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On 1/11/2017 8:57 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 1/11/17 8:08 AM, Tim wrote: On Wednesday, January 11, 2017 at 5:51:12 AM UTC-6, Keyser Soze wrote: On 1/11/17 12:35 AM, wrote: On Tue, 10 Jan 2017 13:15:36 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: Trump, as they are both rapists of underaged girls. If you believe unsubstantiated allegations Hillary killed a bunch of people. (Vince Foster, Ron Brown and 44 others) That is why we wait for trials and proof. According to the witness against Trump, her life was threatened by Trumpsters and she withdrew the legal action. Trump and a buddy participated in the rape of the girl, and the buddy has the rep for deviant sexual behavior. There are some interestingly juicy rumors coming from the Russkis about Trump's deviant sexual practices with prostitutes in their country. One can only hope they turn out to be true. Oh, and some sleazy financial dealings reports, too. I'm just...shocked. "There are some interestingly juicy rumors coming from the Russkis about Trump's deviant sexual practices with prostitutes in their country. One can only hope they turn out to be true. Oh, and some sleazy financial dealings reports, too. I'm just...shocked." You mean like out of the cheap tabloids at the grocery checkout? Theres a wide crevasse between rumor and fact. No, Timmy, from the intel reports given to Trump in the last week, though I suppose they'll appear in your news source, the tabloids, soon enough. Apparently President Elect Pussygrabber has been a naughty boy in Russia. You may want to be a little more reserved in spreading your juicy gossip. MSNBC ... not exactly a pillar of conservatism ... just broke the news that the 2 page intel report regarding Trump's alleged connection to Russia was *not* presented to Trump (the media originally claimed he had been "briefed" on it's contents) and, in fact, the only purpose it existed was to demonstrate to Trump, if necessary, the type of unverified and unsourced info that is *not* considered or used by the intel agencies and what it looks like. In the briefing with Trump it was determined that it was not necessary to present it and it was not. So, seems the Donald told the truth when he said he was not briefed on anything related to "dirt" Russia has on him. Plus, there was a story about a Trump guy secretly meeting with the Russians in Prague during the campaign, suggesting some kind of behind the scenes dealings. Turns out it never happened. The guy has never been to Prague in his life. |
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On 1/11/2017 9:39 AM, Tim wrote:
7:57 AMKeyser Soze On 1/11/17 8:08 AM, Tim wrote: On Wednesday, January 11, 2017 at 5:51:12 AM UTC-6, Keyser Soze wrote: On 1/11/17 12:35 AM, wrote: On Tue, 10 Jan 2017 13:15:36 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: Trump, as they are both rapists of underaged girls. If you believe unsubstantiated allegations Hillary killed a bunch of people. (Vince Foster, Ron Brown and 44 others) That is why we wait for trials and proof. According to the witness against Trump, her life was threatened by Trumpsters and she withdrew the legal action. Trump and a buddy participated in the rape of the girl, and the buddy has the rep for deviant sexual behavior. There are some interestingly juicy rumors coming from the Russkis about Trump's deviant sexual practices with prostitutes in their country. One can only hope they turn out to be true. Oh, and some sleazy financial dealings reports, too. I'm just...shocked. "There are some interestingly juicy rumors coming from the Russkis about Trump's deviant sexual practices with prostitutes in their country. One can only hope they turn out to be true. Oh, and some sleazy financial dealings reports, too. I'm just...shocked." You mean like out of the cheap tabloids at the grocery checkout? Theres a wide crevasse between rumor and fact. No, Timmy, from the intel reports given to Trump in the last week, though I suppose they'll appear in your news source, the tabloids, soon enough. Apparently President Elect Pussygrabber has been a naughty boy in Russia. .... Oh well. Ben Franklin did a lot more than that in the afresh whore houses and nobody says a word. Harry you've bragged about your sexual escapades. Nobody seems to care less about that either. So evidently you rate up there with Ben Franklin. Don't listen to Harry. None of this BS is true, as much as he would like it to be. The intel reports Harry claims were given to Trump were *not* given to him and only existed to show Trump what an unverified story looks like that intel would *not* consider as being worthy of consideration, if it was felt it was necessary. It turns out they never even brought it up in the briefing. |
