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[email protected] May 25th 17 04:56 PM

Tire Pressure Monitoring System
 
On Thu, 25 May 2017 07:00:38 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 5/25/2017 6:52 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:

Our toyotas show individual tire pressures. Accurate, too...checked it a
couple of times with a good tire pressure gauge.


Maybe Greg will eventually become a believer that *some* technological
advances actually work pretty well. :-)


If I didn't make a pretty good living fixing those technological
advances I would not be as skeptical. The problem is not how well they
work, it is when you start depending on them too much and they fail.
As I recently said of the autonomous car, it will give a whole new
meaning to the "blue screen of death".

[email protected] May 25th 17 05:05 PM

Tire Pressure Monitoring System
 
On Thu, 25 May 2017 06:55:10 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Pace Arrow was a piece of crap, BTW.


===

Intereresting. I've always thought they looked pretty good when I've
seen them on the road. Who would you recommend instead?

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Mr. Luddite May 25th 17 05:23 PM

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On 5/25/2017 12:05 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 25 May 2017 06:55:10 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Pace Arrow was a piece of crap, BTW.


===

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seen them on the road. Who would you recommend instead?

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At the risk of offending some, anything other than an RV made by Fleetwood.

When Pace Arrow was really Pace Arrow back in the old days, it was
considered to be a high-end, quality built RV or motorhome. That's what
I remembered. But somewhere in it's history it was acquired by
Fleetwood. That's when they turned to crap.

In fairness, not all Fleetwood RV's are bad. The higher end diesel
pushers, etc. are popular and apparently don't suffer from the poor
quality that the one I had suffered from.



Poco Deplorevole May 25th 17 05:27 PM

Tire Pressure Monitoring System
 
On Thu, 25 May 2017 11:29:20 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 25 May 2017 06:25:42 -0400, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

On Wed, 24 May 2017 17:16:05 -0400,
wrote:

On Wed, 24 May 2017 13:34:15 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


The Altima I drive now has a cool feature. If you leave the ignition on
(but engine off) when adding air to a tire, the car horn will beep when
the tire is at 32 psi. Don't need a tire gauge.


I am not convinced these things are that accurate.


It's not spot on accuracy I worry about. It's losing 10-20 lbs rapidly, or the temperature
increasing rapidly that worries me. I like the idea of a warning alarm when either occurs.


That is what the sensor is meant to do. I still want to use a real
gauge to inflate them.


It would be unlikely that someone would try to use the sensor for inflation, but I suppose it could
be done. Again, how do you know your gauge is accurate?

Mr. Luddite May 25th 17 05:36 PM

Tire Pressure Monitoring System
 
On 5/25/2017 12:27 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Thu, 25 May 2017 11:29:20 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 25 May 2017 06:25:42 -0400, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

On Wed, 24 May 2017 17:16:05 -0400,
wrote:

On Wed, 24 May 2017 13:34:15 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


The Altima I drive now has a cool feature. If you leave the ignition on
(but engine off) when adding air to a tire, the car horn will beep when
the tire is at 32 psi. Don't need a tire gauge.


I am not convinced these things are that accurate.

It's not spot on accuracy I worry about. It's losing 10-20 lbs rapidly, or the temperature
increasing rapidly that worries me. I like the idea of a warning alarm when either occurs.


That is what the sensor is meant to do. I still want to use a real
gauge to inflate them.



It would be unlikely that someone would try to use the sensor for inflation, but I suppose it could
be done. Again, how do you know your gauge is accurate?


Greg probably had it traced back to the National Bureau of Standards.
Me? I'll just inflate until my horn beeps. Or the tire blows up.
Whatever occurs first. :-)




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Poco Deplorevole May 25th 17 05:57 PM

Tire Pressure Monitoring System
 
On Thu, 25 May 2017 11:43:53 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 25 May 2017 06:32:10 -0400, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

Driving north on a hot, sunny afternoon on I-81 will raise the tire temp a bunch. I wonder how the
TPMS compensates, if at all. I suppose if both driver-side tires are at the same (higher) temp then
the fear would be reduced. I wish they also made a wheel bearing temp monitoring system.


Do you have an IR gun? It is a handy thing for looking at all of that
stuff. They are getting pretty cheap but I would get one from the
middle of the pack, not the cheapest one you find.


Won't need one with the TPMS.

Poco Deplorevole May 25th 17 05:59 PM

Tire Pressure Monitoring System
 
On Thu, 25 May 2017 11:52:42 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 25 May 2017 06:55:10 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Heh. One of the reasons I got out of RV'ing. Too many things to worry
about. I've grown to really like simplicity.

First blow out I had was on the christening voyage to Florida in a brand
new Pace Arrow Class A motorhome. Inner tire on rear blew.
Spent the night in a truck repair parking lot while the replacement was
ordered and delivered.

Pace Arrow was a piece of crap, BTW.


If you go often and go on short trips like John, the RV thing may be
worthwhile but for the once or twice a year guy, a first class plane
ticket, a rental car and a real nice hotel is a lot cheaper.


We leave on 8 June for the 'Bean Blossom Bluegrass Festival' in Bean Blossom, IN. That's about 650
miles, which, I suppose, is pretty short.

Poco Deplorevole May 25th 17 06:06 PM

Tire Pressure Monitoring System
 
On Thu, 25 May 2017 12:05:49 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 25 May 2017 06:55:10 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Pace Arrow was a piece of crap, BTW.


===

Intereresting. I've always thought they looked pretty good when I've
seen them on the road. Who would you recommend instead?

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These Allegros get very high marks. Also expensive.

http://www.tiffinmotorhomes.com/allegro

The folks we go with frequently have a Winnebago Journey:

https://winnebagoind.com/products/cl...urney/overview

They've had some problems, but are overall pretty happy with the rig. Both of those are diesel
pushers, which adds to the cost and the quality of the coach.

