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jim-- July 26th 04 02:00 PM

A day in the life of...
 

"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On 26 Jul 2004 03:57:36 -0700, (basskisser) wrote:

"MEN" wrote in message

...
"Stanley Barthfarkle" wrote in message
. ..
Better yet, why don't the pickers get together, save some money, buy

some
land, plant some trees, and start their own orchard? Oh yes, I guess

it's
because then they would be the "evil" bosses, who provide jobs for

the
poor
"little people".

Because they are all here illegally, and so far, we're not STUPID

enough to
give them federal loans. But soon we will be, if KERRY gets in, and

then
we'll FORGIVE the loans as well. Dumb and dumber...Kerry and Edwards.
Actually, Kerry worked for his money, chasing ambulances.


Ah, so it's quite all right for the republican orchard owners to
exploit the workers, but your just dumb if you want them to have any
rights or priveleges, huh?


It's "you're just dumb...". Isn't Harry reviewing your posts, b'asskisser?

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!


Unfrickenbelievable.



NOYB July 26th 04 04:27 PM

A day in the life of...
 

"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"NOYB" wrote in message news:fqednRBmWe-_pZncRVn-
And Joe has Republican capitalists to thank for providing everything

that he
consumed in his day. Without them, he'd have picked his own fruits and
berries when he got up that morning...that is, if he survived without

the
medications he needs.


That's ignorant. There were purveyors of goods thousands of years
before there were "Republican capitalists".


Yes, and they were "capitalists", but just not in name. They would be
Republicans if there were alive today.




Paul Schilter July 27th 04 12:57 AM

A day in the life of...
 
Stanley,
Probably because they don't have the resources to take the average five
years of loss before a startup business becomes profitable. Most have to eat
in the mean time and have a hard time affording that.
Paul

"Stanley Barthfarkle" wrote in message
. ..
Better yet, why don't the pickers get together, save some money, buy some
land, plant some trees, and start their own orchard? Oh yes, I guess it's
because then they would be the "evil" bosses, who provide jobs for the

poor
"little people".


"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 25 Jul 2004 22:43:04 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

The Republicans own the orchards
and exploit the pickers.


===============================

So why don't the pickers find another occupation or strike for higher
wages?






Paul Schilter July 27th 04 12:59 AM

A day in the life of...
 
Harry,
Political post as usual, but a very good one. *****
Paul

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
A Day in the Life of Joe Middle-Class Republican

By John Gray Cincinnati, Ohio - - July - 2004



Joe gets up at 6:00am to prepare his morning coffee. He fills his pot
full of good clean drinking water because some liberal fought for
minimum water quality standards. He takes his daily medication with his
first swallow of coffee. His medications are safe to take because some
liberal fought to insure their safety and work as advertised.

All but $10.00 of his medications are paid for by his employers medical
plan because some liberal union workers fought their employers for paid
medical insurance, now Joe gets it too. He prepares his morning
breakfast, bacon and eggs this day. Joe’s bacon is safe to eat because
some liberal fought for laws to regulate the meat packing industry.

Joe takes his morning shower reaching for his shampoo; His bottle is
properly labeled with every ingredient and the amount of its contents
because some liberal fought for his right to know what he was putting on
his body and how much it contained. Joe dresses, walks outside and takes
a deep breath. The air he breathes is clean because some tree hugging
liberal fought for laws to stop industries from polluting our air. He
walks to the subway station for his government subsidized ride to work;
it saves him considerable money in parking and transportation fees. You
see, some liberal fought for affordable public transportation, which
gives everyone the opportunity to be a contributor.

Joe begins his work day; he has a good job with excellent pay, medicals
benefits, retirement, paid holidays and vacation because some liberal
union members fought and died for these working standards. Joe’s
employer pays these standards because Joe’s employer doesn’t want his
employees to call the union. If Joe is hurt on the job or becomes
unemployed he’ll get a worker compensation or unemployment check because
some liberal didn’t think he should loose his home because of his
temporary misfortune.

Its noon time, Joe needs to make a Bank Deposit so he can pay some
bills. Joe’s deposit is federally insured by the FSLIC because some
liberal wanted to protect Joe’s money from unscrupulous bankers who
ruined the banking system before the depression.

Joe has to pay his Fannie Mae underwritten Mortgage and his below market
federal student loan because some stupid liberal decided that Joe and
the government would be better off if he was educated and earned more
money over his life-time.

