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How the game is played
Politics is a blood sucking sport, full of innuendo, false claims and flat out deception, all designed to confuse the public. Here's a current example: Leaks to the WashPost and NYTimes recently identified a person "close to Trump" is under investigation for issues related to "Russia, Russia, Russia". They didn't name the "person" ... but gave plenty of hints that it was Jared Kushner, Trump's son-in-law. Now, Jared Kushner has been identified as a "person of interest", a term that has absolutely no legal significance. All it does is create a negative image of Kushner. Here's the problem: Jared Kushner unilaterally *volunteered* to appear before the Senate Intelligence Committee last month to respond to any questions the Committee had regarding his involvement in the Trump campaign and/or administration. Despite his offer, the Committee never bothered to ask him to testify. Instead, they wait until the right moment, then leaked to the press that Kushner is now a "person of interest" and the FBI wants to talk to him. All this does is create suspicion of wrongdoing that has absolutely no basis in evidence. Political games, that's all. --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com |
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On 5/26/17 8:28 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
Politics is a blood sucking sport, full of innuendo, false claims and flat out deception, all designed to confuse the public. Here's a current example: Leaks to the WashPost and NYTimes recently identified a person "close to Trump" is under investigation for issues related to "Russia, Russia, Russia". They didn't name the "person" ... but gave plenty of hints that it was Jared Kushner, Trump's son-in-law. Now, Jared Kushner has been identified as a "person of interest", a term that has absolutely no legal significance. All it does is create a negative image of Kushner. Here's the problem: Jared Kushner unilaterally *volunteered* to appear before the Senate Intelligence Committee last month to respond to any questions the Committee had regarding his involvement in the Trump campaign and/or administration. Despite his offer, the Committee never bothered to ask him to testify. Instead, they wait until the right moment, then leaked to the press that Kushner is now a "person of interest" and the FBI wants to talk to him. All this does is create suspicion of wrongdoing that has absolutely no basis in evidence. Political games, that's all. The news reports I saw stated several times that there was "no suspicion of wrongdoing" in Jared Kushner's political activities on behalf of his father in law. He is, however, just as sleazy as Donald Trump in his private business dealings and is, among other things, a notorious slumlord. Perhaps the FBI is only interested in what Jared heard when he attended those meetings with the Russians with Mike Flynn. |
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On 5/26/2017 8:36 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/26/17 8:28 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: Politics is a blood sucking sport, full of innuendo, false claims and flat out deception, all designed to confuse the public. Here's a current example: Leaks to the WashPost and NYTimes recently identified a person "close to Trump" is under investigation for issues related to "Russia, Russia, Russia". They didn't name the "person" ... but gave plenty of hints that it was Jared Kushner, Trump's son-in-law. Now, Jared Kushner has been identified as a "person of interest", a term that has absolutely no legal significance. All it does is create a negative image of Kushner. Here's the problem: Jared Kushner unilaterally *volunteered* to appear before the Senate Intelligence Committee last month to respond to any questions the Committee had regarding his involvement in the Trump campaign and/or administration. Despite his offer, the Committee never bothered to ask him to testify. Instead, they wait until the right moment, then leaked to the press that Kushner is now a "person of interest" and the FBI wants to talk to him. All this does is create suspicion of wrongdoing that has absolutely no basis in evidence. Political games, that's all. The news reports I saw stated several times that there was "no suspicion of wrongdoing" in Jared Kushner's political activities on behalf of his father in law. He is, however, just as sleazy as Donald Trump in his private business dealings and is, among other things, a notorious slumlord. Perhaps the FBI is only interested in what Jared heard when he attended those meetings with the Russians with Mike Flynn. You are, as usual, jumping to conclusions that have no basis in fact. In addition, your comments have nothing to do with what I posted. I was attempting to point out the sleazy political games that are played in order to paint a negative image of someone before any testimony or evidence is collected. He *volunteered* last March to testify but nobody was interested at the time apparently or felt it was important. But, leak it out to the liberal media and press and suddenly he's a "person of interest". --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com |
