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On Wed, 31 May 2017 19:33:33 -0400, Poco Deplorevole
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Elon Musk thinking out of the box and capable of funding their own R&D
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On Wed, 31 May 2017 19:33:33 -0400, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

The Stratolaunch:


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That's incredible. It's good that we have guys like Paul Allen and
Elon Musk thinking out of the box and capable of funding their own R&D
for this kind of project.

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Elon is highly funded by the taxpayers. Of his 3 businesses, all depend on
huge subsidies. Solar, Tesla, and Space X. Space X, has crap testing,
documentation, and a lock because they are the only US company.

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On Thu, 1 Jun 2017 04:14:40 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

wrote:
On Wed, 31 May 2017 19:33:33 -0400, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

The Stratolaunch:


===

That's incredible. It's good that we have guys like Paul Allen and
Elon Musk thinking out of the box and capable of funding their own R&D
for this kind of project.




Elon is highly funded by the taxpayers. Of his 3 businesses, all depend on
huge subsidies. Solar, Tesla, and Space X. Space X, has crap testing,
documentation, and a lock because they are the only US company.

===

Did you forget about Boeing and Lockheed-Martin?

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On 6/1/17 12:14 AM, Bill wrote:
wrote:
On Wed, 31 May 2017 19:33:33 -0400, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

The Stratolaunch:


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Elon Musk thinking out of the box and capable of funding their own R&D
for this kind of project.

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Elon is highly funded by the taxpayers. Of his 3 businesses, all depend on
huge subsidies. Solar, Tesla, and Space X. Space X, has crap testing,
documentation, and a lock because they are the only US company.


What? A corporation receiving a subsidy? Here in 'Merica? I'm shocked.

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American forestry interests continually convince your rulers to throw tariffs on our lumber exports on the pretense that we provide subsidies to them. Canada wins every time we go to GATT to dispute this but 'murica seems to feel it's above international dispute mechanisms.

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On Thu, 1 Jun 2017 06:33:36 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:

American forestry interests continually convince your rulers to throw tariffs on our lumber exports on the pretense that we provide subsidies to them. Canada wins every time we go to GATT to dispute this but 'murica seems to feel it's above international dispute mechanisms.

The biggest subsidy you have to the lumber industry is your ability to
ignore tree huggers. Your government understands trees are crops.

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On Thu, 01 Jun 2017 09:48:06 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 1 Jun 2017 06:33:36 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:

American forestry interests continually convince your rulers to throw tariffs on our lumber exports on the pretense that we provide subsidies to them. Canada wins every time we go to GATT to dispute this but 'murica seems to feel it's above international dispute mechanisms.

The biggest subsidy you have to the lumber industry is your ability to
ignore tree huggers. Your government understands trees are crops.

"The U.S. lumber industry has argued for decades that because most Canadian timber is harvested on
Crown lands, the way provincial governments manage and set prices for these harvests results in
cheaper lumber.

"Today's ruling confirms that Canadian lumber mills are subsidized by their government and benefit
from timber pricing policies and other subsidies which harm U.S. manufacturers and workers,"

I wonder if Don White disputes that.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montre...mber-1.4081992

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Poco Deplorevole
"On Thu, 01 Jun 2017 09:48:06 -0400, wrote:

- show quoted text -
"The U.S. lumber industry has argued for decades that because most Canadian timber is harvested on
Crown lands, the way provincial governments manage and set prices for these harvests results in
cheaper lumber.

"Today's ruling confirms that Canadian lumber mills are subsidized by their government and benefit
from timber pricing policies and other subsidies which harm U.S. manufacturers and workers,"

I wonder if Don White disputes that."


Who's ruling?
Everytime we have gone to International arbitration, we win but murica doesn't feel it has to abide by GATT rulings
BTW..In Nova Scotia most lumber is harvested from private rather than Crown lands. Thus we were granted an exception from your bullying till now. Trump has just slapped a 24 percent tariff against us. Maybe the civilized world should do the same to murican products.

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On Thursday, June 1, 2017 at 1:05:58 PM UTC-4, True North wrote:
Poco Deplorevole
"On Thu, 01 Jun 2017 09:48:06 -0400, wrote:

- show quoted text -
"The U.S. lumber industry has argued for decades that because most Canadian timber is harvested on
Crown lands, the way provincial governments manage and set prices for these harvests results in
cheaper lumber.

