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Ah, the benefits of a liberal arts education
On 12/28/16 3:13 PM, Its Me wrote:
On Wednesday, December 28, 2016 at 2:55:00 PM UTC-5, Keyser Soze wrote: On 12/28/16 2:14 PM, Its Me wrote: On Wednesday, December 28, 2016 at 1:30:17 PM UTC-5, Keyser Soze wrote: On 12/28/16 12:54 PM, wrote: On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 11:54:29 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: On 12/28/16 11:35 AM, wrote: On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 10:13:07 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: On 12/27/16 9:52 PM, wrote: On Tue, 27 Dec 2016 19:00:35 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: On 12/27/16 4:19 PM, wrote: Did you actually read the post you are responding to? I certainly bet I know more about US history than a GW graduate who did not have to take a single US history course to get his BA. Where did he get all of this knowledge? Smoking dope and watching the History channel in his dorm room? He could have saved the fifty grand and just bought a basic cable package at home in his mom's basement. I doubt at 22 you knew as much about history as a college grad in history at the same age. And as for whether he/she studied U.S. history, well that would have depended upon the cycle and sequence taken for the major. If your major was medieval history of Europe, you wouldn't have spent a lot of time taking courses about the United States. Or maybe any time. Reading random books and papers, as you apparently did, ain't the same as following a course of study taught by professors and discussed by students discussing similar material in a classroom setting and producing college-level papers. You may think it is the same, and results in the same, but...it doesn't. Dance Mr Bojangles. You don't seem to give me any credit for 50 years of life experience so the bet stands as is. If this kid does not take American history at GW, I will sit for the test and he can sit for the same one. Give me $100 a point and I will make at least five grand. Make it easy, just use two of those 50 question Face book quizzes. I'd love to see your test results after a senior level exam on medieval european history, what the "kid" was studying. Having exactly NOTHING to do with American history other than perhaps the desire to get the **** out of Europe.. And perhaps you might enlighten us as to how the Frontier Thesis could have been used by blacks to more fully integrate this country. That was just Turner's opinion and widely criticized as being far to narrow of an opinion by many, including his contemporaries. I gave you my opinion about the integration of blacks and you roundly rejected it without actually dealing with any of the points. Why would I hypothesize about someone else's theory when that was not even the main thrust of the piece? It is true that blacks had more opportunity in the west but that may have just been that they had the common enemy of the natives to fight along side the whites. If you were a settler in Kansas, under attack by indians, you certainly were happy to see a troop of Buffalo Soldiers coming across the plain. Once again, I doubt at 22 you knew as much history as a college grad of the same age who was a history major. There's no way to prove that at 70 you have the rigorous education in history as a current graduate history major of 22. That you may have read a pile of books is not proof of knowledge. Where are your papers? Where are your presentations? Where are your academic discussions? You certainly put a lot of credence on the pontificating of a few bloviating academics who have never done anything but go to school at 5 and never left. Also, I didn't ask you for a critique of the Frontier Thesis. I asked you how it could have been used by blacks to more fully integrate this country. The question is a modern one and really has little to do with the expansion of the west, per se, or the Buffalo Soldiers. I wasn't sure where you were going with that brain fart but I assumed you thought I would be impressed by something I read and reported on in high school. 1. In college in subjects such as political science, history, English, literature, et cetera, you demonstrate command of subject matter by writing papers, preparing and presenting presentations, and participating in discussions, and by taking various kinds of examinations. This is what the students do. You may think it is nothing more than the "pontificating of a few bloviating academics," but you would be wrong. Again. Before my wife could get her doctorate, she had to pass a three day written exam in her field - three days in a row -and then after that she had to take an all-day oral exam given to her by four or maybe five faculty members, including two from other universities, to defend her dissertation. You have to show what you know. That's a bit more work than typing up a list of books you may have read. 2. No, I'm not. I asked you - twice - a fairly specific question that had nothing to do with something you read and reported on in high school. You obviously don't understand that you aren't in charge here, and can't demand answers that you seek. I asked, asshole, I didn't demand. Heh. When John does the same as you, you accuse him of demanding answers and you tell him he's not in charge. Same shoe, different foot. Johnny the Racist demands. Well, he did when I read his posts, which I haven't done for some time. |
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Ah, the benefits of a liberal arts education
