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Alex[_10_] March 4th 17 02:25 AM

Yo Harry...sshhh...
 
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/2/17 8:15 PM, Alex wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/2/17 4:19 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Thu, 2 Mar 2017 11:50:21 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

This is for the precision challenged I think these guys are the only
ones that double label for Aito *AND* ACP
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/17...l-metal-jacket



But, it's what's written on the cartridge that counts!

http://image.sportsmansguide.com/adi.../207427_ts.jpg




You've heard of Smith & Wesson, right, ****-for-brains?

That company has references to .45 ACP on many of its web pages. You
think some semi-retarded right-wing assholes here know more than S&W
about firearms?

Smith & Wesson:

http://tinyurl.com/h7kaykc

I couldn't find it and my browser yielded no results.

http://tinyurl.com/hjxogp2

Revolvers. No .45 ACP on that page either.



Click on caliber at the top and you'll see .45 ACP and a bunch of
revolvers that shoot it. Here's one, identified as a .45 ACP revolver:

http://tinyurl.com/hkscslp



A *revolver* identified as an Automatic Colt *Pistol*? Interesting and
also bad marketing.

Tim March 4th 17 02:29 AM

Yo Harry...sshhh...
 
On Friday, March 3, 2017 at 8:25:42 PM UTC-6, Alex wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/2/17 8:15 PM, Alex wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/2/17 4:19 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Thu, 2 Mar 2017 11:50:21 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

This is for the precision challenged I think these guys are the only
ones that double label for Aito *AND* ACP
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/17...l-metal-jacket



But, it's what's written on the cartridge that counts!

http://image.sportsmansguide.com/adi.../207427_ts.jpg




You've heard of Smith & Wesson, right, ****-for-brains?

That company has references to .45 ACP on many of its web pages. You
think some semi-retarded right-wing assholes here know more than S&W
about firearms?

Smith & Wesson:

http://tinyurl.com/h7kaykc
I couldn't find it and my browser yielded no results.

http://tinyurl.com/hjxogp2
Revolvers. No .45 ACP on that page either.



Click on caliber at the top and you'll see .45 ACP and a bunch of
revolvers that shoot it. Here's one, identified as a .45 ACP revolver:

http://tinyurl.com/hkscslp



A *revolver* identified as an Automatic Colt *Pistol*? Interesting and
also bad marketing.


You noticed that too?

Alex[_10_] March 4th 17 02:34 AM

Yo Harry...sshhh...
 
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/3/17 7:32 AM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Thu, 2 Mar 2017 19:12:03 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 3/2/17 6:46 PM, Bill wrote:
Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Thu, 2 Mar 2017 16:53:00 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 3/2/17 4:51 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Thu, 2 Mar 2017 16:36:47 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 3/2/17 4:19 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Thu, 2 Mar 2017 11:50:21 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

This is for the precision challenged I think these guys are
the only
ones that double label for Aito *AND* ACP
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/17...l-metal-jacket


But, it's what's written on the cartridge that counts!

http://image.sportsmansguide.com/adi.../207427_ts.jpg




You've heard of Smith & Wesson, right, ****-for-brains?

That company has references to .45 ACP on many of its web
pages. You
think some semi-retarded right-wing assholes here know more
than S&W
about firearms?

Smith & Wesson:

http://tinyurl.com/h7kaykc

http://tinyurl.com/hjxogp2

http://tinyurl.com/jqf2o6r

They are either referring to the gun or they, like you, are being
imprecise with the language.

The cartridge is rightfully called '.45 Auto'. Find one .45
cartridge
with '.45 ACP' on the base.

Or, you could just gracefully bow out.

Also, from your link:


Specifications
SKU: 11526
Model: M&P®45 M2.0? Thumb Safety
Caliber: .45 AUTO
Capacity: 10+1
Barrel Length: 4.6" / 11.7 cm
Overall Length: 7.9"
Front Sight: Steel - White Dot
Rear Sight: Steel - White Two Dot
Action: Striker Fire
Grip: Polymer
Weight: 27.0 oz / 765.4g
Barrel Material: Stainless Steel - Armornite® Finish
Slide Material: Stainless Steel - Armornite® Finish
Frame Material: Polymer
Purpose: Home Protection, Personal Protection

Note 'Caliber: .45 AUTO'. Maybe you missed that. I didn't check
the rest of your links.

So far, you're batting about a zero.

Tell us about 'Digital Desire' instead.


I am sure S&W knows a lot more about firearms nomenclature than
you and
your braindead buds here ever will.

Show me a cartridge with '.45 ACP' on the base.

I'm sure they are experts in firearm nomenclature. If they're talking
about the firearm, then '.45
ACP' could well be correct. Do they make .45 Auto ammunition? If
so, I'll
bet the cartridge base
says '.45 Auto'.

Now hush, Mr. Precise. You blew it.


Maybe 50 years plus ago, it said ACP, but the rest of the
manufacturers did
not want to mention Colt. Wasn't a30.06 originally a Winchester
30.06?


The fact is, the round has several names in common use by authoritative
vendors.


And those using '.45 ACP' are wrong. (You missed that part.) Besides
the two names under discussion,
what other names are in 'common use by authoritative vendors'?



Yawn.


IOW you can't name any. Nice job, writer. You are well known as a
liar. Why continue on that path?


Alex[_10_] March 4th 17 02:35 AM

Yo Harry...sshhh...
 
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/3/17 7:43 AM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Fri, 3 Mar 2017 07:40:16 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 3/3/17 7:32 AM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Thu, 2 Mar 2017 19:12:03 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 3/2/17 6:46 PM, Bill wrote:
Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Thu, 2 Mar 2017 16:53:00 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 3/2/17 4:51 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Thu, 2 Mar 2017 16:36:47 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 3/2/17 4:19 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Thu, 2 Mar 2017 11:50:21 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

This is for the precision challenged I think these guys are
the only
ones that double label for Aito *AND* ACP
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/17...l-metal-jacket


But, it's what's written on the cartridge that counts!

http://image.sportsmansguide.com/adi.../207427_ts.jpg




You've heard of Smith & Wesson, right, ****-for-brains?

That company has references to .45 ACP on many of its web
pages. You
think some semi-retarded right-wing assholes here know more
than S&W
about firearms?

Smith & Wesson:

http://tinyurl.com/h7kaykc

http://tinyurl.com/hjxogp2

http://tinyurl.com/jqf2o6r

They are either referring to the gun or they, like you, are being
imprecise with the language.

The cartridge is rightfully called '.45 Auto'. Find one .45
cartridge
with '.45 ACP' on the base.

Or, you could just gracefully bow out.

Also, from your link:


Specifications
SKU: 11526
Model: M&P®45 M2.0? Thumb Safety
Caliber: .45 AUTO
Capacity: 10+1
Barrel Length: 4.6" / 11.7 cm
Overall Length: 7.9"
Front Sight: Steel - White Dot
Rear Sight: Steel - White Two Dot
Action: Striker Fire
Grip: Polymer
Weight: 27.0 oz / 765.4g
Barrel Material: Stainless Steel - Armornite® Finish
Slide Material: Stainless Steel - Armornite® Finish
Frame Material: Polymer
Purpose: Home Protection, Personal Protection

Note 'Caliber: .45 AUTO'. Maybe you missed that. I didn't
check the rest of your links.

So far, you're batting about a zero.

Tell us about 'Digital Desire' instead.


I am sure S&W knows a lot more about firearms nomenclature than
you and
your braindead buds here ever will.

Show me a cartridge with '.45 ACP' on the base.

I'm sure they are experts in firearm nomenclature. If they're
talking
about the firearm, then '.45
ACP' could well be correct. Do they make .45 Auto ammunition? If
so, I'll
bet the cartridge base
says '.45 Auto'.

Now hush, Mr. Precise. You blew it.


Maybe 50 years plus ago, it said ACP, but the rest of the
manufacturers did
not want to mention Colt. Wasn't a30.06 originally a Winchester
30.06?


The fact is, the round has several names in common use by
authoritative
vendors.

And those using '.45 ACP' are wrong. (You missed that part.)
Besides the two names under discussion,
what other names are in 'common use by authoritative vendors'?



Yawn.


Your imprecision is amazing. No other names in 'common use' as you said?

Der Scheiße Meister at work!


Try to get a life, JohnnyMop. Posting insults here every day against
Don and me isn't a life.


Posting lies isn't a life, Krause.

Alex[_10_] March 4th 17 02:38 AM

Yo Harry...sshhh...
 
True North wrote:
You can be quite amusing, JohnnyMop.
Harry doesn't need any aid from me to deal with the likes of you and your bowl of turds.
I suppose the stench might get to him once in a while but a good gas mask might help there.


That was incredibly dumb!


Alex[_10_] March 4th 17 03:08 AM

Yo Harry...sshhh...
 
Tim wrote:
On Friday, March 3, 2017 at 8:25:42 PM UTC-6, Alex wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/2/17 8:15 PM, Alex wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/2/17 4:19 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Thu, 2 Mar 2017 11:50:21 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

This is for the precision challenged I think these guys are the only
ones that double label for Aito *AND* ACP
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/17...l-metal-jacket


But, it's what's written on the cartridge that counts!

http://image.sportsmansguide.com/adi.../207427_ts.jpg



You've heard of Smith & Wesson, right, ****-for-brains?

That company has references to .45 ACP on many of its web pages. You
think some semi-retarded right-wing assholes here know more than S&W
about firearms?

Smith & Wesson:

http://tinyurl.com/h7kaykc
I couldn't find it and my browser yielded no results.
http://tinyurl.com/hjxogp2
Revolvers. No .45 ACP on that page either.

Click on caliber at the top and you'll see .45 ACP and a bunch of
revolvers that shoot it. Here's one, identified as a .45 ACP revolver:

http://tinyurl.com/hkscslp


A *revolver* identified as an Automatic Colt *Pistol*? Interesting and
also bad marketing.

You noticed that too?


Sure, but Mr. Precise conveniently missed/ignored it.

Poco Deplorevole March 4th 17 12:08 PM

Yo Harry...sshhh...
 
On Fri, 3 Mar 2017 21:25:37 -0500, Alex wrote:

Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/2/17 8:15 PM, Alex wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/2/17 4:19 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Thu, 2 Mar 2017 11:50:21 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

This is for the precision challenged I think these guys are the only
ones that double label for Aito *AND* ACP
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/17...l-metal-jacket



But, it's what's written on the cartridge that counts!

http://image.sportsmansguide.com/adi.../207427_ts.jpg




You've heard of Smith & Wesson, right, ****-for-brains?