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On 5/26/17 8:45 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 5/26/2017 8:36 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/26/17 8:28 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: Politics is a blood sucking sport, full of innuendo, false claims and flat out deception, all designed to confuse the public. Here's a current example: Leaks to the WashPost and NYTimes recently identified a person "close to Trump" is under investigation for issues related to "Russia, Russia, Russia". They didn't name the "person" ... but gave plenty of hints that it was Jared Kushner, Trump's son-in-law. Now, Jared Kushner has been identified as a "person of interest", a term that has absolutely no legal significance. All it does is create a negative image of Kushner. Here's the problem: Jared Kushner unilaterally *volunteered* to appear before the Senate Intelligence Committee last month to respond to any questions the Committee had regarding his involvement in the Trump campaign and/or administration. Despite his offer, the Committee never bothered to ask him to testify. Instead, they wait until the right moment, then leaked to the press that Kushner is now a "person of interest" and the FBI wants to talk to him. All this does is create suspicion of wrongdoing that has absolutely no basis in evidence. Political games, that's all. The news reports I saw stated several times that there was "no suspicion of wrongdoing" in Jared Kushner's political activities on behalf of his father in law. He is, however, just as sleazy as Donald Trump in his private business dealings and is, among other things, a notorious slumlord. Perhaps the FBI is only interested in what Jared heard when he attended those meetings with the Russians with Mike Flynn. You are, as usual, jumping to conclusions that have no basis in fact. In addition, your comments have nothing to do with what I posted. I was attempting to point out the sleazy political games that are played in order to paint a negative image of someone before any testimony or evidence is collected. He *volunteered* last March to testify but nobody was interested at the time apparently or felt it was important. But, leak it out to the liberal media and press and suddenly he's a "person of interest". The DOJ made Kushner a "person of interest." "Have you had any meetings with the Russians, Jared?" Oh, I forgot I met with the CEO of a sanctioned bank in Russia. Oh, and so did Sessions and Flynn. Should we have put that on the disclosure forms? Nah. |
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On 5/26/2017 8:49 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/26/17 8:45 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 5/26/2017 8:36 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/26/17 8:28 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: Politics is a blood sucking sport, full of innuendo, false claims and flat out deception, all designed to confuse the public. Here's a current example: Leaks to the WashPost and NYTimes recently identified a person "close to Trump" is under investigation for issues related to "Russia, Russia, Russia". They didn't name the "person" ... but gave plenty of hints that it was Jared Kushner, Trump's son-in-law. Now, Jared Kushner has been identified as a "person of interest", a term that has absolutely no legal significance. All it does is create a negative image of Kushner. Here's the problem: Jared Kushner unilaterally *volunteered* to appear before the Senate Intelligence Committee last month to respond to any questions the Committee had regarding his involvement in the Trump campaign and/or administration. Despite his offer, the Committee never bothered to ask him to testify. Instead, they wait until the right moment, then leaked to the press that Kushner is now a "person of interest" and the FBI wants to talk to him. All this does is create suspicion of wrongdoing that has absolutely no basis in evidence. Political games, that's all. The news reports I saw stated several times that there was "no suspicion of wrongdoing" in Jared Kushner's political activities on behalf of his father in law. He is, however, just as sleazy as Donald Trump in his private business dealings and is, among other things, a notorious slumlord. Perhaps the FBI is only interested in what Jared heard when he attended those meetings with the Russians with Mike Flynn. You are, as usual, jumping to conclusions that have no basis in fact. In addition, your comments have nothing to do with what I posted. I was attempting to point out the sleazy political games that are played in order to paint a negative image of someone before any testimony or evidence is collected. He *volunteered* last March to testify but nobody was interested at the time apparently or felt it was important. But, leak it out to the liberal media and press and suddenly he's a "person of interest". The DOJ made Kushner a "person of interest." "Have you had any meetings with the Russians, Jared?" Oh, I forgot I met with the CEO of a sanctioned bank in Russia. Oh, and so did Sessions and Flynn. Should we have put that on the disclosure forms? Nah. Then they should have put him under oath and questioned him when he volunteered to testify. Playing games, that's all. --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com |
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On Fri, 26 May 2017 08:49:48 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote: The DOJ made Kushner a "person of interest." "Have you had any meetings with the Russians, Jared?" Oh, I forgot I met with the CEO of a sanctioned bank in Russia. Oh, and so did Sessions and Flynn. Should we have put that on the disclosure forms? Nah. Why is it such a horrible thing that the administration actually knows something about the Russians beyond the cold war rhetoric? Do you really think Trump was not trying to **** them over too? I keep hearing that Trump must owe Putin something. Ask those NYC contractors what a debt from Trump is worth. You folks can't have it both ways. |