On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 15:17:15 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 12/28/16 3:13 PM, Its Me wrote: On Wednesday, December 28, 2016 at 2:55:00 PM UTC-5, Keyser Soze wrote: On 12/28/16 2:14 PM, Its Me wrote: On Wednesday, December 28, 2016 at 1:30:17 PM UTC-5, Keyser Soze wrote: On 12/28/16 12:54 PM, wrote: On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 11:54:29 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: On 12/28/16 11:35 AM, wrote: On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 10:13:07 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: On 12/27/16 9:52 PM, wrote: On Tue, 27 Dec 2016 19:00:35 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: On 12/27/16 4:19 PM, wrote: Did you actually read the post you are responding to? I certainly bet I know more about US history than a GW graduate who did not have to take a single US history course to get his BA. Where did he get all of this knowledge? Smoking dope and watching the History channel in his dorm room? He could have saved the fifty grand and just bought a basic cable package at home in his mom's basement. I doubt at 22 you knew as much about history as a college grad in history at the same age. And as for whether he/she studied U.S. history, well that would have depended upon the cycle and sequence taken for the major. If your major was medieval history of Europe, you wouldn't have spent a lot of time taking courses about the United States. Or maybe any time. Reading random books and papers, as you apparently did, ain't the same as following a course of study taught by professors and discussed by students discussing similar material in a classroom setting and producing college-level papers. You may think it is the same, and results in the same, but...it doesn't. Dance Mr Bojangles. You don't seem to give me any credit for 50 years of life experience so the bet stands as is. If this kid does not take American history at GW, I will sit for the test and he can sit for the same one. Give me $100 a point and I will make at least five grand. Make it easy, just use two of those 50 question Face book quizzes. I'd love to see your test results after a senior level exam on medieval european history, what the "kid" was studying. Having exactly NOTHING to do with American history other than perhaps the desire to get the **** out of Europe.. And perhaps you might enlighten us as to how the Frontier Thesis could have been used by blacks to more fully integrate this country. That was just Turner's opinion and widely criticized as being far to narrow of an opinion by many, including his contemporaries. I gave you my opinion about the integration of blacks and you roundly rejected it without actually dealing with any of the points. Why would I hypothesize about someone else's theory when that was not even the main thrust of the piece? It is true that blacks had more opportunity in the west but that may have just been that they had the common enemy of the natives to fight along side the whites. If you were a settler in Kansas, under attack by indians, you certainly were happy to see a troop of Buffalo Soldiers coming across the plain. Once again, I doubt at 22 you knew as much history as a college grad of the same age who was a history major. There's no way to prove that at 70 you have the rigorous education in history as a current graduate history major of 22. That you may have read a pile of books is not proof of knowledge. Where are your papers? Where are your presentations? Where are your academic discussions? You certainly put a lot of credence on the pontificating of a few bloviating academics who have never done anything but go to school at 5 and never left. Also, I didn't ask you for a critique of the Frontier Thesis. I asked you how it could have been used by blacks to more fully integrate this country. The question is a modern one and really has little to do with the expansion of the west, per se, or the Buffalo Soldiers. I wasn't sure where you were going with that brain fart but I assumed you thought I would be impressed by something I read and reported on in high school. 1. In college in subjects such as political science, history, English, literature, et cetera, you demonstrate command of subject matter by writing papers, preparing and presenting presentations, and participating in discussions, and by taking various kinds of examinations. This is what the students do. You may think it is nothing more than the "pontificating of a few bloviating academics," but you would be wrong. Again. Before my wife could get her doctorate, she had to pass a three day written exam in her field - three days in a row -and then after that she had to take an all-day oral exam given to her by four or maybe five faculty members, including two from other universities, to defend her dissertation. You have to show what you know. That's a bit more work than typing up a list of books you may have read. 2. No, I'm not. I asked you - twice - a fairly specific question that had nothing to do with something you read and reported on in high school. You obviously don't understand that you aren't in charge here, and can't demand answers that you seek. I asked, asshole, I didn't demand. Heh. When John does the same as you, you accuse him of demanding answers and you tell him he's not in charge. Same shoe, different foot. Johnny the Racist demands. Well, he did when I read his posts, which I haven't done for some time. Funny how you respond to so many of them. |
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