On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 11:46:05 -0400, John H
wrote:

I'd had my dog on Benadryl (generic stuff) for a few years prior to that.
The vet said it was a good thing, probably helped. She'll be on that stuff for the rest of her life,

I found the easiest way was to grind up the whole bottle of pills in a
blender and use a measuring spoon to put it in food. A quarter tsp =
~100 mg of Costco benadryl. (based on weighing 4 pills and then
weighing the powder on my reloading powder scale)

On Thursday, 29 June 2017 10:23:21 UTC-3, John H wrote:
On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 05:53:32 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

On Thursday, 29 June 2017 01:45:41 UTC-3, wrote:
On Wed, 28 Jun 2017 16:13:44 -0400, John H
wrote:

My condolences on your loss. Heard the bad news about Ed through the grapevine today. Sorry to hear
it.

Yeah it is always hard. I think the girls at the vets were as upset as
anyone. They all loved "goofy old Ed".
The cancer stayed in remission for 3 years and then just exploded on
us. That golf ball sized tumor grew to the size and color of an
eggplant in about a week and a half. It was the last chance for him to
go and not be in pain.
Do me too if I get that sick.



Sorry to hear that. A neighbour's dog is almost in a similar situation.
My Springer Spaniel has some kind of stomach ailment that hasn't been diagnosed yet..after x-rays, ultra sounds ... expensive low fat food etc, the vet is guessing either an ulcer or irritable bowel disorder. I hope they pin point it so we can stop the weekly cycle attacks of soft, sometimes bloody poop and no desire to eat for a day or so.

For very similar symptoms my vet, a very principled man, prescribed tylan powder. Solved the
problem.

Tylan Powder for Dogs – Indications

There are many indications of Tylan powder for dogs due to the antibiotic properties including many
gastrointestinal disorders such as colitis, inflammatory bowel disease, and chronic diarrhea. The GI
effects have been known to give relief to both acute and chronic GI illnesses by providing relief to
the smooth muscles within the intestinal tract. Some of the symptoms which are known to get relief
include diarrhea, constipation, and other related problems.

http://tylanpowder.com/tylan-powder-...s-indications/


I'll mention this to our vet.
Right now the vet is trying him out on Sucralfate (APO) 1 gram tablets and Omeprazole 20mg tablets...the second I was able to get at Costco Pharmacy for $12.00

On Thursday, 29 June 2017 12:57:38 UTC-3, John H wrote:
On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 11:37:24 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 08:22:09 -0600 (MDT), justan wrote:

Wrote in message:
On Wed, 28 Jun 2017 16:13:44 -0400, John H
wrote:

My condolences on your loss. Heard the bad news about Ed through the grapevine today. Sorry to hear
it.

Yeah it is always hard. I think the girls at the vets were as upset as
anyone. They all loved "goofy old Ed".
The cancer stayed in remission for 3 years and then just exploded on
us. That golf ball sized tumor grew to the size and color of an
eggplant in about a week and a half. It was the last chance for him to
go and not be in pain.
Do me too if I get that sick.

Sorry for your loss Greg. Being a dog lover myself,
I know the hurt you are feeling. Time or a puppy will soften the
pain. :-)

We will have another dog. It will be an adult rescue if the past is
any indication.

Here ya go!

https://www.petfinder.com/petdetail/38276387

There must be lots of retired Greyhounds down there looking for a home. Someone trucks a bunch all the way up here each year.

On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 12:00:18 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 11:46:05 -0400, John H
wrote:

I'd had my dog on Benadryl (generic stuff) for a few years prior to that.
The vet said it was a good thing, probably helped. She'll be on that stuff for the rest of her life,

I found the easiest way was to grind up the whole bottle of pills in a
blender and use a measuring spoon to put it in food. A quarter tsp =
~100 mg of Costco benadryl. (based on weighing 4 pills and then
weighing the powder on my reloading powder scale)

I have to give mine 1/8 tsp tylan powder along with the diphenhydramine. I make capsules with the
tylan powder and give her that and the pill with peanut butter down her throat. Rubbing her nose
right after pulling my finger out of her mouth causes her to lick her nose and therefore swallow the
pills. Works every time.

On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 11:57:37 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 11:37:24 -0400, wrote:


We will have another dog. It will be an adult rescue if the past is
any indication.