That company has references to .45 ACP on many of its web pages. You
think some semi-retarded right-wing assholes here know more than S&W
about firearms?

Smith & Wesson:

http://tinyurl.com/h7kaykc
I couldn't find it and my browser yielded no results.

http://tinyurl.com/hjxogp2
Revolvers. No .45 ACP on that page either.



Click on caliber at the top and you'll see .45 ACP and a bunch of
revolvers that shoot it. Here's one, identified as a .45 ACP revolver:

http://tinyurl.com/hkscslp



A *revolver* identified as an Automatic Colt *Pistol*? Interesting and
also bad marketing.


It's strange. For the semi-auto, the caliber is '.45 Auto'. But for their revolvers, the caliber is
'.45 ACP'.

I think they're wrong in both cases. (Oh ****, I can feel Harry's pulse quicken.) The 'caliber' of
both the semi-autos and the revolvers is '.45 caliber'. The cartridge they fire is the '.45 Auto'.

I'm thinking someone at S&W didn't like the idea of stamping '.45 Auto' on the side of a revolver,
so they went with '.45 ACP' for people, like Harry, who didn't know any better.

Poco Deplorevole March 4th 17 12:11 PM

Yo Harry...sshhh...
 
On Fri, 3 Mar 2017 21:34:24 -0500, Alex wrote:

Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/3/17 7:32 AM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Thu, 2 Mar 2017 19:12:03 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 3/2/17 6:46 PM, Bill wrote:
Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Thu, 2 Mar 2017 16:53:00 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 3/2/17 4:51 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Thu, 2 Mar 2017 16:36:47 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 3/2/17 4:19 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Thu, 2 Mar 2017 11:50:21 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

This is for the precision challenged I think these guys are
the only
ones that double label for Aito *AND* ACP
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/17...l-metal-jacket


But, it's what's written on the cartridge that counts!

http://image.sportsmansguide.com/adi.../207427_ts.jpg




You've heard of Smith & Wesson, right, ****-for-brains?

That company has references to .45 ACP on many of its web
pages. You
think some semi-retarded right-wing assholes here know more
than S&W
about firearms?

Smith & Wesson:

http://tinyurl.com/h7kaykc

http://tinyurl.com/hjxogp2

http://tinyurl.com/jqf2o6r

They are either referring to the gun or they, like you, are being
imprecise with the language.

The cartridge is rightfully called '.45 Auto'. Find one .45
cartridge
with '.45 ACP' on the base.

Or, you could just gracefully bow out.

Also, from your link:


Specifications
SKU: 11526
Model: M&P®45 M2.0? Thumb Safety
Caliber: .45 AUTO
Capacity: 10+1
Barrel Length: 4.6" / 11.7 cm
Overall Length: 7.9"
Front Sight: Steel - White Dot
Rear Sight: Steel - White Two Dot
Action: Striker Fire
Grip: Polymer
Weight: 27.0 oz / 765.4g
Barrel Material: Stainless Steel - Armornite® Finish
Slide Material: Stainless Steel - Armornite® Finish
Frame Material: Polymer
Purpose: Home Protection, Personal Protection

Note 'Caliber: .45 AUTO'. Maybe you missed that. I didn't check
the rest of your links.

So far, you're batting about a zero.

Tell us about 'Digital Desire' instead.


I am sure S&W knows a lot more about firearms nomenclature than
you and
your braindead buds here ever will.

Show me a cartridge with '.45 ACP' on the base.

I'm sure they are experts in firearm nomenclature. If they're talking
about the firearm, then '.45
ACP' could well be correct. Do they make .45 Auto ammunition? If
so, I'll
bet the cartridge base
says '.45 Auto'.

Now hush, Mr. Precise. You blew it.


Maybe 50 years plus ago, it said ACP, but the rest of the
manufacturers did
not want to mention Colt. Wasn't a30.06 originally a Winchester
30.06?


The fact is, the round has several names in common use by authoritative
vendors.

And those using '.45 ACP' are wrong. (You missed that part.) Besides
the two names under discussion,
what other names are in 'common use by authoritative vendors'?



Yawn.


IOW you can't name any. Nice job, writer. You are well known as a
liar. Why continue on that path?


'The proof is in the pudding.'

I keep waiting for him to show us the cartridge with .45 ACP stamped on the base, and to show us the
'other names in 'common use by authoritative vendors'

I reckon we shouldn't hold our breath.

Keyser Soze March 4th 17 12:29 PM

Yo Harry...sshhh...
 
On 3/4/17 7:08 AM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Fri, 3 Mar 2017 21:25:37 -0500, Alex wrote:

Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/2/17 8:15 PM, Alex wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/2/17 4:19 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Thu, 2 Mar 2017 11:50:21 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

This is for the precision challenged I think these guys are the only
ones that double label for Aito *AND* ACP
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/17...l-metal-jacket



But, it's what's written on the cartridge that counts!

http://image.sportsmansguide.com/adi.../207427_ts.jpg




You've heard of Smith & Wesson, right, ****-for-brains?

That company has references to .45 ACP on many of its web pages. You
think some semi-retarded right-wing assholes here know more than S&W
about firearms?

Smith & Wesson:

http://tinyurl.com/h7kaykc
I couldn't find it and my browser yielded no results.

http://tinyurl.com/hjxogp2
Revolvers. No .45 ACP on that page either.


Click on caliber at the top and you'll see .45 ACP and a bunch of
revolvers that shoot it. Here's one, identified as a .45 ACP revolver:

http://tinyurl.com/hkscslp



A *revolver* identified as an Automatic Colt *Pistol*? Interesting and
also bad marketing.


It's strange. For the semi-auto, the caliber is '.45 Auto'. But for their revolvers, the caliber is
'.45 ACP'.

I think they're wrong in both cases. (Oh ****, I can feel Harry's pulse quicken.) The 'caliber' of
both the semi-autos and the revolvers is '.45 caliber'. The cartridge they fire is the '.45 Auto'.

I'm thinking someone at S&W didn't like the idea of stamping '.45 Auto' on the side of a revolver,
so they went with '.45 ACP' for people, like Harry, who didn't know any better.


That you and Alex think you are "thinking" is a great bit of humor to
start off the day. Your flaccid argument isn't with me...it's with all
the vendors who sell products they describe as .45 ACP firearms and
ammo. Perhaps you should write to them and tell them the error of their
ways. I'm sure Smith and Wesson would love to hear from a pair of mooks
like you two.

It's always nice to put up a post that gets so many responses from you
mouthbreathers, although in this case it wasn't my intention.

I'm heading out to Virginia a little later this morning, fully armed and
ready to take on a slew of empty soda pop and beer cans, a dozen full
two liter soda pop bottles, and various other targets. Too bad you're
such a flaming asshole, Herring, because if you weren't, I'd ask you to
join us...a group of guys whose political beliefs are all over the
spectrum. One of the group legally owns a few full auto firearms, and
I'm sure he'll have one of them with him.

Tim March 4th 17 12:58 PM

Yo Harry...sshhh...
 
On Saturday, March 4, 2017 at 6:29:37 AM UTC-6, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/4/17 7:08 AM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Fri, 3 Mar 2017 21:25:37 -0500, Alex wrote:

Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/2/17 8:15 PM, Alex wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/2/17 4:19 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Thu, 2 Mar 2017 11:50:21 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

This is for the precision challenged I think these guys are the only
ones that double label for Aito *AND* ACP
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/17...l-metal-jacket



But, it's what's written on the cartridge that counts!

http://image.sportsmansguide.com/adi.../207427_ts.jpg




You've heard of Smith & Wesson, right, ****-for-brains?

That company has references to .45 ACP on many of its web pages. You
think some semi-retarded right-wing assholes here know more than S&W
about firearms?

Smith & Wesson:

http://tinyurl.com/h7kaykc
I couldn't find it and my browser yielded no results.

http://tinyurl.com/hjxogp2
Revolvers. No .45 ACP on that page either.


Click on caliber at the top and you'll see .45 ACP and a bunch of
revolvers that shoot it. Here's one, identified as a .45 ACP revolver:

http://tinyurl.com/hkscslp



A *revolver* identified as an Automatic Colt *Pistol*? Interesting and
also bad marketing.


It's strange. For the semi-auto, the caliber is '.45 Auto'. But for their revolvers, the caliber is
'.45 ACP'.

I think they're wrong in both cases. (Oh ****, I can feel Harry's pulse quicken.) The 'caliber' of
both the semi-autos and the revolvers is '.45 caliber'. The cartridge they fire is the '.45 Auto'.

I'm thinking someone at S&W didn't like the idea of stamping '.45 Auto' on the side of a revolver,
so they went with '.45 ACP' for people, like Harry, who didn't know any better.


That you and Alex think you are "thinking" is a great bit of humor to
start off the day. Your flaccid argument isn't with me...it's with all
the vendors who sell products they describe as .45 ACP firearms and
ammo. Perhaps you should write to them and tell them the error of their
ways. I'm sure Smith and Wesson would love to hear from a pair of mooks
like you two.

It's always nice to put up a post that gets so many responses from you
mouthbreathers, although in this case it wasn't my intention.

I'm heading out to Virginia a little later this morning, fully armed and
ready to take on a slew of empty soda pop and beer cans, a dozen full
two liter soda pop bottles, and various other targets. Too bad you're
such a flaming asshole, Herring, because if you weren't, I'd ask you to
join us...a group of guys whose political beliefs are all over the
spectrum. One of the group legally owns a few full auto firearms, and
I'm sure he'll have one of them with him.


Good luck and have fun Harry, and while your in Virginia don't forget to take advantage of those "out-of-trunk" gun dealers. That's where the real bargains are y'know..

Keyser Soze March 4th 17 01:06 PM

Yo Harry...sshhh...
 
On 3/4/17 7:58 AM, Tim wrote:
On Saturday, March 4, 2017 at 6:29:37 AM UTC-6, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/4/17 7:08 AM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Fri, 3 Mar 2017 21:25:37 -0500, Alex wrote:

Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/2/17 8:15 PM, Alex wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/2/17 4:19 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Thu, 2 Mar 2017 11:50:21 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

This is for the precision challenged I think these guys are the only
ones that double label for Aito *AND* ACP
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/17...l-metal-jacket



But, it's what's written on the cartridge that counts!

http://image.sportsmansguide.com/adi.../207427_ts.jpg




You've heard of Smith & Wesson, right, ****-for-brains?