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On 1/11/17 9:50 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/11/2017 8:57 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 1/11/17 8:08 AM, Tim wrote: On Wednesday, January 11, 2017 at 5:51:12 AM UTC-6, Keyser Soze wrote: On 1/11/17 12:35 AM, wrote: On Tue, 10 Jan 2017 13:15:36 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: Trump, as they are both rapists of underaged girls. If you believe unsubstantiated allegations Hillary killed a bunch of people. (Vince Foster, Ron Brown and 44 others) That is why we wait for trials and proof. According to the witness against Trump, her life was threatened by Trumpsters and she withdrew the legal action. Trump and a buddy participated in the rape of the girl, and the buddy has the rep for deviant sexual behavior. There are some interestingly juicy rumors coming from the Russkis about Trump's deviant sexual practices with prostitutes in their country. One can only hope they turn out to be true. Oh, and some sleazy financial dealings reports, too. I'm just...shocked. "There are some interestingly juicy rumors coming from the Russkis about Trump's deviant sexual practices with prostitutes in their country. One can only hope they turn out to be true. Oh, and some sleazy financial dealings reports, too. I'm just...shocked." You mean like out of the cheap tabloids at the grocery checkout? Theres a wide crevasse between rumor and fact. No, Timmy, from the intel reports given to Trump in the last week, though I suppose they'll appear in your news source, the tabloids, soon enough. Apparently President Elect Pussygrabber has been a naughty boy in Russia. You may want to be a little more reserved in spreading your juicy gossip. MSNBC ... not exactly a pillar of conservatism ... just broke the news that the 2 page intel report regarding Trump's alleged connection to Russia was *not* presented to Trump (the media originally claimed he had been "briefed" on it's contents) and, in fact, the only purpose it existed was to demonstrate to Trump, if necessary, the type of unverified and unsourced info that is *not* considered or used by the intel agencies and what it looks like. In the briefing with Trump it was determined that it was not necessary to present it and it was not. So, seems the Donald told the truth when he said he was not briefed on anything related to "dirt" Russia has on him. Plus, there was a story about a Trump guy secretly meeting with the Russians in Prague during the campaign, suggesting some kind of behind the scenes dealings. Turns out it never happened. The guy has never been to Prague in his life. Uh huh. I wonder if Trump's news conference will have a live stream. It's a golden opportunity. :) |
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8:57 AMMr. Luddite
- show quoted text - This is hilarious. CNN got wind of a special "two page report" that intel had and went wild with it, claiming all kinds of things and that Trump had been fully briefed on it's contents. Problem is, it never happened. The Russians aren't our primary enemy or threat. The liberal news media in the USA is. ...,, I think that's why Donald loves his twitters because what he says goes direct and cuts out the muck machines... |
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On 1/11/17 11:02 AM, Tim wrote:
8:57 AMMr. Luddite - show quoted text - This is hilarious. CNN got wind of a special "two page report" that intel had and went wild with it, claiming all kinds of things and that Trump had been fully briefed on it's contents. Problem is, it never happened. The Russians aren't our primary enemy or threat. The liberal news media in the USA is. ..,, I think that's why Donald loves his twitters because what he says goes direct and cuts out the muck machines... Trump likes twitter because he can lie at will and not be directly questioned in real time. |
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On Wed, 11 Jan 2017 06:51:05 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote: On 1/11/17 12:35 AM, wrote: On Tue, 10 Jan 2017 13:15:36 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: Trump, as they are both rapists of underaged girls. If you believe unsubstantiated allegations Hillary killed a bunch of people. (Vince Foster, Ron Brown and 44 others) That is why we wait for trials and proof. According to the witness against Trump, her life was threatened by Trumpsters and she withdrew the legal action. Trump and a buddy participated in the rape of the girl, and the buddy has the rep for deviant sexual behavior. There are some interestingly juicy rumors coming from the Russkis about Trump's deviant sexual practices with prostitutes in their country. One can only hope they turn out to be true. Oh, and some sleazy financial dealings reports, too. I'm just...shocked. Wild accusations during a political campaign,. I'm shocked too. I am not defending Trump but I am also not jumping on every strange 20-30 year old accusation and calling it a fact. It is a little odd that if NBC knew this, they would have given him his own show and pimped him up during the early campaign but I have already addressed that. |