Joe is home from work, he plans to visit his father this evening at his
farm home in the country. He gets in his car for the drive to dads; his
car is among the safest in the world because some liberal fought for car
safety standards. He arrives at his boyhood home. He was the third
generation to live in the house financed by Farmers Home Administration
because bankers didn’t want to make rural loans. The house didn’t have
electric until some big government liberal stuck his nose where it
didn’t belong and demanded rural electrification. (Those rural
Republican’s would still be sitting in the dark)

He is happy to see his dad who is now retired. His dad lives on Social
Security and his union pension because some liberal made sure he could
take care of himself so Joe wouldn’t have to. After his visit with dad
he gets back in his car for the ride home.
He turns on a radio talk show, the host’s keeps saying that liberals are
bad and conservatives are good. (He doesn’t tell Joe that his beloved
Republicans have fought against every protection and benefit Joe enjoys
throughout his day) Joe agrees, “We don’t need those big government
liberals ruining our lives; after all, I’m a self made man who believes
everyone should take care of themselves, just like I have”.

--
A vote for Nader is a vote for Bush;
A vote for Bush is a vote for Apocalypse.




Stanley Barthfarkle July 27th 04 03:32 PM

A day in the life of...
 
Probably because they don't have the resources to take the average
five
years of loss before a startup business becomes profitable. Most have to

eat
in the mean time and have a hard time affording that.
Paul


I see, so the folks who manage to save enough money to cover their startup
costs; who work 18 hour days to get the business going; who sacrifice their
time and social life for years; who risk all that they own over lawsuits or
market trends- these folks don't deserve to make a healthy profit from their
business? How about if that handsome profit goes to purchase new equipment
(boosting the manufacturing sector), hire more workers (providing income for
those who are willing to work), and boost their own income (raising the tax
base and local cash flow, "churning" the money to support other businesses
and employees) ?

It's an interesting view that you have, Paul. Most of us who were born with
nothing end up with whatever we've earned. No one owes us anything. Nada.
Not a nickel. The only person that I was taught to count on is myself, and I
have a very trustworthy partner to that end.


This is the recipe for success in business:

--The drive to succeed.
--The spiritual or moral fortitude to be self-reliant.
--The spiritual or moral fortitude to be charitable once successful. (and
not by force or taxation- by choice) Can you say "Carnegie Foundation" or
"Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation", etc? I knew that you could...
--The courage to take risks- both monetary and personal.
--The vision to realize what you're good at, and surround yourself with
people who are better at it.
--The perseverence to weather hard times, long hours, and personal
sacrifices to help build a business that not only supports you and your
family, but also provides jobs for your workers, taxes to support local
government, and benefits your suppliers (and their employees, etc, etc) and
society as a whole.


There is a reason why an "entry level" job doesn't pay much- because it
doesn't require specialized training, experience, or tremendous talent to
master. Most of us build upon our experience in an "entry level" job by
moving on to better and better jobs, once we've gained the experience and
training afforded us by the previous job. Those who complain about not
"making enough" in an entry level job either don't understand how to build a
career, or feel that they are somehow "entitled" to a larger income simply
because they see other folks making more.


Looking forward to your Leftist rant, Paul.



Paul Schilter July 28th 04 12:20 AM

A day in the life of...
 
Stanley,
My leftist rant? For starters I never disputed or stated otherwise from
what you posted below. I pretty much agree with what you posted. I did
answer, in my opinion, why the fruit pickers couldn't start their own
business. Why do you so venomously disagree with my answer? Workers wouldn't
be anything without employers nor would employers be anything without
employees (unless you're a one person operation). We should give as much
help, as we can afford, to give the opportunity for all employees to become
employers for just the reasons you state.
Paul

"Stanley Barthfarkle" wrote in message
. ..
Probably because they don't have the resources to take the average

five
years of loss before a startup business becomes profitable. Most have to

eat
in the mean time and have a hard time affording that.
Paul


I see, so the folks who manage to save enough money to cover their startup
costs; who work 18 hour days to get the business going; who sacrifice

their
time and social life for years; who risk all that they own over lawsuits

or
market trends- these folks don't deserve to make a healthy profit from

their
business? How about if that handsome profit goes to purchase new equipment
(boosting the manufacturing sector), hire more workers (providing income

for
those who are willing to work), and boost their own income (raising the

tax
base and local cash flow, "churning" the money to support other businesses
and employees) ?

It's an interesting view that you have, Paul. Most of us who were born

with
nothing end up with whatever we've earned. No one owes us anything. Nada.
Not a nickel. The only person that I was taught to count on is myself, and

I
have a very trustworthy partner to that end.