Here ya go!

https://www.petfinder.com/petdetail/38276387

One of my neighbors is a director at Lab Rescue. I am going to start
there. I like a big yellow dog ;-)
Mr Ed was the best dog I have ever had once he got over the abuse
problems he had before we got him. It took a little while to rebuild
trust and then he was the perfect dog. Never did anything bad in the
house, not a hint of aggression, great with kids and other dogs.

On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 12:57:31 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 12:00:18 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 11:46:05 -0400, John H
wrote:

I'd had my dog on Benadryl (generic stuff) for a few years prior to that.
The vet said it was a good thing, probably helped. She'll be on that stuff for the rest of her life,

I found the easiest way was to grind up the whole bottle of pills in a
blender and use a measuring spoon to put it in food. A quarter tsp =
~100 mg of Costco benadryl. (based on weighing 4 pills and then
weighing the powder on my reloading powder scale)

I have to give mine 1/8 tsp tylan powder along with the diphenhydramine. I make capsules with the
tylan powder and give her that and the pill with peanut butter down her throat. Rubbing her nose
right after pulling my finger out of her mouth causes her to lick her nose and therefore swallow the
pills. Works every time.

Ed was never good with pills. If you put them in peanut butter or just
about anything else, he would spit out the pill. I was not ready to
wrestle with a 110 pound dog trying to force it down. Mixing the
powder with the food was a whole lot easier. I always gave him a golf
ball sized teaser of some kind of chopped up meat in his dry food and
I mixed the benadryl in that.

On 6/29/2017 1:14 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 12:57:31 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 12:00:18 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 11:46:05 -0400, John H
wrote:

I'd had my dog on Benadryl (generic stuff) for a few years prior to that.
The vet said it was a good thing, probably helped. She'll be on that stuff for the rest of her life,

I found the easiest way was to grind up the whole bottle of pills in a
blender and use a measuring spoon to put it in food. A quarter tsp =
~100 mg of Costco benadryl. (based on weighing 4 pills and then
weighing the powder on my reloading powder scale)

I have to give mine 1/8 tsp tylan powder along with the diphenhydramine. I make capsules with the
tylan powder and give her that and the pill with peanut butter down her throat. Rubbing her nose
right after pulling my finger out of her mouth causes her to lick her nose and therefore swallow the
pills. Works every time.

Ed was never good with pills. If you put them in peanut butter or just
about anything else, he would spit out the pill. I was not ready to
wrestle with a 110 pound dog trying to force it down. Mixing the
powder with the food was a whole lot easier. I always gave him a golf
ball sized teaser of some kind of chopped up meat in his dry food and
I mixed the benadryl in that.


Heh. I had the same problem with Sam Adams. I fooled him a few times
by putting his pill in those "pill pockets" they sell but he figured it
out. He'd eat the tasty pill pocket and spit the pill out.
So, I'd give him one without a pill in it which he would quickly gobble
down, followed by another with a pill. Somehow, he'd eat the pill
pocket treat but spit the pill out.

I tried simply emptying the contents of the pill and mixing it in his
food. He'd go over, sniff at his bowl, look at me with an expression
like, "nice try" and walk away. It got to the point where even if
resorted to the age old, put it in his mouth, hold his mouth shut and
wait for the tongue to come out a few times indicating he had swallowed
didn't work. As soon as I let his mouth go, he spit the stupid pill out.

I think it became a game for him.


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On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 13:47:32 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 6/29/2017 1:14 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 12:57:31 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 12:00:18 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 11:46:05 -0400, John H
wrote:

I'd had my dog on Benadryl (generic stuff) for a few years prior to that.
The vet said it was a good thing, probably helped. She'll be on that stuff for the rest of her life,

I found the easiest way was to grind up the whole bottle of pills in a
blender and use a measuring spoon to put it in food. A quarter tsp =
~100 mg of Costco benadryl. (based on weighing 4 pills and then
weighing the powder on my reloading powder scale)

I have to give mine 1/8 tsp tylan powder along with the diphenhydramine. I make capsules with the
tylan powder and give her that and the pill with peanut butter down her throat. Rubbing her nose
right after pulling my finger out of her mouth causes her to lick her nose and therefore swallow the
pills. Works every time.

