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Isaiah 9:6-7 6) For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. 7) Of the greatness of his government and peace there will be no end. He will reign on David’s throne and over his kingdom, establishing and upholding it with justice and righteousness from that time on and forever. The zeal of the LORD Almighty will accomplish this.. |
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On Mon, 25 Dec 2017 07:12:21 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote: Harry, please dont choke, ar least not too badly... Isaiah 9:6-7 6) For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. 7) Of the greatness of his government and peace there will be no end. He will reign on Davids throne and over his kingdom, establishing and upholding it with justice and righteousness from that time on and forever. The zeal of the LORD Almighty will accomplish this.. === https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MS3vpAWW2Zc |
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On Monday, December 25, 2017 at 9:51:21 AM UTC-6, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 25 Dec 2017 07:12:21 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: Harry, please don’t choke, ar least not too badly... Isaiah 9:6-7 6) For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. 7) Of the greatness of his government and peace there will be no end. He will reign on David’s throne and over his kingdom, establishing and upholding it with justice and righteousness from that time on and forever. The zeal of the LORD Almighty will accomplish this.. === https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MS3vpAWW2Zc Excellent! Thanks Wayne! |
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On 12/25/17 10:12 AM, Tim wrote:
Harry, please don’t choke, ar least not too badly... Isaiah 9:6-7 6) For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. 7) Of the greatness of his government and peace there will be no end. He will reign on David’s throne and over his kingdom, establishing and upholding it with justice and righteousness from that time on and forever. The zeal of the LORD Almighty will accomplish this.. I'm familiar with the bible. As I have said here many times, the KJ version is remarkable literature, beautifully written. The Jewish passage you cited, however, is not, according to my Jewish friends, a prophesy of your Jesus. Perhaps this cite will help you understand why the prophesies were not fulfilled by your Jesus: http://jewsforjudaism.ca/why-jesus-i...ewish-messiah/ You, of course, may believe whatever you wish. In any event, have a great day with your family and friends...to me, that is the important element of Christmas. |
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On Monday, December 25, 2017 at 10:22:44 AM UTC-6, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 12/25/17 10:12 AM, Tim wrote: Harry, please don’t choke, ar least not too badly... Isaiah 9:6-7 6) For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. 7) Of the greatness of his government and peace there will be no end. He will reign on David’s throne and over his kingdom, establishing and upholding it with justice and righteousness from that time on and forever. The zeal of the LORD Almighty will accomplish this.. I'm familiar with the bible. As I have said here many times, the KJ version is remarkable literature, beautifully written. The Jewish passage you cited, however, is not, according to my Jewish friends, a prophesy of your Jesus. Perhaps this cite will help you understand why the prophesies were not fulfilled by your Jesus: http://jewsforjudaism.ca/why-jesus-i...ewish-messiah/ You, of course, may believe whatever you wish. In any event, have a great day with your family and friends...to me, that is the important element of Christmas. Oh I have and I shall. I wish you could too Well of course, they'd discount the idea of a Messiah. They're still waiting, and waiting, and waiting... https://www.gotquestions.org/Jews-reject-Jesus.html |
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On Monday, December 25, 2017 at 10:22:44 AM UTC-6, Keyser Soze wrote: On 12/25/17 10:12 AM, Tim wrote: Harry, please dont choke, ar least not too badly... Isaiah 9:6-7 6) For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. 7) Of the greatness of his government and peace there will be no end. He will reign on Davids throne and over his kingdom, establishing and upholding it with justice and righteousness from that time on and forever. The zeal of the LORD Almighty will accomplish this.. I'm familiar with the bible. As I have said here many times, the KJ version is remarkable literature, beautifully written. The Jewish passage you cited, however, is not, according to my Jewish friends, a prophesy of your Jesus. Perhaps this cite will help you understand why the prophesies were not fulfilled by your Jesus: http://jewsforjudaism.ca/why-jesus-i...ewish-messiah/ You, of course, may believe whatever you wish. In any event, have a great day with your family and friends...to me, that is the important element of Christmas. Oh I have and I shall. I wish you could too Well of course, they'd discount the idea of a Messiah. They're still waiting, and waiting, and waiting... https://www.gotquestions.org/Jews-reject-Jesus.html This explains why Harry chooses to be secular. Aparently he is in company with half the Jews. -- x ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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On 12/25/17 12:28 PM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, December 25, 2017 at 10:22:44 AM UTC-6, Keyser Soze wrote: On 12/25/17 10:12 AM, Tim wrote: Harry, please don’t choke, ar least not too badly... Isaiah 9:6-7 6) For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. 