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How the game is played
On Fri, 26 May 2017 12:04:19 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/26/17 11:10 AM, wrote: On Fri, 26 May 2017 08:49:48 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: The DOJ made Kushner a "person of interest." "Have you had any meetings with the Russians, Jared?" Oh, I forgot I met with the CEO of a sanctioned bank in Russia. Oh, and so did Sessions and Flynn. Should we have put that on the disclosure forms? Nah. Why is it such a horrible thing that the administration actually knows something about the Russians beyond the cold war rhetoric? Do you really think Trump was not trying to **** them over too? I keep hearing that Trump must owe Putin something. Ask those NYC contractors what a debt from Trump is worth. You folks can't have it both ways. During the campaign and after the election, it was at the very least inappropriate, and it builds from there. Perhaps you missed it: What, exactly, has Trump done to benefit the "super rich" exclusively at the expense of the middle and lower class citizens? |
How the game is played
On Fri, 26 May 2017 12:04:19 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote: On 5/26/17 11:10 AM, wrote: On Fri, 26 May 2017 08:49:48 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: The DOJ made Kushner a "person of interest." "Have you had any meetings with the Russians, Jared?" Oh, I forgot I met with the CEO of a sanctioned bank in Russia. Oh, and so did Sessions and Flynn. Should we have put that on the disclosure forms? Nah. Why is it such a horrible thing that the administration actually knows something about the Russians beyond the cold war rhetoric? Do you really think Trump was not trying to **** them over too? I keep hearing that Trump must owe Putin something. Ask those NYC contractors what a debt from Trump is worth. You folks can't have it both ways. During the campaign and after the election, it was at the very least inappropriate, and it builds from there. I bet after spending 100 million on all of these investigations, that is also where it stops. Flynn may have to cop to a "failure to register" charge (assuming he doesn't get immunity) but I doubt it ever gets back to Trump and that is who you want to kill |
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On 5/26/2017 12:04 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/26/17 11:10 AM, wrote: On Fri, 26 May 2017 08:49:48 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: The DOJ made Kushner a "person of interest." "Have you had any meetings with the Russians, Jared?" Oh, I forgot I met with the CEO of a sanctioned bank in Russia. Oh, and so did Sessions and Flynn. Should we have put that on the disclosure forms? Nah. Why is it such a horrible thing that the administration actually knows something about the Russians beyond the cold war rhetoric? Do you really think Trump was not trying to **** them over too? I keep hearing that Trump must owe Putin something. Ask those NYC contractors what a debt from Trump is worth. You folks can't have it both ways. During the campaign and after the election, it was at the very least inappropriate, and it builds from there. What is inappropriate? Talking to a Russian? How about talking to the Chinese? Or a Swede? Or a Brit? Or a Pole? Or ... --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com |
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In article , says...
On Fri, 26 May 2017 12:04:19 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/26/17 11:10 AM, wrote: On Fri, 26 May 2017 08:49:48 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: The DOJ made Kushner a "person of interest." "Have you had any meetings with the Russians, Jared?" Oh, I forgot I met with the CEO of a sanctioned bank in Russia. Oh, and so did Sessions and Flynn. Should we have put that on the disclosure forms? Nah. Why is it such a horrible thing that the administration actually knows something about the Russians beyond the cold war rhetoric? Do you really think Trump was not trying to **** them over too? I keep hearing that Trump must owe Putin something. Ask those NYC contractors what a debt from Trump is worth. You folks can't have it both ways. During the campaign and after the election, it was at the very least inappropriate, and it builds from there. I bet after spending 100 million on all of these investigations, that is also where it stops. Flynn may have to cop to a "failure to register" charge (assuming he doesn't get immunity) but I doubt it ever gets back to Trump and that is who you want to kill How much was spent investigating HRC? It worked for the GOP, didn't it? Made her into a super-villain to the gullable. She never faced a charge, and won't. Thing is, it's not the Dems making false charges and conducting these investigations. It's our intelligence agencies. Let the chips fall where they may. Trump is already a dead man walking to decent Americans. He only has the support of the deplorables. |
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On Fri, 26 May 2017 09:22:29 -1100, Boating All Out wrote:
In article , says... On Fri, 26 May 2017 12:04:19 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/26/17 11:10 AM, wrote: On Fri, 26 May 2017 08:49:48 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: The DOJ made Kushner a "person of interest." "Have you had any meetings with the Russians, Jared?" Oh, I forgot I met with the CEO of a sanctioned bank in Russia. Oh, and so did Sessions and Flynn. Should we have put that on the disclosure forms? Nah. Why is it such a horrible thing that the administration actually knows something about the Russians beyond the cold war rhetoric? Do you really think Trump was not trying to **** them over too? I keep hearing that Trump must owe Putin something. Ask those NYC contractors what a debt from Trump is worth. You folks can't have it both ways. During the campaign and after the election, it was at the very least inappropriate, and it builds from there. I bet after spending 100 million on all of these investigations, that is also where it stops. Flynn may have to cop to a "failure to register" charge (assuming he doesn't get immunity) but I doubt it ever gets back to Trump and that is who you want to kill How much was spent investigating HRC? It worked for the GOP, didn't it? Made her into a super-villain to the gullable. She never faced a charge, and won't. Thing is, it's not the Dems making false charges and conducting these investigations. It's our intelligence agencies. Let the chips fall where they may. Trump is already a dead man walking to decent Americans. He only has the support of the deplorables. Would you like some wine with your whine? |
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On Fri, 26 May 2017 16:48:35 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: You don't think that Tillerson has a firm grasp and understanding of most of the world nations interests, economies and cultures? He certainly should with his background and experience. === Darn right. He wouldn't have gotten where he was otherwise. --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com |
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On Fri, 26 May 2017 09:22:29 -1100, Boating All Out
wrote: I bet after spending 100 million on all of these investigations, that is also where it stops. Flynn may have to cop to a "failure to register" charge (assuming he doesn't get immunity) but I doubt it ever gets back to Trump and that is who you want to kill How much was spent investigating HRC? It worked for the GOP, didn't it? Certainly did with Bill. Copped a plea on the same charge they allege against Trump with an additional perjury charge and he paid Paula $850k. Was disbarred. Made her into a super-villain to the gullable. She never faced a charge, and won't. Just because she removed herself from the field and nobody gives a **** anymore Thing is, it's not the Dems making false charges and conducting these investigations. It's our intelligence agencies. The same ones who are leaking UK investigative information in the middle of an active investigation into a terror attack. They should be ashamed. Let the chips fall where they may. Trump is already a dead man walking to decent Americans. He only has the support of the deplorables. The deplorables seem to be almost half of the US electorate. |
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On Fri, 26 May 2017 20:22:57 -0400, wrote:
On Fri, 26 May 2017 09:22:29 -1100, Boating All Out wrote: I bet after spending 100 million on all of these investigations, that is also where it stops. Flynn may have to cop to a "failure to register" charge (assuming he doesn't get immunity) but I doubt it ever gets back to Trump and that is who you want to kill How much was spent investigating HRC? It worked for the GOP, didn't it? Certainly did with Bill. Copped a plea on the same charge they allege against Trump with an additional perjury charge and he paid Paula $850k. Was disbarred. Made her into a super-villain to the gullable. She never faced a charge, and won't. Just because she removed herself from the field and nobody gives a **** anymore Thing is, it's not the Dems making false charges and conducting these investigations. It's our intelligence agencies. The same ones who are leaking UK investigative information in the middle of an active investigation into a terror attack. They should be ashamed. Let the chips fall where they may. Trump is already a dead man walking to decent Americans. He only has the support of the deplorables. The deplorables seem to be almost half of the US electorate. The winning almost half! I wear this on the back of my 'tactical cap'. http://tinyurl.com/y9v2d86q |
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On 5/26/17 8:53 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Fri, 26 May 2017 20:22:57 -0400, wrote: On Fri, 26 May 2017 09:22:29 -1100, Boating All Out wrote: I bet after spending 100 million on all of these investigations, that is also where it stops. Flynn may have to cop to a "failure to register" charge (assuming he doesn't get immunity) but I doubt it ever gets back to Trump and that is who you want to kill How much was spent investigating HRC? It worked for the GOP, didn't it? Certainly did with Bill. Copped a plea on the same charge they allege against Trump with an additional perjury charge and he paid Paula $850k. Was disbarred. Made her into a super-villain to the gullable. She never faced a charge, and won't. Just because she removed herself from the field and nobody gives a **** anymore Thing is, it's not the Dems making false charges and conducting these investigations. It's our intelligence agencies. The same ones who are leaking UK investigative information in the middle of an active investigation into a terror attack. They should be ashamed. Let the chips fall where they may. Trump is already a dead man walking to decent Americans. He only has the support of the deplorables. The deplorables seem to be almost half of the US electorate. The winning almost half! I wear this on the back of my 'tactical cap'. http://tinyurl.com/y9v2d86q You might want to invest in a cap that says on its back: Right-Wing Asshole |