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On Wed, 11 Jan 2017 08:57:37 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote: On 1/11/17 8:08 AM, Tim wrote: On Wednesday, January 11, 2017 at 5:51:12 AM UTC-6, Keyser Soze wrote: On 1/11/17 12:35 AM, wrote: On Tue, 10 Jan 2017 13:15:36 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: Trump, as they are both rapists of underaged girls. If you believe unsubstantiated allegations Hillary killed a bunch of people. (Vince Foster, Ron Brown and 44 others) That is why we wait for trials and proof. According to the witness against Trump, her life was threatened by Trumpsters and she withdrew the legal action. Trump and a buddy participated in the rape of the girl, and the buddy has the rep for deviant sexual behavior. There are some interestingly juicy rumors coming from the Russkis about Trump's deviant sexual practices with prostitutes in their country. One can only hope they turn out to be true. Oh, and some sleazy financial dealings reports, too. I'm just...shocked. "There are some interestingly juicy rumors coming from the Russkis about Trump's deviant sexual practices with prostitutes in their country. One can only hope they turn out to be true. Oh, and some sleazy financial dealings reports, too. I'm just...shocked." You mean like out of the cheap tabloids at the grocery checkout? Theres a wide crevasse between rumor and fact. No, Timmy, from the intel reports given to Trump in the last week, though I suppose they'll appear in your news source, the tabloids, soon enough. Apparently President Elect Pussygrabber has been a naughty boy in Russia. Isn't that why people pay for hookers? |
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On 1/11/17 11:47 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 11 Jan 2017 08:57:37 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: On 1/11/17 8:08 AM, Tim wrote: On Wednesday, January 11, 2017 at 5:51:12 AM UTC-6, Keyser Soze wrote: On 1/11/17 12:35 AM, wrote: On Tue, 10 Jan 2017 13:15:36 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: Trump, as they are both rapists of underaged girls. If you believe unsubstantiated allegations Hillary killed a bunch of people. (Vince Foster, Ron Brown and 44 others) That is why we wait for trials and proof. According to the witness against Trump, her life was threatened by Trumpsters and she withdrew the legal action. Trump and a buddy participated in the rape of the girl, and the buddy has the rep for deviant sexual behavior. There are some interestingly juicy rumors coming from the Russkis about Trump's deviant sexual practices with prostitutes in their country. One can only hope they turn out to be true. Oh, and some sleazy financial dealings reports, too. I'm just...shocked. "There are some interestingly juicy rumors coming from the Russkis about Trump's deviant sexual practices with prostitutes in their country. One can only hope they turn out to be true. Oh, and some sleazy financial dealings reports, too. I'm just...shocked." You mean like out of the cheap tabloids at the grocery checkout? Theres a wide crevasse between rumor and fact. No, Timmy, from the intel reports given to Trump in the last week, though I suppose they'll appear in your news source, the tabloids, soon enough. Apparently President Elect Pussygrabber has been a naughty boy in Russia. Isn't that why people pay for hookers? It knocks him off any "high moral ground pedestal" he might seek. |
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8:53 AMMr. Luddite
- show quoted text - Don't listen to Harry. None of this BS is true, as much as he would like it to be. ... ..... Richard it is hard to put stock into someone who's angry most of the time. |
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On 1/11/17 11:58 AM, Tim wrote:
8:53 AMMr. Luddite - show quoted text - Don't listen to Harry. None of this BS is true, as much as he would like it to be. ... .... Richard it is hard to put stock into someone who's angry most of the time. That would be Donald Trump |
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On Wednesday, January 11, 2017 at 11:24:34 AM UTC-5, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 1/11/17 11:02 AM, Tim wrote: 8:57 AMMr. Luddite - show quoted text - This is hilarious. CNN got wind of a special "two page report" that intel had and went wild with it, claiming all kinds of things and that Trump had been fully briefed on it's contents. Problem is, it never happened. The Russians aren't our primary enemy or threat. The liberal news media in the USA is. ..,, I think that's why Donald loves his twitters because what he says goes direct and cuts out the muck machines... Trump likes twitter because he can lie at will and not be directly questioned in real time. Harry likes rec.boats because he can lie at will and not be directly questioned in real time. |
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On Wed, 11 Jan 2017 09:56:48 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: The Russians aren't our primary enemy or threat. The liberal news media in the USA is. I tend to agree. I think cold warriors like McCain are more of a threat to peace than Putin. If it wasn't for the russians, the US would have 100,000 troops in Syria and ISIS would still hold most of the cities. I find it odd that the same people who complain about the russian bombings were silent when it was Bush/Clinton/Bush doing it in Iraq. (in the "no fly zone" days) We simply denied it when they said up to 250,000 people died. We should also note that if we were not getting a ride from the russians we would not have a manned space program. Maybe it is time to admit, we are both stronger together than we are fighting with each other. If Trump can make that happen, we are all better off. |