That company has references to .45 ACP on many of its web pages. You
think some semi-retarded right-wing assholes here know more than S&W
about firearms?

Smith & Wesson:

http://tinyurl.com/h7kaykc
I couldn't find it and my browser yielded no results.

http://tinyurl.com/hjxogp2
Revolvers. No .45 ACP on that page either.


Click on caliber at the top and you'll see .45 ACP and a bunch of
revolvers that shoot it. Here's one, identified as a .45 ACP revolver:

http://tinyurl.com/hkscslp



A *revolver* identified as an Automatic Colt *Pistol*? Interesting and
also bad marketing.

It's strange. For the semi-auto, the caliber is '.45 Auto'. But for their revolvers, the caliber is
'.45 ACP'.

I think they're wrong in both cases. (Oh ****, I can feel Harry's pulse quicken.) The 'caliber' of
both the semi-autos and the revolvers is '.45 caliber'. The cartridge they fire is the '.45 Auto'.

I'm thinking someone at S&W didn't like the idea of stamping '.45 Auto' on the side of a revolver,
so they went with '.45 ACP' for people, like Harry, who didn't know any better.


That you and Alex think you are "thinking" is a great bit of humor to
start off the day. Your flaccid argument isn't with me...it's with all
the vendors who sell products they describe as .45 ACP firearms and
ammo. Perhaps you should write to them and tell them the error of their
ways. I'm sure Smith and Wesson would love to hear from a pair of mooks
like you two.

It's always nice to put up a post that gets so many responses from you
mouthbreathers, although in this case it wasn't my intention.

I'm heading out to Virginia a little later this morning, fully armed and
ready to take on a slew of empty soda pop and beer cans, a dozen full
two liter soda pop bottles, and various other targets. Too bad you're
such a flaming asshole, Herring, because if you weren't, I'd ask you to
join us...a group of guys whose political beliefs are all over the
spectrum. One of the group legally owns a few full auto firearms, and
I'm sure he'll have one of them with him.


Good luck and have fun Harry, and while your in Virginia don't forget to take advantage of those "out-of-trunk" gun dealers. That's where the real bargains are y'know..


I'm not aware of any gun shows this weekend in Northern Virginia that
are adjacent to the interstates. I do think there is one sometime this
month out near Dulles Airport...and that's one that's famous locally for
off the books firearms sales.

I'm supportive of the process Maryland requires for sales/transfers of
pistols and revolvers. The federal waiting period for paperwork approval
of a suppressor, however, is annoying. It was two to three months when I
got mine, and nowadays, I hear, it is closer to six months.

Its Me March 4th 17 01:17 PM

Yo Harry...sshhh...
 
On Saturday, March 4, 2017 at 8:06:35 AM UTC-5, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/4/17 7:58 AM, Tim wrote:
On Saturday, March 4, 2017 at 6:29:37 AM UTC-6, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/4/17 7:08 AM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Fri, 3 Mar 2017 21:25:37 -0500, Alex wrote:

Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/2/17 8:15 PM, Alex wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/2/17 4:19 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Thu, 2 Mar 2017 11:50:21 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

This is for the precision challenged I think these guys are the only
ones that double label for Aito *AND* ACP
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/17...l-metal-jacket



But, it's what's written on the cartridge that counts!

http://image.sportsmansguide.com/adi.../207427_ts.jpg




You've heard of Smith & Wesson, right, ****-for-brains?

That company has references to .45 ACP on many of its web pages. You
think some semi-retarded right-wing assholes here know more than S&W
about firearms?

Smith & Wesson:

http://tinyurl.com/h7kaykc
I couldn't find it and my browser yielded no results.

http://tinyurl.com/hjxogp2
Revolvers. No .45 ACP on that page either.


Click on caliber at the top and you'll see .45 ACP and a bunch of
revolvers that shoot it. Here's one, identified as a .45 ACP revolver:

http://tinyurl.com/hkscslp



A *revolver* identified as an Automatic Colt *Pistol*? Interesting and
also bad marketing.

It's strange. For the semi-auto, the caliber is '.45 Auto'. But for their revolvers, the caliber is
'.45 ACP'.

I think they're wrong in both cases. (Oh ****, I can feel Harry's pulse quicken.) The 'caliber' of
both the semi-autos and the revolvers is '.45 caliber'. The cartridge they fire is the '.45 Auto'.

I'm thinking someone at S&W didn't like the idea of stamping '.45 Auto' on the side of a revolver,
so they went with '.45 ACP' for people, like Harry, who didn't know any better.


That you and Alex think you are "thinking" is a great bit of humor to
start off the day. Your flaccid argument isn't with me...it's with all
the vendors who sell products they describe as .45 ACP firearms and
ammo. Perhaps you should write to them and tell them the error of their
ways. I'm sure Smith and Wesson would love to hear from a pair of mooks
like you two.

It's always nice to put up a post that gets so many responses from you
mouthbreathers, although in this case it wasn't my intention.

I'm heading out to Virginia a little later this morning, fully armed and
ready to take on a slew of empty soda pop and beer cans, a dozen full
two liter soda pop bottles, and various other targets. Too bad you're
such a flaming asshole, Herring, because if you weren't, I'd ask you to
join us...a group of guys whose political beliefs are all over the
spectrum. One of the group legally owns a few full auto firearms, and
I'm sure he'll have one of them with him.


Good luck and have fun Harry, and while your in Virginia don't forget to take advantage of those "out-of-trunk" gun dealers. That's where the real bargains are y'know..


I'm not aware of any gun shows this weekend in Northern Virginia that
are adjacent to the interstates. I do think there is one sometime this
month out near Dulles Airport...and that's one that's famous locally for
off the books firearms sales.

I'm supportive of the process Maryland requires for sales/transfers of
pistols and revolvers. The federal waiting period for paperwork approval
of a suppressor, however, is annoying. It was two to three months when I
got mine, and nowadays, I hear, it is closer to six months.


There's a bill to deregulate suppressors, allowing them to be sold just like any firearm. With the fresh new face of the DC crowd, I'm hoping it will get passed. Then prices will come down (after the initial rush) and they will become more reasonable.

Keyser Soze March 4th 17 01:20 PM

Yo Harry...sshhh...
 
On 3/4/17 8:17 AM, Its Me wrote:
On Saturday, March 4, 2017 at 8:06:35 AM UTC-5, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/4/17 7:58 AM, Tim wrote:
On Saturday, March 4, 2017 at 6:29:37 AM UTC-6, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/4/17 7:08 AM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Fri, 3 Mar 2017 21:25:37 -0500, Alex wrote:

Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/2/17 8:15 PM, Alex wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/2/17 4:19 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Thu, 2 Mar 2017 11:50:21 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

This is for the precision challenged I think these guys are the only
ones that double label for Aito *AND* ACP
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/17...l-metal-jacket



But, it's what's written on the cartridge that counts!

http://image.sportsmansguide.com/adi.../207427_ts.jpg




You've heard of Smith & Wesson, right, ****-for-brains?

That company has references to .45 ACP on many of its web pages. You
think some semi-retarded right-wing assholes here know more than S&W
about firearms?

Smith & Wesson:

http://tinyurl.com/h7kaykc
I couldn't find it and my browser yielded no results.

http://tinyurl.com/hjxogp2
Revolvers. No .45 ACP on that page either.


Click on caliber at the top and you'll see .45 ACP and a bunch of
revolvers that shoot it. Here's one, identified as a .45 ACP revolver:

http://tinyurl.com/hkscslp



A *revolver* identified as an Automatic Colt *Pistol*? Interesting and
also bad marketing.

It's strange. For the semi-auto, the caliber is '.45 Auto'. But for their revolvers, the caliber is
'.45 ACP'.

I think they're wrong in both cases. (Oh ****, I can feel Harry's pulse quicken.) The 'caliber' of
both the semi-autos and the revolvers is '.45 caliber'. The cartridge they fire is the '.45 Auto'.

I'm thinking someone at S&W didn't like the idea of stamping '.45 Auto' on the side of a revolver,
so they went with '.45 ACP' for people, like Harry, who didn't know any better.


That you and Alex think you are "thinking" is a great bit of humor to
start off the day. Your flaccid argument isn't with me...it's with all
the vendors who sell products they describe as .45 ACP firearms and
ammo. Perhaps you should write to them and tell them the error of their
ways. I'm sure Smith and Wesson would love to hear from a pair of mooks
like you two.

It's always nice to put up a post that gets so many responses from you
mouthbreathers, although in this case it wasn't my intention.

I'm heading out to Virginia a little later this morning, fully armed and
ready to take on a slew of empty soda pop and beer cans, a dozen full
two liter soda pop bottles, and various other targets. Too bad you're
such a flaming asshole, Herring, because if you weren't, I'd ask you to
join us...a group of guys whose political beliefs are all over the
spectrum. One of the group legally owns a few full auto firearms, and
I'm sure he'll have one of them with him.

Good luck and have fun Harry, and while your in Virginia don't forget to take advantage of those "out-of-trunk" gun dealers. That's where the real bargains are y'know..


I'm not aware of any gun shows this weekend in Northern Virginia that
are adjacent to the interstates. I do think there is one sometime this
month out near Dulles Airport...and that's one that's famous locally for
off the books firearms sales.

I'm supportive of the process Maryland requires for sales/transfers of
pistols and revolvers. The federal waiting period for paperwork approval
of a suppressor, however, is annoying. It was two to three months when I
got mine, and nowadays, I hear, it is closer to six months.


There's a bill to deregulate suppressors, allowing them to be sold just like any firearm. With the fresh new face of the DC crowd, I'm hoping it will get passed. Then prices will come down (after the initial rush) and they will become more reasonable.


Yeah, I've seen a few news items on that. It would be a good idea. The
suppressor industry should work to drive the word "silencer" out of
common usage, because in typical civilian use a suppressor does not do
anything close to "silence" a firearm.

Tim March 4th 17 02:52 PM

Yo Harry...sshhh...
 

