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Tim May 1st 17 08:48 PM

.303 British.
 
This is one reason why I love 'em.
Just ordered 2 cases

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/175...day-_-20170429

Keyser Soze May 1st 17 08:59 PM

.303 British.
 
On 5/1/17 3:48 PM, Tim wrote:
This is one reason why I love 'em.
Just ordered 2 cases

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/175...day-_-20170429



Let me guess...you like it because:

1. It is corrosive.
2. It has a Berdan primer.
3. It is cheap.

I'm guessing #3.

Is that the round you use on groundhogs and squirrels?



Poco Deplorevole May 1st 17 09:10 PM

.303 British.
 
On Mon, 1 May 2017 15:59:36 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/1/17 3:48 PM, Tim wrote:
This is one reason why I love 'em.
Just ordered 2 cases

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/175...day-_-20170429



Let me guess...you like it because:

1. It is corrosive.
2. It has a Berdan primer.
3. It is cheap.

I'm guessing #3.

Is that the round you use on groundhogs and squirrels?


You find it absolutely necessary to be assholish, don't you?

Keyser Soze May 1st 17 09:16 PM

.303 British.
 
On 5/1/17 4:10 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Mon, 1 May 2017 15:59:36 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/1/17 3:48 PM, Tim wrote:
This is one reason why I love 'em.
Just ordered 2 cases

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/175...day-_-20170429



Let me guess...you like it because:

1. It is corrosive.
2. It has a Berdan primer.
3. It is cheap.

I'm guessing #3.

Is that the round you use on groundhogs and squirrels?


You find it absolutely necessary to be assholish, don't you?


I could say I am just following your daily and plentiful assholish
examples, JohnnyMop.

Perhaps your buddy Tim might specify *why* he likes those rounds. I like
cheap ammo, too, but I wouldn't buy any with Berdan primers or that were
corrosive. I'm wondering what the reason was for his delight. Is it
accuracy? Reliability?

Tim May 1st 17 09:25 PM

.303 British.
 

2:59 PMKeyser Soze
- show quoted text -
Let me guess...you like it because:

1. It is corrosive.
2. It has a Berdan primer.
3. It is cheap.

I'm guessing #3.

Is that the round you use on groundhogs and squirrels?
......

Groundhogs- yes
Squirrels-no

Using surplus machine gum rounds (Greek mfg. 1947) and bench rest. I whacked a groundhog at 260 yd. with open iron sights. Btw, the rifle was made in 1906 by BSA.
With half its rifling shot out from corrosive ammo it's still an accurate weapon.

Squirrels. I use a Winchester model 77 with a 4x Weaver scope. It's chambered for .22 short only.

One thing about berdan primers and cellulite propellants, is you take a bit extra time cleaning the rifle after you're done with it. I'm probably more thorough with cleaning than most because if that reason.

Mr. Luddite May 1st 17 09:32 PM

.303 British.
 
On 5/1/2017 4:10 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Mon, 1 May 2017 15:59:36 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/1/17 3:48 PM, Tim wrote:
This is one reason why I love 'em.
Just ordered 2 cases

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/175...day-_-20170429



Let me guess...you like it because:

1. It is corrosive.
2. It has a Berdan primer.
3. It is cheap.

I'm guessing #3.

Is that the round you use on groundhogs and squirrels?


You find it absolutely necessary to be assholish, don't you?



Only if you are a Republican.

Keyser Soze May 1st 17 09:35 PM

.303 British.
 
On 5/1/17 4:25 PM, Tim wrote:

2:59 PMKeyser Soze
- show quoted text -
Let me guess...you like it because:

1. It is corrosive.
2. It has a Berdan primer.
3. It is cheap.

I'm guessing #3.

Is that the round you use on groundhogs and squirrels?
.....

Groundhogs- yes
Squirrels-no

Using surplus machine gum rounds (Greek mfg. 1947) and bench rest. I whacked a groundhog at 260 yd. with open iron sights. Btw, the rifle was made in 1906 by BSA.
With half its rifling shot out from corrosive ammo it's still an accurate weapon.