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Keyser Soze
On 5/26/17 8:53 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote: On Fri, 26 May 2017 20:22:57 -0400, wrote: On Fri, 26 May 2017 09:22:29 -1100, Boating All Out wrote: I bet after spending 100 million on all of these investigations, that is also where it stops. Flynn may have to cop to a "failure to register" charge (assuming he doesn't get immunity) but I doubt it ever gets back to Trump and that is who you want to kill How much was spent investigating HRC? Â*It worked for the GOP, didn't it? Certainly did with Bill. Copped a plea on the same charge they allege against Trump with an additional perjury charge and he paid Paula $850k. Was disbarred. Made her into a super-villain to the gullable. Â*She never faced a charge, and won't. Just because she removed herself from the field and nobody gives a **** anymore Thing is, it's not the Dems making false charges and conducting these investigations. It's our intelligence agencies. The same ones who are leaking UK investigative information in the middle of an active investigation into a terror attack. They should be ashamed. Â* Let the chips fall where they may. Trump is already a dead man walking to decent Americans. He only has the support of the deplorables. The deplorables seem to be almost half of the US electorate. The winning almost half! I wear this on the back of my 'tactical cap'. http://tinyurl.com/y9v2d86q "You might want to invest in a cap that says on its back: Right-Wing Asshole" SNERK! |
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On Sat, 27 May 2017 07:49:28 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/26/17 8:53 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote: On Fri, 26 May 2017 20:22:57 -0400, wrote: On Fri, 26 May 2017 09:22:29 -1100, Boating All Out wrote: I bet after spending 100 million on all of these investigations, that is also where it stops. Flynn may have to cop to a "failure to register" charge (assuming he doesn't get immunity) but I doubt it ever gets back to Trump and that is who you want to kill How much was spent investigating HRC? It worked for the GOP, didn't it? Certainly did with Bill. Copped a plea on the same charge they allege against Trump with an additional perjury charge and he paid Paula $850k. Was disbarred. Made her into a super-villain to the gullable. She never faced a charge, and won't. Just because she removed herself from the field and nobody gives a **** anymore Thing is, it's not the Dems making false charges and conducting these investigations. It's our intelligence agencies. The same ones who are leaking UK investigative information in the middle of an active investigation into a terror attack. They should be ashamed. Let the chips fall where they may. Trump is already a dead man walking to decent Americans. He only has the support of the deplorables. The deplorables seem to be almost half of the US electorate. The winning almost half! I wear this on the back of my 'tactical cap'. http://tinyurl.com/y9v2d86q You might want to invest in a cap that says on its back: Right-Wing Asshole Find the patch. Won't bother me a bit. |
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On Sat, 27 May 2017 09:25:18 -0400, Keister Sauce
wrote: There's no rule or obligation here to respond to your right-wing snot. I am sure the current sec of state knows more about bribery with the russians and the middle east oil states than any previous sec of state. === We as a country are fortunate to have a person with Rex Tillerson's management talents in that position. He comes from one of the best managed corporations in the world and didn't get to where he is without a large amount of skill. --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com |
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On Sat, 27 May 2017 10:35:11 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote: On 5/27/17 10:30 AM, wrote: On Sat, 27 May 2017 09:25:18 -0400, Keister Sauce wrote: There's no rule or obligation here to respond to your right-wing snot. I am sure the current sec of state knows more about bribery with the russians and the middle east oil states than any previous sec of state. === We as a country are fortunate to have a person with Rex Tillerson's management talents in that position. He comes from one of the best managed corporations in the world and didn't get to where he is without a large amount of skill. Whatever Tillerson's corporate skills, he's a virgin in the land of diplomacy. === You greatly underestimate him. --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com |
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On Sat, 27 May 2017 10:35:11 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote: On 5/27/17 10:30 AM, wrote: On Sat, 27 May 2017 09:25:18 -0400, Keister Sauce wrote: There's no rule or obligation here to respond to your right-wing snot. I am sure the current sec of state knows more about bribery with the russians and the middle east oil states than any previous sec of state. === We as a country are fortunate to have a person with Rex Tillerson's management talents in that position. He comes from one of the best managed corporations in the world and didn't get to where he is without a large amount of skill. Whatever Tillerson's corporate skills, he's a virgin in the land of diplomacy. That is ridiculous, particularly when you are talking about countries driven by business interests and not government like the oil states, China and Russia. |
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