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[email protected] January 15th 17 08:36 PM

BTW ... about your Tacoma Harry ...
 
On Sat, 14 Jan 2017 13:29:20 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Does that have the "shiftless" transmission? The Altima has that and
initially it took a little getting used to. Now I like it. Plenty of
acceleration when you need it, even on the highway when you stomp on it.
After driving the truck mostly, I have been amazed at the gas mileage.


Richard under normal acceleration you don't feel the classic 'bump' of the gears, but if you nail it to get around something, it'll drop down and you hear the engine scream. Now that you mention it, that does seem like an interesting, yet odd arrangement.



If I am just driving along and then suddenly "nail it" the transmission
will very briefly feel like it is slipping while the engine raises in
RPM but then it grabs hard and accelerates the car. It happens so fast
that you don't really realize what just happened.


===

I wonder how it works mechanically, perhaps variable pitch blades in
the torque converter?

Mr. Luddite January 15th 17 09:55 PM

BTW ... about your Tacoma Harry ...
 
On 1/15/2017 3:36 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 14 Jan 2017 13:29:20 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Does that have the "shiftless" transmission? The Altima has that and
initially it took a little getting used to. Now I like it. Plenty of
acceleration when you need it, even on the highway when you stomp on it.
After driving the truck mostly, I have been amazed at the gas mileage.

Richard under normal acceleration you don't feel the classic 'bump' of the gears, but if you nail it to get around something, it'll drop down and you hear the engine scream. Now that you mention it, that does seem like an interesting, yet odd arrangement.



If I am just driving along and then suddenly "nail it" the transmission
will very briefly feel like it is slipping while the engine raises in
RPM but then it grabs hard and accelerates the car. It happens so fast
that you don't really realize what just happened.


===

I wonder how it works mechanically, perhaps variable pitch blades in
the torque converter?



You got me curious as well ... this website explains it pretty well:


https://practicalmotoring.com.au/car-advice/continuously-variable-transmission-explained/

True North[_2_] January 15th 17 10:08 PM

BTW ... about your Tacoma Harry ...
 
On Sunday, 15 January 2017 17:55:44 UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/15/2017 3:36 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 14 Jan 2017 13:29:20 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Does that have the "shiftless" transmission? The Altima has that and
initially it took a little getting used to. Now I like it. Plenty of
acceleration when you need it, even on the highway when you stomp on it.
After driving the truck mostly, I have been amazed at the gas mileage.

Richard under normal acceleration you don't feel the classic 'bump' of the gears, but if you nail it to get around something, it'll drop down and you hear the engine scream. Now that you mention it, that does seem like an interesting, yet odd arrangement.



If I am just driving along and then suddenly "nail it" the transmission
will very briefly feel like it is slipping while the engine raises in
RPM but then it grabs hard and accelerates the car. It happens so fast
that you don't really realize what just happened.


===

I wonder how it works mechanically, perhaps variable pitch blades in
the torque converter?



You got me curious as well ... this website explains it pretty well:


https://practicalmotoring.com.au/car-advice/continuously-variable-transmission-explained/



I've heard the "rubber band" thing before and some of the testers on our car shows up here make a point of saying they don't like the CVT. I'll see how they work out by the time I'm shopping for a new vehicle in about 6-10 years into the future.

Mr. Luddite January 15th 17 10:27 PM

BTW ... about your Tacoma Harry ...
 
On 1/15/2017 5:08 PM, True North wrote:
On Sunday, 15 January 2017 17:55:44 UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/15/2017 3:36 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 14 Jan 2017 13:29:20 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Does that have the "shiftless" transmission? The Altima has that and
initially it took a little getting used to. Now I like it. Plenty of
acceleration when you need it, even on the highway when you stomp on it.
After driving the truck mostly, I have been amazed at the gas mileage.

Richard under normal acceleration you don't feel the classic 'bump' of the gears, but if you nail it to get around something, it'll drop down and you hear the engine scream. Now that you mention it, that does seem like an interesting, yet odd arrangement.



If I am just driving along and then suddenly "nail it" the transmission
will very briefly feel like it is slipping while the engine raises in
RPM but then it grabs hard and accelerates the car. It happens so fast
that you don't really realize what just happened.

===

I wonder how it works mechanically, perhaps variable pitch blades in
the torque converter?