Me, I prefer a 5th wheel and a pickup. Motorhomes, like Luddite said, can become a big pain in the
butt, and you still need something to get around in once you're at the campsite. I have yet to see
an advantage to a motorhome which justifies all the extra costs. Yeah, wife can cook or take a nap
on the go. Not worth it to me. My wife seems to have little trouble sleeping in the Silverado.

Mr. Luddite May 25th 17 06:18 PM

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On 5/25/2017 1:02 PM, justan wrote:
"Mr. Luddite" Wrote in message:
On 5/25/2017 12:05 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 25 May 2017 06:55:10 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Pace Arrow was a piece of crap, BTW.

===

Intereresting. I've always thought they looked pretty good when I've
seen them on the road. Who would you recommend instead?

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At the risk of offending some, anything other than an RV made by Fleetwood.

When Pace Arrow was really Pace Arrow back in the old days, it was
considered to be a high-end, quality built RV or motorhome. That's what
I remembered. But somewhere in it's history it was acquired by
Fleetwood. That's when they turned to crap.

In fairness, not all Fleetwood RV's are bad. The higher end diesel
pushers, etc. are popular and apparently don't suffer from the poor
quality that the one I had suffered from.




Doesn't matter what you buy , they all have issues. The consumer
is the quality control. It's not like buying a car.



Small, wooden blocks glued to a skinny, painted metal stiffener that the
side panels are screwed to with what amounted to sheet rock screws isn't
my idea of quality. Nor was a rubber gas line feeding the generator
that made a 90 degree turn across the frame that had been cut with an
oxygen/acetylene torch and left with all the rough slag that was
chaffing through the gas line. Nor was the stupid painted plastic that
is used for the entire front and grill that was so rough any attempt to
wax it only left white wax residue that was impossible to remove.

Nor was the brake line that let go in less than 6 months causing it to
have to be towed away with a gigantic tow truck.

Who can forget the melted ice cream?

Other than that, it was pretty good I guess. :-)

Mr. Luddite May 25th 17 06:21 PM

Tire Pressure Monitoring System
 
On 5/25/2017 1:06 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Thu, 25 May 2017 12:05:49 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 25 May 2017 06:55:10 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Pace Arrow was a piece of crap, BTW.


===

Intereresting. I've always thought they looked pretty good when I've
seen them on the road. Who would you recommend instead?

---
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These Allegros get very high marks. Also expensive.

http://www.tiffinmotorhomes.com/allegro

The folks we go with frequently have a Winnebago Journey:

https://winnebagoind.com/products/cl...urney/overview

They've had some problems, but are overall pretty happy with the rig. Both of those are diesel
pushers, which adds to the cost and the quality of the coach.

Me, I prefer a 5th wheel and a pickup. Motorhomes, like Luddite said, can become a big pain in the
butt, and you still need something to get around in once you're at the campsite. I have yet to see
an advantage to a motorhome which justifies all the extra costs. Yeah, wife can cook or take a nap
on the go.



Not legally, she can't. You can get away with it unless there's an
accident.





[email protected] May 25th 17 08:39 PM

Tire Pressure Monitoring System
 
On Thu, 25 May 2017 11:45:29 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 5/25/2017 11:29 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 25 May 2017 06:25:42 -0400, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

On Wed, 24 May 2017 17:16:05 -0400,
wrote:

On Wed, 24 May 2017 13:34:15 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


The Altima I drive now has a cool feature. If you leave the ignition on
(but engine off) when adding air to a tire, the car horn will beep when
the tire is at 32 psi. Don't need a tire gauge.


I am not convinced these things are that accurate.

It's not spot on accuracy I worry about. It's losing 10-20 lbs rapidly, or the temperature
increasing rapidly that worries me. I like the idea of a warning alarm when either occurs.


That is what the sensor is meant to do. I still want to use a real
gauge to inflate them.


I checked the readings given by my car display with a dial type gauge
that I have used for years. It's a fairly expensive one that holds the
reading until you push a button on the side to release the pressure
within the gauge.

Anyway, dead nuts with the Nissan system readings as near as I can tell.
The Nissan display reads in 10ths of a psi. Can't resolve it that well
with the expensive dial gauge.

I am just relating my experience with whatever Ford was buying some
years ago.

[email protected] May 25th 17 08:43 PM

Tire Pressure Monitoring System
 
On Thu, 25 May 2017 12:57:19 -0400, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

On Thu, 25 May 2017 11:43:53 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 25 May 2017 06:32:10 -0400, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

Driving north on a hot, sunny afternoon on I-81 will raise the tire temp a bunch. I wonder how the
TPMS compensates, if at all. I suppose if both driver-side tires are at the same (higher) temp then
the fear would be reduced. I wish they also made a wheel bearing temp monitoring system.


Do you have an IR gun? It is a handy thing for looking at all of that
stuff. They are getting pretty cheap but I would get one from the
middle of the pack, not the cheapest one you find.


Won't need one with the TPMS.


I was thinking more about the bearings you seemed to be worried about.
You can reach around and shoot the base of the spindle. They use those
guns on Pike's Peak to check brake rotor heats and if you are too hot,
they give you a time out.

[email protected] May 25th 17 08:47 PM

Tire Pressure Monitoring System
 
On Thu, 25 May 2017 12:59:07 -0400, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

On Thu, 25 May 2017 11:52:42 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 25 May 2017 06:55:10 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Heh. One of the reasons I got out of RV'ing. Too many things to worry
about. I've grown to really like simplicity.

First blow out I had was on the christening voyage to Florida in a brand
new Pace Arrow Class A motorhome. Inner tire on rear blew.
Spent the night in a truck repair parking lot while the replacement was
ordered and delivered.

Pace Arrow was a piece of crap, BTW.


If you go often and go on short trips like John, the RV thing may be
worthwhile but for the once or twice a year guy, a first class plane
ticket, a rental car and a real nice hotel is a lot cheaper.


We leave on 8 June for the 'Bean Blossom Bluegrass Festival' in Bean Blossom, IN. That's about 650
miles, which, I suppose, is pretty short.


