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On Mon, 21 Aug 2017 14:01:20 -0400, Keyser Soze
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I guess they had the journalistic standards of an interstate rest stop
bathroom wall, based on the writing we see here.


I've stated this many times: I see no reason to waste any time or effort
on the writing of posts for this pigpen.


Sounds like a pretty lame excuse for the supposed word smith you
profess to be.
Real writers write. bull****ters bull ****.
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On Tue, 22 Aug 2017 09:37:09 -0400, Keyser Soze
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On 8/21/17 11:44 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 21 Aug 2017 14:01:20 -0400, Keyser Soze
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I guess they had the journalistic standards of an interstate rest stop
bathroom wall, based on the writing we see here.


I've stated this many times: I see no reason to waste any time or effort
on the writing of posts for this pigpen.


Sounds like a pretty lame excuse for the supposed word smith you
profess to be.
Real writers write. bull****ters bull ****.



What it it *sounds like* to you is of no concern to me. As I have stated
many times, I am not interested in your whataboutery or whataboutitis,
nor in your direct and indirect support for extreme right-wingery, or
the fact you apparently believe there are *nice* Nazis or KKK'ers.

Sadly, you are the best of the right-wing bunch in here, when it comes
to any sort of political or current events discussion.


I just said the racists were better behaved in Charlottesville than
the BLM/antifa people and that is easily seen, simply by what did not
happen. Hundreds of containers of kerosene, lit and none landed in a
car window or in a store front. In spite of a lot of talk about
assault weapons, not a shot was fired. On the other hand I doubt a
single club carried by antifa got home without blood on it.

BTW now antifa and BLM are fighting with each other. These are just
violent thugs and the real criminals here.

I read an article by a Harvard political science professor yesterday
that called out BLM/antifa as being the un american force here. As
much as we can hate the messenger and even the message the nazis
followed the rules, got a permit to march and were not violent until
they were attacked by antifa for exercising their 1st amendment
rights.
The people of Boston did it right the other day. They came out and
PEACEFULLY protested the nazis, drowning out their message without
resorting to violence.

As long as you defend BLM and antifa you are the brown shirt here.
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On 8/22/17 11:09 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 22 Aug 2017 09:37:09 -0400, Keyser Soze
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On 8/21/17 11:44 PM,
wrote:
On Mon, 21 Aug 2017 14:01:20 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

I guess they had the journalistic standards of an interstate rest stop
bathroom wall, based on the writing we see here.


I've stated this many times: I see no reason to waste any time or effort
on the writing of posts for this pigpen.

Sounds like a pretty lame excuse for the supposed word smith you
profess to be.
Real writers write. bull****ters bull ****.



What it it *sounds like* to you is of no concern to me. As I have stated
many times, I am not interested in your whataboutery or whataboutitis,
nor in your direct and indirect support for extreme right-wingery, or
the fact you apparently believe there are *nice* Nazis or KKK'ers.

Sadly, you are the best of the right-wing bunch in here, when it comes
to any sort of political or current events discussion.


I just said the racists were better behaved in Charlottesville than
the BLM/antifa people and that is easily seen, simply by what did not
happen.



Yeah, except for the Republican-NAZI-KKK'er who ran over the woman, eh?

Several accounts I read stated the righties were not following in a
significant way the terms of their permit. In any event, the righties
were chanting some pretty horrible ****, and they certainly were trying
to see who they could egg on. Oh, and their lovely interviews added to
the problem.

The righties, despite what Trump claimed, *DID NOT* have a permit for
their activities. According to the city:

The City agreed to issue the applicant for the “Unite the Right” rally a
permit for McIntire Park rather than Emancipation Park. The applicant
chose to file a lawsuit to go to Emancipation instead. The judge issued
an injunction late Friday ordering the City to allow the event to take
place in Emancipation Park. This quick turnaround, and the court order,
meant that a formal permit for the event was not issued. The City did
comply with the court’s direction.

The counter-protestors did have permits, but for a different space.
According to a law professor, no permit was needed for them to be in
Emancipation Park because it is a public space, a point backed up by the
city government.

Be that as it may, I find it disgusting that anyone decent would give
"shelter" to the NAZI-KKK'ers for any reason. There are limits to free
speech, and these Trump supporters go way beyond them. They knew better
than to pull their crap in Boston, though...the KKK-NAZIs were
hopelessly outnumber and if they started up their usual crap, they might
have been slaughtered.

I still am enjoying the "outing" of the right-wing pigs in terms of
theme being disowned by family members, losing their jobs, and being
"afraid."

Many decades ago, George Lincoln Rockwell showed up at the Kansas campus
for a perfectly legal presentation of his typical college hate talk. He
was using a blackboard and chalk in the student union to draw a
cartoonish picture of a Jew, complete with a very large nose. One of my
proudest college moments was shouting out, "How about Pinocchio, you
asshole, was he Jewish?" Well, that broke up the audience, and that
particular NAZI pig was not able to continue, because virtually everyone
was laughing at him.

