The day after Nancy Pelosi joined others in calling for political unity
following the Virginia shootings, she went on the war path again blaming
the shootings on Trump, Republicans in general, FoxNews and others.

Must be taking blame lessons from Hillary.


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On 6/15/17 5:52 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

The day after Nancy Pelosi joined others in calling for political unity
following the Virginia shootings, she went on the war path again blaming
the shootings on Trump, Republicans in general, FoxNews and others.

Must be taking blame lessons from Hillary.


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Trump spent a lot of time last year urging and condoning violence on the
part of his supporters.

On 6/15/2017 6:16 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 6/15/17 5:52 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

The day after Nancy Pelosi joined others in calling for political
unity following the Virginia shootings, she went on the war path again
blaming the shootings on Trump, Republicans in general, FoxNews and
others.

Must be taking blame lessons from Hillary.


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Trump spent a lot of time last year urging and condoning violence on the
part of his supporters.


Bull****.

On Thu, 15 Jun 2017 18:16:17 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 6/15/17 5:52 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

The day after Nancy Pelosi joined others in calling for political unity
following the Virginia shootings, she went on the war path again blaming
the shootings on Trump, Republicans in general, FoxNews and others.

Must be taking blame lessons from Hillary.


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Trump spent a lot of time last year urging and condoning violence on the
part of his supporters.

Yet it was a Sanders guy who shot up the place.

On 6/15/17 7:21 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 6/15/2017 6:16 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 6/15/17 5:52 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

The day after Nancy Pelosi joined others in calling for political
unity following the Virginia shootings, she went on the war path
again blaming the shootings on Trump, Republicans in general, FoxNews
and others.

Must be taking blame lessons from Hillary.


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Trump spent a lot of time last year urging and condoning violence on
the part of his supporters.


Bull****.

Oh? You missed Trump at his pre-election rallies urging his supporters
to "knock the crap" out of protestors, and promising to pay their legal
fees if they did? Where were you, on another planet? Trump did this many
times, and it was covered by print, on-line and cable news media.

On 6/16/2017 6:24 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 6/15/17 7:21 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 6/15/2017 6:16 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 6/15/17 5:52 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

The day after Nancy Pelosi joined others in calling for political
unity following the Virginia shootings, she went on the war path
again blaming the shootings on Trump, Republicans in general,
FoxNews and others.

Must be taking blame lessons from Hillary.


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Trump spent a lot of time last year urging and condoning violence on
the part of his supporters.


Bull****.

Oh? You missed Trump at his pre-election rallies urging his supporters
to "knock the crap" out of protestors, and promising to pay their legal
fees if they did? Where were you, on another planet? Trump did this many
times, and it was covered by print, on-line and cable news media.

I recall Trump saying things like, "Get them out" when protesters tried
interrupting some of his campaign rallies, some with violence that the
protesters initiated. Hardly inciting violence, IMO. And sure, it was
covered by print, on-line and cable news media, just like the same cover
him now with their progressive liberal slants.

Get over it. He's the POTUS. You'll have your opportunity again in 2020.

On 6/16/17 6:49 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 6/16/2017 6:24 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 6/15/17 7:21 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 6/15/2017 6:16 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 6/15/17 5:52 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

The day after Nancy Pelosi joined others in calling for political
unity following the Virginia shootings, she went on the war path
again blaming the shootings on Trump, Republicans in general,
FoxNews and others.

Must be taking blame lessons from Hillary.


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Trump spent a lot of time last year urging and condoning violence on
the part of his supporters.


Bull****.

Oh? You missed Trump at his pre-election rallies urging his supporters
to "knock the crap" out of protestors, and promising to pay their
legal fees if they did? Where were you, on another planet? Trump did
this many times, and it was covered by print, on-line and cable news
media.

I recall Trump saying things like, "Get them out" when protesters tried
interrupting some of his campaign rallies, some with violence that the
protesters initiated. Hardly inciting violence, IMO. And sure, it was
covered by print, on-line and cable news media, just like the same cover
him now with their progressive liberal slants.

Get over it. He's the POTUS. You'll have your opportunity again in 2020.



Trump said a lot more than "get them out," but,of course, you've turned
a blind eye and ear to Trump's transgressions. The best we can hope for
is Trump tied up in knots politically, unless, of course, he resigns.