We are going to North Carolina next week but that is still farther
than I want to drive. I am not sure how far it is but I am guessing
about 700-750.
It is a non stop flight from RSW to CLT so we are flying. Last time we
were on our way to DC with $600 worth of illegal fireworks so we drove
but we flew home.

Keyser Soze May 25th 17 08:48 PM

Tire Pressure Monitoring System
 
On 5/25/17 3:43 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 25 May 2017 12:57:19 -0400, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

On Thu, 25 May 2017 11:43:53 -0400,
wrote:

On Thu, 25 May 2017 06:32:10 -0400, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

Driving north on a hot, sunny afternoon on I-81 will raise the tire temp a bunch. I wonder how the
TPMS compensates, if at all. I suppose if both driver-side tires are at the same (higher) temp then
the fear would be reduced. I wish they also made a wheel bearing temp monitoring system.

Do you have an IR gun? It is a handy thing for looking at all of that
stuff. They are getting pretty cheap but I would get one from the
middle of the pack, not the cheapest one you find.


Won't need one with the TPMS.


I was thinking more about the bearings you seemed to be worried about.
You can reach around and shoot the base of the spindle. They use those
guns on Pike's Peak to check brake rotor heats and if you are too hot,
they give you a time out.


Gosh, I just keep an eye on the temp gauge and TPMS once in a while when
we travel, and when we gas up, I check the engine oil and take a look at
the tires. Glad I am not towing a motel room.

Poco Deplorevole May 25th 17 08:56 PM

Tire Pressure Monitoring System
 
On Thu, 25 May 2017 15:43:42 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 25 May 2017 12:57:19 -0400, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

On Thu, 25 May 2017 11:43:53 -0400,
wrote:

On Thu, 25 May 2017 06:32:10 -0400, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

Driving north on a hot, sunny afternoon on I-81 will raise the tire temp a bunch. I wonder how the
TPMS compensates, if at all. I suppose if both driver-side tires are at the same (higher) temp then
the fear would be reduced. I wish they also made a wheel bearing temp monitoring system.

Do you have an IR gun? It is a handy thing for looking at all of that
stuff. They are getting pretty cheap but I would get one from the
middle of the pack, not the cheapest one you find.


Won't need one with the TPMS.


I was thinking more about the bearings you seemed to be worried about.
You can reach around and shoot the base of the spindle. They use those
guns on Pike's Peak to check brake rotor heats and if you are too hot,
they give you a time out.


That's an idea, but I check mine with my hands whenever we stop. Scared the crap out of me when I
touched a hub that was hot, but then touched the one behind it. Same temp. The two on the other side
were much cooler. Then I realized it was the sun hitting the wheels that caused the heat.

Keyser Soze May 25th 17 08:56 PM

Tire Pressure Monitoring System
 
On 5/25/17 3:47 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 25 May 2017 12:59:07 -0400, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

On Thu, 25 May 2017 11:52:42 -0400,
wrote:

On Thu, 25 May 2017 06:55:10 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Heh. One of the reasons I got out of RV'ing. Too many things to worry
about. I've grown to really like simplicity.

First blow out I had was on the christening voyage to Florida in a brand
new Pace Arrow Class A motorhome. Inner tire on rear blew.
Spent the night in a truck repair parking lot while the replacement was
ordered and delivered.

Pace Arrow was a piece of crap, BTW.


If you go often and go on short trips like John, the RV thing may be
worthwhile but for the once or twice a year guy, a first class plane
ticket, a rental car and a real nice hotel is a lot cheaper.


We leave on 8 June for the 'Bean Blossom Bluegrass Festival' in Bean Blossom, IN. That's about 650
miles, which, I suppose, is pretty short.


We are going to North Carolina next week but that is still farther
than I want to drive. I am not sure how far it is but I am guessing
about 700-750.
It is a non stop flight from RSW to CLT so we are flying. Last time we
were on our way to DC with $600 worth of illegal fireworks so we drove
but we flew home.



My wife drove to Florida and back twice this year and says I-95 in NC is
now the worst on the trip, and "second-worst" is I-95 in SC. The problem
with Virginia is the horrendous traffic between Fairfax County and south
of Richmond. That's why we cut over to Waldorf and take 301 south to a
bit past Ft. AP Hill.

Poco Deplorevole May 25th 17 08:57 PM

Tire Pressure Monitoring System
 
On Thu, 25 May 2017 15:48:54 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/25/17 3:43 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 25 May 2017 12:57:19 -0400, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

On Thu, 25 May 2017 11:43:53 -0400,
wrote:

On Thu, 25 May 2017 06:32:10 -0400, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

Driving north on a hot, sunny afternoon on I-81 will raise the tire temp a bunch. I wonder how the
TPMS compensates, if at all. I suppose if both driver-side tires are at the same (higher) temp then
the fear would be reduced. I wish they also made a wheel bearing temp monitoring system.

Do you have an IR gun? It is a handy thing for looking at all of that
stuff. They are getting pretty cheap but I would get one from the
middle of the pack, not the cheapest one you find.

Won't need one with the TPMS.


I was thinking more about the bearings you seemed to be worried about.
You can reach around and shoot the base of the spindle. They use those
guns on Pike's Peak to check brake rotor heats and if you are too hot,
they give you a time out.


Gosh, I just keep an eye on the temp gauge and TPMS once in a while when
we travel, and when we gas up, I check the engine oil and take a look at
the tires. Glad I am not towing a motel room.


Actually, it's a bit more than a motel room - two queen beds, refrigerator, stove, ... all the
comforts!

Mr. Luddite May 25th 17 08:58 PM

Tire Pressure Monitoring System
 
On 5/25/2017 3:39 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 25 May 2017 11:45:29 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 5/25/2017 11:29 AM,
wrote:
On Thu, 25 May 2017 06:25:42 -0400, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

On Wed, 24 May 2017 17:16:05 -0400,
wrote:

On Wed, 24 May 2017 13:34:15 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

The Altima I drive now has a cool feature. If you leave the ignition on
(but engine off) when adding air to a tire, the car horn will beep when
the tire is at 32 psi. Don't need a tire gauge.


