due to the sheer force applied by each side."

Now I am pissed ...
 

On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 12:42:24 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 1/22/18 12:35 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 06:59:06 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:


8:50 AMKeyser Soze
- show quoted text -
Growing up on a dirt farm in Missouri and shooting squirrels for dinner
seems to make one a racist.
...

I guess so that is if squirrel is classsd as a “race”

Only the furry animals with the black eye shadow and a ringed tail.


I have an ex-friend who told me he goes out to a field in southern
Maryland to shoot groundhogs and other small critters. Not critters
that are pestering any not really on a higher evolutionary scale than
"hooomans," but just living their little animal lives. Disgusting.

He was *your* friend. He was 'disgusting' only after he told you he went varmint hunting?

Now I am pissed ...
 

On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 12:37:07 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 1/22/18 12:31 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 08:30:29 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 22:44:03 -0500, wrote:


We watched some rugby in New Zealand "Go All Blacks" and I agree it is
not exactly like soccer but more like it than NFL football. The
biggest single difference is no line of scrimmage.

We must be talking different sports. If soccer players hit like rugby players, they'd all be 'red
carded' off the field. Other than the requirement to move the ball downfield, I can't see many
similarities between soccer and rugby. Between rugby and football, yeah. You said it in your last
sentence.

Most of the violence in football is within a few yards of the line of
scrimmage. That is why they have different rules there. You have a
half dozen 300 pound guys on each side, lined up face to face snarling
at each other and on the snap they crash into each other as hard as
they can, on every play. They are not even allowed to grab each other,
they have to just knock the other guy out of the way. What could
possibly go wrong? Compared to that a scrum is just a big group hug.



I went to a rugby match last fall and saw the game was not much
different than when I was in college, back before electricity was
discovered. It's a rough and tumble game, for sure, but I didn't see any
Neanderthals lined up to kill or maim each other, nor anyone taking
anyone down as it is done in football. No extra violence. Pro football
is going to be sued out of existence, and the sooner the better.

You saw no tackles, eh? Must have been a girls rugby match. Either that or your bull****ting again.

Now I am pissed ...
 

On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 12:34:09 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 09:50:35 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 1/22/18 9:45 AM, Tim wrote:

On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 17:18:39 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Some of us didn’t have to grow up on a dirt farm in Missouri and have to
shoot squirrels for dinner. :)

===

Too bad for you - might have been better for it.

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....

That’s kinda how I look at it...


Growing up on a dirt farm in Missouri and shooting squirrels for dinner
seems to make one a racist.

Minnesota, Harry. And mostly rabbits. Squirrels are harder'n hell to clean.

Just unrewarding for the amount of meat you get.

Now I am pissed ...
 

On 1/22/18 12:43 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 09:50:35 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

Growing up on a dirt farm in Missouri and shooting squirrels for dinner
seems to make one a racist.

===

Tell us again about all of the volunteer work you do for
underprivileged minorities in DC and inner city Baltimore.
If nothing else you could teach classes on gun safety since they seem
to have so many accidental shootings. Actions speak much louder than
words.


Sure, asshole.

I volunteer two mornings or two afternoons a week at a food bank. In
addition to writing and planning for pay for two of my clients who
finance the construction and rehabbing of low-cost housing, I show up as
a volunteer for them at neighborhood meetings in DC, Baltimore and PG
County a couple of times a month to assist community facilitators with
paperwork and other administrative duties in connection with low-cost
housing applications. Oh, and I have a physical therapist friend who
volunteers at a clinic for stroke and heart attack recovery folks, and
if she needs sometime to pick up and take home a client who is
physically mobile but needs transportation, I'm on the "call" list.

I wouldn't presume to teach gun safety classes.

Now I am pissed ...
 

On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 12:43:54 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 12:31:17 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 08:30:29 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 22:44:03 -0500, wrote:


We watched some rugby in New Zealand "Go All Blacks" and I agree it is
not exactly like soccer but more like it than NFL football. The
biggest single difference is no line of scrimmage.

We must be talking different sports. If soccer players hit like rugby players, they'd all be 'red
carded' off the field. Other than the requirement to move the ball downfield, I can't see many
similarities between soccer and rugby. Between rugby and football, yeah. You said it in your last
sentence.