7:06 AMKeyser Soze
On 3/4/17 7:58 AM, Tim wrote:
On Saturday, March 4, 2017 at 6:29:37 AM UTC-6, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/4/17 7:08 AM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Fri, 3 Mar 2017 21:25:37 -0500, Alex wrote:

Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/2/17 8:15 PM, Alex wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/2/17 4:19 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Thu, 2 Mar 2017 11:50:21 -0800 (PST), Tim

- show quoted text -
I'm not aware of any gun shows this weekend in Northern Virginia that
are adjacent to the interstates. I do think there is one sometime this
month out near Dulles Airport...and that's one that's famous locally for
off the books firearms sales.

I'm supportive of the process Maryland requires for sales/transfers of
pistols and revolvers. The federal waiting period for paperwork approval
of a suppressor, however, is annoying. It was two to three months when I
got mine, and nowadays, I hear, it is closer to six months.
.....

Doesn't have to be a gun show. You've said in the past of people dealing guns out of the trunk of their car is commonplace like they're as popular as a Starbucks. According to you one doesn't have to look very far to find them.

[email protected] March 4th 17 06:41 PM

Yo Harry...sshhh...
 
On Sat, 4 Mar 2017 08:06:32 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:


I'm supportive of the process Maryland requires for sales/transfers of
pistols and revolvers.


Yeah you might have to ask 2 or 3 people in PG county before you can
find someone to sell you an off the books gun.
It is really working great in Baltimore too. 54 murders so far, most
unsolved.

The federal waiting period for paperwork approval
of a suppressor, however, is annoying. It was two to three months when I
got mine, and nowadays, I hear, it is closer to six months.


Why would suppressor be NFA devices in the first place? If anything
they make guns safer. (less chance of hearing loss)


[email protected] March 4th 17 06:45 PM

Yo Harry...sshhh...
 
On Sat, 4 Mar 2017 08:20:12 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:

Yeah, I've seen a few news items on that. It would be a good idea. The
suppressor industry should work to drive the word "silencer" out of
common usage, because in typical civilian use a suppressor does not do
anything close to "silence" a firearm.


We can blame Hiram Maxim for that. He coined the name for his new
device to "silence" firearms, over 100 years ago

Poco Deplorevole March 4th 17 08:06 PM

Yo Harry...sshhh...
 
On Sat, 4 Mar 2017 08:36:06 -0500 (EST), justan wrote:

Poco Deplorevole Wrote in message:
On Fri, 3 Mar 2017 21:34:24 -0500, Alex wrote:

Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/3/17 7:32 AM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Thu, 2 Mar 2017 19:12:03 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 3/2/17 6:46 PM, Bill wrote:
Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Thu, 2 Mar 2017 16:53:00 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 3/2/17 4:51 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Thu, 2 Mar 2017 16:36:47 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 3/2/17 4:19 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Thu, 2 Mar 2017 11:50:21 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

This is for the precision challenged I think these guys are
the only
ones that double label for Aito *AND* ACP
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/17...l-metal-jacket


But, it's what's written on the cartridge that counts!

http://image.sportsmansguide.com/adi.../207427_ts.jpg




You've heard of Smith & Wesson, right, ****-for-brains?

That company has references to .45 ACP on many of its web
pages. You
think some semi-retarded right-wing assholes here know more
than S&W
about firearms?

Smith & Wesson:

http://tinyurl.com/h7kaykc

http://tinyurl.com/hjxogp2

http://tinyurl.com/jqf2o6r

They are either referring to the gun or they, like you, are being
imprecise with the language.

The cartridge is rightfully called '.45 Auto'. Find one .45
cartridge
with '.45 ACP' on the base.

Or, you could just gracefully bow out.

Also, from your link:


Specifications
SKU: 11526
Model: M&P®45 M2.0? Thumb Safety
Caliber: .45 AUTO
Capacity: 10+1
Barrel Length: 4.6" / 11.7 cm
Overall Length: 7.9"
Front Sight: Steel - White Dot
Rear Sight: Steel - White Two Dot
Action: Striker Fire
Grip: Polymer
Weight: 27.0 oz / 765.4g
Barrel Material: Stainless Steel - Armornite® Finish
Slide Material: Stainless Steel - Armornite® Finish
Frame Material: Polymer
Purpose: Home Protection, Personal Protection

Note 'Caliber: .45 AUTO'. Maybe you missed that. I didn't check
the rest of your links.

So far, you're batting about a zero.

Tell us about 'Digital Desire' instead.


I am sure S&W knows a lot more about firearms nomenclature than
you and
your braindead buds here ever will.

Show me a cartridge with '.45 ACP' on the base.

I'm sure they are experts in firearm nomenclature. If they're talking
about the firearm, then '.45
ACP' could well be correct. Do they make .45 Auto ammunition? If
so, I'll
bet the cartridge base
says '.45 Auto'.

Now hush, Mr. Precise. You blew it.


Maybe 50 years plus ago, it said ACP, but the rest of the
manufacturers did
not want to mention Colt. Wasn't a30.06 originally a Winchester
30.06?


The fact is, the round has several names in common use by authoritative
vendors.

And those using '.45 ACP' are wrong. (You missed that part.) Besides
the two names under discussion,
what other names are in 'common use by authoritative vendors'?



Yawn.

IOW you can't name any. Nice job, writer. You are well known as a
liar. Why continue on that path?


'The proof is in the pudding.'

I keep waiting for him to show us the cartridge with .45 ACP stamped on the base, and to show us the
'other names in 'common use by authoritative vendors'

I reckon we shouldn't hold our breath.


I thought 45 ACP was the name of a particular pistol model.
Wouldn't it be tough to try to jam a bunch of em into a
magazine?


Smith and Wesson has '.45 ACP' stamped on the side of one of their revolvers.

https://www.smith-wesson.com/firearms/model-625-jm

Scroll down about half a page and check out the barrel. Maybe Harry has one of these, and that's why
he's so confused.

Poco Deplorevole March 4th 17 08:10 PM

Yo Harry...sshhh...
 
On Sat, 4 Mar 2017 07:29:34 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 3/4/17 7:08 AM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Fri, 3 Mar 2017 21:25:37 -0500, Alex wrote:

Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/2/17 8:15 PM, Alex wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/2/17 4:19 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Thu, 2 Mar 2017 11:50:21 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

This is for the precision challenged I think these guys are the only
ones that double label for Aito *AND* ACP
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/17...l-metal-jacket



But, it's what's written on the cartridge that counts!

http://image.sportsmansguide.com/adi.../207427_ts.jpg




You've heard of Smith & Wesson, right, ****-for-brains?

That company has references to .45 ACP on many of its web pages. You
think some semi-retarded right-wing assholes here know more than S&W
about firearms?

Smith & Wesson:

http://tinyurl.com/h7kaykc
I couldn't find it and my browser yielded no results.

http://tinyurl.com/hjxogp2
Revolvers. No .45 ACP on that page either.


Click on caliber at the top and you'll see .45 ACP and a bunch of
revolvers that shoot it. Here's one, identified as a .45 ACP revolver:

http://tinyurl.com/hkscslp



A *revolver* identified as an Automatic Colt *Pistol*? Interesting and
also bad marketing.


It's strange. For the semi-auto, the caliber is '.45 Auto'. But for their revolvers, the caliber is
'.45 ACP'.

I think they're wrong in both cases. (Oh ****, I can feel Harry's pulse quicken.) The 'caliber' of
both the semi-autos and the revolvers is '.45 caliber'. The cartridge they fire is the '.45 Auto'.

I'm thinking someone at S&W didn't like the idea of stamping '.45 Auto' on the side of a revolver,
so they went with '.45 ACP' for people, like Harry, who didn't know any better.


That you and Alex think you are "thinking" is a great bit of humor to
start off the day. Your flaccid argument isn't with me...it's with all
the vendors who sell products they describe as .45 ACP firearms and
ammo. Perhaps you should write to them and tell them the error of their
ways. I'm sure Smith and Wesson would love to hear from a pair of mooks
like you two.

It's always nice to put up a post that gets so many responses from you
mouthbreathers, although in this case it wasn't my intention.

I'm heading out to Virginia a little later this morning, fully armed and
ready to take on a slew of empty soda pop and beer cans, a dozen full
two liter soda pop bottles, and various other targets. Too bad you're
such a flaming asshole, Herring, because if you weren't, I'd ask you to
join us...a group of guys whose political beliefs are all over the
spectrum. One of the group legally owns a few full auto firearms, and
I'm sure he'll have one of them with him.


You talked about 'authoritative vendors' a while back calling the .45 Auto cartridge by 'several
names'. Well, where are they? See, Harry, you spout bull**** and don't back it up. Yet you complain
about Trump.

Whatever would make you think I'd consider joining you and whomever for anything?

Poco Deplorevole March 4th 17 08:12 PM

Yo Harry...sshhh...
 
On Sat, 4 Mar 2017 08:06:32 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 3/4/17 7:58 AM, Tim wrote:
On Saturday, March 4, 2017 at 6:29:37 AM UTC-6, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/4/17 7:08 AM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Fri, 3 Mar 2017 21:25:37 -0500, Alex wrote:

Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/2/17 8:15 PM, Alex wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/2/17 4:19 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Thu, 2 Mar 2017 11:50:21 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

This is for the precision challenged I think these guys are the only
ones that double label for Aito *AND* ACP
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/17...l-metal-jacket



But, it's what's written on the cartridge that counts!

http://image.sportsmansguide.com/adi.../207427_ts.jpg




You've heard of Smith & Wesson, right, ****-for-brains?

That company has references to .45 ACP on many of its web pages. You
think some semi-retarded right-wing assholes here know more than S&W
about firearms?

Smith & Wesson:

http://tinyurl.com/h7kaykc
I couldn't find it and my browser yielded no results.

http://tinyurl.com/hjxogp2
Revolvers. No .45 ACP on that page either.


Click on caliber at the top and you'll see .45 ACP and a bunch of
revolvers that shoot it. Here's one, identified as a .45 ACP revolver:

http://tinyurl.com/hkscslp



A *revolver* identified as an Automatic Colt *Pistol*? Interesting and
also bad marketing.

It's strange. For the semi-auto, the caliber is '.45 Auto'. But for their revolvers, the caliber is
'.45 ACP'.