Squirrels. I use a Winchester model 77 with a 4x Weaver scope. It's chambered for .22 short only.

One thing about berdan primers and cellulite propellants, is you take a bit extra time cleaning the rifle after you're done with it. I'm probably more thorough with cleaning than most because if that reason.


I'm afraid my wife puts food out at the edge of the woods for the
squirrels in squirrel feeders. When my sister in law visited, she
commented that we had "the biggest squirrels" she had ever seen. I have
to agree. We don't shoot critters around here. :)

Why .22 shorts? It's still more expensive than .22LR. Is there some
advantage to the round? Quiet? The shooting arcades at Savin Rock, the
old amusement park in West Haven, Connecticut, were equipped with .22
short rifles.


Keyser Soze May 1st 17 09:36 PM

.303 British.
 
On 5/1/17 4:32 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 5/1/2017 4:10 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Mon, 1 May 2017 15:59:36 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/1/17 3:48 PM, Tim wrote:
This is one reason why I love 'em.
Just ordered 2 cases

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/175...day-_-20170429




Let me guess...you like it because:

1. It is corrosive.
2. It has a Berdan primer.
3. It is cheap.

I'm guessing #3.

Is that the round you use on groundhogs and squirrels?


You find it absolutely necessary to be assholish, don't you?



Only if you are a Republican.


Well, then, JohnnyMop is fully qualified.

Mr. Luddite May 1st 17 09:37 PM

.303 British.
 
On 5/1/2017 4:25 PM, Tim wrote:

2:59 PMKeyser Soze
- show quoted text -
Let me guess...you like it because:

1. It is corrosive.
2. It has a Berdan primer.
3. It is cheap.

I'm guessing #3.

Is that the round you use on groundhogs and squirrels?
.....

Groundhogs- yes
Squirrels-no

Using surplus machine gum rounds (Greek mfg. 1947) and bench rest. I whacked a groundhog at 260 yd. with open iron sights. Btw, the rifle was made in 1906 by BSA.
With half its rifling shot out from corrosive ammo it's still an accurate weapon.

Squirrels. I use a Winchester model 77 with a 4x Weaver scope. It's chambered for .22 short only.

One thing about berdan primers and cellulite propellants, is you take a bit extra time cleaning the rifle after you're done with it. I'm probably more thorough with cleaning than most because if that reason.




Speaking of rifles, I came across this video a couple of days ago.
Italian made air rifle used by Lewis and Clark. Capable of putting a
round ball round through a 1-inch pine board at 100 yards.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pqFyKh-rUI

Tim May 1st 17 10:27 PM

.303 British.
 
advantage to the round? Quiet? The shooting arcades at Savin Rock, the
old amusement park in West Haven, Connecticut, were equipped with .22
......

That's exactly it. Sure they make noise but don't have the *kee-raack* you get with the LRs.

Concerning squirrels. They're pretty tasty when roasted right. And with all the woods around me, there's a never ending supply of em...

Keyser Soze May 1st 17 11:20 PM

.303 British.
 
On 5/1/17 5:27 PM, Tim wrote:
advantage to the round? Quiet? The shooting arcades at Savin Rock, the
old amusement park in West Haven, Connecticut, were equipped with .22
.....

That's exactly it. Sure they make noise but don't have the *kee-raack* you get with the LRs.

Concerning squirrels. They're pretty tasty when roasted right. And with all the woods around me, there's a never ending supply of em...


Thanks.

Mr. Luddite May 2nd 17 12:13 AM

.303 British.
 
On 5/1/2017 5:27 PM, Tim wrote:
advantage to the round? Quiet? The shooting arcades at Savin Rock, the
old amusement park in West Haven, Connecticut, were equipped with .22
.....

That's exactly it. Sure they make noise but don't have the *kee-raack* you get with the LRs.