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On 1/11/2017 11:59 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 1/11/17 11:58 AM, Tim wrote: 8:53 AMMr. Luddite - show quoted text - Don't listen to Harry. None of this BS is true, as much as he would like it to be. ... .... Richard it is hard to put stock into someone who's angry most of the time. That would be Donald Trump Harry, maybe you should find another star to wish upon. When you wish upon a star Makes no difference who you are Anything your heart desires Will come to you |
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10:59 AMKeyser Soze
- show quoted text - That would be Donald Trump .... Harry, Trumps not on rec boats, but you are. I think you ought to run for president. Really! |
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On Wed, 11 Jan 2017 11:53:37 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote: Isn't that why people pay for hookers? It knocks him off any "high moral ground pedestal" he might seek. Who said he had morals? Trump was a business man. Now he is on his way to the White House. Both are occupations where morals and success seldom collide. Our most successful presidents were amoral sombitches. Moral guys like Carter had their self righteous ass handed to them. |
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On Wed, 11 Jan 2017 11:53:37 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: Isn't that why people pay for hookers? It knocks him off any "high moral ground pedestal" he might seek. Who said he had morals? Trump was a business man. .... Greg, I think you just broke the internets with that one. Or, maybe it was Richards wish upon a star comment. Flip a coin. Lol! |
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On 1/11/17 12:52 PM, Tim wrote:
11:37 On Wed, 11 Jan 2017 11:53:37 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: Isn't that why people pay for hookers? It knocks him off any "high moral ground pedestal" he might seek. Who said he had morals? Trump was a business man. ... Greg, I think you just broke the internets with that one. Or, maybe it was Richards wish upon a star comment. Flip a coin. Lol! Based on what Trump said about how his various businesses are to be handled, and how little regard he has for our intel services, I see nothing but ethical and security problems ahead for President Elect Pig Vomit. |
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Boating All Out wrote:
In article , says... The Russians aren't our primary enemy or threat. The liberal news media in the USA is. Well, some did participate in spreading the GOP lie about HRC being the devil incarnate. That allowed the mob to elect Trump. Despite being beaten by 3 million votes. But this is just the beginning of your woes. Your chickens come have home to roost. Get used to the cackling. You can't silence them. Nor can you silence Trump's big mouth. He's your President. 3 million votes. 3 NY Burroughs. Trump took 85% of the country geographically. Maybe go back to only landowners can vote. |
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On Wed, 11 Jan 2017 13:12:04 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote: Based on what Trump said about how his various businesses are to be handled, and how little regard he has for our intel services, I see nothing but ethical and security problems ahead for President Elect Pig Vomit. === That should be enough to earn you a spot on the internment and re-education list. |
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On 1/11/17 2:05 PM, Califbill wrote:
Boating All Out wrote: In article , says... The Russians aren't our primary enemy or threat. The liberal news media in the USA is. Well, some did participate in spreading the GOP lie about HRC being the devil incarnate. That allowed the mob to elect Trump. Despite being beaten by 3 million votes. But this is just the beginning of your woes. Your chickens come have home to roost. Get used to the cackling. You can't silence them. Nor can you silence Trump's big mouth. He's your President. 3 million votes. 3 NY Burroughs. Trump took 85% of the country geographically. Maybe go back to only landowners can vote. You're some piece of right-wing work. There's no doubt you've never read the Constitution or the 14th Amendment. Of course, your president-election, Pig Vomit Trump, hasn't read the Constitution, either. |
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On 1/11/17 2:55 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 11 Jan 2017 13:12:04 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: Based on what Trump said about how his various businesses are to be handled, and how little regard he has for our intel services, I see nothing but ethical and security problems ahead for President Elect Pig Vomit. === That should be enough to earn you a spot on the internment and re-education list. I'll have to dig up a used Mao hat. http://tinyurl.com/hxpxozj If Trump doesn't change his tune on those aspects, he is in for endless serious problems. Of course, he was already in line for grief for those, but there are elected members of his party who may hold his tiny feet to the fire on these issues. |