Most of the violence in football is within a few yards of the line of
scrimmage. That is why they have different rules there. You have a
half dozen 300 pound guys on each side, lined up face to face snarling
at each other and on the snap they crash into each other as hard as
they can, on every play. They are not even allowed to grab each other,
they have to just knock the other guy out of the way. What could
possibly go wrong? Compared to that a scrum is just a big group hug.

Might be a group hug, but that's only to folks looking in from the outside:

https://www.kingsleynapley.co.uk/ins...s-of-the-scrum

"A scrum (short for scrummage) is a way of restarting play in rugby, where there has been a minor
infringement. In rugby union the scrum is made up of eight players from each team binding together
in 3 rows. The heads of the front row of the scrum will interlock their heads with the opposing
team’s front row. The ball is then thrown into the space between the two teams and the front rows of
both teams will compete for the ball by hooking the ball and sending it backwards with their feet,
whilst pushing the opposing team backwards.

When one considers the size and strength of the modern professional rugby player, it is no wonder
that so many players sustain spinal injuries whilst in the scrum, whether as a result of continuous
trauma over an extended period of time, or one high impact. This can be particularly dangerous where
the scrum collapses, due to the sheer force applied by each side."

Different sport, different type of injury. Tennis players get lateral
epicondylitis and ice skaters get their knee broken with a bat.
Life is tough, wear a cup ;-)

Now I am pissed ...
 

On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 12:52:24 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 12:34:09 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 09:50:35 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 1/22/18 9:45 AM, Tim wrote:

On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 17:18:39 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Some of us didn’t have to grow up on a dirt farm in Missouri and have to
shoot squirrels for dinner. :)

===

Too bad for you - might have been better for it.

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....

That’s kinda how I look at it...


Growing up on a dirt farm in Missouri and shooting squirrels for dinner
seems to make one a racist.

Minnesota, Harry. And mostly rabbits. Squirrels are harder'n hell to clean.

Just unrewarding for the amount of meat you get.

And it's usually tougher'n hell.

Now I am pissed ...
 

On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 13:00:53 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 1/22/18 12:43 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 09:50:35 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

Growing up on a dirt farm in Missouri and shooting squirrels for dinner
seems to make one a racist.

===

Tell us again about all of the volunteer work you do for
underprivileged minorities in DC and inner city Baltimore.
If nothing else you could teach classes on gun safety since they seem
to have so many accidental shootings. Actions speak much louder than
words.


Sure, asshole.

I volunteer two mornings or two afternoons a week at a food bank. In
addition to writing and planning for pay for two of my clients who
finance the construction and rehabbing of low-cost housing, I show up as
a volunteer for them at neighborhood meetings in DC, Baltimore and PG
County a couple of times a month to assist community facilitators with
paperwork and other administrative duties in connection with low-cost
housing applications. Oh, and I have a physical therapist friend who
volunteers at a clinic for stroke and heart attack recovery folks, and
if she needs sometime to pick up and take home a client who is
physically mobile but needs transportation, I'm on the "call" list.

I wouldn't presume to teach gun safety classes.

All I can say is, "Wow!"

Now I am pissed ...
 

On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 06:59:06 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:


- show quoted text -
Only the furry animals with the black eye shadow and a ringed tail.
.....

Those are good bbq’d

Now I am pissed ...
 

On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 13:09:30 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 13:00:53 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 1/22/18 12:43 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 09:50:35 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

Growing up on a dirt farm in Missouri and shooting squirrels for dinner
seems to make one a racist.

===

Tell us again about all of the volunteer work you do for
underprivileged minorities in DC and inner city Baltimore.
If nothing else you could teach classes on gun safety since they seem
to have so many accidental shootings. Actions speak much louder than
words.


Sure, asshole.

I volunteer two mornings or two afternoons a week at a food bank. In
addition to writing and planning for pay for two of my clients who
finance the construction and rehabbing of low-cost housing, I show up as
a volunteer for them at neighborhood meetings in DC, Baltimore and PG
County a couple of times a month to assist community facilitators with
paperwork and other administrative duties in connection with low-cost
housing applications. Oh, and I have a physical therapist friend who
volunteers at a clinic for stroke and heart attack recovery folks, and
if she needs sometime to pick up and take home a client who is
physically mobile but needs transportation, I'm on the "call" list.

