Probably because they don't have the resources to take the average
five
years of loss before a startup business becomes profitable. Most have to
eat
in the mean time and have a hard time affording that.
Paul

I see, so the folks who manage to save enough money to cover their startup
costs; who work 18 hour days to get the business going; who sacrifice their
time and social life for years; who risk all that they own over lawsuits or
market trends- these folks don't deserve to make a healthy profit from their
business? How about if that handsome profit goes to purchase new equipment
(boosting the manufacturing sector), hire more workers (providing income for
those who are willing to work), and boost their own income (raising the tax
base and local cash flow, "churning" the money to support other businesses
and employees) ?

It's an interesting view that you have, Paul. Most of us who were born with
nothing end up with whatever we've earned. No one owes us anything. Nada.
Not a nickel. The only person that I was taught to count on is myself, and I
have a very trustworthy partner to that end.


This is the recipe for success in business:

--The drive to succeed.
--The spiritual or moral fortitude to be self-reliant.
--The spiritual or moral fortitude to be charitable once successful. (and
not by force or taxation- by choice) Can you say "Carnegie Foundation" or
"Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation", etc? I knew that you could...
--The courage to take risks- both monetary and personal.
--The vision to realize what you're good at, and surround yourself with
people who are better at it.
--The perseverence to weather hard times, long hours, and personal
sacrifices to help build a business that not only supports you and your
family, but also provides jobs for your workers, taxes to support local
government, and benefits your suppliers (and their employees, etc, etc) and
society as a whole.


There is a reason why an "entry level" job doesn't pay much- because it
doesn't require specialized training, experience, or tremendous talent to
master. Most of us build upon our experience in an "entry level" job by
moving on to better and better jobs, once we've gained the experience and
training afforded us by the previous job. Those who complain about not
"making enough" in an entry level job either don't understand how to build a
career, or feel that they are somehow "entitled" to a larger income simply
because they see other folks making more.


Looking forward to your Leftist rant, Paul.

Stanley,
My leftist rant? For starters I never disputed or stated otherwise from
what you posted below. I pretty much agree with what you posted. I did
answer, in my opinion, why the fruit pickers couldn't start their own
business. Why do you so venomously disagree with my answer? Workers wouldn't
be anything without employers nor would employers be anything without
employees (unless you're a one person operation). We should give as much
help, as we can afford, to give the opportunity for all employees to become
employers for just the reasons you state.
Paul

"Stanley Barthfarkle" wrote in message
. ..
Probably because they don't have the resources to take the average
five
years of loss before a startup business becomes profitable. Most have to
eat
in the mean time and have a hard time affording that.
Paul

I see, so the folks who manage to save enough money to cover their startup
costs; who work 18 hour days to get the business going; who sacrifice
their
time and social life for years; who risk all that they own over lawsuits
or
market trends- these folks don't deserve to make a healthy profit from
their
business? How about if that handsome profit goes to purchase new equipment
(boosting the manufacturing sector), hire more workers (providing income
for
those who are willing to work), and boost their own income (raising the
tax
base and local cash flow, "churning" the money to support other businesses
and employees) ?

It's an interesting view that you have, Paul. Most of us who were born
with
nothing end up with whatever we've earned. No one owes us anything. Nada.
Not a nickel. The only person that I was taught to count on is myself, and
I
have a very trustworthy partner to that end.


This is the recipe for success in business:

--The drive to succeed.
--The spiritual or moral fortitude to be self-reliant.
--The spiritual or moral fortitude to be charitable once successful. (and
not by force or taxation- by choice) Can you say "Carnegie Foundation" or
"Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation", etc? I knew that you could...
--The courage to take risks- both monetary and personal.
--The vision to realize what you're good at, and surround yourself with
people who are better at it.
--The perseverence to weather hard times, long hours, and personal
sacrifices to help build a business that not only supports you and your
family, but also provides jobs for your workers, taxes to support local
government, and benefits your suppliers (and their employees, etc, etc)
and
society as a whole.


There is a reason why an "entry level" job doesn't pay much- because it
doesn't require specialized training, experience, or tremendous talent to
master. Most of us build upon our experience in an "entry level" job by
moving on to better and better jobs, once we've gained the experience and
training afforded us by the previous job. Those who complain about not
"making enough" in an entry level job either don't understand how to build
a
career, or feel that they are somehow "entitled" to a larger income simply
because they see other folks making more.


Looking forward to your Leftist rant, Paul.