You got me curious as well ... this website explains it pretty well:


https://practicalmotoring.com.au/car-advice/continuously-variable-transmission-explained/




I've heard the "rubber band" thing before and some of the testers on our car shows up here make a point of saying they don't like the CVT. I'll see how they work out by the time I'm shopping for a new vehicle in about 6-10 years into the future.


If you have never driven a car with the CVT transmission it initially
feels odd but after a while you really don't notice the lack of
traditional gear changes. It is much smoother in operation and I can
see how it adds to better gas mileage. The system picks an optimum
engine RPM for the load and adjusts the transmission to an infinitely
variable ratio to best use the torque being developed.


[email protected] January 16th 17 12:35 AM

BTW ... about your Tacoma Harry ...
 
On Sun, 15 Jan 2017 16:55:38 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 1/15/2017 3:36 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 14 Jan 2017 13:29:20 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Does that have the "shiftless" transmission? The Altima has that and
initially it took a little getting used to. Now I like it. Plenty of
acceleration when you need it, even on the highway when you stomp on it.
After driving the truck mostly, I have been amazed at the gas mileage.

Richard under normal acceleration you don't feel the classic 'bump' of the gears, but if you nail it to get around something, it'll drop down and you hear the engine scream. Now that you mention it, that does seem like an interesting, yet odd arrangement.



If I am just driving along and then suddenly "nail it" the transmission
will very briefly feel like it is slipping while the engine raises in
RPM but then it grabs hard and accelerates the car. It happens so fast
that you don't really realize what just happened.


===

I wonder how it works mechanically, perhaps variable pitch blades in
the torque converter?



You got me curious as well ... this website explains it pretty well:


https://practicalmotoring.com.au/car-advice/continuously-variable-transmission-explained/


Standard transmissions are AM and automatics are FM.

[email protected] January 16th 17 02:45 AM

BTW ... about your Tacoma Harry ...
 
On Sun, 15 Jan 2017 16:55:38 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 1/15/2017 3:36 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 14 Jan 2017 13:29:20 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Does that have the "shiftless" transmission? The Altima has that and
initially it took a little getting used to. Now I like it. Plenty of
acceleration when you need it, even on the highway when you stomp on it.
After driving the truck mostly, I have been amazed at the gas mileage.

Richard under normal acceleration you don't feel the classic 'bump' of the gears, but if you nail it to get around something, it'll drop down and you hear the engine scream. Now that you mention it, that does seem like an interesting, yet odd arrangement.



If I am just driving along and then suddenly "nail it" the transmission
will very briefly feel like it is slipping while the engine raises in
RPM but then it grabs hard and accelerates the car. It happens so fast
that you don't really realize what just happened.


===

I wonder how it works mechanically, perhaps variable pitch blades in
the torque converter?



You got me curious as well ... this website explains it pretty well:


https://practicalmotoring.com.au/car-advice/continuously-variable-transmission-explained/


===

Interesting, thanks.

That belt must be super tough.

Califbill January 16th 17 03:33 AM

BTW ... about your Tacoma Harry ...
 
Alex wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Saturday, January 14, 2017 at 4:37:54 AM UTC-6, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/13/2017 11:51 PM, Tim wrote:
On Friday, January 13, 2017 at 4:23:57 PM UTC-6, Poco Loco wrote:
On Fri, 13 Jan 2017 16:41:00 -0500 (EST), justan wrote:

Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 1/13/17 4:16 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/13/2017 4:12 PM, justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 1/13/17 2:40 PM, justan wrote:
"Mr. Luddite" Wrote in message:
I've been doing some research on smaller trucks to replace the F-250 I
have now. The main criteria is something that Mrs.E will feel
comfortable driving (meaning smaller) yet still has the tow
capacity to
handle the little camper she bought last summer. Ideal would be a tow
capacity of 5K to 6K lbs to tow the little 4K lb. camper.

I happened to be looking at the Tacoma and recalled you posting that
yours is rated to tow 6,400 lbs. You also have said you have the four
cylinder, 4x4 with a manual transmission.

You might want to verify your tow rating for that configuration.
According to Toyota, it is only rated to tow 3,500 lbs. (2016 model
specs).

That ought to be able to haul a 20 ft Pahkah, his last known,
(thought to be real), boat.

And once again, you display your ignorance. The boat with engine and
gear and fuel was about 3400 pounds, and the trailer added substantially
to that, putting the weight of the full rig way over 3,500 pounds. Stick
to what you know, whatever that might be.

You agree with Luddite's findings then? You overstated your
capacity by a whopping 3000 pounds. Almost twice the real
capacity. I'm wondering if you know anything that really
matters.