Ed was never good with pills. If you put them in peanut butter or just
about anything else, he would spit out the pill. I was not ready to
wrestle with a 110 pound dog trying to force it down. Mixing the
powder with the food was a whole lot easier. I always gave him a golf
ball sized teaser of some kind of chopped up meat in his dry food and
I mixed the benadryl in that.


Heh. I had the same problem with Sam Adams. I fooled him a few times
by putting his pill in those "pill pockets" they sell but he figured it
out. He'd eat the tasty pill pocket and spit the pill out.
So, I'd give him one without a pill in it which he would quickly gobble
down, followed by another with a pill. Somehow, he'd eat the pill
pocket treat but spit the pill out.

I tried simply emptying the contents of the pill and mixing it in his
food. He'd go over, sniff at his bowl, look at me with an expression
like, "nice try" and walk away. It got to the point where even if
resorted to the age old, put it in his mouth, hold his mouth shut and
wait for the tongue to come out a few times indicating he had swallowed
didn't work. As soon as I let his mouth go, he spit the stupid pill out.

I think it became a game for him.


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Pill pockets, mixing in food or water (unless canned food) didn't work with the tylan. That stuff
must taste and smell absolutely horrible. I put peanut butter on tip of forefinger and pick up the
pills with the pb-finger. Open mouth with other hand, putting a finger behind the canine and quickly
insert the pill finger and rub them off on the roof of her mouth. As I'm bringing the pill finger
out I rub the remainder of the pb on her nose. She licks and pills are gone. Works every time.

On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 13:47:32 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 6/29/2017 1:14 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 12:57:31 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 12:00:18 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 11:46:05 -0400, John H
wrote:

I'd had my dog on Benadryl (generic stuff) for a few years prior to that.
The vet said it was a good thing, probably helped. She'll be on that stuff for the rest of her life,

I found the easiest way was to grind up the whole bottle of pills in a
blender and use a measuring spoon to put it in food. A quarter tsp =
~100 mg of Costco benadryl. (based on weighing 4 pills and then
weighing the powder on my reloading powder scale)

I have to give mine 1/8 tsp tylan powder along with the diphenhydramine. I make capsules with the
tylan powder and give her that and the pill with peanut butter down her throat. Rubbing her nose
right after pulling my finger out of her mouth causes her to lick her nose and therefore swallow the
pills. Works every time.

Ed was never good with pills. If you put them in peanut butter or just
about anything else, he would spit out the pill. I was not ready to
wrestle with a 110 pound dog trying to force it down. Mixing the
powder with the food was a whole lot easier. I always gave him a golf
ball sized teaser of some kind of chopped up meat in his dry food and
I mixed the benadryl in that.


Heh. I had the same problem with Sam Adams. I fooled him a few times
by putting his pill in those "pill pockets" they sell but he figured it
out. He'd eat the tasty pill pocket and spit the pill out.
So, I'd give him one without a pill in it which he would quickly gobble
down, followed by another with a pill. Somehow, he'd eat the pill
pocket treat but spit the pill out.

I tried simply emptying the contents of the pill and mixing it in his
food. He'd go over, sniff at his bowl, look at me with an expression
like, "nice try" and walk away. It got to the point where even if
resorted to the age old, put it in his mouth, hold his mouth shut and
wait for the tongue to come out a few times indicating he had swallowed
didn't work. As soon as I let his mouth go, he spit the stupid pill out.

I think it became a game for him.



Mixing it with the meat I put in the food seemed to work. The kibble
was still the same stuff and the meat was a treat. After a while he
got used to the benadryl and gave me a funny look if I didn't put it
in.
The funny thing was he would just eat a prednesone pill. I could just
toss it to him.

On Thursday, June 29, 2017 at 12:45:41 AM UTC-4, wrote:
On Wed, 28 Jun 2017 16:13:44 -0400, John H
wrote:

My condolences on your loss. Heard the bad news about Ed through the grapevine today. Sorry to hear
it.

Yeah it is always hard. I think the girls at the vets were as upset as
anyone. They all loved "goofy old Ed".
The cancer stayed in remission for 3 years and then just exploded on
us. That golf ball sized tumor grew to the size and color of an
eggplant in about a week and a half. It was the last chance for him to
go and not be in pain.
Do me too if I get that sick.

Sorry to hear it, Greg. As hard as it is, you have to remember you gave him a good life.