"Progressive liberal" Love it.

On 6/16/2017 7:26 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 6/16/17 6:49 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 6/16/2017 6:24 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 6/15/17 7:21 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 6/15/2017 6:16 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 6/15/17 5:52 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

The day after Nancy Pelosi joined others in calling for political
unity following the Virginia shootings, she went on the war path
again blaming the shootings on Trump, Republicans in general,
FoxNews and others.

Must be taking blame lessons from Hillary.


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Trump spent a lot of time last year urging and condoning violence
on the part of his supporters.


Bull****.

Oh? You missed Trump at his pre-election rallies urging his
supporters to "knock the crap" out of protestors, and promising to
pay their legal fees if they did? Where were you, on another planet?
Trump did this many times, and it was covered by print, on-line and
cable news media.

I recall Trump saying things like, "Get them out" when protesters
tried interrupting some of his campaign rallies, some with violence
that the protesters initiated. Hardly inciting violence, IMO. And
sure, it was covered by print, on-line and cable news media, just like
the same cover him now with their progressive liberal slants.

Get over it. He's the POTUS. You'll have your opportunity again in
2020.



Trump said a lot more than "get them out," but,of course, you've turned
a blind eye and ear to Trump's transgressions. The best we can hope for
is Trump tied up in knots politically, unless, of course, he resigns.

"Progressive liberal" Love it.

Eventually the combination of the term "progressive liberal" will
separate and become two, distinct political ideologies. We'll have
"progressives", "liberals" and "conservatives".

Many aspects of liberal ideology I can agree with as can I with many
aspects of conservative ideology. "Progressives" like yourself, can't
even consider the ideology of either traditional liberals or
conservatives. You refuse to read anything that has a conservative
slant or watch any media known for having a conservative bias. It's
"below" you, as a progressive and, of course, it *must* be bull**** to
you (without even giving it any consideration).

That's why I can't embrace progressive ideology, even though (unlike
you) I am willing to at least listen and read before I draw a conclusion.

Progressive ideology to me is too close to European style socialism.
I don't think the USA is designed for or made for European style
socialism and that is the most significant difference in how we view
things.

On 6/16/17 7:38 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 6/16/2017 7:26 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 6/16/17 6:49 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 6/16/2017 6:24 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 6/15/17 7:21 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 6/15/2017 6:16 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 6/15/17 5:52 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

The day after Nancy Pelosi joined others in calling for political
unity following the Virginia shootings, she went on the war path
again blaming the shootings on Trump, Republicans in general,
FoxNews and others.

Must be taking blame lessons from Hillary.


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Trump spent a lot of time last year urging and condoning violence
on the part of his supporters.


Bull****.

Oh? You missed Trump at his pre-election rallies urging his
supporters to "knock the crap" out of protestors, and promising to
pay their legal fees if they did? Where were you, on another planet?
Trump did this many times, and it was covered by print, on-line and
cable news media.

I recall Trump saying things like, "Get them out" when protesters
tried interrupting some of his campaign rallies, some with violence
that the protesters initiated. Hardly inciting violence, IMO. And
sure, it was covered by print, on-line and cable news media, just
like the same cover him now with their progressive liberal slants.

Get over it. He's the POTUS. You'll have your opportunity again in
2020.



Trump said a lot more than "get them out," but,of course, you've
turned a blind eye and ear to Trump's transgressions. The best we can
hope for is Trump tied up in knots politically, unless, of course, he
resigns.

"Progressive liberal" Love it.

Eventually the combination of the term "progressive liberal" will
separate and become two, distinct political ideologies. We'll have
"progressives", "liberals" and "conservatives".

Many aspects of liberal ideology I can agree with as can I with many
aspects of conservative ideology. "Progressives" like yourself, can't
even consider the ideology of either traditional liberals or
conservatives. You refuse to read anything that has a conservative
slant or watch any media known for having a conservative bias. It's
"below" you, as a progressive and, of course, it *must* be bull**** to
you (without even giving it any consideration).

That's why I can't embrace progressive ideology, even though (unlike
you) I am willing to at least listen and read before I draw a conclusion.

Progressive ideology to me is too close to European style socialism.
I don't think the USA is designed for or made for European style
socialism and that is the most significant difference in how we view
things.


