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Roy Moore wins Alabama Senate GOP primary runoff, CNN projects
On Wed, 27 Sep 2017 15:38:03 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote: You mean, as in the Eisenhower era, when tax rates were so much higher? People ignore the fact that there were a lot more loopholes in the code that allowed anyone but game show winners and a few high salaried people to shelter most of their income so that 90% rate did not affect them that much. It is like Buffett (Warren or Jimmy) who pay a tax rate around 12-15% in spite of a top rate of 39.6%. |
Roy Moore wins Alabama Senate GOP primary runoff, CNN projects
On Wed, 27 Sep 2017 18:48:22 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote: Life is far more complicated than it was in the 1950s and 1960s. I'm a lifelong fan of newspapers and I used to read our hometown paper cover to cover every night, including the classifieds, and there were literally hundreds of jobs available and advertised every night for unskilled, semi-skilled and skilled workers. This continued in the 1960s...I got summer jobs my first years in college via a couple of local unions, because they couldn't fill the jobs any other way - there was a shortage of workers. I worked at a boiler factory, a razor factory, and a brewery over three successive summers, and for pretty good pay. These companies were always looking for more workers. It was easy to get a job. That's not true these days. Yet 11 million (probably many more) latinos come here without any significant education, not speaking the language, facing far more discrimination than American "minorities" and still find work. |
Roy Moore wins Alabama Senate GOP primary runoff, CNN projects
On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 09:11:21 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote: So, what are these "backwards, ignorant beliefs" of the non-existent "Progressive Liberal Party"? Call a spade a spade. We are talking about democrats. You folks are the ones who tried to rebrand yourselves as "progressive". The biggest ignorant belief is that we can continue to spend money we don't have on the most nonproductive members of society and just kick the can down the road about how our kids will pay that 20 trillion dollar bill. |
Roy Moore wins Alabama Senate GOP primary runoff, CNN projects
On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 09:28:50 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote: The "super rich" are not getting a tax break. What a laugh. For starters, total elimination of the Estate Tax. I am not sure how many really rich people actually pay an estate tax to begin with. Their money is usually buried in a trust. That really seems to affect people who do not think of themselves as rich but still have assets like land and equipment that they may actually be upside down on. |
Roy Moore wins Alabama Senate GOP primary runoff, CNN projects
On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 10:42:42 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: What a laugh. For starters, total elimination of the Estate Tax. As it should ... for everyone. Meanwhile, the proposed Trump tax plan eliminates virtually all tax loopholes enjoyed by the "rich" other than mortgage interest and charitable contributions. I would not be upset if they revisited the mortgage interest deduction too, particularly for the "second home" that could be a yacht. Unfortunately that is another "jobs" program. When they imposed the short lived "luxury tax", the people most affected were the workers who built those luxuries. I do agree the mortgage deduction is just a subsidy for the housing industry but it is so deeply imbedded in our economy I doubt it is going anywhere. |
Roy Moore wins Alabama Senate GOP primary runoff, CNN projects
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Roy Moore wins Alabama Senate GOP primary runoff, CNN projects
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Roy Moore wins Alabama Senate GOP primary runoff, CNN projects
On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 12:10:55 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote: On 9/28/17 11:59 AM, wrote: On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 09:28:50 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: The "super rich" are not getting a tax break. What a laugh. For starters, total elimination of the Estate Tax. I am not sure how many really rich people actually pay an estate tax to begin with. Their money is usually buried in a trust. That really seems to affect people who do not think of themselves as rich but still have assets like land and equipment that they may actually be upside down on. The current deductible involving the estate tax is substantial. A megabuck but that is not much if you are in the heavy equipment business or own a farm. |
Roy Moore wins Alabama Senate GOP primary runoff, CNN projects