"Today's ruling confirms that Canadian lumber mills are subsidized by their government and benefit
from timber pricing policies and other subsidies which harm U.S. manufacturers and workers,"

I wonder if Don White disputes that."


Who's ruling?
Everytime we have gone to International arbitration, we win but murica doesn't feel it has to abide by GATT rulings
BTW..In Nova Scotia most lumber is harvested from private rather than Crown lands. Thus we were granted an exception from your bullying till now. Trump has just slapped a 24 percent tariff against us. Maybe the civilized world should do the same to murican products.

It was 3 to 24 percent. American product are already tarriffed. Why shouldn't 'nad products be as well?

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Its Me
- show quoted text -
"It was 3 to 24 percent. Â*American product are already tarriffed. Â*Why shouldn't 'nad products be as well?"

D'uh, JackOff.
The whole idea of NAFTA is removing barriers and the FREE trade of goods between the member countries.
Our media is claiming 24 percent against Nova Scotians forestry products although our lumber comes from private lots...not Crown land.

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On 6/1/17 4:05 PM, True North wrote:
Its Me
- show quoted text -
"It was 3 to 24 percent. American product are already tarriffed. Why shouldn't 'nad products be as well?"

D'uh, JackOff.
The whole idea of NAFTA is removing barriers and the FREE trade of goods between the member countries.
Our media is claiming 24 percent against Nova Scotians forestry products although our lumber comes from private lots...not Crown land.


In this country, we give the logging rights to private companies so they
can profit greatly from public lands.

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Keyser Soze
- show quoted text -
"In this country, we give the logging rights to private companies so they
can profit greatly from public lands."


Confusing....we keep hearing that the supposedly low stumpage fees the lumber companies pay to cut on Crown land is the big reason why American companies convince the US gov't to apply tariffs. It's supposedly considered an unfair advantage.
Shouldn't apply to my province though.

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On 6/1/17 5:04 PM, justan wrote:
True North Wrote in message:
Its Me
- show quoted text -
"It was 3 to 24 percent. American product are already tarriffed. Why shouldn't 'nad products be as well?"

D'uh, JackOff.
The whole idea of NAFTA is removing barriers and the FREE trade of goods between the member countries.
Our media is claiming 24 percent against Nova Scotians forestry products although our lumber comes from private lots...not Crown land.


I'd be a little more sympathetic if your border gestapo was a bit
more friendly toward Americans.


Just because they have your photo up there as a "Designated Asshole"
doesn't mean all U.S. citizens are treated the way you are. I've crossed
the U.S.-Canada border legally many times, and never have had the
slightest delay or problem.

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On Thursday, June 1, 2017 at 5:06:31 PM UTC-4, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 6/1/17 5:04 PM, justan wrote:
True North Wrote in message:
Its Me
- show quoted text -
"It was 3 to 24 percent. American product are already tarriffed. Why shouldn't 'nad products be as well?"

D'uh, JackOff.
The whole idea of NAFTA is removing barriers and the FREE trade of goods between the member countries.
Our media is claiming 24 percent against Nova Scotians forestry products although our lumber comes from private lots...not Crown land.


I'd be a little more sympathetic if your border gestapo was a bit
more friendly toward Americans.


Just because they have your photo up there as a "Designated Asshole"
doesn't mean all U.S. citizens are treated the way you are. I've crossed
the U.S.-Canada border legally many times, and never have had the
slightest delay or problem.

Your experience is not the same as everyone's.

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On 6/1/17 5:10 PM, Its Me wrote:
On Thursday, June 1, 2017 at 5:06:31 PM UTC-4, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 6/1/17 5:04 PM, justan wrote:
True North Wrote in message:
Its Me
- show quoted text -
"It was 3 to 24 percent. American product are already tarriffed. Why shouldn't 'nad products be as well?"

D'uh, JackOff.
The whole idea of NAFTA is removing barriers and the FREE trade of goods between the member countries.
Our media is claiming 24 percent against Nova Scotians forestry products although our lumber comes from private lots...not Crown land.


I'd be a little more sympathetic if your border gestapo was a bit
more friendly toward Americans.


Just because they have your photo up there as a "Designated Asshole"
doesn't mean all U.S. citizens are treated the way you are. I've crossed
the U.S.-Canada border legally many times, and never have had the
slightest delay or problem.

Your experience is not the same as everyone's.