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On Wed, 11 Jan 2017 13:12:04 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: Based on what Trump said about how his various businesses are to be handled, and how little regard he has for our intel services, I see nothing but ethical and security problems ahead for President Elect Pig Vomit. === That should be enough to earn you a spot on the internment and re-education list. What is hilarious about Harry's comment, is he supported Hillary, who ignored all security protocols. |
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2:53 PMKeyser Soze
- show quoted text - I'll have to dig up a used Mao hat. http://tinyurl.com/hxpxozj If Trump doesn't change his tune on those aspects, he is in for endless serious problems. Of course, he was already in line for grief for those, but there are elected members of his party who may hold his tiny feet to the fire on these issues. ..... Harry I believe tha as long as trump is president or at least another another conservative then *your* party is in for endless problems... |
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Tim wrote:
2:53 PMKeyser Soze - show quoted text - I'll have to dig up a used Mao hat. http://tinyurl.com/hxpxozj If Trump doesn't change his tune on those aspects, he is in for endless serious problems. Of course, he was already in line for grief for those, but there are elected members of his party who may hold his tiny feet to the fire on these issues. .... Harry I believe tha as long as trump is president or at least another another conservative then *your* party is in for endless problems... Trump is a conservative? He's talking about tariffs? -- Posted with my iPhone 7+. |
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4:21 PMKeyser Söze
- show quoted text - Trump is a conservative? He's talking about tariffs? -- Posted with my iPhone 7+. .... Sure. Reagan did... |
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Keyser Soze wrote:
On 1/11/17 2:05 PM, Califbill wrote: Boating All Out wrote: In article , says... The Russians aren't our primary enemy or threat. The liberal news media in the USA is. Well, some did participate in spreading the GOP lie about HRC being the devil incarnate. That allowed the mob to elect Trump. Despite being beaten by 3 million votes. But this is just the beginning of your woes. Your chickens come have home to roost. Get used to the cackling. You can't silence them. Nor can you silence Trump's big mouth. He's your President. 3 million votes. 3 NY Burroughs. Trump took 85% of the country geographically. Maybe go back to only landowners can vote. You're some piece of right-wing work. There's no doubt you've never read the Constitution or the 14th Amendment. Of course, your president-election, Pig Vomit Trump, hasn't read the Constitution, either. Right wing fiscally. Leftist on social. People saying Hillary won the popular vote. BFD! Th founders of the country made the small fly over country relevant! Maybe you should have studied the Constitution and what lead up to the wording. |
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On 1/11/17 5:27 PM, Tim wrote:
Sure. Reagan did... Trump is a populist of the expediency who will sell out anyone for any reason. He has no core beliefs other than doing whatever it takes to make a buck. |
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On 1/11/17 6:31 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote: On 1/11/17 2:05 PM, Califbill wrote: Boating All Out wrote: In article , says... The Russians aren't our primary enemy or threat. The liberal news media in the USA is. Well, some did participate in spreading the GOP lie about HRC being the devil incarnate. That allowed the mob to elect Trump. Despite being beaten by 3 million votes. But this is just the beginning of your woes. Your chickens come have home to roost. Get used to the cackling. You can't silence them. Nor can you silence Trump's big mouth. He's your President. 3 million votes. 3 NY Burroughs. Trump took 85% of the country geographically. Maybe go back to only landowners can vote. You're some piece of right-wing work. There's no doubt you've never read the Constitution or the 14th Amendment. Of course, your president-election, Pig Vomit Trump, hasn't read the Constitution, either. Right wing fiscally. Leftist on social. People saying Hillary won the popular vote. BFD! Th founders of the country made the small fly over country relevant! Maybe you should have studied the Constitution and what lead up to the wording. I have. It was a way to placate the South's slaveowners. |
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Keyser Soze wrote:
On 1/11/17 6:31 PM, Califbill wrote: Keyser Soze wrote: On 1/11/17 2:05 PM, Califbill wrote: Boating All Out wrote: In article , says... The Russians aren't our primary enemy or threat. The liberal news media in the USA is. Well, some did participate in spreading the GOP lie about HRC being the devil incarnate. That allowed the mob to elect Trump. Despite being beaten by 3 million votes. But this is just the beginning of your woes. Your chickens come have home to roost. Get used to the cackling. You can't silence them. Nor can you silence Trump's big mouth. He's your President. 3 million votes. 3 NY Burroughs. Trump took 85% of the country geographically. Maybe go back to only landowners can vote. You're some piece of right-wing work. There's no doubt you've never read the Constitution or the 14th Amendment. Of course, your president-election, Pig Vomit Trump, hasn't read the Constitution, either. Right wing fiscally. Leftist on social. People saying Hillary won the popular vote. BFD! Th founders of the country made the small fly over country relevant! Maybe you should have studied the Constitution and what lead up to the wording. I have. It was a way to placate the South's slaveowners. Sounds like you are confused with the uncivil war. Even England had slaves in 1775. |
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On Wed, 11 Jan 2017 18:42:35 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote: Right wing fiscally. Leftist on social. People saying Hillary won the popular vote. BFD! Th founders of the country made the small fly over country relevant! Maybe you should have studied the Constitution and what lead up to the wording. I have. It was a way to placate the South's slaveowners. That is revisionist bull**** The interesting thing about that is there was never an election that broke down on north/south lines until 1860 so the founder's plan seemed to work fairly well until then, It also shows those "southern slave owners" did not get much political power from the EC. Then you have the simple fact, the majority of southerners did not own any slaves. |
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On Wed, 11 Jan 2017 18:42:35 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: Right wing fiscally. Leftist on social. People saying Hillary won the popular vote. BFD! Th founders of the country made the small fly over country relevant! Maybe you should have studied the Constitution and what lead up to the wording. I have. It was a way to placate the South's slaveowners. That is revisionist bull**** The interesting thing about that is there was never an election that broke down on north/south lines until 1860 so the founder's plan seemed to work fairly well until then, It also shows those "southern slave owners" did not get much political power from the EC. Then you have the simple fact, the majority of southerners did not own any slaves. Slavery was almost done in the US. Was not financially viable. And then the Cotton Gin was invented. Made slavery very profitable. If a mechanical Cotton picker had been invented, then slavery would have died a natural death, and no Civil War. |
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On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 00:22:28 -0600, Califbill
wrote: I have. It was a way to placate the South's slaveowners. That is revisionist bull**** The interesting thing about that is there was never an election that broke down on north/south lines until 1860 so the founder's plan seemed to work fairly well until then, It also shows those "southern slave owners" did not get much political power from the EC. Then you have the simple fact, the majority of southerners did not own any slaves. Slavery was almost done in the US. Was not financially viable. And then the Cotton Gin was invented. Made slavery very profitable. If a mechanical Cotton picker had been invented, then slavery would have died a natural death, and no Civil War. Guys like Harry ignore the fact that the cotton industry thrived after the civil war and the economics didn't really change that much, nor did the overall cost of labor nor the actual living conditions of the black field workers. They were "free" but they also became responsible for their living expenses that their wages barely covered. The main difference is they had the opportunity to move north and be exploited by northern racists in slave wage sweatshops. |
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On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 00:22:28 -0600, Califbill wrote: I have. It was a way to placate the South's slaveowners. That is revisionist bull**** The interesting thing about that is there was never an election that broke down on north/south lines until 1860 so the founder's plan seemed to work fairly well until then, It also shows those "southern slave owners" did not get much political power from the EC. Then you have the simple fact, the majority of southerners did not own any slaves. Slavery was almost done in the US. Was not financially viable. And then the Cotton Gin was invented. Made slavery very profitable. If a mechanical Cotton picker had been invented, then slavery would have died a natural death, and no Civil War. Guys like Harry ignore the fact that the cotton industry thrived after the civil war and the economics didn't really change that much, nor did the overall cost of labor nor the actual living conditions of the black field workers. They were "free" but they also became responsible for their living expenses that their wages barely covered. The main difference is they had the opportunity to move north and be exploited by northern racists in slave wage sweatshops. There are suppositions that the Underground Railroad was partly financed by northern industrialists, to get cheap labor. |