On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 12:11:56 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote: On 9/28/17 11:55 AM, wrote: On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 09:11:21 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: So, what are these "backwards, ignorant beliefs" of the non-existent "Progressive Liberal Party"? Call a spade a spade. We are talking about democrats. You folks are the ones who tried to rebrand yourselves as "progressive". The biggest ignorant belief is that we can continue to spend money we don't have on the most nonproductive members of society and just kick the can down the road about how our kids will pay that 20 trillion dollar bill. Are you trashing the military again? Most DoD spending goes to private companies hiring Davis Bacon union members who build equipment and provide civilian services.. |
Roy Moore wins Alabama Senate GOP primary runoff, CNN projects
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/28/17 8:58 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 9/28/2017 8:44 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 9/28/17 8:38 AM, justan wrote: Keyser Soze Wrote in message: On 9/28/17 7:40 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 9/27/2017 6:48 PM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 9/27/17 4:45 PM, Bill wrote: Its Me wrote: On Wednesday, September 27, 2017 at 3:38:06 PM UTC-4, Keyser Soze wrote: On 9/27/17 3:17 PM, Bill wrote: justan wrote: Keyser Soze Wrote in message: On 9/27/17 11:20 AM, Tim wrote: 8:24 AMKeyser Soze - hide quoted text - On 9/27/17 8:33 AM, Tim wrote: On Wednesday, September 27, 2017 at 5:50:31 AM UTC-5, Keyser Soze wrote: On 9/26/17 10:36 PM, Tim wrote: Harry are you feeling the love now? http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/26/politi...nge/index.html Are you talking about the love ignorant people feel for a bible-thumping, revolver-flashing fool like Moore? And if the other guy had won, it wouldn't have made any difference...both candidates were embarrassments, and perfectly suited to replace the racist, Jeff Sessions. Why, I'll bet you are pleased as punch Moore won. He's quite your type, eh? "They" are closing in on you, Harry. Like Nom-de-plume would say. "be afraid, be very afraid." LOL Keep your paranoia to yourself. It is scary, though, when ignorant, racist bible-thumpers are elected to high political office. ---- You're sounding pretty paranoid to me... Overly religious assholes who want to push their backwards, ignorant, superstitious beliefs on the general public make me nervous when they hold high political office. Moore fits that description. Better git while the gittins good. They have you in their sights. Isn'tÂ* there some athiest cult on a faraway island you can join? Actually, the ones who worry me are ultra liberal assholes who push their belief that those who work, should give most of their money to those who don't. You mean, as in the Eisenhower era, when tax rates were so much higher? In that era, it was considered shameful to be on welfare, and folks generally got off of it as quickly as they could.Â* Today we have generations of people gaming the system and seemingly proud of it. My late fishing partner was a black guy from Harrisburg, PA.Â* His youngest daughter collected welfare.Â* Was an embarrassment to the family. None had ever been on welfare.Â* Grandparents, aunts, uncles, etc. all bitched about her going on welfare.Â* She just did not want to work. Life is far more complicated than it was in the 1950s and 1960s. I'm a lifelong fan of newspapers and I used to read our hometown paper cover to cover every night, including the classifieds, and there were literally hundreds of jobs available and advertised every night for unskilled, semi-skilled and skilled workers. This continued in the 1960s...I got summer jobs my first years in college via a couple of local unions, because they couldn't fill the jobs any other way - there was a shortage of workers. I worked at a boiler factory, a razor factory, and a brewery over three successive summers, and for pretty good pay. These companies were always looking for more workers. It was easy to get a job. That's not true these days. For an number of reasons.Â* One thing you have to give to Trump.Â* He's trying to fix that. He couldn't fix a flat tire. Could you? Yup. Been there, done that. More than once. Getting a kick out of Trump's "tax plan," by the way, the plan without numbers that seems to give even more relief to the super rich and drives up the deficit. What have those morons running the GOP actually been doing the last nine months? This thing about "more relief to the super rich"Â* continues to be spread by the anti-Trump crowd despite the facts.Â* Another example of dishonest brainwashing. The "super rich" are not getting a tax break. What a laugh. For starters, total elimination of the Estate Tax. The history of the estate tax. When it was put in to law, it applied to 5 people. That is correct. FIVE. Up until a few years ago, it pretty much applied to anybody who owned a home in a decent neighborhood, and had saved during their life. |