I am not convinced these things are that accurate.

It's not spot on accuracy I worry about. It's losing 10-20 lbs rapidly, or the temperature
increasing rapidly that worries me. I like the idea of a warning alarm when either occurs.

That is what the sensor is meant to do. I still want to use a real
gauge to inflate them.


I checked the readings given by my car display with a dial type gauge
that I have used for years. It's a fairly expensive one that holds the
reading until you push a button on the side to release the pressure
within the gauge.

Anyway, dead nuts with the Nissan system readings as near as I can tell.
The Nissan display reads in 10ths of a psi. Can't resolve it that well
with the expensive dial gauge.

I am just relating my experience with whatever Ford was buying some
years ago.



Actually, I fu'ked up. It doesn't display in tenths. I must have been
thinking of the average fuel mileage display.

I just took a ride to the store and put the dashboard display on the
tire pressures. It shows a graphic of a car frame and all four tires
and their pressures. When I left the driveway they were reading 32, 32,
32 and 31. The 31 reading came up to 32 within about 2 miles. Within 5
miles they were all reading 33 psi.

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Poco Deplorevole May 25th 17 08:59 PM

Tire Pressure Monitoring System
 
On Thu, 25 May 2017 15:47:53 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 25 May 2017 12:59:07 -0400, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

On Thu, 25 May 2017 11:52:42 -0400,
wrote:

On Thu, 25 May 2017 06:55:10 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Heh. One of the reasons I got out of RV'ing. Too many things to worry
about. I've grown to really like simplicity.

First blow out I had was on the christening voyage to Florida in a brand
new Pace Arrow Class A motorhome. Inner tire on rear blew.
Spent the night in a truck repair parking lot while the replacement was
ordered and delivered.

Pace Arrow was a piece of crap, BTW.


If you go often and go on short trips like John, the RV thing may be
worthwhile but for the once or twice a year guy, a first class plane
ticket, a rental car and a real nice hotel is a lot cheaper.


We leave on 8 June for the 'Bean Blossom Bluegrass Festival' in Bean Blossom, IN. That's about 650
miles, which, I suppose, is pretty short.


We are going to North Carolina next week but that is still farther
than I want to drive. I am not sure how far it is but I am guessing
about 700-750.
It is a non stop flight from RSW to CLT so we are flying. Last time we
were on our way to DC with $600 worth of illegal fireworks so we drove
but we flew home.


Back in the old days, 700 miles in a day was no big deal. Hell, I've done 900 on my damn motorcycle.
Now I don't think I'd try more than 400 on the motorcycle and maybe 500 with the truck and trailer.

Poco Deplorevole May 25th 17 09:03 PM

Tire Pressure Monitoring System
 
On Thu, 25 May 2017 13:21:05 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 5/25/2017 1:06 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Thu, 25 May 2017 12:05:49 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 25 May 2017 06:55:10 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Pace Arrow was a piece of crap, BTW.

===

Intereresting. I've always thought they looked pretty good when I've
seen them on the road. Who would you recommend instead?

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These Allegros get very high marks. Also expensive.

http://www.tiffinmotorhomes.com/allegro

The folks we go with frequently have a Winnebago Journey:

https://winnebagoind.com/products/cl...urney/overview

They've had some problems, but are overall pretty happy with the rig. Both of those are diesel
pushers, which adds to the cost and the quality of the coach.

Me, I prefer a 5th wheel and a pickup. Motorhomes, like Luddite said, can become a big pain in the
butt, and you still need something to get around in once you're at the campsite. I have yet to see
an advantage to a motorhome which justifies all the extra costs. Yeah, wife can cook or take a nap
on the go.



Not legally, she can't. You can get away with it unless there's an
accident.



Oh, I didn't know that. You're talking about cooking or sleeping in the back? I suppose the seat
belt laws would prevent either. Good point. Hadn't thought about it in that light. That leaves ease
of backing into a campsite about the only advantage. But, if you've got a toad you've got to drop
that first anyway. Oh well.

Mr. Luddite May 25th 17 09:07 PM

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On 5/25/2017 3:48 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/25/17 3:43 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 25 May 2017 12:57:19 -0400, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

On Thu, 25 May 2017 11:43:53 -0400,
wrote:

On Thu, 25 May 2017 06:32:10 -0400, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

Driving north on a hot, sunny afternoon on I-81 will raise the tire
temp a bunch. I wonder how the
TPMS compensates, if at all. I suppose if both driver-side tires
are at the same (higher) temp then
the fear would be reduced. I wish they also made a wheel bearing
temp monitoring system.

Do you have an IR gun? It is a handy thing for looking at all of that
stuff. They are getting pretty cheap but I would get one from the
middle of the pack, not the cheapest one you find.

Won't need one with the TPMS.


I was thinking more about the bearings you seemed to be worried about.
You can reach around and shoot the base of the spindle. They use those
guns on Pike's Peak to check brake rotor heats and if you are too hot,
they give you a time out.





Gosh, I just keep an eye on the temp gauge and TPMS once in a while when
we travel, and when we gas up, I check the engine oil and take a look at
the tires. Glad I am not towing a motel room.


So is everyone else using the same highway.




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Mr. Luddite May 25th 17 09:18 PM

Tire Pressure Monitoring System
 
On 5/25/2017 4:03 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Thu, 25 May 2017 13:21:05 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 5/25/2017 1:06 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Thu, 25 May 2017 12:05:49 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 25 May 2017 06:55:10 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Pace Arrow was a piece of crap, BTW.

===

Intereresting. I've always thought they looked pretty good when I've
seen them on the road. Who would you recommend instead?

---
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http://www.avg.com

These Allegros get very high marks. Also expensive.

http://www.tiffinmotorhomes.com/allegro

The folks we go with frequently have a Winnebago Journey:

https://winnebagoind.com/products/cl...urney/overview

They've had some problems, but are overall pretty happy with the rig. Both of those are diesel
pushers, which adds to the cost and the quality of the coach.

