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[email protected] March 28th 17 01:05 AM

Tiki bar on wheels
 
My project today was making a little trailer to tow behind my lawn
tractor or golf cart. So far I am $10.60 in it for the wheels on sale
at Northern (4.99)
The metal is mostly from scavenged bed frames and stuff I had laying
around. I still need to score a hitch and some plywood for the deck.

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/lil%20trailer.jpg

Bill[_12_] March 28th 17 01:34 AM

Tiki bar on wheels
 
wrote:
My project today was making a little trailer to tow behind my lawn
tractor or golf cart. So far I am $10.60 in it for the wheels on sale
at Northern (4.99)
The metal is mostly from scavenged bed frames and stuff I had laying
around. I still need to score a hitch and some plywood for the deck.

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/lil%20trailer.jpg


What welder(s) do you have/use?


[email protected] March 28th 17 03:16 AM

Tiki bar on wheels
 
On Tue, 28 Mar 2017 00:34:47 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

wrote:
My project today was making a little trailer to tow behind my lawn
tractor or golf cart. So far I am $10.60 in it for the wheels on sale
at Northern (4.99)
The metal is mostly from scavenged bed frames and stuff I had laying
around. I still need to score a hitch and some plywood for the deck.

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/lil%20trailer.jpg


What welder(s) do you have/use?


I did that with my 45 year old buzz box. I have a MIG but I have a
problem with the wire feed and I did not feel like screwing with it
today. After looking at some of those welds, I really need to fix the
MIG ;-)
It is my normal pattern with that thing. I start out screwing them up
bad and by the time I get in the groove and making good beads, I am
done. I should have welded the bottom first. I was really designing as
I was going. I didn't even know how big it was going to be until I
started cutting up the frames and figuring out what was useful.
The caster mounts look like they will make great pins to go into
sockets in the frame for removable side boards. They are a perfect fit
in swaged steel 1/2" EMT connectors. I doubt I am going to try to weld
them on with a buzz box tho unless I get different rods.

Tim March 28th 17 03:30 AM

Tiki bar on wheels
 
Looks good. For myself I'd add an extra support through the frame (front to back) and would have moved the axle a leedle further aft for a tad bit more tongue weight. But otherwise. It's looking good!

Bill[_12_] March 28th 17 04:01 AM

Tiki bar on wheels
 
wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2017 00:34:47 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

wrote:
My project today was making a little trailer to tow behind my lawn
tractor or golf cart. So far I am $10.60 in it for the wheels on sale
at Northern (4.99)
The metal is mostly from scavenged bed frames and stuff I had laying
around. I still need to score a hitch and some plywood for the deck.

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/lil%20trailer.jpg


What welder(s) do you have/use?


I did that with my 45 year old buzz box. I have a MIG but I have a
problem with the wire feed and I did not feel like screwing with it
today. After looking at some of those welds, I really need to fix the
MIG ;-)
It is my normal pattern with that thing. I start out screwing them up
bad and by the time I get in the groove and making good beads, I am
done. I should have welded the bottom first. I was really designing as
I was going. I didn't even know how big it was going to be until I
started cutting up the frames and figuring out what was useful.
The caster mounts look like they will make great pins to go into
sockets in the frame for removable side boards. They are a perfect fit
in swaged steel 1/2" EMT connectors. I doubt I am going to try to weld
them on with a buzz box tho unless I get different rods.


Those old boxes still work. I have an Airco welder I bought in 1966.
Still works great. My stainless welding is always with the stick welder.
The Airco is nice as it is a transformer box, and infinitely variable on
the current as opposed to the Welders with taps. My MIG is a Lincoln 180C
which works well also. Also has a spool gun and can do aluminum with it.


[email protected] March 28th 17 04:55 AM

Tiki bar on wheels
 
On Mon, 27 Mar 2017 19:30:28 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

Looks good. For myself I'd add an extra support through the frame (front to back) and would have moved the axle a leedle further aft for a tad bit more tongue weight. But otherwise. It's looking good!


This is just something I am pulling around with the lawn mower so I am
not really too worried about tongue weight. I doubt it will start
swaying at 5 MPH. I may still end up moving the axle back a little
since I want to raise it up a bit for better ground clearance. I have
some 4x4 Azek I am thinking about putting in as a spacer.
Once I drop a piece of 3/4" plywood in there it will be plenty stiff
enough for anything I am likely to be hauling around.
I really do not want to make this thing too heavy because I plan to
hang it on the garage wall when I am not using it. I need to be able
to pick it up. Right now I doubt it is more than 30-40 pounds.