I think they're wrong in both cases. (Oh ****, I can feel Harry's pulse quicken.) The 'caliber' of
both the semi-autos and the revolvers is '.45 caliber'. The cartridge they fire is the '.45 Auto'.

I'm thinking someone at S&W didn't like the idea of stamping '.45 Auto' on the side of a revolver,
so they went with '.45 ACP' for people, like Harry, who didn't know any better.


That you and Alex think you are "thinking" is a great bit of humor to
start off the day. Your flaccid argument isn't with me...it's with all
the vendors who sell products they describe as .45 ACP firearms and
ammo. Perhaps you should write to them and tell them the error of their
ways. I'm sure Smith and Wesson would love to hear from a pair of mooks
like you two.

It's always nice to put up a post that gets so many responses from you
mouthbreathers, although in this case it wasn't my intention.

I'm heading out to Virginia a little later this morning, fully armed and
ready to take on a slew of empty soda pop and beer cans, a dozen full
two liter soda pop bottles, and various other targets. Too bad you're
such a flaming asshole, Herring, because if you weren't, I'd ask you to
join us...a group of guys whose political beliefs are all over the
spectrum. One of the group legally owns a few full auto firearms, and
I'm sure he'll have one of them with him.


Good luck and have fun Harry, and while your in Virginia don't forget to take advantage of those "out-of-trunk" gun dealers. That's where the real bargains are y'know..


I'm not aware of any gun shows this weekend in Northern Virginia that
are adjacent to the interstates. I do think there is one sometime this
month out near Dulles Airport...and that's one that's famous locally for
off the books firearms sales.

Obviously you've never been there. Show us something to back up your claim, Herr Scheiße Meister.

Poco Deplorevole March 4th 17 08:13 PM

Yo Harry...sshhh...
 
On Sat, 4 Mar 2017 08:20:12 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 3/4/17 8:17 AM, Its Me wrote:
On Saturday, March 4, 2017 at 8:06:35 AM UTC-5, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/4/17 7:58 AM, Tim wrote:
On Saturday, March 4, 2017 at 6:29:37 AM UTC-6, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/4/17 7:08 AM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Fri, 3 Mar 2017 21:25:37 -0500, Alex wrote:

Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/2/17 8:15 PM, Alex wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/2/17 4:19 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Thu, 2 Mar 2017 11:50:21 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

This is for the precision challenged I think these guys are the only
ones that double label for Aito *AND* ACP
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/17...l-metal-jacket



But, it's what's written on the cartridge that counts!

http://image.sportsmansguide.com/adi.../207427_ts.jpg




You've heard of Smith & Wesson, right, ****-for-brains?

That company has references to .45 ACP on many of its web pages. You
think some semi-retarded right-wing assholes here know more than S&W
about firearms?

Smith & Wesson:

http://tinyurl.com/h7kaykc
I couldn't find it and my browser yielded no results.

http://tinyurl.com/hjxogp2
Revolvers. No .45 ACP on that page either.


Click on caliber at the top and you'll see .45 ACP and a bunch of
revolvers that shoot it. Here's one, identified as a .45 ACP revolver:

http://tinyurl.com/hkscslp



A *revolver* identified as an Automatic Colt *Pistol*? Interesting and
also bad marketing.

It's strange. For the semi-auto, the caliber is '.45 Auto'. But for their revolvers, the caliber is
'.45 ACP'.

I think they're wrong in both cases. (Oh ****, I can feel Harry's pulse quicken.) The 'caliber' of
both the semi-autos and the revolvers is '.45 caliber'. The cartridge they fire is the '.45 Auto'.

I'm thinking someone at S&W didn't like the idea of stamping '.45 Auto' on the side of a revolver,
so they went with '.45 ACP' for people, like Harry, who didn't know any better.


That you and Alex think you are "thinking" is a great bit of humor to
start off the day. Your flaccid argument isn't with me...it's with all
the vendors who sell products they describe as .45 ACP firearms and
ammo. Perhaps you should write to them and tell them the error of their
ways. I'm sure Smith and Wesson would love to hear from a pair of mooks
like you two.

It's always nice to put up a post that gets so many responses from you
mouthbreathers, although in this case it wasn't my intention.

I'm heading out to Virginia a little later this morning, fully armed and
ready to take on a slew of empty soda pop and beer cans, a dozen full
two liter soda pop bottles, and various other targets. Too bad you're
such a flaming asshole, Herring, because if you weren't, I'd ask you to
join us...a group of guys whose political beliefs are all over the
spectrum. One of the group legally owns a few full auto firearms, and
I'm sure he'll have one of them with him.

Good luck and have fun Harry, and while your in Virginia don't forget to take advantage of those "out-of-trunk" gun dealers. That's where the real bargains are y'know..


I'm not aware of any gun shows this weekend in Northern Virginia that
are adjacent to the interstates. I do think there is one sometime this
month out near Dulles Airport...and that's one that's famous locally for
off the books firearms sales.

I'm supportive of the process Maryland requires for sales/transfers of
pistols and revolvers. The federal waiting period for paperwork approval
of a suppressor, however, is annoying. It was two to three months when I
got mine, and nowadays, I hear, it is closer to six months.


There's a bill to deregulate suppressors, allowing them to be sold just like any firearm. With the fresh new face of the DC crowd, I'm hoping it will get passed. Then prices will come down (after the initial rush) and they will become more reasonable.


Yeah, I've seen a few news items on that. It would be a good idea. The
suppressor industry should work to drive the word "silencer" out of
common usage, because in typical civilian use a suppressor does not do
anything close to "silence" a firearm.


Preciseness is relative, Harry, as you so able demonstrate time after time.

Poco Deplorevole March 4th 17 08:15 PM

Yo Harry...sshhh...
 
On Sat, 04 Mar 2017 13:41:52 -0500, wrote:

On Sat, 4 Mar 2017 08:06:32 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:


I'm supportive of the process Maryland requires for sales/transfers of
pistols and revolvers.


Yeah you might have to ask 2 or 3 people in PG county before you can
find someone to sell you an off the books gun.
It is really working great in Baltimore too. 54 murders so far, most
unsolved.

The federal waiting period for paperwork approval
of a suppressor, however, is annoying. It was two to three months when I
got mine, and nowadays, I hear, it is closer to six months.


Why would suppressor be NFA devices in the first place? If anything
they make guns safer. (less chance of hearing loss)


I wouldn't be a bit surprised if the cops in PG County wouldn't sell you an 'off the books' gun.

Keyser Soze March 4th 17 11:32 PM

Yo Harry...sshhh...
 
On 3/4/17 8:43 AM, justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 3/4/17 7:08 AM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Fri, 3 Mar 2017 21:25:37 -0500, Alex wrote:

Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/2/17 8:15 PM, Alex wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/2/17 4:19 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Thu, 2 Mar 2017 11:50:21 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

This is for the precision challenged I think these guys are the only
ones that double label for Aito *AND* ACP
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/17...l-metal-jacket



But, it's what's written on the cartridge that counts!

http://image.sportsmansguide.com/adi.../207427_ts.jpg




You've heard of Smith & Wesson, right, ****-for-brains?

That company has references to .45 ACP on many of its web pages. You
think some semi-retarded right-wing assholes here know more than S&W
about firearms?

Smith & Wesson:

http://tinyurl.com/h7kaykc
I couldn't find it and my browser yielded no results.

http://tinyurl.com/hjxogp2
Revolvers. No .45 ACP on that page either.


Click on caliber at the top and you'll see .45 ACP and a bunch of
revolvers that shoot it. Here's one, identified as a .45 ACP revolver:

http://tinyurl.com/hkscslp



A *revolver* identified as an Automatic Colt *Pistol*? Interesting and
also bad marketing.

It's strange. For the semi-auto, the caliber is '.45 Auto'. But for their revolvers, the caliber is
'.45 ACP'.

I think they're wrong in both cases. (Oh ****, I can feel Harry's pulse quicken.) The 'caliber' of
both the semi-autos and the revolvers is '.45 caliber'. The cartridge they fire is the '.45 Auto'.

I'm thinking someone at S&W didn't like the idea of stamping '.45 Auto' on the side of a revolver,
so they went with '.45 ACP' for people, like Harry, who didn't know any better.


That you and Alex think you are "thinking" is a great bit of humor to
start off the day. Your flaccid argument isn't with me...it's with all
the vendors who sell products they describe as .45 ACP firearms and
ammo. Perhaps you should write to them and tell them the error of their
ways. I'm sure Smith and Wesson would love to hear from a pair of mooks
like you two.

It's always nice to put up a post that gets so many responses from you
mouthbreathers, although in this case it wasn't my intention.

I'm heading out to Virginia a little later this morning, fully armed and
ready to take on a slew of empty soda pop and beer cans, a dozen full
two liter soda pop bottles, and various other targets. Too bad you're
such a flaming asshole, Herring, because if you weren't, I'd ask you to
join us...a group of guys whose political beliefs are all over the
spectrum. One of the group legally owns a few full auto firearms, and
I'm sure he'll have one of them with him.


Going stumpy hunting? Are you all going to do a sleep over in your
cinderblock cabin? What do you call yourselves? The Gay Gunners
would work if you haven't already picked out a name?


Alas, Stumpy was laid to rest a few years ago after a good christian
service. Now there's a septic field where he once reigned.
And, as per plan, the "cabin" you referred is now a storage building,
since the actual habitable cabin has been built on the site.

Keyser Soze March 4th 17 11:37 PM

Yo Harry...sshhh...
 
On 3/4/17 3:10 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
'several
names'. Well, where are they? See, Harry, you spout bull**** and don't back it up. Yet you complain
about Trump.

Whatever would make you think I'd consider joining you and whomever for anything?


You mean, like your walk on a golf course?

[email protected] March 4th 17 11:44 PM

Yo Harry...sshhh...
 
On Sat, 04 Mar 2017 15:15:04 -0500, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:


I wouldn't be a bit surprised if the cops in PG County wouldn't sell you an 'off the books' gun.


Most of the off the books guns I have came from cops (Charlotte County
Fla SO, DC and Md State)

Poco Deplorevole March 4th 17 11:52 PM

Yo Harry...sshhh...
 
On Sat, 4 Mar 2017 18:37:05 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 3/4/17 3:10 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
'several
names'. Well, where are they? See, Harry, you spout bull**** and don't back it up. Yet you complain
about Trump.

Whatever would make you think I'd consider joining you and whomever for anything?