Concerning squirrels. They're pretty tasty when roasted right. And with all the woods around me, there's a never ending supply of em...



So, when you guys go to Colonel Sander's joints, do
you say, "Tastes just like squirrel?"

Tim May 2nd 17 01:05 AM

.303 British.
 

6:13 PMMr. Luddite
- show quoted text -
So, when you guys go to Colonel Sander's joints, do
you say, "Tastes just like squirrel?"
.....

Lol!!!

[email protected] May 2nd 17 01:05 AM

.303 British.
 
On Mon, 1 May 2017 16:35:17 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:


I'm afraid my wife puts food out at the edge of the woods for the
squirrels in squirrel feeders. When my sister in law visited, she
commented that we had "the biggest squirrels" she had ever seen. I have
to agree. We don't shoot critters around here. :)


Do you have regular old gray squirrels or do you have the giant red
fox squirrels. The ones in the Big Cypress can get up to 3 pounds or
so.

Keyser Soze May 2nd 17 11:07 AM

.303 British.
 
On 5/1/17 8:05 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 1 May 2017 16:35:17 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:


I'm afraid my wife puts food out at the edge of the woods for the
squirrels in squirrel feeders. When my sister in law visited, she
commented that we had "the biggest squirrels" she had ever seen. I have
to agree. We don't shoot critters around here. :)


Do you have regular old gray squirrels or do you have the giant red
fox squirrels. The ones in the Big Cypress can get up to 3 pounds or
so.


Plain old ordinary squirrels.

Tim May 2nd 17 12:31 PM

.303 British.
 
On Monday, May 1, 2017 at 7:06:09 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Mon, 1 May 2017 16:35:17 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:


I'm afraid my wife puts food out at the edge of the woods for the
squirrels in squirrel feeders. When my sister in law visited, she
commented that we had "the biggest squirrels" she had ever seen. I have
to agree. We don't shoot critters around here. :)


Do you have regular old gray squirrels or do you have the giant red
fox squirrels. The ones in the Big Cypress can get up to 3 pounds or
so.


We have both, Greg. The big reds are much more aggressive than the gray. And they;ll take over and run the grays out if you let 'em.

Poco Deplorevole May 2nd 17 12:37 PM

.303 British.
 
On Mon, 1 May 2017 14:27:03 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

advantage to the round? Quiet? The shooting arcades at Savin Rock, the
old amusement park in West Haven, Connecticut, were equipped with .22
.....

That's exactly it. Sure they make noise but don't have the *kee-raack* you get with the LRs.

Concerning squirrels. They're pretty tasty when roasted right. And with all the woods around me, there's a never ending supply of em...


Bread 'em, brown 'em, put 'em in a pot (covered with some water), and roast 'em. Good eatin'.

Poco Deplorevole May 2nd 17 12:44 PM

.303 British.
 
On Mon, 1 May 2017 18:06:39 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

Tim Wrote in message:
This is one reason why I love 'em.
Just ordered 2 cases

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/175...day-_-20170429


It did mention corosive 4 or 5 times. That doesn't concern you?


My Mosin Nagant undoubtedly had lots of corrosive ammo run through it, but the barrel is beautiful.
Someone cleaned it right after shooting.

Nice explanation: https://www.theboxotruth.com/educati...orrosive-ammo/

Poco Deplorevole May 2nd 17 12:45 PM

.303 British.
 
On Mon, 1 May 2017 19:13:06 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 5/1/2017 5:27 PM, Tim wrote:
advantage to the round? Quiet? The shooting arcades at Savin Rock, the
old amusement park in West Haven, Connecticut, were equipped with .22
.....

That's exactly it. Sure they make noise but don't have the *kee-raack* you get with the LRs.

Concerning squirrels. They're pretty tasty when roasted right. And with all the woods around me, there's a never ending supply of em...



So, when you guys go to Colonel Sander's joints, do
you say, "Tastes just like squirrel?"


No.

Mr. Luddite May 2nd 17 12:45 PM

.303 British.
 