I could have sworn that he told us that his Tacoma had the four cylinder
rather than the V6 but apparently I was wrong. The Tacoma with the V6
and the tow package is indeed rated for 6400 lbs towing.
No, I wouldn't have bought a four-cylinder gasoline engine truck. I am,
however, very impressed with the four-cylinder engine in my wife's
Toyota Camry and probably wouldn't consider a car with a V-6 or V-8. The
Camry is peppy, and cruises at interstate speed limits with the engine
loafing.

My new car has a v6. A 2.2 litre 4 with a turbo doesn' t meet my
requirements for the vehicle. Gas mileage is better than my
wife's crv. Go figure.
My wife got the top of the line Subaru to replace the VW diesel. Took
it on the trip to Tampa. Very
nice to drive and quite peppy with the four cylinder. In cruise control it
automatically slows when
pulling up behind a slower mover, then speeds back up when the lane
is changed. Hell, there's
nothing to do but keep the damn thing between the lines. And, without
a signal on, the thing beeps
at you when you get too close to a line. Got right around 30mpg for the trip.
wifes 2016 Honda CRV has all the 4cyl pep you need and gets 32-36 with
cruise locked on 65

Does that have the "shiftless" transmission? The Altima has that and
initially it took a little getting used to. Now I like it. Plenty of
acceleration when you need it, even on the highway when you stomp on it.
After driving the truck mostly, I have been amazed at the gas mileage.

Richard under normal acceleration you don't feel the classic 'bump' of
the gears, but if you nail it to get around something, it'll drop down
and you hear the engine scream. Now that you mention it, that does seem
like an interesting, yet odd arrangement.


I rented a Murano with the CVT and it was strange but very smooth!


Do not know the design of the car CVT, but my Evenrude snowmobile had a CVT
belt drive. Pulleys changed diameter with speed.


Califbill January 16th 17 03:33 AM

BTW ... about your Tacoma Harry ...
 
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 1/14/17 1:03 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sat, 14 Jan 2017 09:00:07 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 1/14/17 8:43 AM, Its Me wrote:
On Saturday, January 14, 2017 at 8:28:52 AM UTC-5, Keyser Soze wrote:




My truck is quiet enough for me to listen to my favorite classical music
at moderate sound pressure levels. It'll do 0-60 in under 8 seconds and
probably closer to 7, fast enough for a pickup truck.

The tests of your truck report 0-60 times of *over* 8 seconds, with
professional drivers.


I beat 8 seconds several times once the truck had 5000 miles on it, and
I'm not the word's best shifter on the manual tranny.

Incidentally, you boychiks left out the best parts of the CR review, the
reasons why the Tacoma is the leading seller in its class:

"While full-sized pickup trucks increasingly adopt luxury trappings,
compact trucks remain utilitarian workhorses. The Tacoma is a reliable
but down-and-dirty example of function trumping form.


'Simply put, the Tacoma is the perfect truck for landscapers and
contractors.


"This beast of burden has a bulletproof reliability track record, a
tough-as-nails chassis, and a durable composite-Â*plastic bed. For
off-roading adventures, the capable Tacoma has few peers.

"True to its heritage as a work truck, the Tacoma admirably tolerates
those sorts of duties. It trundled up our rock hill with ease. The
damped tailgate is a charm to lower but a chore to raise. And though it
varies based on the body and powerÂ*train, our truck is rated to tow
6,400 pounds—that’s a 23-foot Airstream trailer, folks."

Have nice day, truck poseurs.


I posted the funny part - which is what made a great review of a mediocre truck.


No, **** for brains, the Tacoma is a great *truck* but it is a lousy
sports car. I bought it because of its truck abilities and how it
matched my particular truck needs. And unlike that p.o.s. oversized
truck you don't drive much because of its size and fuel burn, I get
pretty decent mileage.


John's truck gets decent milage, especially highway. Mine gets 19 freeway,
and the newer ones with a 6 speed get about 21-22. Around town parking is
why wife does not care to take the truck when we go to San Diego. Also
hauls lots more stuff. Tacoma is good for your use. Same as I told one
son in law few years ago. Get a Tacoma extended cab, no 4x4 and will do
you for years. I am thinking of getting a Chevy Volt for around town.
Cents to use the car pool lanes, and goes 50 miles on a charge. And
electric rate for the night use goes down by 2/3rds if you have a plug-in
vehicle.

justan January 16th 17 03:42 AM

BTW ... about your Tacoma Harry ...
 