7) Of the greatness of his government and peace there will be no end. He will reign on David’s throne and over his kingdom, establishing and upholding it with justice and righteousness from that time on and forever. The zeal of the LORD Almighty will accomplish this.. I'm familiar with the bible. As I have said here many times, the KJ version is remarkable literature, beautifully written. The Jewish passage you cited, however, is not, according to my Jewish friends, a prophesy of your Jesus. Perhaps this cite will help you understand why the prophesies were not fulfilled by your Jesus: http://jewsforjudaism.ca/why-jesus-i...ewish-messiah/ You, of course, may believe whatever you wish. In any event, have a great day with your family and friends...to me, that is the important element of Christmas. Oh I have and I shall. I wish you could too Well of course, they'd discount the idea of a Messiah. They're still waiting, and waiting, and waiting... https://www.gotquestions.org/Jews-reject-Jesus.html Patience is a virtue, I've read. The only "messianic Jew" I've heard of is that right-wing lunatic lawyer of Trump's, Jay Sekulow. An actual Jew would call "messianic Jew" a contradiction in terms, as "actual" Jews don't accept any bit of your concept of Jesus as "the" messiah. It's all nonsense to me...there's no way to prove it one way or another, just as there is no way to prove the existence of a creator or god. We're having a great day here, too. I'm trying out this recipe a little later: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYxQSt58zmA No fuss, just a little mess. :) |
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- show quoted text - Patience is a virtue, I've read. The only "messianic Jew" I've heard of is that right-wing lunatic lawyer of Trump's, Jay Sekulow. An actual Jew would call "messianic Jew" a contradiction in terms, as "actual" Jews ...” ..... Oh could be about as contradictory as say the term “Afro-American” “Spanish-American” etc. |
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On Mon, 25 Dec 2017 14:37:17 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote: Jews don't accept any bit of your concept of Jesus as "the" messiah Guess that's why they killed him ;-). |
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On Mon, 25 Dec 2017 12:15:56 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:
Keyser Soze - show quoted text - Patience is a virtue, I've read. The only "messianic Jew" I've heard of is that right-wing lunatic lawyer of Trump's, Jay Sekulow. An actual Jew would call "messianic Jew" a contradiction in terms, as "actual" Jews ... .... Oh could be about as contradictory as say the term Afro-American Spanish-American etc. Wonder why we never hear the term 'European-American' which is becoming the minority! |
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On 12/25/17 3:15 PM, Tim wrote:
Keyser Soze - show quoted text - Patience is a virtue, I've read. The only "messianic Jew" I've heard of is that right-wing lunatic lawyer of Trump's, Jay Sekulow. An actual Jew would call "messianic Jew" a contradiction in terms, as "actual" Jews ...” .... Oh could be about as contradictory as say the term “Afro-American” “Spanish-American” etc. Doubtful. I don't see how it is possible to be a Jew and believe that Jesus was anything more than an ordinary man who lived (maybe) in interesting times. |
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On 12/25/17 12:46 PM, justan wrote:
Tim Wrote in message: On Monday, December 25, 2017 at 10:22:44 AM UTC-6, Keyser Soze wrote: On 12/25/17 10:12 AM, Tim wrote: Harry, please dont choke, ar least not too badly... Isaiah 9:6-7 6) For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. 7) Of the greatness of his government and peace there will be no end. He will reign on Davids throne and over his kingdom, establishing and upholding it with justice and righteousness from that time on and forever. The zeal of the LORD Almighty will accomplish this.. I'm familiar with the bible. As I have said here many times, the KJ version is remarkable literature, beautifully written. The Jewish passage you cited, however, is not, according to my Jewish friends, a prophesy of your Jesus. Perhaps this cite will help you understand why the prophesies were not fulfilled by your Jesus: http://jewsforjudaism.ca/why-jesus-i...ewish-messiah/ You, of course, may believe whatever you wish. In any event, have a great day with your family and friends...to me, that is the important element of Christmas. Oh I have and I shall. I wish you could too Well of course, they'd discount the idea of a Messiah. They're still waiting, and waiting, and waiting... https://www.gotquestions.org/Jews-reject-Jesus.html This explains why Harry chooses to be secular. Aparently he is in company with half the Jews. No, ****-for-brains, I'm a non-believer because I don't believe in fairy tales and, in the case of organized religion, all the horrors committed in its name, and, especially, all the little children dying of disease, hunger, and in war. |