On 5/2/2017 6:07 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/1/17 8:05 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 1 May 2017 16:35:17 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:


I'm afraid my wife puts food out at the edge of the woods for the
squirrels in squirrel feeders. When my sister in law visited, she
commented that we had "the biggest squirrels" she had ever seen. I have
to agree. We don't shoot critters around here. :)


Do you have regular old gray squirrels or do you have the giant red
fox squirrels. The ones in the Big Cypress can get up to 3 pounds or
so.


Plain old ordinary squirrels.



The squirrels that set up residence in the attic of our house were red,
but they were smaller than the ordinary grey squirrels. I'd say they
were slightly larger than a fat chipmunk. They were also a pain in the
ass to get rid of. I bought a trap and at one point was catching 6 or 7
a day in it or so I thought I was. My mistake was in taking them
outside and releasing them, first out in the woods near the house, then
a mile away, then a couple of miles away. I found out that they are
notorious for returning to the the nice, warm house they had discovered.
I also found out that catching them and releasing them somewhere else
is illegal. I finally talked to an exterminator who we used annually
to spray for bugs and who also got rid of some bats that set up
residence at one time. He told me that what I was doing (trapping them)
was the right way to catch them versus setting poison traps but
unfortunately the only way to prevent them from returning was to kill
them. He recommended a large bucket of water that the whole trap could
be submerged in as the means of execution. It was disturbing at first
but they would drown in about 10 seconds. Only took two or three days
and no more little red squirrels in the house. I thought it was
infested with them but in reality there were only about 4-5. They just
had been returning faster than I could catch and release them.


Poco Deplorevole May 2nd 17 01:11 PM

.303 British.
 
On Tue, 02 May 2017 07:37:02 -0400, Poco Deplorevole wrote:

On Mon, 1 May 2017 14:27:03 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

advantage to the round? Quiet? The shooting arcades at Savin Rock, the
old amusement park in West Haven, Connecticut, were equipped with .22
.....

That's exactly it. Sure they make noise but don't have the *kee-raack* you get with the LRs.

Concerning squirrels. They're pretty tasty when roasted right. And with all the woods around me, there's a never ending supply of em...


Bread 'em, brown 'em, put 'em in a pot (covered with some water), and roast 'em. Good eatin'.


Whoops, should be a comma after 'covered'. Only a little water.

Poco Deplorevole May 2nd 17 01:12 PM

.303 British.
 
On Tue, 2 May 2017 07:45:13 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 5/2/2017 6:07 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/1/17 8:05 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 1 May 2017 16:35:17 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:


I'm afraid my wife puts food out at the edge of the woods for the
squirrels in squirrel feeders. When my sister in law visited, she
commented that we had "the biggest squirrels" she had ever seen. I have
to agree. We don't shoot critters around here. :)

Do you have regular old gray squirrels or do you have the giant red
fox squirrels. The ones in the Big Cypress can get up to 3 pounds or
so.


Plain old ordinary squirrels.



The squirrels that set up residence in the attic of our house were red,
but they were smaller than the ordinary grey squirrels. I'd say they
were slightly larger than a fat chipmunk. They were also a pain in the
ass to get rid of. I bought a trap and at one point was catching 6 or 7
a day in it or so I thought I was. My mistake was in taking them
outside and releasing them, first out in the woods near the house, then
a mile away, then a couple of miles away. I found out that they are
notorious for returning to the the nice, warm house they had discovered.
I also found out that catching them and releasing them somewhere else
is illegal. I finally talked to an exterminator who we used annually
to spray for bugs and who also got rid of some bats that set up
residence at one time. He told me that what I was doing (trapping them)
was the right way to catch them versus setting poison traps but
unfortunately the only way to prevent them from returning was to kill
them. He recommended a large bucket of water that the whole trap could
be submerged in as the means of execution. It was disturbing at first
but they would drown in about 10 seconds. Only took two or three days
and no more little red squirrels in the house. I thought it was
infested with them but in reality there were only about 4-5. They just
had been returning faster than I could catch and release them.