Neither is FlaJackoffJim's. I've driven across and flown across, the
later in commercial and private planes. Cleared customs once in
Cleveland, of all places.

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On 6/1/17 5:21 PM, justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 6/1/17 5:04 PM, justan wrote:
True North Wrote in message:
Its Me
- show quoted text -
"It was 3 to 24 percent. American product are already tarriffed. Why shouldn't 'nad products be as well?"

D'uh, JackOff.
The whole idea of NAFTA is removing barriers and the FREE trade of goods between the member countries.
Our media is claiming 24 percent against Nova Scotians forestry products although our lumber comes from private lots...not Crown land.


I'd be a little more sympathetic if your border gestapo was a bit
more friendly toward Americans.


Just because they have your photo up there as a "Designated Asshole"
doesn't mean all U.S. citizens are treated the way you are. I've crossed
the U.S.-Canada border legally many times, and never have had the
slightest delay or problem.


You don't have a clue as to my experiences going into Canada. And
I'm not going to enlighten you.


I'm thankful for both. If you had difficulties, I am sure they were
well-deserved. You shouldn't act at border crossings as you do
here...flaming asshole doesn't cut it with foreigners wearing badges. .

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On Thu, 1 Jun 2017 17:29:54 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

wrote:
On Thu, 1 Jun 2017 04:14:40 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

wrote:
On Wed, 31 May 2017 19:33:33 -0400, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

The Stratolaunch:


===

That's incredible. It's good that we have guys like Paul Allen and
Elon Musk thinking out of the box and capable of funding their own R&D
for this kind of project.




Elon is highly funded by the taxpayers. Of his 3 businesses, all depend on
huge subsidies. Solar, Tesla, and Space X. Space X, has crap testing,
documentation, and a lock because they are the only US company.

===

Did you forget about Boeing and Lockheed-Martin?

---



They at least test and document. My son in law works on GPS satellites.
Says they have had problems with Space X because of not testing welds and
components. One of the crashes was when the poor weld holding a pressure
tank in position failed.

===

I think they learn quickly from their mistakes. It's impressive to me
how far they've come in a relatively short time. Watching their spent
booster stages retro fire and land upright is a thing of beauty, and a
reminder of how far rocket technology has advanced in our lifetime.

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On Thursday, June 1, 2017 at 4:09:12 PM UTC-4, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 6/1/17 4:05 PM, True North wrote:
Its Me
- show quoted text -
"It was 3 to 24 percent. American product are already tarriffed. Why shouldn't 'nad products be as well?"

D'uh, JackOff.
The whole idea of NAFTA is removing barriers and the FREE trade of goods between the member countries.
Our media is claiming 24 percent against Nova Scotians forestry products although our lumber comes from private lots...not Crown land.


In this country, we give the logging rights to private companies so they
can profit greatly from public lands.

They pay for those rights.

"...commercial logging on national forests through the Forest Service’s timber sale program, in which private timber companies pay the Forest Service to be allowed to cut down trees on public land."

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On Thursday, June 1, 2017 at 5:18:41 PM UTC-4, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 6/1/17 5:10 PM, Its Me wrote:
On Thursday, June 1, 2017 at 5:06:31 PM UTC-4, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 6/1/17 5:04 PM, justan wrote:
True North Wrote in message:
Its Me
- show quoted text -
"It was 3 to 24 percent. American product are already tarriffed. Why shouldn't 'nad products be as well?"

D'uh, JackOff.
The whole idea of NAFTA is removing barriers and the FREE trade of goods between the member countries.
Our media is claiming 24 percent against Nova Scotians forestry products although our lumber comes from private lots...not Crown land.


I'd be a little more sympathetic if your border gestapo was a bit
more friendly toward Americans.


Just because they have your photo up there as a "Designated Asshole"
doesn't mean all U.S. citizens are treated the way you are. I've crossed
the U.S.-Canada border legally many times, and never have had the
slightest delay or problem.

Your experience is not the same as everyone's.


Neither is FlaJackoffJim's. I've driven across and flown across, the
later in commercial and private planes. Cleared customs once in
Cleveland, of all places.

I never stated what my experience was, haree. But there's no doubt the border has a deserved reputation for detaining and harassing people from time to time.

As usual, you're "special".

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Keyser Soze
On 6/1/17 5:04 PM, justan wrote:
True North Wrote in message:
Its Me
- show quoted text -
"It was 3 to 24 percent. Â*American product are already tarriffed. Â*Why shouldn't 'nad products be as well?"