Me, I prefer a 5th wheel and a pickup. Motorhomes, like Luddite said, can become a big pain in the
butt, and you still need something to get around in once you're at the campsite. I have yet to see
an advantage to a motorhome which justifies all the extra costs. Yeah, wife can cook or take a nap
on the go.



Not legally, she can't. You can get away with it unless there's an
accident.



Oh, I didn't know that. You're talking about cooking or sleeping in the back? I suppose the seat
belt laws would prevent either. Good point. Hadn't thought about it in that light. That leaves ease
of backing into a campsite about the only advantage. But, if you've got a toad you've got to drop
that first anyway. Oh well.


My daughter and son-in-law recently rented a class C to travel to South
Carolina and Mrs.E. went with them. I drove my son-in-law over to pick
it up and jokingly mentioned to him that he should just put Mrs.E. in
one of the beds for the trip because she falls asleep whenever she
travels anyway. The manager of the RV rental place told us it was
illegal to be in a bed or even walking around while the RV was in
motion. I am sure people do it ... we did when we had the class A and
the class C RV's but it's not advised or legal.


Poco Deplorevole May 25th 17 09:21 PM

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On Thu, 25 May 2017 15:56:55 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/25/17 3:47 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 25 May 2017 12:59:07 -0400, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

On Thu, 25 May 2017 11:52:42 -0400,
wrote:

On Thu, 25 May 2017 06:55:10 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Heh. One of the reasons I got out of RV'ing. Too many things to worry
about. I've grown to really like simplicity.

First blow out I had was on the christening voyage to Florida in a brand
new Pace Arrow Class A motorhome. Inner tire on rear blew.
Spent the night in a truck repair parking lot while the replacement was
ordered and delivered.

Pace Arrow was a piece of crap, BTW.


If you go often and go on short trips like John, the RV thing may be
worthwhile but for the once or twice a year guy, a first class plane
ticket, a rental car and a real nice hotel is a lot cheaper.

We leave on 8 June for the 'Bean Blossom Bluegrass Festival' in Bean Blossom, IN. That's about 650
miles, which, I suppose, is pretty short.


We are going to North Carolina next week but that is still farther
than I want to drive. I am not sure how far it is but I am guessing
about 700-750.
It is a non stop flight from RSW to CLT so we are flying. Last time we
were on our way to DC with $600 worth of illegal fireworks so we drove
but we flew home.



My wife drove to Florida and back twice this year and says I-95 in NC is
now the worst on the trip, and "second-worst" is I-95 in SC. The problem
with Virginia is the horrendous traffic between Fairfax County and south
of Richmond. That's why we cut over to Waldorf and take 301 south to a
bit past Ft. AP Hill.


From where you live, not taking 301 would be an act of stupidity.

Poco Deplorevole May 25th 17 09:23 PM

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On Thu, 25 May 2017 16:07:41 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 5/25/2017 3:48 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/25/17 3:43 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 25 May 2017 12:57:19 -0400, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

On Thu, 25 May 2017 11:43:53 -0400,
wrote:

On Thu, 25 May 2017 06:32:10 -0400, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

Driving north on a hot, sunny afternoon on I-81 will raise the tire
temp a bunch. I wonder how the
TPMS compensates, if at all. I suppose if both driver-side tires
are at the same (higher) temp then
the fear would be reduced. I wish they also made a wheel bearing
temp monitoring system.

Do you have an IR gun? It is a handy thing for looking at all of that
stuff. They are getting pretty cheap but I would get one from the
middle of the pack, not the cheapest one you find.

Won't need one with the TPMS.

I was thinking more about the bearings you seemed to be worried about.
You can reach around and shoot the base of the spindle. They use those
guns on Pike's Peak to check brake rotor heats and if you are too hot,
they give you a time out.





Gosh, I just keep an eye on the temp gauge and TPMS once in a while when
we travel, and when we gas up, I check the engine oil and take a look at
the tires. Glad I am not towing a motel room.


So is everyone else using the same highway.


....or campground.

[email protected] May 25th 17 10:18 PM

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On Thu, 25 May 2017 15:56:55 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 5/25/17 3:47 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 25 May 2017 12:59:07 -0400, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

On Thu, 25 May 2017 11:52:42 -0400,
wrote:

On Thu, 25 May 2017 06:55:10 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Heh. One of the reasons I got out of RV'ing. Too many things to worry
about. I've grown to really like simplicity.

First blow out I had was on the christening voyage to Florida in a brand
new Pace Arrow Class A motorhome. Inner tire on rear blew.
Spent the night in a truck repair parking lot while the replacement was
ordered and delivered.

Pace Arrow was a piece of crap, BTW.


If you go often and go on short trips like John, the RV thing may be
worthwhile but for the once or twice a year guy, a first class plane
ticket, a rental car and a real nice hotel is a lot cheaper.

We leave on 8 June for the 'Bean Blossom Bluegrass Festival' in Bean Blossom, IN. That's about 650
miles, which, I suppose, is pretty short.


We are going to North Carolina next week but that is still farther
than I want to drive. I am not sure how far it is but I am guessing
about 700-750.
It is a non stop flight from RSW to CLT so we are flying. Last time we
were on our way to DC with $600 worth of illegal fireworks so we drove
but we flew home.



My wife drove to Florida and back twice this year and says I-95 in NC is
now the worst on the trip, and "second-worst" is I-95 in SC. The problem
with Virginia is the horrendous traffic between Fairfax County and south
of Richmond. That's why we cut over to Waldorf and take 301 south to a
bit past Ft. AP Hill.


I always time my trip so the Carolinas are in the middle of the night.
I like the sun to come up somewhere around Brunswick Ga.
You can haul ass that way, particularly if you have a CB.
When I was doing that a lot, I knew quite a few of those truckers and
I met some face to face. I rescued a guy on 270 one night and got a
lot of street cred from that.
I agree about that Richmond to Springfield part of 95.
One night I was on an call going from Rockville to just south of
Ashland and got hooked up with my truckers. I made that 90 mile trip
in about an hour.
I do the 301 thing too but I am going to Ridge these days so it is
pretty much the first right turn off the PR bridge.
When I was in Clinton I went that way tho.