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On 1/11/17 4:22 PM, Tim wrote:
2:53 PMKeyser Soze - show quoted text - I'll have to dig up a used Mao hat. http://tinyurl.com/hxpxozj If Trump doesn't change his tune on those aspects, he is in for endless serious problems. Of course, he was already in line for grief for those, but there are elected members of his party who may hold his tiny feet to the fire on these issues. .... Harry I believe tha as long as trump is president or at least another another conservative then *your* party is in for endless problems... No, Tim, it is the lower income classes who are "in" for endless problems, because Trump and the Repugnants will **** them royally over and over in order to line the pockets of the wealthy. |
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On Thursday, January 12, 2017 at 5:37:40 AM UTC-6, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 1/11/17 4:22 PM, Tim wrote: 2:53 PMKeyser Soze - show quoted text - I'll have to dig up a used Mao hat. http://tinyurl.com/hxpxozj If Trump doesn't change his tune on those aspects, he is in for endless serious problems. Of course, he was already in line for grief for those, but there are elected members of his party who may hold his tiny feet to the fire on these issues. .... Harry I believe tha as long as trump is president or at least another another conservative then *your* party is in for endless problems... No, Tim, it is the lower income classes who are "in" for endless problems, because Trump and the ans will **** them royally over and over in order to line the pockets of the wealthy. Harry, the 'lower income classes' have had 'endless problems' for years. We get stuck fighting the wars and paying the bills while annually, more strife and debt gets piled on our shoulders. Maybe haven't noticed but over the centuries, that's how it seems to work. You can always count on the middle/little guy taking the porking. Always. The last guy from *your* party wasn't a champion for the "lower income classes" causes either. So, whats new... |
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On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 06:17:31 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote: On 1/12/17 12:09 AM, wrote: On Wed, 11 Jan 2017 18:42:35 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: Right wing fiscally. Leftist on social. People saying Hillary won the popular vote. BFD! Th founders of the country made the small fly over country relevant! Maybe you should have studied the Constitution and what lead up to the wording. I have. It was a way to placate the South's slaveowners. That is revisionist bull**** Sorry, but I'm not willing to accept the opinions and ruminations of a totally uncredentialed, self-described "historian" who thinks slavery should have continued beyond the Civil War. Are you just acting stupid or do you have reading comprehension problems? My contention is that slavery would have fallen from it's own weight if the north and the europeans you hold in such high regard had simply refused to buy slave produced goods. It was a financially driven institution and if the finances stopped making sense, the institution would have failed. After the war the actual conditions for the freed slaves did not change much. Certainly they had the option to quit their job after 1865 but they did not have much opportunity to do anything else. Most stayed on as share croppers or slave wage employees. Living conditions, job safety and actual take home wages were not any better in the coal mines or sweat shops that were staffed by "free men" up north and that continued well into the 20th century (some say even now). |
Wow Piers!
On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 06:37:39 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote: On 1/11/17 4:22 PM, Tim wrote: 2:53 PMKeyser Soze - show quoted text - I'll have to dig up a used Mao hat. http://tinyurl.com/hxpxozj If Trump doesn't change his tune on those aspects, he is in for endless serious problems. Of course, he was already in line for grief for those, but there are elected members of his party who may hold his tiny feet to the fire on these issues. .... Harry I believe tha as long as trump is president or at least another another conservative then *your* party is in for endless problems... No, Tim, it is the lower income classes who are "in" for endless problems, because Trump and the Repugnants will **** them royally over and over in order to line the pockets of the wealthy. The strange thing about that statement is there are more millionaire/billionaire democrats than there are millionaire republicans. Trump voters are the working class. You only have to look at the election map to see that. The democrats get the masses of votes in the cities from people who do not work at all. |
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