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- show quoted text - Doubtful. I don't see how it is possible to be a Jew and believe that Jesus was anything more than an ordinary man who lived (maybe) in interesting times. ..... Not difficult. Hebrew by blood line (though that can in cases be hard to trace) and messianic by belief. |
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On 12/25/2017 4:06 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 12/25/17 12:46 PM, justan wrote: Tim Wrote in message: On Monday, December 25, 2017 at 10:22:44 AM UTC-6, Keyser Soze wrote: On 12/25/17 10:12 AM, Tim wrote: Harry, please dont choke, ar least not too badly... Isaiah 9:6-7 6) For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. 7) Of the greatness of his government and peace there will be no end. He will reign on Davids throne and over his kingdom, establishing and upholding it with justice and righteousness from that time on and forever. The zeal of the LORD Almighty will accomplish this.. I'm familiar with the bible. As I have said here many times, the KJ version is remarkable literature, beautifully written. The Jewish passage you cited, however, is not, according to my Jewish friends, a prophesy of your Jesus. Perhaps this cite will help you understand why the prophesies were not fulfilled by your Jesus: http://jewsforjudaism.ca/why-jesus-i...ewish-messiah/ You, of course, may believe whatever you wish. In any event, have a great day with your family and friends...to me, that is the important element of Christmas. Oh I have and I shall. I wish you could too Well of course, they'd discount the idea of a Messiah. They're still waiting, and waiting, and waiting... https://www.gotquestions.org/Jews-reject-Jesus.html This explains why Harry chooses to be secular. Aparently he is in * company with half the Jews. No, ****-for-brains, I'm a non-believer because I don't believe in fairy tales and, in the case of organized religion, all the horrors committed in its name, and, especially, all the little children dying of disease, hunger, and in war. In the evolution of mankind that resulted in cognizant thinking and the species Homo Sapiens or "Wise Man" what instilled the concept of right and wrong or good and bad? Scientist are still studying and discovering more about time frames and possible reasons but nobody knows for sure. Some think diet ... others think climate. Some think (as recently as in the 1970's) that it happened about 40,000 years ago. Newer discoveries push it back to 150,000 to 200,000 years ago. In any event the evolution from being an instinct driven, pre-human to a thinking, reasoning and questioning species, unique to this planet (as best we know) happened fairly quickly in the overall time frame of known scientific history. The concept of a supreme being .. a "God" or Gods may well have been the influencing factor. BTW ... some believe it came from alien visitors from another galaxy that early thinking man confused with being a "God". |
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On Mon, 25 Dec 2017 16:02:38 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote: On 12/25/17 3:39 PM, wrote: On Mon, 25 Dec 2017 14:37:17 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: Jews don't accept any bit of your concept of Jesus as "the" messiah Guess that's why they killed him ;-). Many religious tales are...interesting. If Jesus existed, he might have been considered a troublemaker. We kill troublemakers today...why wouldn't people 2000 or so years ago? Yeah like Vince Foster? ;-) |
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On Mon, 25 Dec 2017 16:06:03 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote: I'm a non-believer because I don't believe in fairy tales You fell for the Hope and Change fairy tale ... twice. Three times if you count 2016. |
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On 12/25/17 4:08 PM, Tim wrote:
Keyser Soze - show quoted text - Doubtful. I don't see how it is possible to be a Jew and believe that Jesus was anything more than an ordinary man who lived (maybe) in interesting times. .... Not difficult. Hebrew by blood line (though that can in cases be hard to trace) and messianic by belief. Oh, conversions. The Spaniards were good at that. |
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On Monday, December 25, 2017 at 5:45:31 PM UTC-6, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 12/25/17 4:08 PM, Tim wrote: Keyser Soze - show quoted text - Doubtful. I don't see how it is possible to be a Jew and believe that Jesus was anything more than an ordinary man who lived (maybe) in interesting times. .... Not difficult. Hebrew by blood line (though that can in cases be hard to trace) and messianic by belief. Oh, conversions. The Spaniards were good at that. What do Spaniards have to do with people converting their faith by free will? |