D'uh, JackOff.
The whole idea of NAFTA is removing barriers and the FREE trade of goods between the member countries.
Our media is claiming 24 percent against Nova Scotians forestry products although our lumber comes from private lots...not Crown land.


I'd be a little more sympathetic Â*if your border gestapo was a bit
Â* more friendly toward Americans.


"Just because they have your photo up there as a "Designated Asshole"
doesn't mean all U.S. citizens are treated the way you are. I've crossed
the U.S.-Canada border legally many times, and never have had the
slightest delay or problem."



What is Justine blathering about?
Nova Scotia has always been very welcoming to Americans.
Odd fact...we are the only province that isn't an island that doesn't border with the US.

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Its Me
- show quoted text -
"I never stated what my experience was, haree. But there's no doubt the border has a deserved reputation for detaining and harassing people from time to time.

As usual, you're "special"."



Leave your guns and attitude at home and you'll be welcomed like family.

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On Thu, 1 Jun 2017 15:18:11 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:

Its Me
- show quoted text -
"I never stated what my experience was, haree. But there's no doubt the border has a deserved reputation for detaining and harassing people from time to time.

As usual, you're "special"."



Leave your guns and attitude at home and you'll be welcomed like family.


===

Mostly that's true but if anyone with the same name has an arrest
record, even for relatively minor offences, you will very likely have
a problem.

Clearing in to Canada by boat is really a breeze, no pun intended. You
call an 800 number from a special pay phone, answer a few questions,
get a clearance number, and off you go.

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On Thu, 01 Jun 2017 18:47:46 -0400,
wrote:

Clearing in to Canada by boat is really a breeze, no pun intended. You
call an 800 number from a special pay phone, answer a few questions,
get a clearance number, and off you go.

The last time I was in Canada it was from Buffalo and they were a lot
nicer on the Canada side than the US border patrol was coming back.
The BP guys were assholes, just nasty for no particular reason.

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On Thursday, June 1, 2017 at 6:18:13 PM UTC-4, True North wrote:
Its Me
- show quoted text -
"I never stated what my experience was, haree. But there's no doubt the border has a deserved reputation for detaining and harassing people from time to time.

As usual, you're "special"."



Leave your guns and attitude at home and you'll be welcomed like family.

I've been welcomed with no issue every time I've visited. The majority of the canucks I encountered were nice, but some had a snarky attitude exceeding what I've encountered in the states. And it wasn't toward me.

It seems you have your share of slammers and little slammers up there. Look in the mirror for the last example.

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On Thu, 1 Jun 2017 15:12:00 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:

Odd fact...we are the only province that isn't an island that doesn't border with the US.

===

Labrador??

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On Thu, 01 Jun 2017 22:31:03 -0400,
wrote:

On Thu, 1 Jun 2017 15:12:00 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:

Odd fact...we are the only province that isn't an island that doesn't border with the US.

===

Labrador??

---
I suppose the provinces don't even recognize the second rate citizens
in the territories ;-)

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Keyser Soze wrote:
On 6/1/17 4:05 PM, True North wrote:
Its Me
- show quoted text -
"It was 3 to 24 percent. American product are already tarriffed. Why
shouldn't 'nad products be as well?"

D'uh, JackOff.
The whole idea of NAFTA is removing barriers and the FREE trade of goods
between the member countries.
Our media is claiming 24 percent against Nova Scotians forestry products
although our lumber comes from private lots...not Crown land.


In this country, we give the logging rights to private companies so they
can profit greatly from public lands.


They pay for those logging rights. So they are sold, not given.

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On Thu, 1 Jun 2017 15:10:43 -0700 (PDT), Its Me wrote:

On Thursday, June 1, 2017 at 5:18:41 PM UTC-4, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 6/1/17 5:10 PM, Its Me wrote:
On Thursday, June 1, 2017 at 5:06:31 PM UTC-4, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 6/1/17 5:04 PM, justan wrote:
True North Wrote in message:
Its Me
- show quoted text -
"It was 3 to 24 percent. American product are already tarriffed. Why shouldn't 'nad products be as well?"

D'uh, JackOff.
The whole idea of NAFTA is removing barriers and the FREE trade of goods between the member countries.
Our media is claiming 24 percent against Nova Scotians forestry products although our lumber comes from private lots...not Crown land.