Califbill Wrote in message:
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 1/14/17 1:03 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sat, 14 Jan 2017 09:00:07 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 1/14/17 8:43 AM, Its Me wrote:
On Saturday, January 14, 2017 at 8:28:52 AM UTC-5, Keyser Soze wrote:




My truck is quiet enough for me to listen to my favorite classical music
at moderate sound pressure levels. It'll do 0-60 in under 8 seconds and
probably closer to 7, fast enough for a pickup truck.

The tests of your truck report 0-60 times of *over* 8 seconds, with
professional drivers.


I beat 8 seconds several times once the truck had 5000 miles on it, and
I'm not the word's best shifter on the manual tranny.

Incidentally, you boychiks left out the best parts of the CR review, the
reasons why the Tacoma is the leading seller in its class:

"While full-sized pickup trucks increasingly adopt luxury trappings,
compact trucks remain utilitarian workhorses. The Tacoma is a reliable
but down-and-dirty example of function trumping form.


'Simply put, the Tacoma is the perfect truck for landscapers and
contractors.


"This beast of burden has a bulletproof reliability track record, a
tough-as-nails chassis, and a durable composite-*plastic bed. For
off-roading adventures, the capable Tacoma has few peers.

"True to its heritage as a work truck, the Tacoma admirably tolerates
those sorts of duties. It trundled up our rock hill with ease. The
damped tailgate is a charm to lower but a chore to raise. And though it
varies based on the body and power*train, our truck is rated to tow
6,400 poundsthats a 23-foot Airstream trailer, folks."

Have nice day, truck poseurs.


I posted the funny part - which is what made a great review of a mediocre truck.


No, **** for brains, the Tacoma is a great *truck* but it is a lousy
sports car. I bought it because of its truck abilities and how it
matched my particular truck needs. And unlike that p.o.s. oversized
truck you don't drive much because of its size and fuel burn, I get
pretty decent mileage.


John's truck gets decent milage, especially highway. Mine gets 19 freeway,
and the newer ones with a 6 speed get about 21-22. Around town parking is
why wife does not care to take the truck when we go to San Diego. Also
hauls lots more stuff. Tacoma is good for your use. Same as I told one
son in law few years ago. Get a Tacoma extended cab, no 4x4 and will do
you for years. I am thinking of getting a Chevy Volt for around town.
Cents to use the car pool lanes, and goes 50 miles on a charge. And
electric rate for the night use goes down by 2/3rds if you have a plug-in
vehicle.


Harry got the 4x4 because his redneck image demanded it. He bought
the thing to haul mulch once a year? And what else? Harry's
stories are rediculous.
--
x

RGrew176 January 16th 17 06:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Luddite (Post 1074876)
On 1/13/2017 11:35 PM, RGrew176 wrote:
Mr. Luddite;1074809 Wrote:
I've been doing some research on smaller trucks to replace the F-250 I
have now. The main criteria is something that Mrs.E will feel
comfortable driving (meaning smaller) yet still has the tow capacity to

handle the little camper she bought last summer. Ideal would be a tow
capacity of 5K to 6K lbs to tow the little 4K lb. camper.

I happened to be looking at the Tacoma and recalled you posting that
yours is rated to tow 6,400 lbs. You also have said you have the four
cylinder, 4x4 with a manual transmission.

You might want to verify your tow rating for that configuration.
According to Toyota, it is only rated to tow 3,500 lbs. (2016 model
specs).




To bad you can't wait until 2019. Ford has a new Ranger pickup coming
out then. A new Bronco is coming out in 2020 and the F-150 will be
getting a 3.0L Powerstroke diesel in 2018. I think down the road that
3.0 diesel will find its way into other Ford products such as the
Ranger, Bronco, Expedition and Explorer.


Is that when the new Ranger is debuting? I'd actually like to wait and
see because according to the press release I saw it will be a
"mid-sized" truck. I really liked the Ranger as did a lot of other
people. You certainly see a lot of them on the road. The problem is
that I am not so sure her Mountaineer will last that long. She uses it
a lot and it has about 175K miles on it now.

The only bad experience I've ever had with Ford products was the 2005
F-350 diesel (6.0L) and it's problems were all related to the
International engine. If those problems hadn't existed I'd probably
still be driving it now.

Probably sometime in 2018. It will be a mid-sized truck. It is bigger than the original. The new Bronco will be built off the new Ranger platform.


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