I don't separate "progressive liberal" into two distinct words for the
purposes you describe here. Liberals *are* per se progressive.
Naturally, there is a range of belief within liberalism. My socialist
buddies are more liberal than I am in certain areas, and less liberal in
other areas. But we'd all describe ourselves as progressive liberals.

I do read pieces that have a conservative slant. I do not watch Fox
News, but I do see an occasional bit from that network in other places.
I will admit that much of what is supposedly news and commentary from
"the right" gives me the giggles.

I'm not sure what economic system would be best for the future of this
country. I do believe that "capitalism" has taken us down a road that is
leading to the destruction of the lower and middle income classes. Too
much wealth in concentrated in the hands of the truly wealthy, more than
ever before, and even the crumbs are being swept that way.

On 6/16/2017 7:52 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 6/16/17 7:38 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 6/16/2017 7:26 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 6/16/17 6:49 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 6/16/2017 6:24 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 6/15/17 7:21 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 6/15/2017 6:16 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 6/15/17 5:52 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

The day after Nancy Pelosi joined others in calling for
political unity following the Virginia shootings, she went on
the war path again blaming the shootings on Trump, Republicans
in general, FoxNews and others.

Must be taking blame lessons from Hillary.


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Trump spent a lot of time last year urging and condoning violence
on the part of his supporters.


Bull****.

Oh? You missed Trump at his pre-election rallies urging his
supporters to "knock the crap" out of protestors, and promising to
pay their legal fees if they did? Where were you, on another
planet? Trump did this many times, and it was covered by print,
on-line and cable news media.

I recall Trump saying things like, "Get them out" when protesters
tried interrupting some of his campaign rallies, some with violence
that the protesters initiated. Hardly inciting violence, IMO. And
sure, it was covered by print, on-line and cable news media, just
like the same cover him now with their progressive liberal slants.

Get over it. He's the POTUS. You'll have your opportunity again in
2020.



Trump said a lot more than "get them out," but,of course, you've
turned a blind eye and ear to Trump's transgressions. The best we can
hope for is Trump tied up in knots politically, unless, of course, he
resigns.

"Progressive liberal" Love it.

Eventually the combination of the term "progressive liberal" will
separate and become two, distinct political ideologies. We'll have
"progressives", "liberals" and "conservatives".

Many aspects of liberal ideology I can agree with as can I with many
aspects of conservative ideology. "Progressives" like yourself, can't
even consider the ideology of either traditional liberals or
conservatives. You refuse to read anything that has a conservative
slant or watch any media known for having a conservative bias. It's
"below" you, as a progressive and, of course, it *must* be bull**** to
you (without even giving it any consideration).

That's why I can't embrace progressive ideology, even though (unlike
you) I am willing to at least listen and read before I draw a conclusion.

Progressive ideology to me is too close to European style socialism.
I don't think the USA is designed for or made for European style
socialism and that is the most significant difference in how we view
things.


I don't separate "progressive liberal" into two distinct words for the
purposes you describe here. Liberals *are* per se progressive.
Naturally, there is a range of belief within liberalism. My socialist
buddies are more liberal than I am in certain areas, and less liberal in
other areas. But we'd all describe ourselves as progressive liberals.

I do read pieces that have a conservative slant. I do not watch Fox
News, but I do see an occasional bit from that network in other places.
I will admit that much of what is supposedly news and commentary from
"the right" gives me the giggles.

I'm not sure what economic system would be best for the future of this
country. I do believe that "capitalism" has taken us down a road that is
leading to the destruction of the lower and middle income classes. Too
much wealth in concentrated in the hands of the truly wealthy, more than
ever before, and even the crumbs are being swept that way.



The term "Progressive" has been around for a long time but has taken on
different meanings over the years. In fact, at one time there *were*
three, distinct political ideologies consisting of "progressives",
"liberals" and "conservatives". Progressives emerged from the extreme
left of the liberal ideology and originally had it's roots in socialism
and even communism. It remained a minor component of the general
"liberal" group but in recent years has taken on a major, leading role
in what used to be traditional liberalism. You tend to subscribe to
it's modern tenets, as demonstrated in your comments above.

That's why we will never agree.