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On Mon, 25 Dec 2017 19:06:55 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote: On Monday, December 25, 2017 at 5:45:31 PM UTC-6, Keyser Soze wrote: On 12/25/17 4:08 PM, Tim wrote: Keyser Soze - show quoted text - Doubtful. I don't see how it is possible to be a Jew and believe that Jesus was anything more than an ordinary man who lived (maybe) in interesting times. .... Not difficult. Hebrew by blood line (though that can in cases be hard to trace) and messianic by belief. Oh, conversions. The Spaniards were good at that. What do Spaniards have to do with people converting their faith by free will? Old mr False Equivalency is comparing a creche in front of city hall with the spanish inquisition. |
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Tim Wrote in message:
On Monday, December 25, 2017 at 5:45:31 PM UTC-6, Keyser Soze wrote: On 12/25/17 4:08 PM, Tim wrote: Keyser Soze - show quoted text - Doubtful. I don't see how it is possible to be a Jew and believe that Jesus was anything more than an ordinary man who lived (maybe) in interesting times. .... Not difficult. Hebrew by blood line (though that can in cases be hard to trace) and messianic by belief. Oh, conversions. The Spaniards were good at that. What do Spaniards have to do with people converting their faith by free will? Ask a Huganaut if you can find one. -- x ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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On Tuesday, December 26, 2017 at 5:04:39 AM UTC-6, justan wrote:
Tim Wrote in message: On Monday, December 25, 2017 at 5:45:31 PM UTC-6, Keyser Soze wrote: On 12/25/17 4:08 PM, Tim wrote: Keyser Soze - show quoted text - Doubtful. I don't see how it is possible to be a Jew and believe that Jesus was anything more than an ordinary man who lived (maybe) in interesting times. .... Not difficult. Hebrew by blood line (though that can in cases be hard to trace) and messianic by belief. Oh, conversions. The Spaniards were good at that. What do Spaniards have to do with people converting their faith by free will? Ask a Huganaut if you can find one. -- x ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ That kinda goes alone with Harry's statement. Besides, like Greg implied of Harry's switching the subject. Yes I'm familiar with Louis 15 and the French Calvinists. But I'm talking about free will conversion. not the old 'kiss the cross or kiss the sword'... |
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On Monday, December 25, 2017 at 9:53:21 PM UTC-6, wrote:
On Mon, 25 Dec 2017 19:06:55 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: On Monday, December 25, 2017 at 5:45:31 PM UTC-6, Keyser Soze wrote: On 12/25/17 4:08 PM, Tim wrote: Keyser Soze - show quoted text - Doubtful. I don't see how it is possible to be a Jew and believe that Jesus was anything more than an ordinary man who lived (maybe) in interesting times. .... Not difficult. Hebrew by blood line (though that can in cases be hard to trace) and messianic by belief. Oh, conversions. The Spaniards were good at that. What do Spaniards have to do with people converting their faith by free will? Old mr False Equivalency is comparing a creche in front of city hall with the spanish inquisition. I'd say that's a fair observation... |
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On Tue, 26 Dec 2017 17:14:40 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote: On 12/26/17 4:48 PM, wrote: You are splitting hairs until you tell what "Law" "Congress" made. If the first few words of the 2d amendment define the rest, so do the first few words in the 1st, no matter what Blackmon wrote in 1962. Bear in mind the SCOTUS has a long rich history of being wrong. They are the ones who said black people could never be US citizens and that protesting the draft was a clear and present danger to the US akin to crying fire in a crowded theater. Both of those decisions were reversed, the latter in about 50 years and the former in less than 10. Who knows how a court more conservative than Warren's would rule on the narrow case of simply having symbols on public property without any official opinion of them at all. (simply a free speech zone). It has always seemed strange to me that you can advocate for criminals nazis and communists on public property but a private person advocating for god (any god) is forbidden. Your hair splitting is absurd, and so is your logic. And I don't "advocate" for criminals, nazis, and communists" on public property, but I'm pretty sure the 1st Amendment allows them to speak. Doing so does not violate the Establishment Clause. Where do you get your notions about me...from magic mushrooms you ingest? Nobody said YOU personally advocate anything but you could and we are not saying the city advocates religion when they allow a display on their property but it is clear they will allow such a display for those other things I mentioned. Why isn't a religious display as much free speech as a swastika? |
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