I read somewhere that chipmunks will return from up to seven miles away. Some guy had spray painted
white dots on the backs of a few he released.


[email protected] May 2nd 17 01:19 PM

.303 British.
 
On Tue, 2 May 2017 07:45:13 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


The squirrels that set up residence in the attic of our house were red,
but they were smaller than the ordinary grey squirrels. I'd say they
were slightly larger than a fat chipmunk. They were also a pain in the
ass to get rid of. I bought a trap and at one point was catching 6 or 7
a day in it or so I thought I was. My mistake was in taking them
outside and releasing them, first out in the woods near the house, then
a mile away, then a couple of miles away. I found out that they are
notorious for returning to the the nice, warm house they had discovered.
I also found out that catching them and releasing them somewhere else
is illegal. I finally talked to an exterminator who we used annually
to spray for bugs and who also got rid of some bats that set up
residence at one time. He told me that what I was doing (trapping them)
was the right way to catch them versus setting poison traps but
unfortunately the only way to prevent them from returning was to kill
them. He recommended a large bucket of water that the whole trap could
be submerged in as the means of execution. It was disturbing at first
but they would drown in about 10 seconds. Only took two or three days
and no more little red squirrels in the house. I thought it was
infested with them but in reality there were only about 4-5. They just
had been returning faster than I could catch and release them.


Until you find and plug the holes, trapping only makes you feel like
you are doing something. Squirrels and roof rats will leave a scent
trail and they will attract more through whatever hole they have
chewed or simply found.
Usually rats (bushy tail or otherwise) chew the hole out and they
originally got in another way. Once they establish a hole, it attracts
more.

Bill[_12_] May 2nd 17 06:08 PM

.303 British.
 
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 5/2/2017 6:07 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/1/17 8:05 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 1 May 2017 16:35:17 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:


I'm afraid my wife puts food out at the edge of the woods for the
squirrels in squirrel feeders. When my sister in law visited, she
commented that we had "the biggest squirrels" she had ever seen. I have
to agree. We don't shoot critters around here. :)

Do you have regular old gray squirrels or do you have the giant red
fox squirrels. The ones in the Big Cypress can get up to 3 pounds or
so.


Plain old ordinary squirrels.



The squirrels that set up residence in the attic of our house were red,
but they were smaller than the ordinary grey squirrels. I'd say they
were slightly larger than a fat chipmunk. They were also a pain in the
ass to get rid of. I bought a trap and at one point was catching 6 or 7
a day in it or so I thought I was. My mistake was in taking them
outside and releasing them, first out in the woods near the house, then
a mile away, then a couple of miles away. I found out that they are
notorious for returning to the the nice, warm house they had discovered.
I also found out that catching them and releasing them somewhere else
is illegal. I finally talked to an exterminator who we used annually
to spray for bugs and who also got rid of some bats that set up
residence at one time. He told me that what I was doing (trapping them)
was the right way to catch them versus setting poison traps but
unfortunately the only way to prevent them from returning was to kill
them. He recommended a large bucket of water that the whole trap could
be submerged in as the means of execution. It was disturbing at first
but they would drown in about 10 seconds. Only took two or three days
and no more little red squirrels in the house. I thought it was
infested with them but in reality there were only about 4-5. They just
had been returning faster than I could catch and release them.



Red fox squirrels are not native to California, but years ago, someone
released some here. Very aggressive and have run the large California Grey
Squirrel out of at least the Bay Area. We have a bunch that visit the yard
for the bird feeder. But unlike the Roof Rats, they stay out of the house
and live in the palm tree.


Alex[_11_] May 2nd 17 11:59 PM

.303 British.
 
Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Mon, 1 May 2017 18:06:39 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

Tim Wrote in message:
This is one reason why I love 'em.
Just ordered 2 cases

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/175...day-_-20170429

It did mention corosive 4 or 5 times. That doesn't concern you?