I'd be a little more sympathetic if your border gestapo was a bit
more friendly toward Americans.


Just because they have your photo up there as a "Designated Asshole"
doesn't mean all U.S. citizens are treated the way you are. I've crossed
the U.S.-Canada border legally many times, and never have had the
slightest delay or problem.

Your experience is not the same as everyone's.


Neither is FlaJackoffJim's. I've driven across and flown across, the
later in commercial and private planes. Cleared customs once in
Cleveland, of all places.

I never stated what my experience was, haree. But there's no doubt the border has a deserved reputation for detaining and harassing people from time to time.

As usual, you're "special".

Amen. Crossed the border to visit Montreal while on a motorcycle trip. Had to unpack the entire bike
at the Canadian border to show we weren't carrying weapons. Another time was questioned and
threatened with searches for a good 15-20 minutes at the Niagara Falls crossing. Unreal.

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On Thu, 01 Jun 2017 18:47:46 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 1 Jun 2017 15:18:11 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:

Its Me
- show quoted text -
"I never stated what my experience was, haree. But there's no doubt the border has a deserved reputation for detaining and harassing people from time to time.

As usual, you're "special"."



Leave your guns and attitude at home and you'll be welcomed like family.


===

Mostly that's true but if anyone with the same name has an arrest
record, even for relatively minor offences, you will very likely have
a problem.

Clearing in to Canada by boat is really a breeze, no pun intended. You
call an 800 number from a special pay phone, answer a few questions,
get a clearance number, and off you go.



I had no guns and no arrest record. I sure as hell wasn't treated as family.

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On Fri, 02 Jun 2017 05:48:57 -0400, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

I never stated what my experience was, haree. But there's no doubt the border has a deserved reputation for detaining and harassing people from time to time.

As usual, you're "special".

Amen. Crossed the border to visit Montreal while on a motorcycle trip. Had to unpack the entire bike
at the Canadian border to show we weren't carrying weapons. Another time was questioned and
threatened with searches for a good 15-20 minutes at the Niagara Falls crossing. Unreal.

===

Is it possible that there is some sort of anti-biker thing going on?
They seem to like boaters well enough.

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On 6/2/17 8:11 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 02 Jun 2017 05:48:57 -0400, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

I never stated what my experience was, haree. But there's no doubt the border has a deserved reputation for detaining and harassing people from time to time.

As usual, you're "special".

Amen. Crossed the border to visit Montreal while on a motorcycle trip. Had to unpack the entire bike
at the Canadian border to show we weren't carrying weapons. Another time was questioned and
threatened with searches for a good 15-20 minutes at the Niagara Falls crossing. Unreal.

===

Is it possible that there is some sort of anti-biker thing going on?
They seem to like boaters well enough.

---


My guess is an attitudinal thing...my experience at the Canadian border
is that "friendly" works in both directions.* If you are by nature
snarly about what the government does and is doing, and the border
federales suspect that, you're going to get the FlaJim/John Herring
treatment. Makes me smile.


* I once left Canada with a box of Cuban cigars, about 25 cigars, tucked
into the trenchcoat I was wearing. They were stashed loose, in their
aluminum tubes, outside of the cigar box, which was empty and in my
luggage. The U.S. customs guy said, "Those aren't explosives, are they?"
with a grin. "Nope, they're Cuban cigars for a friend," I said with a
smile. "Want one?" We both knew they were "illegal." He didn't give a
**** and sent me to board the plane, *with* the smokes. If I had
FlaJim's or Herring's attitude, I'd probably have been arrested.

Many, many years ago, in the 1970s, I wrote and was directing a
30-minute "industrial" movie for a client on the architecture of Louis
Kahn. We were featuring some of his newer "state" buildings in Dhaka,
mainly the national assembly building. We had rented a lot of camera
gear from an agency in Paris. We knew we'd have to "pay" to get the gear
into the country in the form of bribes to the border guys. Cost $250
'Merican. Cost me $5 a head to clear the native squatters out of the
eaves of the buildings we were shooting. Smiles and bribes go a long way
in the third world. ****ty attitudes get you nowhere, except, of course,
in rec.boats, right, Wayne? :)

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On Thu, 1 Jun 2017 15:12:00 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:

Odd fact...we are the only province that isn't an island that doesn't border with the US.