Roy Moore wins Alabama Senate GOP primary runoff, CNN projects
wrote:
On Wed, 27 Sep 2017 15:38:03 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: You mean, as in the Eisenhower era, when tax rates were so much higher? People ignore the fact that there were a lot more loopholes in the code that allowed anyone but game show winners and a few high salaried people to shelter most of their income so that 90% rate did not affect them that much. It is like Buffett (Warren or Jimmy) who pay a tax rate around 12-15% in spite of a top rate of 39.6%. Actually their tax rate is really a lot higher. All those dividends taxed at the 20% capital gains rate were already taxed at the highest corporation tax rate in the world. 39%. So that makes those double taxed dividends at about 51%. |
Roy Moore wins Alabama Senate GOP primary runoff, CNN projects
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/28/17 11:59 AM, wrote: On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 09:28:50 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: The "super rich" are not getting a tax break. What a laugh. For starters, total elimination of the Estate Tax. I am not sure how many really rich people actually pay an estate tax to begin with. Their money is usually buried in a trust. That really seems to affect people who do not think of themselves as rich but still have assets like land and equipment that they may actually be upside down on. The current deductible involving the estate tax is substantial. Not if you own a California house. |
Roy Moore wins Alabama Senate GOP primary runoff, CNN projects
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/28/17 11:55 AM, wrote: On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 09:11:21 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: So, what are these "backwards, ignorant beliefs" of the non-existent "Progressive Liberal Party"? Call a spade a spade. We are talking about democrats. You folks are the ones who tried to rebrand yourselves as "progressive". The biggest ignorant belief is that we can continue to spend money we don't have on the most nonproductive members of society and just kick the can down the road about how our kids will pay that 20 trillion dollar bill. Are you trashing the military again? The military seems to be very productive to you. Helping rebuild PR. |
Roy Moore wins Alabama Senate GOP primary runoff, CNN projects
On 9/28/17 1:35 PM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote: On 9/28/17 11:59 AM, wrote: On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 09:28:50 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: The "super rich" are not getting a tax break. What a laugh. For starters, total elimination of the Estate Tax. I am not sure how many really rich people actually pay an estate tax to begin with. Their money is usually buried in a trust. That really seems to affect people who do not think of themselves as rich but still have assets like land and equipment that they may actually be upside down on. The current deductible involving the estate tax is substantial. Not if you own a California house. The current deductible is about $6 million. When Trump claims that cancellation of that estate tax won't benefit the rich (and himself), he is full of ****. The GOP "plan" also calls for the elimination of the Alternative Minimum Tax...something that also would have benefitted Trump enormously in the past. The GOP plan is little more than smoke and mirrors to put more $$$ in the hands of the rich. |
Roy Moore wins Alabama Senate GOP primary runoff, CNN projects
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Roy Moore wins Alabama Senate GOP primary runoff, CNN projects
On 9/28/2017 2:27 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/28/17 1:35 PM, Bill wrote: Keyser Soze wrote: On 9/28/17 11:59 AM, wrote: On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 09:28:50 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: The "super rich" are not getting a tax break. What a laugh. For starters, total elimination of the Estate Tax. I am not sure how many really rich people actually pay an estate tax to begin with. Their money is usually buried in a trust. That really seems to affect people who do not think of themselves as rich but still have assets like land and equipment that they may actually be upside down on. The current deductible involving the estate tax is substantial. Not if you own a California house. The current deductible is about $6 million. When Trump claims that cancellation of that estate tax won't benefit the rich (and himself), he is full of ****. The GOP "plan" also calls for the elimination of the Alternative Minimum Tax...something that also would have benefitted Trump enormously in the past. The GOP plan is little more than smoke and mirrors to put more $$$ in the hands of the rich. Funny. That's word for word, exactly what Pelosi said yesterday. Seems the progressive liberal communication command center is hard at work. |