I wouldn't presume to teach gun safety classes.

All I can say is, "Wow!"


===

Exactly. He must do a lot of his snarky, self congratulatory internet
posting while he's on the job. Excellent multitasking ability.

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Now I am pissed ...
 

On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 10:17:03 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:


On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 06:59:06 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:


- show quoted text -
Only the furry animals with the black eye shadow and a ringed tail.
....

Those are good bbq’d

Never tried a 'coon. Tried groundhog. Roasted in oven. Too damn tough to chew. Spit out first bite
along with rest of the family. Lucky we had some hamburger in the fridge.

Now I am pissed ...
 

On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 12:50:41 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 12:42:24 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 1/22/18 12:35 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 06:59:06 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:


8:50 AMKeyser Soze
- show quoted text -
Growing up on a dirt farm in Missouri and shooting squirrels for dinner
seems to make one a racist.
...

I guess so that is if squirrel is classsd as a “race�

Only the furry animals with the black eye shadow and a ringed tail.


I have an ex-friend who told me he goes out to a field in southern
Maryland to shoot groundhogs and other small critters. Not critters
that are pestering any not really on a higher evolutionary scale than
"hooomans," but just living their little animal lives. Disgusting.

He was *your* friend. He was 'disgusting' only after he told you he went varmint hunting?

I am not sure I understand all varmint hunting but if they are really
there to limit the population of rodents because they have killed all
of the natural predators, it makes some sense.
Arizona's Senoran desert is an excellent example. They were diligent
in killing all of the rattlesnakes and now the rodents are destroying
the iconic century old Saguaro cactus. If guys want to sit in the
desert with their 5.5 Creedmores and pick off rats, good on them.

Now I am pissed ...
 

On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 13:08:33 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 12:52:24 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 12:34:09 -0500, John H
wrote:


Minnesota, Harry. And mostly rabbits. Squirrels are harder'n hell to clean.

Just unrewarding for the amount of meat you get.

And it's usually tougher'n hell.

Kind of a crock pot thing ;-)
We were hunting on the Eastern shore and the guy who owned the farm
made a decent stew with some stuff we shot. It cooked all day tho. He
started it over a propane burner and cooked it over a Sterno can after
it got going.
This was off the grid camping. There was a house, such as it is but no
power, water or heat.
We did that 2 nights until I declared an emergency and took them all
to a motel, my treat. It ended up being dirt cheap since this was
basically inland of Ocean City in the winter.
I did the same thing to the "campers" in the keys. We figured out we
could rent a damned house for what we were paying for 3 camping slots
and all of the extra add ons they charged.

Now I am pissed ...
 

On 1/22/18 4:15 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 12:50:41 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 12:42:24 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 1/22/18 12:35 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 06:59:06 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:


8:50 AMKeyser Soze
- show quoted text -
Growing up on a dirt farm in Missouri and shooting squirrels for dinner
seems to make one a racist.
...

I guess so that is if squirrel is classsd as a “race�

Only the furry animals with the black eye shadow and a ringed tail.


I have an ex-friend who told me he goes out to a field in southern
Maryland to shoot groundhogs and other small critters. Not critters
that are pestering any not really on a higher evolutionary scale than
"hooomans," but just living their little animal lives. Disgusting.

He was *your* friend. He was 'disgusting' only after he told you he went varmint hunting?

I am not sure I understand all varmint hunting but if they are really
there to limit the population of rodents because they have killed all
of the natural predators, it makes some sense.
Arizona's Senoran desert is an excellent example. They were diligent
in killing all of the rattlesnakes and now the rodents are destroying
the iconic century old Saguaro cactus. If guys want to sit in the
desert with their 5.5 Creedmores and pick off rats, good on them.


I doubt my ex-friend was trying to re-establish the balance of nature.
He and his buddies went to a large field to shoot any small critters
they saw. I suppose he saw it as some sort of sport.