Poco Deplorevole May 25th 17 10:26 PM

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On Thu, 25 May 2017 17:18:05 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 25 May 2017 15:56:55 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 5/25/17 3:47 PM,
wrote:
On Thu, 25 May 2017 12:59:07 -0400, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

On Thu, 25 May 2017 11:52:42 -0400,
wrote:

On Thu, 25 May 2017 06:55:10 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Heh. One of the reasons I got out of RV'ing. Too many things to worry
about. I've grown to really like simplicity.

First blow out I had was on the christening voyage to Florida in a brand
new Pace Arrow Class A motorhome. Inner tire on rear blew.
Spent the night in a truck repair parking lot while the replacement was
ordered and delivered.

Pace Arrow was a piece of crap, BTW.


If you go often and go on short trips like John, the RV thing may be
worthwhile but for the once or twice a year guy, a first class plane
ticket, a rental car and a real nice hotel is a lot cheaper.

We leave on 8 June for the 'Bean Blossom Bluegrass Festival' in Bean Blossom, IN. That's about 650
miles, which, I suppose, is pretty short.

We are going to North Carolina next week but that is still farther
than I want to drive. I am not sure how far it is but I am guessing
about 700-750.
It is a non stop flight from RSW to CLT so we are flying. Last time we
were on our way to DC with $600 worth of illegal fireworks so we drove
but we flew home.



My wife drove to Florida and back twice this year and says I-95 in NC is
now the worst on the trip, and "second-worst" is I-95 in SC. The problem
with Virginia is the horrendous traffic between Fairfax County and south
of Richmond. That's why we cut over to Waldorf and take 301 south to a
bit past Ft. AP Hill.


I always time my trip so the Carolinas are in the middle of the night.
I like the sun to come up somewhere around Brunswick Ga.
You can haul ass that way, particularly if you have a CB.
When I was doing that a lot, I knew quite a few of those truckers and
I met some face to face. I rescued a guy on 270 one night and got a
lot of street cred from that.
I agree about that Richmond to Springfield part of 95.
One night I was on an call going from Rockville to just south of
Ashland and got hooked up with my truckers. I made that 90 mile trip
in about an hour.
I do the 301 thing too but I am going to Ridge these days so it is
pretty much the first right turn off the PR bridge.
When I was in Clinton I went that way tho.


I haven't had a CB since the early 80's. Used it a hell of a lot travelling across country and while
advising Reserve and National Guard units out west. Haven't used one at all since then. Have you
used one recently? I've heard that most of the truckers don't even use them anymore. Too much static
or whatever. I've thought about getting one, but haven't talked to anyone recently about them.

[email protected] May 25th 17 10:36 PM

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On Thu, 25 May 2017 15:57:50 -0400, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

On Thu, 25 May 2017 15:48:54 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:


Gosh, I just keep an eye on the temp gauge and TPMS once in a while when
we travel, and when we gas up, I check the engine oil and take a look at
the tires. Glad I am not towing a motel room.


Actually, it's a bit more than a motel room - two queen beds, refrigerator, stove, ... all the
comforts!


We are renting this place. I bet your RV doesn't have a hot tub and an
air hockey table ;-)

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/6...65598446_zpid/

Keyser Soze May 25th 17 10:39 PM

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On 5/25/17 4:07 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 5/25/2017 3:48 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/25/17 3:43 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 25 May 2017 12:57:19 -0400, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

On Thu, 25 May 2017 11:43:53 -0400,
wrote:

On Thu, 25 May 2017 06:32:10 -0400, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

Driving north on a hot, sunny afternoon on I-81 will raise the
tire temp a bunch. I wonder how the
TPMS compensates, if at all. I suppose if both driver-side tires
are at the same (higher) temp then
the fear would be reduced. I wish they also made a wheel bearing
temp monitoring system.

Do you have an IR gun? It is a handy thing for looking at all of that
stuff. They are getting pretty cheap but I would get one from the
middle of the pack, not the cheapest one you find.

Won't need one with the TPMS.

I was thinking more about the bearings you seemed to be worried about.
You can reach around and shoot the base of the spindle. They use those
guns on Pike's Peak to check brake rotor heats and if you are too hot,
they give you a time out.





Gosh, I just keep an eye on the temp gauge and TPMS once in a while
when we travel, and when we gas up, I check the engine oil and take a
look at the tires. Glad I am not towing a motel room.


So is everyone else using the same highway.




I've been pulling trailers behind trucks since I was 12, and legally
since I was 16. Never had an accident.


Keyser Soze May 25th 17 10:42 PM

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On 5/25/17 5:36 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 25 May 2017 15:57:50 -0400, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

On Thu, 25 May 2017 15:48:54 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:


Gosh, I just keep an eye on the temp gauge and TPMS once in a while when
we travel, and when we gas up, I check the engine oil and take a look at
the tires. Glad I am not towing a motel room.


Actually, it's a bit more than a motel room - two queen beds, refrigerator, stove, ... all the
comforts!


We are renting this place. I bet your RV doesn't have a hot tub and an
air hockey table ;-)

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/6...65598446_zpid/


My wife's aunt lives there...has a house on a hillside. Lovely place.

[email protected] May 25th 17 10:51 PM

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On Thu, 25 May 2017 15:59:44 -0400, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

On Thu, 25 May 2017 15:47:53 -0400, wrote:



We are going to North Carolina next week but that is still farther
than I want to drive. I am not sure how far it is but I am guessing
about 700-750.
It is a non stop flight from RSW to CLT so we are flying. Last time we
were on our way to DC with $600 worth of illegal fireworks so we drove
but we flew home.


Back in the old days, 700 miles in a day was no big deal. Hell, I've done 900 on my damn motorcycle.
Now I don't think I'd try more than 400 on the motorcycle and maybe 500 with the truck and trailer.