Roy Moore wins Alabama Senate GOP primary runoff, CNN projects
On 9/28/2017 2:36 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/28/17 2:30 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 9/28/2017 11:55 AM, wrote: On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 09:11:21 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: So, what are these "backwards, ignorant beliefs" of the non-existent "Progressive Liberal Party"? Call a spade a spade. We are talking about democrats. You folks are the ones who tried to rebrand yourselves as "progressive". The biggest ignorant belief is that we can continue to spend money we don't have on the most nonproductive members of society and just kick the can down the road about how our kids will pay that 20 trillion dollar bill. But now, in a change of heart, Dems like Pelosi are calling any tax reform or reduction by Trump (because he's Trump) as being fiscally irresponsible.Â* She has suddenly become very frugal. I doubt this is "Trump's" tax reform. He doesn't have enough "wonkiness" to even read such a plan. At the moment, all it is isÂ* bunch of topical sentences and paragraphs that give its GOP authors and fans in congress a hard-on. Reminds me of trickle down, that rain that doesn't create jobs or end up in the pockets of the poor or middle class, but simple results in pee being sprayed on them. Didn't George H.W. Bush call it "voodoo" economics? Worked for JFK. Worked for Reagan. Worked for GWB. Who else? |
Roy Moore wins Alabama Senate GOP primary runoff, CNN projects
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Roy Moore wins Alabama Senate GOP primary runoff, CNN projects
In article ,
says... On 9/28/17 8:47 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 9/28/2017 7:57 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 9/28/17 7:37 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 9/27/2017 11:46 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 9/27/17 11:20 AM, Tim wrote: 8:24 AMKeyser Soze - hide quoted text - On 9/27/17 8:33 AM, Tim wrote: On Wednesday, September 27, 2017 at 5:50:31 AM UTC-5, Keyser Soze wrote: On 9/26/17 10:36 PM, Tim wrote: Harry are you feeling the love now? http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/26/politi...nge/index.html Are you talking about the love ignorant people feel for a bible-thumping, revolver-flashing fool like Moore? And if the other guy had won, it wouldn't have made any difference...both candidates were embarrassments, and perfectly suited to replace the racist, Jeff Sessions. Why, I'll bet you are pleased as punch Moore won. He's quite your type, eh? "They" are closing in on you, Harry. Like Nom-de-plume would say. "be afraid, be very afraid." LOL Keep your paranoia to yourself. It is scary, though, when ignorant, racist bible-thumpers are elected to high political office. ---- You're sounding pretty paranoid to me... Overly religious assholes who want to push their backwards, ignorant, superstitious beliefs on the general public make me nervous when they hold high political office. Moore fits that description. Many progressive liberal party members already holding office aren't much different when you judge them based on their backwards, ignorant beliefs that they are pushing on the general public. What's the difference? Progressive Liberal Party...hmm...not on my ballot in Maryland.* And what "backwards, ignorant beliefs" do they hold? Equality? Disdain for police murdering people? Access to decent health insurance? Disdain for the rich getting even richer at the expense of the poor? Anti-war? Anti-Trump? All you recite here is the official party line and "facts" that although *proven to be untrue continue to be repeated by you and your kind and supported by the liberal media as if they *are* true.* It's really a shame to see so many being brainwashed. So, what are these "backwards, ignorant beliefs" of the non-existent "Progressive Liberal Party"? Don't expect an honest answer from a troller. |
Roy Moore wins Alabama Senate GOP primary runoff, CNN projects
Boating All Out wrote:
In article , says... Yup. Been there, done that. More than once. Getting a kick out of Trump's "tax plan," by the way, the plan without numbers that seems to give even more relief to the super rich and drives up the deficit. What have those morons running the GOP actually been doing the last nine months? Repealing the ACA...oh, wait. What is Affordable about the ACA? |
Roy Moore wins Alabama Senate GOP primary runoff, CNN projects