This is the recipe for success in business:

--The drive to succeed.
--The spiritual or moral fortitude to be self-reliant.
--The spiritual or moral fortitude to be charitable once successful. (and
not by force or taxation- by choice) Can you say "Carnegie Foundation" or
"Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation", etc? I knew that you could...
--The courage to take risks- both monetary and personal.
--The vision to realize what you're good at, and surround yourself with
people who are better at it.
--The perseverence to weather hard times, long hours, and personal
sacrifices to help build a business that not only supports you and your
family, but also provides jobs for your workers, taxes to support local
government, and benefits your suppliers (and their employees, etc, etc)

and
society as a whole.


There is a reason why an "entry level" job doesn't pay much- because it
doesn't require specialized training, experience, or tremendous talent to
master. Most of us build upon our experience in an "entry level" job by
moving on to better and better jobs, once we've gained the experience and
training afforded us by the previous job. Those who complain about not
"making enough" in an entry level job either don't understand how to build

a
career, or feel that they are somehow "entitled" to a larger income simply
because they see other folks making more.


Looking forward to your Leftist rant, Paul.





NOYB July 30th 04 01:06 AM

A day in the life of...History
 

"Jim" wrote in message
...
FUnny thing -- I surprised myself even. Posted this on a local board, but
changed Joe to Peter who is a
local Konservative type. Got his goat good, but then deceided to do some
Google research.

It appears that Liberals ARE behind everything Joe/Peter likes in the

world

Peter gets up at 6:00am to prepare his morning coffee. He fills his pot

full
of good clean drinking water because some liberal fought for minimum water
quality standards.


The first coffee percolator---1865 (Lincoln, a Republican)
The discovery of instant coffee---1901 (McKinle, a Republican)
Maxwell House patents "good to the last drop"---1926 (Coolidge, a
Republican)




He takes his daily medication with his first swallow of coffee. His
medications are safe to take because some liberal fought to insure their
safety and effectiveness as advertised.


The top 5 mostly widely prescibed drugs are vicodin, lipitor, premarin,
atenolol,
and sythroid. Since Vicodin isn't a daily medication...and since Peter is a
man and
wouldn't take premarin, we can assume he's on lipitor, atenolol, and/or
synthroid...
which are all "daily" meds.

Lipitor was patented in 1987 (Reagan, Republican)
Atenolol was patented in 1991 (Bush, Republican)
Synthroid was patented in 1987 (Reagan, Republican)


Peter dresses, walks outside and takes a deep breath. The air he breathes

is
clean because some tree hugging liberal fought for laws to stop industries
from polluting our air.

Same as Above


He walks to the subway station for his government subsidized ride to work;
it saves him considerable money in parking and transportation fees. You

see,
some liberal fought for affordable public transportation, which gives
everyone the opportunity to be a contributor.

Would a conservative subsidize something like transportation?


Ah, yes...the subway. First in operation in 1904 (Teddy Roosevelt,
Republican)






Peter begins his work day; he has a good job with excellent pay, medical
benefits, retirement, paid holidays and vacation because some liberal

union
members fought and died for these working standards. Peter's employer pays
these standards because Peter's employer doesn't want his employees to

call
the union.

See national Labor Relations act above


If Peter is hurt on the job or becomes unemployed he'll get a workers
compensation or unemployment check because some liberal didn't think he
should loose his home because of his temporary misfortune.


Its noon time, Peter needs to make a Bank Deposit so he can pay some

bills.
Peter's deposit is federally insured by the FSLIC because some liberal
wanted to protect Peter's money from unscrupulous bankers who ruined the
banking system before the depression.





Part of the "New Deal" That damned Liberal FDR again


Peter has to pay his Fannie Mae underwritten Mortgage and his below market
federal student loan because some stupid liberal decided that Peter and

the
government would be better off if he was educated and earned more money

over
his life-time.

It wasn't until 1934 that mortgages, as they work now, came into being.

The
Federal Housing Administration (FHA) played a critical role. In order to
help pull the country out of its economic depression, the FHA initiated a
new type of mortgage aimed at the folks who couldn't get mortgages under

the
existing programs. At that time, only four in 10 households owned homes.
Mortgage loan terms were limited to 50 percent of the property's market
value, and the repayment schedule was spread over three to five years and
ended with a balloon payment. An 80 percent loan at that time meant your
down payment was 80 percent -- not the amount you financed! With loan

terms
like that, it's no wonder that most Americans were renters.

FHA started a program that lowered the down payment requirements. They set
up programs that offered 80 percent loan-to-value (LTV), 90 percent LTV,

and
higher. This forced commercial banks and lenders to do the same, creating
many more opportunities for average Americans to own homes.



Liberal FDR yet again


Peter is home from work, he plans to visit his father this evening at his
farm home in the country. He gets in his car for the drive to dads; his

car
is among the safest in the world because some liberal fought for car

safety
standards.


His car? Ford developed the Model T in 1907 (Teddy Roosevelt, Republican)






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