You mean, like your walk on a golf course?


I'd let you stay way out front, 'cause I'd probably have a hard time keeping up with something like
you.

Alex[_10_] March 5th 17 02:49 AM

Yo Harry...sshhh...
 
Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Fri, 3 Mar 2017 21:25:37 -0500, Alex wrote:

Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/2/17 8:15 PM, Alex wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/2/17 4:19 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Thu, 2 Mar 2017 11:50:21 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

This is for the precision challenged I think these guys are the only
ones that double label for Aito *AND* ACP
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/17...l-metal-jacket


But, it's what's written on the cartridge that counts!

http://image.sportsmansguide.com/adi.../207427_ts.jpg



You've heard of Smith & Wesson, right, ****-for-brains?

That company has references to .45 ACP on many of its web pages. You
think some semi-retarded right-wing assholes here know more than S&W
about firearms?

Smith & Wesson:

http://tinyurl.com/h7kaykc
I couldn't find it and my browser yielded no results.
http://tinyurl.com/hjxogp2
Revolvers. No .45 ACP on that page either.

Click on caliber at the top and you'll see .45 ACP and a bunch of
revolvers that shoot it. Here's one, identified as a .45 ACP revolver:

http://tinyurl.com/hkscslp


A *revolver* identified as an Automatic Colt *Pistol*? Interesting and
also bad marketing.

It's strange. For the semi-auto, the caliber is '.45 Auto'. But for their revolvers, the caliber is
'.45 ACP'.

I think they're wrong in both cases. (Oh ****, I can feel Harry's pulse quicken.) The 'caliber' of
both the semi-autos and the revolvers is '.45 caliber'. The cartridge they fire is the '.45 Auto'.

I'm thinking someone at S&W didn't like the idea of stamping '.45 Auto' on the side of a revolver,
so they went with '.45 ACP' for people, like Harry, who didn't know any better.


Good guess. .45 auto is an odd cartridge for a revolver.

Alex[_10_] March 5th 17 02:49 AM

Yo Harry...sshhh...
 
Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Fri, 3 Mar 2017 21:34:24 -0500, Alex wrote:

Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/3/17 7:32 AM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Thu, 2 Mar 2017 19:12:03 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 3/2/17 6:46 PM, Bill wrote:
Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Thu, 2 Mar 2017 16:53:00 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 3/2/17 4:51 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Thu, 2 Mar 2017 16:36:47 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 3/2/17 4:19 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Thu, 2 Mar 2017 11:50:21 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

This is for the precision challenged I think these guys are
the only
ones that double label for Aito *AND* ACP
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/17...l-metal-jacket

But, it's what's written on the cartridge that counts!

http://image.sportsmansguide.com/adi.../207427_ts.jpg



You've heard of Smith & Wesson, right, ****-for-brains?

That company has references to .45 ACP on many of its web
pages. You
think some semi-retarded right-wing assholes here know more
than S&W
about firearms?

Smith & Wesson:

http://tinyurl.com/h7kaykc

http://tinyurl.com/hjxogp2

http://tinyurl.com/jqf2o6r
They are either referring to the gun or they, like you, are being
imprecise with the language.

The cartridge is rightfully called '.45 Auto'. Find one .45
cartridge
with '.45 ACP' on the base.

Or, you could just gracefully bow out.

Also, from your link:


Specifications
SKU: 11526
Model: M&P®45 M2.0? Thumb Safety
Caliber: .45 AUTO
Capacity: 10+1
Barrel Length: 4.6" / 11.7 cm
Overall Length: 7.9"
Front Sight: Steel - White Dot
Rear Sight: Steel - White Two Dot
Action: Striker Fire
Grip: Polymer
Weight: 27.0 oz / 765.4g
Barrel Material: Stainless Steel - Armornite® Finish
Slide Material: Stainless Steel - Armornite® Finish
Frame Material: Polymer
Purpose: Home Protection, Personal Protection

Note 'Caliber: .45 AUTO'. Maybe you missed that. I didn't check
the rest of your links.

So far, you're batting about a zero.

Tell us about 'Digital Desire' instead.

I am sure S&W knows a lot more about firearms nomenclature than
you and
your braindead buds here ever will.
Show me a cartridge with '.45 ACP' on the base.

I'm sure they are experts in firearm nomenclature. If they're talking
about the firearm, then '.45
ACP' could well be correct. Do they make .45 Auto ammunition? If
so, I'll
bet the cartridge base
says '.45 Auto'.

Now hush, Mr. Precise. You blew it.

Maybe 50 years plus ago, it said ACP, but the rest of the
manufacturers did
not want to mention Colt. Wasn't a30.06 originally a Winchester
30.06?

The fact is, the round has several names in common use by authoritative
vendors.
And those using '.45 ACP' are wrong. (You missed that part.) Besides
the two names under discussion,
what other names are in 'common use by authoritative vendors'?


Yawn.

IOW you can't name any. Nice job, writer. You are well known as a
liar. Why continue on that path?

'The proof is in the pudding.'

I keep waiting for him to show us the cartridge with .45 ACP stamped on the base, and to show us the
'other names in 'common use by authoritative vendors'

I reckon we shouldn't hold our breath.


Nope.

[email protected] March 5th 17 04:43 AM

Yo Harry...sshhh...
 
On Sat, 4 Mar 2017 21:49:10 -0500, Alex wrote:

Good guess. .45 auto is an odd cartridge for a revolver.


Holy moon clip Batman ;-)
I think the government made a ****load of M17s so they are not that
"odd" but they do seem to be getting expensive. I remember when they
were $25-30 at Ye Olde Hunter (Interarmco). Now I see them at over a
grand.
I think there were also more than a few W&S MkVIs modified to fire the
..45 auto with a clip. These things were really dirt cheap at YOH, like
$10.

Keyser Soze March 5th 17 12:59 PM

Yo Harry...sshhh...
 
On 3/4/17 11:43 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 4 Mar 2017 21:49:10 -0500, Alex wrote:

Good guess. .45 auto is an odd cartridge for a revolver.


Holy moon clip Batman ;-)
I think the government made a ****load of M17s so they are not that
"odd" but they do seem to be getting expensive. I remember when they
were $25-30 at Ye Olde Hunter (Interarmco). Now I see them at over a
grand.
I think there were also more than a few W&S MkVIs modified to fire the
.45 auto with a clip. These things were really dirt cheap at YOH, like
$10.

You are referring to the M1917 revolver, as described in Wiki and elsewhe

The M1917 Revolver (formally United States Revolver, Caliber .45, M1917)
was a U.S. six-shot revolver of .45 ACP caliber. It was adopted by the
U.S. Army in 1917 to supplement the standard M1911 .45 ACP
semi-automatic pistol during World War I. Afterwards, it was primarily
used by secondary and non-deployed troops. There were two variations of
the M1917, one made by Colt and the other made by Smith & Wesson.

Or how about:

The .45 ACP (Automatic Colt Pistol), or .45 Auto (11.43×23mm) is a
handgun cartridge designed by John Browning in 1905, for use in his
prototype Colt semi-automatic pistol. After successful military trials
it was adopted along with the Browning .45 Colt handgun as the .45 M1911
cartridge. The handgun was designated M1911 handgun.

Or maybe:

The Smith & Wesson Model 22 series of revolvers is a refined, commercial
version of the M1917 revolver issued during World War I.

The Model 22 was built to directly chamber rimless pistol cartridges
like the .45 ACP and the .45 GAP but allows for use with moon clips.

The Model 22 is a large frame double-action revolver chambered in .45
ACP using half or full moon clips. It may also use .45 Auto Rim as they
were designed for revolvers chambered in .45 ACP or .45 GAP using the
half or full moon clips. Built around Smith & Wesson's large N frame, it
was originally sold as the Model 1950 and is normally fitted with a 5½"
barrel with no under lug and fixed combat sights. Target models are the
models 25 and 26.


Nomenclature...sometimes it gets tricky. :)



Its Me March 5th 17 02:39 PM

Yo Harry...sshhh...
 
On Saturday, March 4, 2017 at 9:49:16 PM UTC-5, Alex wrote:
Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Fri, 3 Mar 2017 21:25:37 -0500, Alex wrote:

Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/2/17 8:15 PM, Alex wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/2/17 4:19 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Thu, 2 Mar 2017 11:50:21 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

This is for the precision challenged I think these guys are the only
ones that double label for Aito *AND* ACP
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/17...l-metal-jacket


But, it's what's written on the cartridge that counts!

http://image.sportsmansguide.com/adi.../207427_ts.jpg



You've heard of Smith & Wesson, right, ****-for-brains?

That company has references to .45 ACP on many of its web pages. You
think some semi-retarded right-wing assholes here know more than S&W
about firearms?

Smith & Wesson:

http://tinyurl.com/h7kaykc
I couldn't find it and my browser yielded no results.
http://tinyurl.com/hjxogp2
Revolvers. No .45 ACP on that page either.

Click on caliber at the top and you'll see .45 ACP and a bunch of
revolvers that shoot it. Here's one, identified as a .45 ACP revolver:

http://tinyurl.com/hkscslp


A *revolver* identified as an Automatic Colt *Pistol*? Interesting and
also bad marketing.

It's strange. For the semi-auto, the caliber is '.45 Auto'. But for their revolvers, the caliber is
'.45 ACP'.

I think they're wrong in both cases. (Oh ****, I can feel Harry's pulse quicken.) The 'caliber' of
both the semi-autos and the revolvers is '.45 caliber'. The cartridge they fire is the '.45 Auto'.

I'm thinking someone at S&W didn't like the idea of stamping '.45 Auto' on the side of a revolver,
so they went with '.45 ACP' for people, like Harry, who didn't know any better.


Good guess. .45 auto is an odd cartridge for a revolver.


I have a Ruger Blackhawk that has interchangeable cylinders in 45 Auto and 45 Long Colt. I rarely shoot 45 Auto in it... much more fun to shoot the 45 LC. Big boom!

Cost is a consideration, but between casting my own bullets and handloading, it's manageable. It's fun to play around with the loads. A hot load in 45 LC will wake you up. :)

[email protected] March 5th 17 03:28 PM

Yo Harry...sshhh...
 
On Sun, 5 Mar 2017 07:59:48 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 3/4/17 11:43 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 4 Mar 2017 21:49:10 -0500, Alex wrote:

Good guess. .45 auto is an odd cartridge for a revolver.