On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 17:35:33 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote: wrote: On Wed, 27 Sep 2017 15:38:03 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: You mean, as in the Eisenhower era, when tax rates were so much higher? People ignore the fact that there were a lot more loopholes in the code that allowed anyone but game show winners and a few high salaried people to shelter most of their income so that 90% rate did not affect them that much. It is like Buffett (Warren or Jimmy) who pay a tax rate around 12-15% in spite of a top rate of 39.6%. Actually their tax rate is really a lot higher. All those dividends taxed at the 20% capital gains rate were already taxed at the highest corporation tax rate in the world. 39%. So that makes those double taxed dividends at about 51%. Warren says his top to bottom line is 15% so there must be plenty of loopholes in there. Since Berkshire Hathaway does not produce much, I doubt he pays much of that 39% either. After bitching about how low his tax rate is, he still hires the best accountants money can buy to be sure that rate is as low as it can be. There is a form he could file and pay more if he really feels so bad about it but he would rather have the issue than do anything about it. Jimmy is just a pirate and I am sure he uses Warren's accountant (or one similarly well skilled) to keep his taxes low. |
Roy Moore wins Alabama Senate GOP primary runoff, CNN projects
On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 18:52:49 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote: Boating All Out wrote: In article , says... Yup. Been there, done that. More than once. Getting a kick out of Trump's "tax plan," by the way, the plan without numbers that seems to give even more relief to the super rich and drives up the deficit. What have those morons running the GOP actually been doing the last nine months? Repealing the ACA...oh, wait. What is Affordable about the ACA? Nothing and that is what Rand Paul tried to point out when he talked about why he said "nay". They were just moving around the government money that funds this boondoggle. The original law was the "insurance company, big pharma and doctor relief act of 2010". It just brought customers to the insurance company at the point of a government gun and threw massive amounts of borrowed money at them if they couldn't pay. BTW most of those people who "would lose coverage" in these plans are people who are paying the fine now because they don't want the coverage. It is the necessary consequence of having to accept "pre existing conditions". You can let people wait until they have a horrible disease before they start buying insurance. Otherwise it is not really insurance. |
Roy Moore wins Alabama Senate GOP primary runoff, CNN projects
Wrote in message:
On Wed, 27 Sep 2017 18:48:22 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: Life is far more complicated than it was in the 1950s and 1960s. I'm a lifelong fan of newspapers and I used to read our hometown paper cover to cover every night, including the classifieds, and there were literally hundreds of jobs available and advertised every night for unskilled, semi-skilled and skilled workers. This continued in the 1960s...I got summer jobs my first years in college via a couple of local unions, because they couldn't fill the jobs any other way - there was a shortage of workers. I worked at a boiler factory, a razor factory, and a brewery over three successive summers, and for pretty good pay. These companies were always looking for more workers. It was easy to get a job. That's not true these days. Yet 11 million (probably many more) latinos come here without any significant education, not speaking the language, facing far more discrimination than American "minorities" and still find work. The ones who can and do speak English seem to do better. -- x ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
Roy Moore wins Alabama Senate GOP primary runoff, CNN projects
Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 9/28/17 1:35 PM, Bill wrote: Keyser Soze wrote: On 9/28/17 11:59 AM, wrote: On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 09:28:50 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: The "super rich" are not getting a tax break. What a laugh. For starters, total elimination of the Estate Tax. I am not sure how many really rich people actually pay an estate tax to begin with. Their money is usually buried in a trust. That really seems to affect people who do not think of themselves as rich but still have assets like land and equipment that they may actually be upside down on. The current deductible involving the estate tax is substantial. Not if you own a California house. The current deductible is about $6 million. When Trump claims that cancellation of that estate tax won't benefit the rich (and himself), he is full of ****. The GOP "plan" also calls for the elimination of the Alternative Minimum Tax...something that also would have benefitted Trump enormously in the past. The GOP plan is little more than smoke and mirrors to put more $$$ in the hands of the rich. If you want more money in your hands, you need toget a job. -- x ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