I always did that DC to St Pete trip in one shot 950 miles give or
take to the Treasure Island condo.
Fastest was a tad over 14 hours but that was really hauling ass and
only stopping for gas.

Poco Deplorevole May 26th 17 12:38 AM

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On Thu, 25 May 2017 17:36:26 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 25 May 2017 15:57:50 -0400, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

On Thu, 25 May 2017 15:48:54 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:


Gosh, I just keep an eye on the temp gauge and TPMS once in a while when
we travel, and when we gas up, I check the engine oil and take a look at
the tires. Glad I am not towing a motel room.


Actually, it's a bit more than a motel room - two queen beds, refrigerator, stove, ... all the
comforts!


We are renting this place. I bet your RV doesn't have a hot tub and an
air hockey table ;-)

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/6...65598446_zpid/

Nope, sure doesn't. If you get a chance to go by the Maggie Valley Golf Course. My brother used to
be the general manager. Of course, that was about 25 years ago. Don't know if it's still there now.

Poco Deplorevole May 26th 17 12:39 AM

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On Thu, 25 May 2017 17:39:40 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/25/17 4:07 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 5/25/2017 3:48 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/25/17 3:43 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 25 May 2017 12:57:19 -0400, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

On Thu, 25 May 2017 11:43:53 -0400,
wrote:

On Thu, 25 May 2017 06:32:10 -0400, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

Driving north on a hot, sunny afternoon on I-81 will raise the
tire temp a bunch. I wonder how the
TPMS compensates, if at all. I suppose if both driver-side tires
are at the same (higher) temp then
the fear would be reduced. I wish they also made a wheel bearing
temp monitoring system.

Do you have an IR gun? It is a handy thing for looking at all of that
stuff. They are getting pretty cheap but I would get one from the
middle of the pack, not the cheapest one you find.

Won't need one with the TPMS.

I was thinking more about the bearings you seemed to be worried about.
You can reach around and shoot the base of the spindle. They use those
guns on Pike's Peak to check brake rotor heats and if you are too hot,
they give you a time out.





Gosh, I just keep an eye on the temp gauge and TPMS once in a while
when we travel, and when we gas up, I check the engine oil and take a
look at the tires. Glad I am not towing a motel room.


So is everyone else using the same highway.




I've been pulling trailers behind trucks since I was 12, and legally
since I was 16. Never had an accident.


Yup. I'm sure you know what it's all about. Riding the Ducati much lately?

[email protected] May 26th 17 12:41 AM

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On Thu, 25 May 2017 17:26:04 -0400, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

On Thu, 25 May 2017 17:18:05 -0400, wrote:



I always time my trip so the Carolinas are in the middle of the night.
I like the sun to come up somewhere around Brunswick Ga.
You can haul ass that way, particularly if you have a CB.
When I was doing that a lot, I knew quite a few of those truckers and
I met some face to face. I rescued a guy on 270 one night and got a
lot of street cred from that.
I agree about that Richmond to Springfield part of 95.
One night I was on an call going from Rockville to just south of
Ashland and got hooked up with my truckers. I made that 90 mile trip
in about an hour.
I do the 301 thing too but I am going to Ridge these days so it is
pretty much the first right turn off the PR bridge.
When I was in Clinton I went that way tho.


I haven't had a CB since the early 80's. Used it a hell of a lot travelling across country and while
advising Reserve and National Guard units out west. Haven't used one at all since then. Have you
used one recently? I've heard that most of the truckers don't even use them anymore. Too much static
or whatever. I've thought about getting one, but haven't talked to anyone recently about them.


The last one I had on the road was in my van which I gave to my BIL in
the late 90s. I have not really made that Kamikaze trip to DC after I
got my last load of stuff here in 4q1984. I still had one in my garage
for years after that and I turned it on a few times. I was still
hearing the truckers on I-75.
These days they probably Facebook each other ;-)


[email protected] May 26th 17 01:14 AM

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On Thu, 25 May 2017 17:42:03 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 5/25/17 5:36 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 25 May 2017 15:57:50 -0400, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

On Thu, 25 May 2017 15:48:54 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:


Gosh, I just keep an eye on the temp gauge and TPMS once in a while when
we travel, and when we gas up, I check the engine oil and take a look at
the tires. Glad I am not towing a motel room.

Actually, it's a bit more than a motel room - two queen beds, refrigerator, stove, ... all the
comforts!


We are renting this place. I bet your RV doesn't have a hot tub and an
air hockey table ;-)

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/6...65598446_zpid/


My wife's aunt lives there...has a house on a hillside. Lovely place.


This will be our 4th trip to that same general Tenn/Ga/NC area. I
could assemble enough pictures of us next to Appalachian Trail signs
to make one think we actually hiked it ;-)
We just find a nice day hike up to the AT and go back to our cabin for
a nice hot shower a cold beer and a good dinner. I am not Bill Bryson.
It still usually involves a couple thousand feet of climb spread out
over 4-5 miles.
The worst one was this one in Tennessee. Someone told us the short cut
was Lead Cove Trail. We did not consider that it was in fact about 6
miles shorter than Bote Mountain Trail but the elevation rise was the
same! It was almost 2 miles of 16" steps after the 3 miles of a pretty
good grade from the car. This thing is just dried up a rocky
waterfall.

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/AT%20Tennessee.jpg

Tim May 26th 17 04:22 AM

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On Thursday, May 25, 2017 at 11:59:06 AM UTC-5, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Thu, 25 May 2017 11:52:42 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 25 May 2017 06:55:10 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Heh. One of the reasons I got out of RV'ing. Too many things to worry
about. I've grown to really like simplicity.

First blow out I had was on the christening voyage to Florida in a brand
new Pace Arrow Class A motorhome. Inner tire on rear blew.
Spent the night in a truck repair parking lot while the replacement was
ordered and delivered.

Pace Arrow was a piece of crap, BTW.


If you go often and go on short trips like John, the RV thing may be
worthwhile but for the once or twice a year guy, a first class plane
ticket, a rental car and a real nice hotel is a lot cheaper.


