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"JohnH" wrote in message ... On 26 Jul 2004 03:57:36 -0700, (basskisser) wrote: "MEN" wrote in message ... "Stanley Barthfarkle" wrote in message . .. Better yet, why don't the pickers get together, save some money, buy some land, plant some trees, and start their own orchard? Oh yes, I guess it's because then they would be the "evil" bosses, who provide jobs for the poor "little people". Because they are all here illegally, and so far, we're not STUPID enough to give them federal loans. But soon we will be, if KERRY gets in, and then we'll FORGIVE the loans as well. Dumb and dumber...Kerry and Edwards. Actually, Kerry worked for his money, chasing ambulances. Ah, so it's quite all right for the republican orchard owners to exploit the workers, but your just dumb if you want them to have any rights or priveleges, huh? It's "you're just dumb...". Isn't Harry reviewing your posts, b'asskisser? John H On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD, on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay! Unfrickenbelievable. |
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"basskisser" wrote in message om... "NOYB" wrote in message news:fqednRBmWe-_pZncRVn- And Joe has Republican capitalists to thank for providing everything that he consumed in his day. Without them, he'd have picked his own fruits and berries when he got up that morning...that is, if he survived without the medications he needs. That's ignorant. There were purveyors of goods thousands of years before there were "Republican capitalists". Yes, and they were "capitalists", but just not in name. They would be Republicans if there were alive today. |
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Stanley,
Probably because they don't have the resources to take the average five years of loss before a startup business becomes profitable. Most have to eat in the mean time and have a hard time affording that. Paul "Stanley Barthfarkle" wrote in message . .. Better yet, why don't the pickers get together, save some money, buy some land, plant some trees, and start their own orchard? Oh yes, I guess it's because then they would be the "evil" bosses, who provide jobs for the poor "little people". "Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Sun, 25 Jul 2004 22:43:04 -0400, Harry Krause wrote: The Republicans own the orchards and exploit the pickers. =============================== So why don't the pickers find another occupation or strike for higher wages? |
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Probably because they don't have the resources to take the average
five years of loss before a startup business becomes profitable. Most have to eat in the mean time and have a hard time affording that. Paul I see, so the folks who manage to save enough money to cover their startup costs; who work 18 hour days to get the business going; who sacrifice their time and social life for years; who risk all that they own over lawsuits or market trends- these folks don't deserve to make a healthy profit from their business? How about if that handsome profit goes to purchase new equipment (boosting the manufacturing sector), hire more workers (providing income for those who are willing to work), and boost their own income (raising the tax base and local cash flow, "churning" the money to support other businesses and employees) ? It's an interesting view that you have, Paul. Most of us who were born with nothing end up with whatever we've earned. No one owes us anything. Nada. Not a nickel. The only person that I was taught to count on is myself, and I have a very trustworthy partner to that end. This is the recipe for success in business: --The drive to succeed. --The spiritual or moral fortitude to be self-reliant. --The spiritual or moral fortitude to be charitable once successful. (and not by force or taxation- by choice) Can you say "Carnegie Foundation" or "Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation", etc? I knew that you could... --The courage to take risks- both monetary and personal. --The vision to realize what you're good at, and surround yourself with people who are better at it. --The perseverence to weather hard times, long hours, and personal sacrifices to help build a business that not only supports you and your family, but also provides jobs for your workers, taxes to support local government, and benefits your suppliers (and their employees, etc, etc) and society as a whole. There is a reason why an "entry level" job doesn't pay much- because it doesn't require specialized training, experience, or tremendous talent to master. Most of us build upon our experience in an "entry level" job by moving on to better and better jobs, once we've gained the experience and training afforded us by the previous job. Those who complain about not "making enough" in an entry level job either don't understand how to build a career, or feel that they are somehow "entitled" to a larger income simply because they see other folks making more. Looking forward to your Leftist rant, Paul. |
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Stanley,
My leftist rant? For starters I never disputed or stated otherwise from what you posted below. I pretty much agree with what you posted. I did answer, in my opinion, why the fruit pickers couldn't start their own business. Why do you so venomously disagree with my answer? Workers wouldn't be anything without employers nor would employers be anything without employees (unless you're a one person operation). We should give as much help, as we can afford, to give the opportunity for all employees to become employers for just the reasons you state. Paul "Stanley Barthfarkle" wrote in message . .. Probably because they don't have the resources to take the average five years of loss before a startup business becomes profitable. Most have to eat in the mean time and have a hard time affording that. Paul I see, so the folks who manage to save enough money to cover their startup costs; who work 18 hour days to get the business going; who sacrifice their time and social life for years; who risk all that they own over lawsuits or market trends- these folks don't deserve to make a healthy profit from their business? How about if that handsome profit goes to purchase new equipment (boosting the manufacturing sector), hire more workers (providing income for those who are willing to work), and boost their own income (raising the tax base and local cash flow, "churning" the money to support other businesses and employees) ? It's an interesting view that you have, Paul. Most of us who were born with nothing end up with whatever we've earned. No one owes us anything. Nada. Not a nickel. The only person that I was taught to count on is myself, and I have a very trustworthy partner to that end. This is the recipe for success in business: --The drive to succeed. --The spiritual or moral fortitude to be self-reliant. --The spiritual or moral fortitude to be charitable once successful. (and not by force or taxation- by choice) Can you say "Carnegie Foundation" or "Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation", etc? I knew that you could... --The courage to take risks- both monetary and personal. --The vision to realize what you're good at, and surround yourself with people who are better at it. --The perseverence to weather hard times, long hours, and personal sacrifices to help build a business that not only supports you and your family, but also provides jobs for your workers, taxes to support local government, and benefits your suppliers (and their employees, etc, etc) and society as a whole. There is a reason why an "entry level" job doesn't pay much- because it doesn't require specialized training, experience, or tremendous talent to master. Most of us build upon our experience in an "entry level" job by moving on to better and better jobs, once we've gained the experience and training afforded us by the previous job. Those who complain about not "making enough" in an entry level job either don't understand how to build a career, or feel that they are somehow "entitled" to a larger income simply because they see other folks making more. Looking forward to your Leftist rant, Paul. |
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"Jim" wrote in message ... FUnny thing -- I surprised myself even. Posted this on a local board, but changed Joe to Peter who is a local Konservative type. Got his goat good, but then deceided to do some Google research. It appears that Liberals ARE behind everything Joe/Peter likes in the world Peter gets up at 6:00am to prepare his morning coffee. He fills his pot full of good clean drinking water because some liberal fought for minimum water quality standards. The first coffee percolator---1865 (Lincoln, a Republican) The discovery of instant coffee---1901 (McKinle, a Republican) Maxwell House patents "good to the last drop"---1926 (Coolidge, a Republican) He takes his daily medication with his first swallow of coffee. His medications are safe to take because some liberal fought to insure their safety and effectiveness as advertised. The top 5 mostly widely prescibed drugs are vicodin, lipitor, premarin, atenolol, and sythroid. Since Vicodin isn't a daily medication...and since Peter is a man and wouldn't take premarin, we can assume he's on lipitor, atenolol, and/or synthroid... which are all "daily" meds. Lipitor was patented in 1987 (Reagan, Republican) Atenolol was patented in 1991 (Bush, Republican) Synthroid was patented in 1987 (Reagan, Republican) Peter dresses, walks outside and takes a deep breath. The air he breathes is clean because some tree hugging liberal fought for laws to stop industries from polluting our air. Same as Above He walks to the subway station for his government subsidized ride to work; it saves him considerable money in parking and transportation fees. You see, some liberal fought for affordable public transportation, which gives everyone the opportunity to be a contributor. Would a conservative subsidize something like transportation? Ah, yes...the subway. First in operation in 1904 (Teddy Roosevelt, Republican) Peter begins his work day; he has a good job with excellent pay, medical benefits, retirement, paid holidays and vacation because some liberal union members fought and died for these working standards. Peter's employer pays these standards because Peter's employer doesn't want his employees to call the union. See national Labor Relations act above If Peter is hurt on the job or becomes unemployed he'll get a workers compensation or unemployment check because some liberal didn't think he should loose his home because of his temporary misfortune. Its noon time, Peter needs to make a Bank Deposit so he can pay some bills. Peter's deposit is federally insured by the FSLIC because some liberal wanted to protect Peter's money from unscrupulous bankers who ruined the banking system before the depression. Part of the "New Deal" That damned Liberal FDR again Peter has to pay his Fannie Mae underwritten Mortgage and his below market federal student loan because some stupid liberal decided that Peter and the government would be better off if he was educated and earned more money over his life-time. It wasn't until 1934 that mortgages, as they work now, came into being. The Federal Housing Administration (FHA) played a critical role. In order to help pull the country out of its economic depression, the FHA initiated a new type of mortgage aimed at the folks who couldn't get mortgages under the existing programs. At that time, only four in 10 households owned homes. Mortgage loan terms were limited to 50 percent of the property's market value, and the repayment schedule was spread over three to five years and ended with a balloon payment. An 80 percent loan at that time meant your down payment was 80 percent -- not the amount you financed! With loan terms like that, it's no wonder that most Americans were renters. FHA started a program that lowered the down payment requirements. They set up programs that offered 80 percent loan-to-value (LTV), 90 percent LTV, and higher. This forced commercial banks and lenders to do the same, creating many more opportunities for average Americans to own homes. Liberal FDR yet again Peter is home from work, he plans to visit his father this evening at his farm home in the country. He gets in his car for the drive to dads; his car is among the safest in the world because some liberal fought for car safety standards. His car? Ford developed the Model T in 1907 (Teddy Roosevelt, Republican) |
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