Holy moon clip Batman ;-)
I think the government made a ****load of M17s so they are not that
"odd" but they do seem to be getting expensive. I remember when they
were $25-30 at Ye Olde Hunter (Interarmco). Now I see them at over a
grand.
I think there were also more than a few W&S MkVIs modified to fire the
.45 auto with a clip. These things were really dirt cheap at YOH, like
$10.

You are referring to the M1917 revolver, as described in Wiki and elsewhe

The M1917 Revolver (formally United States Revolver, Caliber .45, M1917)
was a U.S. six-shot revolver of .45 ACP caliber. It was adopted by the
U.S. Army in 1917 to supplement the standard M1911 .45 ACP
semi-automatic pistol during World War I. Afterwards, it was primarily
used by secondary and non-deployed troops. There were two variations of
the M1917, one made by Colt and the other made by Smith & Wesson.

Or how about:

The .45 ACP (Automatic Colt Pistol), or .45 Auto (11.43×23mm) is a
handgun cartridge designed by John Browning in 1905, for use in his
prototype Colt semi-automatic pistol. After successful military trials
it was adopted along with the Browning .45 Colt handgun as the .45 M1911
cartridge. The handgun was designated M1911 handgun.

Or maybe:

The Smith & Wesson Model 22 series of revolvers is a refined, commercial
version of the M1917 revolver issued during World War I.

The Model 22 was built to directly chamber rimless pistol cartridges
like the .45 ACP and the .45 GAP but allows for use with moon clips.

The Model 22 is a large frame double-action revolver chambered in .45
ACP using half or full moon clips. It may also use .45 Auto Rim as they
were designed for revolvers chambered in .45 ACP or .45 GAP using the
half or full moon clips. Built around Smith & Wesson's large N frame, it
was originally sold as the Model 1950 and is normally fitted with a 5½"
barrel with no under lug and fixed combat sights. Target models are the
models 25 and 26.


Nomenclature...sometimes it gets tricky. :)


Yeah that one, and it wasn't that tricky. You didn't have any problem
googling it up.

Poco Deplorevole March 5th 17 03:31 PM

Yo Harry...sshhh...
 
On Sat, 4 Mar 2017 21:49:10 -0500, Alex wrote:

Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Fri, 3 Mar 2017 21:25:37 -0500, Alex wrote:

Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/2/17 8:15 PM, Alex wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/2/17 4:19 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Thu, 2 Mar 2017 11:50:21 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

This is for the precision challenged I think these guys are the only
ones that double label for Aito *AND* ACP
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/17...l-metal-jacket


But, it's what's written on the cartridge that counts!

http://image.sportsmansguide.com/adi.../207427_ts.jpg



You've heard of Smith & Wesson, right, ****-for-brains?

That company has references to .45 ACP on many of its web pages. You
think some semi-retarded right-wing assholes here know more than S&W
about firearms?

Smith & Wesson:

http://tinyurl.com/h7kaykc
I couldn't find it and my browser yielded no results.
http://tinyurl.com/hjxogp2
Revolvers. No .45 ACP on that page either.

Click on caliber at the top and you'll see .45 ACP and a bunch of
revolvers that shoot it. Here's one, identified as a .45 ACP revolver:

http://tinyurl.com/hkscslp


A *revolver* identified as an Automatic Colt *Pistol*? Interesting and
also bad marketing.

It's strange. For the semi-auto, the caliber is '.45 Auto'. But for their revolvers, the caliber is
'.45 ACP'.

I think they're wrong in both cases. (Oh ****, I can feel Harry's pulse quicken.) The 'caliber' of
both the semi-autos and the revolvers is '.45 caliber'. The cartridge they fire is the '.45 Auto'.

I'm thinking someone at S&W didn't like the idea of stamping '.45 Auto' on the side of a revolver,
so they went with '.45 ACP' for people, like Harry, who didn't know any better.


Good guess. .45 auto is an odd cartridge for a revolver.


Harry has expressed his desire for my death on multiple occasions. There is probably some
psychological significance to that, but since I'm not Harry's wife, I won't attempt to diagnose his
problem.

Poco Deplorevole March 5th 17 03:35 PM

Yo Harry...sshhh...
 
On Sun, 5 Mar 2017 07:59:48 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 3/4/17 11:43 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 4 Mar 2017 21:49:10 -0500, Alex wrote:

Good guess. .45 auto is an odd cartridge for a revolver.


Holy moon clip Batman ;-)
I think the government made a ****load of M17s so they are not that
"odd" but they do seem to be getting expensive. I remember when they
were $25-30 at Ye Olde Hunter (Interarmco). Now I see them at over a
grand.
I think there were also more than a few W&S MkVIs modified to fire the
.45 auto with a clip. These things were really dirt cheap at YOH, like
$10.

You are referring to the M1917 revolver, as described in Wiki and elsewhe

The M1917 Revolver (formally United States Revolver, Caliber .45, M1917)
was a U.S. six-shot revolver of .45 ACP caliber. It was adopted by the
U.S. Army in 1917 to supplement the standard M1911 .45 ACP
semi-automatic pistol during World War I. Afterwards, it was primarily
used by secondary and non-deployed troops. There were two variations of
the M1917, one made by Colt and the other made by Smith & Wesson.

Or how about:

The .45 ACP (Automatic Colt Pistol), or .45 Auto (11.43×23mm) is a
handgun cartridge designed by John Browning in 1905, for use in his
prototype Colt semi-automatic pistol. After successful military trials
it was adopted along with the Browning .45 Colt handgun as the .45 M1911
cartridge. The handgun was designated M1911 handgun.

Or maybe:

The Smith & Wesson Model 22 series of revolvers is a refined, commercial
version of the M1917 revolver issued during World War I.

The Model 22 was built to directly chamber rimless pistol cartridges
like the .45 ACP and the .45 GAP but allows for use with moon clips.

The Model 22 is a large frame double-action revolver chambered in .45
ACP using half or full moon clips. It may also use .45 Auto Rim as they
were designed for revolvers chambered in .45 ACP or .45 GAP using the
half or full moon clips. Built around Smith & Wesson's large N frame, it
was originally sold as the Model 1950 and is normally fitted with a 5½"
barrel with no under lug and fixed combat sights. Target models are the
models 25 and 26.


Nomenclature...sometimes it gets tricky. :)


Obviously someone at Wiki doesn't know the correct nomenclature either. Hopefully Alex, or someone
else knowledgeable, will take the time to fix it.

Poco Deplorevole March 5th 17 03:38 PM

Yo Harry...sshhh...
 
On Sun, 05 Mar 2017 10:31:07 -0500, Poco Deplorevole wrote:

On Sat, 4 Mar 2017 21:49:10 -0500, Alex wrote:

Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Fri, 3 Mar 2017 21:25:37 -0500, Alex wrote:

Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/2/17 8:15 PM, Alex wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/2/17 4:19 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Thu, 2 Mar 2017 11:50:21 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

This is for the precision challenged I think these guys are the only
ones that double label for Aito *AND* ACP
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/17...l-metal-jacket


But, it's what's written on the cartridge that counts!

http://image.sportsmansguide.com/adi.../207427_ts.jpg



You've heard of Smith & Wesson, right, ****-for-brains?

That company has references to .45 ACP on many of its web pages. You
think some semi-retarded right-wing assholes here know more than S&W
about firearms?

Smith & Wesson:

http://tinyurl.com/h7kaykc
I couldn't find it and my browser yielded no results.
http://tinyurl.com/hjxogp2
Revolvers. No .45 ACP on that page either.

Click on caliber at the top and you'll see .45 ACP and a bunch of
revolvers that shoot it. Here's one, identified as a .45 ACP revolver:

http://tinyurl.com/hkscslp


A *revolver* identified as an Automatic Colt *Pistol*? Interesting and
also bad marketing.
It's strange. For the semi-auto, the caliber is '.45 Auto'. But for their revolvers, the caliber is
'.45 ACP'.

I think they're wrong in both cases. (Oh ****, I can feel Harry's pulse quicken.) The 'caliber' of
both the semi-autos and the revolvers is '.45 caliber'. The cartridge they fire is the '.45 Auto'.

I'm thinking someone at S&W didn't like the idea of stamping '.45 Auto' on the side of a revolver,
so they went with '.45 ACP' for people, like Harry, who didn't know any better.


Good guess. .45 auto is an odd cartridge for a revolver.


Harry has expressed his desire for my death on multiple occasions. There is probably some
psychological significance to that, but since I'm not Harry's wife, I won't attempt to diagnose his
problem.


[Mistakenly posted here. Should be under 'Vehicle Wraps'. But, the issue remains nevertheless.]

Keyser Soze March 5th 17 05:38 PM

Yo Harry...sshhh...
 
On 3/5/17 10:38 AM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Sun, 05 Mar 2017 10:31:07 -0500, Poco Deplorevole wrote:

On Sat, 4 Mar 2017 21:49:10 -0500, Alex wrote:

Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Fri, 3 Mar 2017 21:25:37 -0500, Alex wrote:

Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/2/17 8:15 PM, Alex wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/2/17 4:19 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Thu, 2 Mar 2017 11:50:21 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

This is for the precision challenged I think these guys are the only
ones that double label for Aito *AND* ACP
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/17...l-metal-jacket


But, it's what's written on the cartridge that counts!

http://image.sportsmansguide.com/adi.../207427_ts.jpg



You've heard of Smith & Wesson, right, ****-for-brains?

That company has references to .45 ACP on many of its web pages. You
think some semi-retarded right-wing assholes here know more than S&W
about firearms?

Smith & Wesson:

http://tinyurl.com/h7kaykc
I couldn't find it and my browser yielded no results.
http://tinyurl.com/hjxogp2
Revolvers. No .45 ACP on that page either.

Click on caliber at the top and you'll see .45 ACP and a bunch of
revolvers that shoot it. Here's one, identified as a .45 ACP revolver:

http://tinyurl.com/hkscslp


A *revolver* identified as an Automatic Colt *Pistol*? Interesting and
also bad marketing.
It's strange. For the semi-auto, the caliber is '.45 Auto'. But for their revolvers, the caliber is
'.45 ACP'.

I think they're wrong in both cases. (Oh ****, I can feel Harry's pulse quicken.) The 'caliber' of
both the semi-autos and the revolvers is '.45 caliber'. The cartridge they fire is the '.45 Auto'.