My Mosin Nagant undoubtedly had lots of corrosive ammo run through it, but the barrel is beautiful.
Someone cleaned it right after shooting.

Nice explanation: https://www.theboxotruth.com/educati...orrosive-ammo/


Interesting. I wonder if firing a dozen rounds of non-corrosive ammo
through it at the end of the day would help clean out the crap.

Tim May 3rd 17 12:43 AM

.303 British.
 
Alex
- show quoted text -
Interesting. I wonder if firing a dozen rounds of non-corrosive ammo
through it at the end of the day would help clean out the crap.

That's a very good question. When I got my Longbranch SMLE enfield, it had a pretty rusty barrel. Oh it was safe but I wasn't going to waste a couple hrs swabbing it with wire bristles when I could sight it in. At the old farm I had about a 300 yd range set up and I took some loaded magazines with me. Sprays everything down with a generous amount of cheap penetrating oil and had at it.

After about 30 rds of fast "cock-aim-pull" type shooting, it was hot and as inaccurate as it could be. I pulled the bolt and looked through the barrel. Man did it clean up!

I let it cool then went through a total pull down, cleaned it up reassembled and oiled. Except for some unavoidable pitting, it's got a really nice full bore. But yes, all those rotten corrosive surplus rounds really knocked loose the crud!

Tim May 3rd 17 04:31 PM

.303 British.
 
Crap! Got an email and reimbursement.

Out of stock already! That's a shame. Good price oh well. There's more to come from somewhere. It's a never ending supply.

Poco Deplorevole May 3rd 17 05:16 PM

.303 British.
 
On Wed, 3 May 2017 08:31:01 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

Crap! Got an email and reimbursement.

Out of stock already! That's a shame. Good price oh well. There's more to come from somewhere. It's a never ending supply.


Don't feel bad. Today at WalMart I bought two 100 round boxes of .223. When I'd asked the price,
which wasn't marked, I thought Juan said $27 per box. Then he rang them up and I saw the ticket.
He'd actually said $37 per box. Plus tax that came to about 40 cents a round. Could have done better
at Sportsman Guide with free shipping!

Tim May 3rd 17 05:31 PM

.303 British.
 
Well John, for retail, "walk in-walk out" that's not bad.

Keyser Soze May 3rd 17 06:29 PM

.303 British.
 
On 5/3/17 12:31 PM, Tim wrote:
Well John, for retail, "walk in-walk out" that's not bad.


There's no shortage of reliable mail order suppliers with name brand
..223 brass ammo at under 30 cents a round, and some offer free shipping.
Most do not collect sales tax.

Its Me May 3rd 17 10:13 PM

.303 British.
 
On Wednesday, May 3, 2017 at 1:29:37 PM UTC-4, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/3/17 12:31 PM, Tim wrote:
Well John, for retail, "walk in-walk out" that's not bad.


There's no shortage of reliable mail order suppliers with name brand
.223 brass ammo at under 30 cents a round, and some offer free shipping.
Most do not collect sales tax.


However you're supposed to pay it yourself. Although, I do realize you don't have a very good track record paying taxes.

Poco Deplorevole May 3rd 17 10:48 PM

.303 British.
 
On Wed, 3 May 2017 14:13:40 -0700 (PDT), Its Me wrote:

On Wednesday, May 3, 2017 at 1:29:37 PM UTC-4, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/3/17 12:31 PM, Tim wrote:
Well John, for retail, "walk in-walk out" that's not bad.


There's no shortage of reliable mail order suppliers with name brand
.223 brass ammo at under 30 cents a round, and some offer free shipping.
Most do not collect sales tax.


However you're supposed to pay it yourself. Although, I do realize you don't have a very good track record paying taxes.


The Virginia laws require payment of taxes on mail-ordered items. If the tax is not collected by the
firm, then the buyer must declare it on the state income tax return.

Perhaps Maryland is more lenient in this regard, or perhaps Harry just cheats there also.


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