We leave on 8 June for the 'Bean Blossom Bluegrass Festival' in Bean Blossom, IN. That's about 650
miles, which, I suppose, is pretty short.


And if all goes well Ill be seeing you on the 9th...

Keyser Soze May 26th 17 12:40 PM

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On 5/25/17 11:22 PM, Tim wrote:
On Thursday, May 25, 2017 at 11:59:06 AM UTC-5, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Thu, 25 May 2017 11:52:42 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 25 May 2017 06:55:10 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Heh. One of the reasons I got out of RV'ing. Too many things to worry
about. I've grown to really like simplicity.

First blow out I had was on the christening voyage to Florida in a brand
new Pace Arrow Class A motorhome. Inner tire on rear blew.
Spent the night in a truck repair parking lot while the replacement was
ordered and delivered.

Pace Arrow was a piece of crap, BTW.


If you go often and go on short trips like John, the RV thing may be
worthwhile but for the once or twice a year guy, a first class plane
ticket, a rental car and a real nice hotel is a lot cheaper.


We leave on 8 June for the 'Bean Blossom Bluegrass Festival' in Bean Blossom, IN. That's about 650
miles, which, I suppose, is pretty short.


And if all goes well Ill be seeing you on the 9th...


Wow.

Keyser Soze May 26th 17 01:10 PM

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On 5/25/17 8:14 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 25 May 2017 17:42:03 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 5/25/17 5:36 PM,
wrote:
On Thu, 25 May 2017 15:57:50 -0400, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

On Thu, 25 May 2017 15:48:54 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

Gosh, I just keep an eye on the temp gauge and TPMS once in a while when
we travel, and when we gas up, I check the engine oil and take a look at
the tires. Glad I am not towing a motel room.

Actually, it's a bit more than a motel room - two queen beds, refrigerator, stove, ... all the
comforts!

We are renting this place. I bet your RV doesn't have a hot tub and an
air hockey table ;-)

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/6...65598446_zpid/


My wife's aunt lives there...has a house on a hillside. Lovely place.


This will be our 4th trip to that same general Tenn/Ga/NC area. I
could assemble enough pictures of us next to Appalachian Trail signs
to make one think we actually hiked it ;-)
We just find a nice day hike up to the AT and go back to our cabin for
a nice hot shower a cold beer and a good dinner. I am not Bill Bryson.
It still usually involves a couple thousand feet of climb spread out
over 4-5 miles.
The worst one was this one in Tennessee. Someone told us the short cut
was Lead Cove Trail. We did not consider that it was in fact about 6
miles shorter than Bote Mountain Trail but the elevation rise was the
same! It was almost 2 miles of 16" steps after the 3 miles of a pretty
good grade from the car. This thing is just dried up a rocky
waterfall.

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/AT%20Tennessee.jpg


On the other hand, Bryson probably doesn't have a musical tiki bar. :)

I've only been to the Maggie Valley once. I do some hiking in the
Shenandoah area over in Virginia.

Poco Deplorevole May 26th 17 02:00 PM

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On Thu, 25 May 2017 20:22:48 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Thursday, May 25, 2017 at 11:59:06 AM UTC-5, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Thu, 25 May 2017 11:52:42 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 25 May 2017 06:55:10 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Heh. One of the reasons I got out of RV'ing. Too many things to worry
about. I've grown to really like simplicity.

First blow out I had was on the christening voyage to Florida in a brand
new Pace Arrow Class A motorhome. Inner tire on rear blew.
Spent the night in a truck repair parking lot while the replacement was
ordered and delivered.

Pace Arrow was a piece of crap, BTW.


If you go often and go on short trips like John, the RV thing may be
worthwhile but for the once or twice a year guy, a first class plane
ticket, a rental car and a real nice hotel is a lot cheaper.


We leave on 8 June for the 'Bean Blossom Bluegrass Festival' in Bean Blossom, IN. That's about 650
miles, which, I suppose, is pretty short.


And if all goes well Ill be seeing you on the 9th...


No, the 10th. The show starts then. We'll get there the evening of the 9th, God willing and the
creek don't rise.

Tim May 26th 17 03:21 PM

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8:00 AMPoco Deplorevole
On Thu, 25 May 2017 20:22:48 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Thursday, May 25, 2017 at 11:59:06 AM UTC-5, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Thu, 25 May 2017 11:52:42 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 25 May 2017 06:55:10 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Heh. One of the reasons I got out of RV'ing. Too many things to worry
about. I've grown to really like simplicity.

First blow out I had was on the christening voyage to Florida in a brand
new Pace Arrow Class A motorhome. Inner tire on rear blew.
Spent the night in a truck repair parking lot while the replacement was
ordered and delivered.

Pace Arrow was a piece of crap, BTW.


If you go often and go on short trips like John, the RV thing may be
worthwhile but for the once or twice a year guy, a first class plane
ticket, a rental car and a real nice hotel is a lot cheaper.


We leave on 8 June for the 'Bean Blossom Bluegrass Festival' in Bean Blossom, IN. That's about 650
miles, which, I suppose, is pretty short.


And if all goes well Ill be seeing you on the 9th...


No, the 10th. The show starts then. We'll get there the evening of the 9th, God willing and the
creek don't rise.
.....

That's right. I'll probably be leaving early and getting back late on the 10th. Looking forward to it !

justan May 27th 17 04:17 PM

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Wrote in message:
On Thu, 25 May 2017 06:55:10 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Heh. One of the reasons I got out of RV'ing. Too many things to worry
about. I've grown to really like simplicity.

First blow out I had was on the christening voyage to Florida in a brand
new Pace Arrow Class A motorhome. Inner tire on rear blew.
Spent the night in a truck repair parking lot while the replacement was
ordered and delivered.

Pace Arrow was a piece of crap, BTW.


If you go often and go on short trips like John, the RV thing may be
worthwhile but for the once or twice a year guy, a first class plane
ticket, a rental car and a real nice hotel is a lot cheaper.


For those who hate flying and get creeped out by unsanitary
hotels, options are limited.
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