Roy Moore wins Alabama Senate GOP primary runoff, CNN projects
"Mr. Luddite" Wrote in message:
On 9/28/2017 2:27 PM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 9/28/17 1:35 PM, Bill wrote: Keyser Soze wrote: On 9/28/17 11:59 AM, wrote: On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 09:28:50 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: The "super rich" are not getting a tax break. What a laugh. For starters, total elimination of the Estate Tax. I am not sure how many really rich people actually pay an estate tax to begin with. Their money is usually buried in a trust. That really seems to affect people who do not think of themselves as rich but still have assets like land and equipment that they may actually be upside down on. The current deductible involving the estate tax is substantial. Not if you own a California house. The current deductible is about $6 million. When Trump claims that cancellation of that estate tax won't benefit the rich (and himself), he is full of ****. The GOP "plan" also calls for the elimination of the Alternative Minimum Tax...something that also would have benefitted Trump enormously in the past. The GOP plan is little more than smoke and mirrors to put more $$$ in the hands of the rich. Funny. That's word for word, exactly what Pelosi said yesterday. Seems the progressive liberal communication command center is hard at work. What are the odds they are telepathically connected? -- x ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
Roy Moore wins Alabama Senate GOP primary runoff, CNN projects
On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 20:50:37 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:
Wrote in message: On Wed, 27 Sep 2017 18:48:22 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: Life is far more complicated than it was in the 1950s and 1960s. I'm a lifelong fan of newspapers and I used to read our hometown paper cover to cover every night, including the classifieds, and there were literally hundreds of jobs available and advertised every night for unskilled, semi-skilled and skilled workers. This continued in the 1960s...I got summer jobs my first years in college via a couple of local unions, because they couldn't fill the jobs any other way - there was a shortage of workers. I worked at a boiler factory, a razor factory, and a brewery over three successive summers, and for pretty good pay. These companies were always looking for more workers. It was easy to get a job. That's not true these days. Yet 11 million (probably many more) latinos come here without any significant education, not speaking the language, facing far more discrimination than American "minorities" and still find work. The ones who can and do speak English seem to do better. It usually turns out most speak some english but they are not fluent and are uncomfortable speaking it badly. My spanish is as bad or worse than their english so after a minute of hearing me, they usually open up with what they have and I give them what I have. We always do just fine within the scope of what we need to communicate on the job. Typically a crew will have one guy who does most of the talking but I usually try to engage everyone. With the Latino culture it is all about respect. If you respect them, they will do their best for you. I reward that and it ends up being a great venture for all of us. My wife is the same way and she creates a gang of very loyal guys around her. |
Roy Moore wins Alabama Senate GOP primary runoff, CNN projects
On 9/28/2017 9:02 PM, justan wrote:
"Mr. Luddite" Wrote in message: On 9/28/2017 2:27 PM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 9/28/17 1:35 PM, Bill wrote: Keyser Soze wrote: On 9/28/17 11:59 AM, wrote: On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 09:28:50 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: The "super rich" are not getting a tax break. What a laugh. For starters, total elimination of the Estate Tax. I am not sure how many really rich people actually pay an estate tax to begin with. Their money is usually buried in a trust. That really seems to affect people who do not think of themselves as rich but still have assets like land and equipment that they may actually be upside down on. The current deductible involving the estate tax is substantial. Not if you own a California house. The current deductible is about $6 million. When Trump claims that cancellation of that estate tax won't benefit the rich (and himself), he is full of ****. The GOP "plan" also calls for the elimination of the Alternative Minimum Tax...something that also would have benefitted Trump enormously in the past. The GOP plan is little more than smoke and mirrors to put more $$$ in the hands of the rich. Funny. That's word for word, exactly what Pelosi said yesterday. Seems the progressive liberal communication command center is hard at work. What are the odds they are telepathically connected? Doubtful. Telepathy requires brains. More likely that Harry is on the progressive liberal "what to say" email list. |