[email protected] March 28th 17 05:07 AM

Tiki bar on wheels
 
On Tue, 28 Mar 2017 03:01:52 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

wrote:



I did that with my 45 year old buzz box. I have a MIG but I have a
problem with the wire feed and I did not feel like screwing with it
today. After looking at some of those welds, I really need to fix the
MIG ;-)
It is my normal pattern with that thing. I start out screwing them up
bad and by the time I get in the groove and making good beads, I am
done. I should have welded the bottom first. I was really designing as
I was going. I didn't even know how big it was going to be until I
started cutting up the frames and figuring out what was useful.
The caster mounts look like they will make great pins to go into
sockets in the frame for removable side boards. They are a perfect fit
in swaged steel 1/2" EMT connectors. I doubt I am going to try to weld
them on with a buzz box tho unless I get different rods.


Those old boxes still work. I have an Airco welder I bought in 1966.
Still works great. My stainless welding is always with the stick welder.
The Airco is nice as it is a transformer box, and infinitely variable on
the current as opposed to the Welders with taps. My MIG is a Lincoln 180C
which works well also. Also has a spool gun and can do aluminum with it.


I have a baby Lincoln (100) that someone pretty much gave me. The wire
is jammed in the gun and I never really tried to fix it. I keep saying
I am just going to buy the gun and lead that uses gas but that costs
as much as the welder is worth. I guess I should just try to figure
out why the wire is jammed in there.
I may just braze the EMT connectors on. They are so thin, I doubt I
can do it with the stick machine and definitely not with the big assed
rods I have right now. When I was working I used to be right near the
welding store a lot and it was easy to pick up stuff like that but I
seldom go up town these days. My supplies are running pretty low. ;-)

Tim March 28th 17 01:34 PM

Tiki bar on wheels
 
On Monday, March 27, 2017 at 10:55:55 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Mon, 27 Mar 2017 19:30:28 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

Looks good. For myself I'd add an extra support through the frame (front to back) and would have moved the axle a leedle further aft for a tad bit more tongue weight. But otherwise. It's looking good!


This is just something I am pulling around with the lawn mower so I am
not really too worried about tongue weight. I doubt it will start
swaying at 5 MPH. I may still end up moving the axle back a little
since I want to raise it up a bit for better ground clearance. I have
some 4x4 Azek I am thinking about putting in as a spacer.
Once I drop a piece of 3/4" plywood in there it will be plenty stiff
enough for anything I am likely to be hauling around.
I really do not want to make this thing too heavy because I plan to
hang it on the garage wall when I am not using it. I need to be able
to peing made out of bed rails I kneswick it up. Right now I doubt it is more than 30-40 pounds.


Being made out of bed rails i knew it wasn't meant to be heavy hauler, but you might load it up much more than you intend.

BTW, there's nothing wrong with an old stick welder. My AC lincoln "buzz box" has served me well. DC is better but this does the job for me just fine.

Bill[_12_] March 28th 17 04:03 PM

Tiki bar on wheels
 
wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2017 03:01:52 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

wrote:



I did that with my 45 year old buzz box. I have a MIG but I have a
problem with the wire feed and I did not feel like screwing with it
today. After looking at some of those welds, I really need to fix the
MIG ;-)
It is my normal pattern with that thing. I start out screwing them up
bad and by the time I get in the groove and making good beads, I am
done. I should have welded the bottom first. I was really designing as
I was going. I didn't even know how big it was going to be until I
started cutting up the frames and figuring out what was useful.
The caster mounts look like they will make great pins to go into
sockets in the frame for removable side boards. They are a perfect fit
in swaged steel 1/2" EMT connectors. I doubt I am going to try to weld
them on with a buzz box tho unless I get different rods.


Those old boxes still work. I have an Airco welder I bought in 1966.
Still works great. My stainless welding is always with the stick welder.
The Airco is nice as it is a transformer box, and infinitely variable on
the current as opposed to the Welders with taps. My MIG is a Lincoln 180C
which works well also. Also has a spool gun and can do aluminum with it.


I have a baby Lincoln (100) that someone pretty much gave me. The wire
is jammed in the gun and I never really tried to fix it. I keep saying
I am just going to buy the gun and lead that uses gas but that costs
as much as the welder is worth. I guess I should just try to figure
out why the wire is jammed in there.
I may just braze the EMT connectors on. They are so thin, I doubt I
can do it with the stick machine and definitely not with the big assed
rods I have right now. When I was working I used to be right near the
welding store a lot and it was easy to pick up stuff like that but I
seldom go up town these days. My supplies are running pretty low. ;-)


Replace the copper nipple where the wire comes through. Is the normal jam
point at least on my welder. Gets slag or melted. They are cheap. Buck
or so.


[email protected] March 28th 17 04:51 PM

Tiki bar on wheels
 
On Tue, 28 Mar 2017 05:34:49 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Monday, March 27, 2017 at 10:55:55 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Mon, 27 Mar 2017 19:30:28 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

Looks good. For myself I'd add an extra support through the frame (front to back) and would have moved the axle a leedle further aft for a tad bit more tongue weight. But otherwise. It's looking good!