I'm thinking someone at S&W didn't like the idea of stamping '.45 Auto' on the side of a revolver,
so they went with '.45 ACP' for people, like Harry, who didn't know any better.

Good guess. .45 auto is an odd cartridge for a revolver.


Harry has expressed his desire for my death on multiple occasions. There is probably some
psychological significance to that, but since I'm not Harry's wife, I won't attempt to diagnose his
problem.


[Mistakenly posted here. Should be under 'Vehicle Wraps'. But, the issue remains nevertheless.]


You posted it three times...****-for-brains. As for your death, well,
that's not up to me, although I admit I have no use for racist xenophobes.

Keyser Soze March 5th 17 05:39 PM

Yo Harry...sshhh...
 
On 3/5/17 10:28 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 5 Mar 2017 07:59:48 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 3/4/17 11:43 PM,
wrote:
On Sat, 4 Mar 2017 21:49:10 -0500, Alex wrote:

Good guess. .45 auto is an odd cartridge for a revolver.

Holy moon clip Batman ;-)
I think the government made a ****load of M17s so they are not that
"odd" but they do seem to be getting expensive. I remember when they
were $25-30 at Ye Olde Hunter (Interarmco). Now I see them at over a
grand.
I think there were also more than a few W&S MkVIs modified to fire the
.45 auto with a clip. These things were really dirt cheap at YOH, like
$10.

You are referring to the M1917 revolver, as described in Wiki and elsewhe

The M1917 Revolver (formally United States Revolver, Caliber .45, M1917)
was a U.S. six-shot revolver of .45 ACP caliber. It was adopted by the
U.S. Army in 1917 to supplement the standard M1911 .45 ACP
semi-automatic pistol during World War I. Afterwards, it was primarily
used by secondary and non-deployed troops. There were two variations of
the M1917, one made by Colt and the other made by Smith & Wesson.

Or how about:

The .45 ACP (Automatic Colt Pistol), or .45 Auto (11.43×23mm) is a
handgun cartridge designed by John Browning in 1905, for use in his
prototype Colt semi-automatic pistol. After successful military trials
it was adopted along with the Browning .45 Colt handgun as the .45 M1911
cartridge. The handgun was designated M1911 handgun.

Or maybe:

The Smith & Wesson Model 22 series of revolvers is a refined, commercial
version of the M1917 revolver issued during World War I.

The Model 22 was built to directly chamber rimless pistol cartridges
like the .45 ACP and the .45 GAP but allows for use with moon clips.

The Model 22 is a large frame double-action revolver chambered in .45
ACP using half or full moon clips. It may also use .45 Auto Rim as they
were designed for revolvers chambered in .45 ACP or .45 GAP using the
half or full moon clips. Built around Smith & Wesson's large N frame, it
was originally sold as the Model 1950 and is normally fitted with a 5½"
barrel with no under lug and fixed combat sights. Target models are the
models 25 and 26.


Nomenclature...sometimes it gets tricky. :)


Yeah that one, and it wasn't that tricky. You didn't have any problem
googling it up.


My reference was to the .45 ACP nomenclature.

[email protected] March 5th 17 05:58 PM

Yo Harry...sshhh...
 
On Sun, 5 Mar 2017 12:39:41 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 3/5/17 10:28 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 5 Mar 2017 07:59:48 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 3/4/17 11:43 PM,
wrote:
On Sat, 4 Mar 2017 21:49:10 -0500, Alex wrote:

Good guess. .45 auto is an odd cartridge for a revolver.

Holy moon clip Batman ;-)
I think the government made a ****load of M17s so they are not that
"odd" but they do seem to be getting expensive. I remember when they
were $25-30 at Ye Olde Hunter (Interarmco). Now I see them at over a
grand.
I think there were also more than a few W&S MkVIs modified to fire the
.45 auto with a clip. These things were really dirt cheap at YOH, like
$10.

You are referring to the M1917 revolver, as described in Wiki and elsewhe

The M1917 Revolver (formally United States Revolver, Caliber .45, M1917)
was a U.S. six-shot revolver of .45 ACP caliber. It was adopted by the
U.S. Army in 1917 to supplement the standard M1911 .45 ACP
semi-automatic pistol during World War I. Afterwards, it was primarily
used by secondary and non-deployed troops. There were two variations of
the M1917, one made by Colt and the other made by Smith & Wesson.

Or how about:

The .45 ACP (Automatic Colt Pistol), or .45 Auto (11.43×23mm) is a
handgun cartridge designed by John Browning in 1905, for use in his
prototype Colt semi-automatic pistol. After successful military trials
it was adopted along with the Browning .45 Colt handgun as the .45 M1911
cartridge. The handgun was designated M1911 handgun.

Or maybe:

The Smith & Wesson Model 22 series of revolvers is a refined, commercial
version of the M1917 revolver issued during World War I.

The Model 22 was built to directly chamber rimless pistol cartridges
like the .45 ACP and the .45 GAP but allows for use with moon clips.

The Model 22 is a large frame double-action revolver chambered in .45
ACP using half or full moon clips. It may also use .45 Auto Rim as they
were designed for revolvers chambered in .45 ACP or .45 GAP using the
half or full moon clips. Built around Smith & Wesson's large N frame, it
was originally sold as the Model 1950 and is normally fitted with a 5½"
barrel with no under lug and fixed combat sights. Target models are the
models 25 and 26.


Nomenclature...sometimes it gets tricky. :)


Yeah that one, and it wasn't that tricky. You didn't have any problem
googling it up.


My reference was to the .45 ACP nomenclature.


I have already said, that is a dumb thing to argue about. It is as
silly as people banging on about Conway kneeling on the couch or
Sessions shaking hands with ambassadors at a cocktail party.

Keyser Soze March 5th 17 06:11 PM

Yo Harry...sshhh...
 
On 3/5/17 12:58 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 5 Mar 2017 12:39:41 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 3/5/17 10:28 AM,
wrote:
On Sun, 5 Mar 2017 07:59:48 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 3/4/17 11:43 PM,
wrote:
On Sat, 4 Mar 2017 21:49:10 -0500, Alex wrote:

Good guess. .45 auto is an odd cartridge for a revolver.

Holy moon clip Batman ;-)
I think the government made a ****load of M17s so they are not that
"odd" but they do seem to be getting expensive. I remember when they
were $25-30 at Ye Olde Hunter (Interarmco). Now I see them at over a
grand.
I think there were also more than a few W&S MkVIs modified to fire the
.45 auto with a clip. These things were really dirt cheap at YOH, like
$10.

You are referring to the M1917 revolver, as described in Wiki and elsewhe

The M1917 Revolver (formally United States Revolver, Caliber .45, M1917)
was a U.S. six-shot revolver of .45 ACP caliber. It was adopted by the
U.S. Army in 1917 to supplement the standard M1911 .45 ACP
semi-automatic pistol during World War I. Afterwards, it was primarily
used by secondary and non-deployed troops. There were two variations of
the M1917, one made by Colt and the other made by Smith & Wesson.

Or how about:

The .45 ACP (Automatic Colt Pistol), or .45 Auto (11.43×23mm) is a
handgun cartridge designed by John Browning in 1905, for use in his
prototype Colt semi-automatic pistol. After successful military trials
it was adopted along with the Browning .45 Colt handgun as the .45 M1911
cartridge. The handgun was designated M1911 handgun.

Or maybe:

The Smith & Wesson Model 22 series of revolvers is a refined, commercial
version of the M1917 revolver issued during World War I.

The Model 22 was built to directly chamber rimless pistol cartridges
like the .45 ACP and the .45 GAP but allows for use with moon clips.

The Model 22 is a large frame double-action revolver chambered in .45
ACP using half or full moon clips. It may also use .45 Auto Rim as they
were designed for revolvers chambered in .45 ACP or .45 GAP using the
half or full moon clips. Built around Smith & Wesson's large N frame, it
was originally sold as the Model 1950 and is normally fitted with a 5½"
barrel with no under lug and fixed combat sights. Target models are the
models 25 and 26.


Nomenclature...sometimes it gets tricky. :)


Yeah that one, and it wasn't that tricky. You didn't have any problem
googling it up.


My reference was to the .45 ACP nomenclature.


I have already said, that is a dumb thing to argue about. It is as
silly as people banging on about Conway kneeling on the couch or
Sessions shaking hands with ambassadors at a cocktail party.



Speaking of firearms, one of my rural Virginia buddies gave me an early
birthday gift yesterday, a 25 round magazine for my CZ .22LR rifles, the
455 bolt and the 512 semi-auto. I helped him with his resume last year
and he was able to get a job with the county. I doubt the resume made
the difference, but what the hell.

This is the mag:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BYQuN0WYSA

It is one of those firearm thingies that are legal to own and use in
Maryland, but illegal to buy here. My buddy found it at what he says is
a pretty nice gun store "out there." Might be worth a visit to that store.

I really can't pour enough praise on these CZ .22LR rifles...they are
inexpensive, nicely made of good materials, and are very accurate right
out of the box...no need to buy a bunch of pieces and parts to improve
them. :) Oh...and mine came with threaded barrels.

[email protected] March 5th 17 07:42 PM

Yo Harry...sshhh...
 
On Sun, 5 Mar 2017 13:11:38 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:

a 25 round magazine for my CZ .22LR rifles


Do they make a loader for these?
I know when I had my 10-22 loading the magazines was the worst part of
shooting it. I ended up buying the loader and I could load a 25 or a
50 almost as fast as I could shoot it unless I just did a "hold the
trigger down" magazine dump. That would empty a 50 round magazine in
3-4 seconds

Keyser Söze March 5th 17 07:55 PM

Yo Harry...sshhh...
 
wrote:
On Sun, 5 Mar 2017 13:11:38 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:

a 25 round magazine for my CZ .22LR rifles


Do they make a loader for these?
I know when I had my 10-22 loading the magazines was the worst part of
shooting it. I ended up buying the loader and I could load a 25 or a
50 almost as fast as I could shoot it unless I just did a "hold the
trigger down" magazine dump. That would empty a 50 round magazine in
3-4 seconds


I don't know but the spring is really stiff after loading 15 of 25 rounds.
There is no button on the side of the mag, so that sort of loader is
unlikely . Maybe a push down loader?

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