Roy Moore wins Alabama Senate GOP primary runoff, CNN projects
On 9/29/2017 9:10 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/29/17 12:01 AM, wrote: On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 20:50:37 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote: Wrote in message: On Wed, 27 Sep 2017 18:48:22 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: Life is far more complicated than it was in the 1950s and 1960s. I'm a lifelong fan of newspapers and I used to read our hometown paper cover to cover every night, including the classifieds, and there were literally hundreds of jobs available and advertised every night for unskilled, semi-skilled and skilled workers. This continued in the 1960s...I got summer jobs my first years in college via a couple of local unions, because they couldn't fill the jobs any other way - there was a shortage of workers. I worked at a boiler factory, a razor factory, and a brewery over three successive summers, and for pretty good pay. These companies were always looking for more workers. It was easy to get a job. That's not true these days. Yet 11 million (probably many more) latinos come here without any significant education, not speaking the language, facing far more discrimination than American "minorities" and still find work. The ones who can and do speak English seem to do better. It usually turns out most speak some english but they are not fluent and are uncomfortable speaking it badly. My spanish is as bad or worse than their english so after a minute of hearing me, they usually open up with what they have and I give them what I have. We always do just fine within the scope of what we need to communicate on the job. Typically a crew will have one guy who does most of the talking but I usually try to engage everyone. With the Latino culture it is all about respect. If you respect them, they will do their best for you. I reward that and it ends up being a great venture for all of us. My wife is the same way and she creates a gang of very loyal guys around her. I have endless respect for our Latino landscaper and his crew. They are the hardest working people I know, and when they are here, we ply them with iced tea, lunch, and lots of thanks. Racist. |
Roy Moore wins Alabama Senate GOP primary runoff, CNN projects
6:27 AMMr. Luddite
- hide quoted text - On 9/29/2017 9:10 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 9/29/17 12:01 AM, wrote: On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 20:50:37 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote: Wrote in message: On Wed, 27 Sep 2017 18:48:22 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: Life is far more complicated than it was in the 1950s and 1960s. I'm a lifelong fan of newspapers and I used to read our hometown paper cover to cover every night, including the classifieds, and there were literally hundreds of jobs available and advertised every night for unskilled, semi-skilled and skilled workers. This continued in the 1960s...I got summer jobs my first years in college via a couple of local unions, because they couldn't fill the jobs any other way - there was a shortage of workers. I worked at a boiler factory, a razor factory, and a brewery over three successive summers, and for pretty good pay. These companies were always looking for more workers. It was easy to get a job. That's not true these days. Yet 11 million (probably many more) latinos come here without any significant education, not speaking the language, facing far more discrimination than American "minorities" and still find work. The ones who can and do speak English seem to do better. It usually turns out most speak some english but they are not fluent and are uncomfortable speaking it badly. My spanish is as bad or worse than their english so after a minute of hearing me, they usually open up with what they have and I give them what I have. We always do just fine within the scope of what we need to communicate on the job. Typically a crew will have one guy who does most of the talking but I usually try to engage everyone. With the Latino culture it is all about respect. If you respect them, they will do their best for you. I reward that and it ends up being a great venture for all of us. My wife is the same way and she creates a gang of very loyal guys around her. I have endless respect for our Latino landscaper and his crew. They are the hardest working people I know, and when they are here, we ply them with iced tea, lunch, and lots of thanks. Racist. .... T Buttering up the scabs. |
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