I'm not sure whether it is legal to call out Donald Trump, as in "Hey,
Trump, you're a lying, ignorant asshole...why don't you quit?" That
seems okay, maybe, but of course physically threatening him is not.

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On Tue, 22 Aug 2017 14:26:42 -0400, Keyser Soze
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cIntire Park rather than Emancipation Park. The applicant
chose to file a lawsuit to go to Emancipation instead. The judge issued
an injunction late Friday ordering the City to allow the event to take
place in Emancipation Park. This quick turnaround, and the court order,
meant that a formal permit for the event was not issued. The City did
comply with the court’s direction.

The counter-protestors did have permits, but for a different space.


Then they didn't have a permit to be where they were. The court gave
the nazis their permit.
I know you don't like courts when they disagree with you tho.
In fact it was your buddies, the anti war protestors who gave the
nazis the right to march. When the draft protestors went to court to
overturn SCHENCK v. U.S. it became legal to "cry fire in a crowded
theater" and to use language that might present "a clear and present
danger" (both phrases coming from Oliver Wendell Holmes in the Schenck
decision).
As long as the message is wrapped in a political context, you can
march and say any "****ing" thing you want
("****" being protected speech too, coming from another decision
about war/draft protestors)
Rockwell used those decisions to fight for his Skokie march and I
assume came up in the Charlottesville case.
You really have to be careful what you wish for when you pursue
unpopular free speech suits.


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On 8/22/17 3:17 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 22 Aug 2017 14:26:42 -0400, Keyser Soze
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cIntire Park rather than Emancipation Park. The applicant
chose to file a lawsuit to go to Emancipation instead. The judge issued
an injunction late Friday ordering the City to allow the event to take
place in Emancipation Park. This quick turnaround, and the court order,
meant that a formal permit for the event was not issued. The City did
comply with the court’s direction.

The counter-protestors did have permits, but for a different space.


Then they didn't have a permit to be where they were. The court gave
the nazis their permit.
I know you don't like courts when they disagree with you tho.
In fact it was your buddies, the anti war protestors who gave the
nazis the right to march. When the draft protestors went to court to
overturn SCHENCK v. U.S. it became legal to "cry fire in a crowded
theater" and to use language that might present "a clear and present
danger" (both phrases coming from Oliver Wendell Holmes in the Schenck
decision).
As long as the message is wrapped in a political context, you can
march and say any "****ing" thing you want
("****" being protected speech too, coming from another decision
about war/draft protestors)
Rockwell used those decisions to fight for his Skokie march and I
assume came up in the Charlottesville case.
You really have to be careful what you wish for when you pursue
unpopular free speech suits.


I'm aware of the legalities for these marches, but I don't have to agree
with granting permits to actual hate groups with a long history of
violence and whose marchers openly carry firearms, wear masks, and
obviously are itching for a fight. Obviously, it is difficult to draw a
line, but there shouldn't be any doubt about the Klan or the NAZIs.
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On Tue, 22 Aug 2017 16:07:29 -0400, Keyser Soze
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On 8/22/17 3:17 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 22 Aug 2017 14:26:42 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

cIntire Park rather than Emancipation Park. The applicant
chose to file a lawsuit to go to Emancipation instead. The judge issued
an injunction late Friday ordering the City to allow the event to take
place in Emancipation Park. This quick turnaround, and the court order,
meant that a formal permit for the event was not issued. The City did
comply with the court’s direction.

The counter-protestors did have permits, but for a different space.


Then they didn't have a permit to be where they were. The court gave
the nazis their permit.
I know you don't like courts when they disagree with you tho.
In fact it was your buddies, the anti war protestors who gave the
nazis the right to march. When the draft protestors went to court to
overturn SCHENCK v. U.S. it became legal to "cry fire in a crowded
theater" and to use language that might present "a clear and present
danger" (both phrases coming from Oliver Wendell Holmes in the Schenck
decision).
As long as the message is wrapped in a political context, you can
march and say any "****ing" thing you want
("****" being protected speech too, coming from another decision
about war/draft protestors)
Rockwell used those decisions to fight for his Skokie march and I
assume came up in the Charlottesville case.
You really have to be careful what you wish for when you pursue
unpopular free speech suits.


I'm aware of the legalities for these marches, but I don't have to agree
with granting permits to actual hate groups with a long history of
violence and whose marchers openly carry firearms, wear masks, and
obviously are itching for a fight. Obviously, it is difficult to draw a
line, but there shouldn't be any doubt about the Klan or the NAZIs.


That applies equally to BLM and antifa. Unfortunately they all have
more rights than a sane person would give them. Thanks 60s guys.
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