This is just something I am pulling around with the lawn mower so I am
not really too worried about tongue weight. I doubt it will start
swaying at 5 MPH. I may still end up moving the axle back a little
since I want to raise it up a bit for better ground clearance. I have
some 4x4 Azek I am thinking about putting in as a spacer.
Once I drop a piece of 3/4" plywood in there it will be plenty stiff
enough for anything I am likely to be hauling around.
I really do not want to make this thing too heavy because I plan to
hang it on the garage wall when I am not using it. I need to be able
to peing made out of bed rails I kneswick it up. Right now I doubt it is more than 30-40 pounds.


Being made out of bed rails i knew it wasn't meant to be heavy hauler, but you might load it up much more than you intend.

BTW, there's nothing wrong with an old stick welder. My AC lincoln "buzz box" has served me well. DC is better but this does the job for me just fine.


The tires are rated at 600# (300x2) but I doubt I will ever load it
that much unless I am moving concrete.
I can do good work with my buzz box but I need to warm up a little
since I don't weld that often. Even my union welder buddy struggled
with it the first time he borrowed it to make some fireplace doors for
another friend. He is a MIG and TIG guy. He said the only stick
welding he did was with a DC machine and that was rare. This machine
has been around tho. The first thing I did when I bought it was cut
the 6-50 plug off and put on a 3 prong dryer plug so it will work just
about anywhere. I also have 25' and a 50' 240/30a extension cords. The
25' is an RV cord. The 50' is 6ga SO cord (that black rubber stuff you
see at a carnival) scavenged from a computer room when the NEC
outlawed SO under the raised floor. I keep that one on a hose reel

[email protected] March 28th 17 05:13 PM

Tiki bar on wheels
 
On Tue, 28 Mar 2017 15:03:15 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2017 03:01:52 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

wrote:



I did that with my 45 year old buzz box. I have a MIG but I have a
problem with the wire feed and I did not feel like screwing with it
today. After looking at some of those welds, I really need to fix the
MIG ;-)
It is my normal pattern with that thing. I start out screwing them up
bad and by the time I get in the groove and making good beads, I am
done. I should have welded the bottom first. I was really designing as
I was going. I didn't even know how big it was going to be until I
started cutting up the frames and figuring out what was useful.
The caster mounts look like they will make great pins to go into
sockets in the frame for removable side boards. They are a perfect fit
in swaged steel 1/2" EMT connectors. I doubt I am going to try to weld
them on with a buzz box tho unless I get different rods.


Those old boxes still work. I have an Airco welder I bought in 1966.
Still works great. My stainless welding is always with the stick welder.
The Airco is nice as it is a transformer box, and infinitely variable on
the current as opposed to the Welders with taps. My MIG is a Lincoln 180C
which works well also. Also has a spool gun and can do aluminum with it.


I have a baby Lincoln (100) that someone pretty much gave me. The wire
is jammed in the gun and I never really tried to fix it. I keep saying
I am just going to buy the gun and lead that uses gas but that costs
as much as the welder is worth. I guess I should just try to figure
out why the wire is jammed in there.
I may just braze the EMT connectors on. They are so thin, I doubt I
can do it with the stick machine and definitely not with the big assed
rods I have right now. When I was working I used to be right near the
welding store a lot and it was easy to pick up stuff like that but I
seldom go up town these days. My supplies are running pretty low. ;-)


Replace the copper nipple where the wire comes through. Is the normal jam
point at least on my welder. Gets slag or melted. They are cheap. Buck
or so.


I will look into that. I agree that is probably where the problem is
but it seems to be stuck/welded on. I will cut the wire at the input
of the wand cable and try again.

Mr. Luddite March 28th 17 05:19 PM

Tiki bar on wheels
 
On 3/28/2017 11:37 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2017 08:17:32 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

Wrote in message:
My project today was making a little trailer to tow behind my lawn
tractor or golf cart. So far I am $10.60 in it for the wheels on sale
at Northern (4.99)
The metal is mostly from scavenged bed frames and stuff I had laying
around. I still need to score a hitch and some plywood for the deck.

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/lil%20trailer.jpg


I started my Harbor Freight folding trailer with 3/4 marine grade.
Ended up using 1/2 due to weight and folding problems. Folded,
its 4x4 which is what yours looks to be.
You got me thinking. How would you attach a hitch to a Club Car?
Do you think the Club Car could handle the weight, 300# +
cargo?


I pull my boat trailer around the yard with my CC all the time. I am
sure it weighs more than 300#. On flat pavement I even move the boat
on the trailer occasionally. I would not try it on a ramp tho ;-)
This is the hitch on my CC and it was really easy. I just needed a
1/8" spacer to make a regular hitch bracket work in that hole in the
back



My wife used to have a motorcycle trailer that she used to haul her
gardening stuff around in. She towed it using her golf cart with no
problems at all. I am sure the total weight of the trailer with all the
potting soil, tools, water containers, etc. must have been 300 lbs or
more.


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