===

"Labrador??
- hide quoted text"



As you know, Labrador is part of Newfoundland....and in the past, maybe a bit of an overlooked area except for mining, hydro electricity and maybe some isolated hunting and fishing.
Now they are a bit more prominent and the correct name of the province is 'Newfoundland and Labrador.
Labrador has Quebec in between it and the US.

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On Fri, 2 Jun 2017 05:54:39 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:


On Thu, 1 Jun 2017 15:12:00 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:

Odd fact...we are the only province that isn't an island that doesn't border with the US.

===

"Labrador??
- hide quoted text"



As you know, Labrador is part of Newfoundland....and in the past, maybe a bit of an overlooked area except for mining, hydro electricity and maybe some isolated hunting and fishing.
Now they are a bit more prominent and the correct name of the province is 'Newfoundland and Labrador.
Labrador has Quebec in between it and the US.


===

I'd argue that Newfoundland is part of Labrador and not the other way
around. We met a guy at the RNSYS last year who takes his family and
cruises the coast of Labrador on his sailboat every summer. He's a
Computer Science professor at Harvard. Interesting guy, wish we'd had
more time to chat with him.


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Keyser Soze wrote:
On 6/2/17 8:11 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 02 Jun 2017 05:48:57 -0400, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

I never stated what my experience was, haree. But there's no doubt the
border has a deserved reputation for detaining and harassing people from time to time.

As usual, you're "special".

Amen. Crossed the border to visit Montreal while on a motorcycle trip.
Had to unpack the entire bike
at the Canadian border to show we weren't carrying weapons. Another
time was questioned and
threatened with searches for a good 15-20 minutes at the Niagara Falls crossing. Unreal.

===

Is it possible that there is some sort of anti-biker thing going on?
They seem to like boaters well enough.

---


My guess is an attitudinal thing...my experience at the Canadian border
is that "friendly" works in both directions.* If you are by nature
snarly about what the government does and is doing, and the border
federales suspect that, you're going to get the FlaJim/John Herring
treatment. Makes me smile.


* I once left Canada with a box of Cuban cigars, about 25 cigars, tucked
into the trenchcoat I was wearing. They were stashed loose, in their
aluminum tubes, outside of the cigar box, which was empty and in my
luggage. The U.S. customs guy said, "Those aren't explosives, are they?"
with a grin. "Nope, they're Cuban cigars for a friend," I said with a
smile. "Want one?" We both knew they were "illegal." He didn't give a
**** and sent me to board the plane, *with* the smokes. If I had
FlaJim's or Herring's attitude, I'd probably have been arrested.

Many, many years ago, in the 1970s, I wrote and was directing a
30-minute "industrial" movie for a client on the architecture of Louis
Kahn. We were featuring some of his newer "state" buildings in Dhaka,
mainly the national assembly building. We had rented a lot of camera
gear from an agency in Paris. We knew we'd have to "pay" to get the gear
into the country in the form of bribes to the border guys. Cost $250
'Merican. Cost me $5 a head to clear the native squatters out of the
eaves of the buildings we were shooting. Smiles and bribes go a long way
in the third world. ****ty attitudes get you nowhere, except, of course,
in rec.boats, r



BS. I was friendly, reported no guns, in way to Alaska. They pretty much
went through everything in the camper. I even mentioned that for $60 bucks
I could legally bring in a long gun. Still an hour spent being searched.
I have brought the boat in on a trailer with no problem a couple times.
Maybe I am in the system as legal.

Big-assed airplane
 

On Fri, 2 Jun 2017 08:29:53 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 6/2/17 8:11 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 02 Jun 2017 05:48:57 -0400, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

I never stated what my experience was, haree. But there's no doubt the border has a deserved reputation for detaining and harassing people from time to time.

As usual, you're "special".

Amen. Crossed the border to visit Montreal while on a motorcycle trip. Had to unpack the entire bike
at the Canadian border to show we weren't carrying weapons. Another time was questioned and
threatened with searches for a good 15-20 minutes at the Niagara Falls crossing. Unreal.

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Is it possible that there is some sort of anti-biker thing going on?
They seem to like boaters well enough.

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My guess is an attitudinal thing...my experience at the Canadian border
is that "friendly" works in both directions.* If you are by nature
snarly about what the government does and is doing, and the border
federales suspect that, you're going to get the FlaJim/John Herring
treatment. Makes me smile.

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You spent all that time writing bull****??