On 12/7/16 3:59 PM, Tim wrote:
2:48 PMKeyser Soze
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You righties are always "so sure" about everything. ...

And you "leftists" knew that Hillary was a shoe-in for the whitehouse.

Yeah yeah


For sure, we underestimated the amount of minority voter suppression
Repub governors would be able to inflict in their states. Still at the
moment, Hillary leads the popular vote by nearly 2.7 million.

Here's an interesting stat:

Electoral College Math

The population of California is about 38,800,000.
The population of Wyoming is about 584,153.

California has 55 electoral college votes.
Wyoming has 3 electoral college votes.

It takes 705,454 Californians to equal 1 electoral college vote.

It takes 194,717 Wyomingites to equal 1 electoral college vote.

That makes every vote in Wyoming worth 362% what each vote from
California is worth in the election for President of the United States.

And that electoral college imbalance is a consequence of placating the
Southern states when the union was being formed in order to help those
states out with their slavery problem.

I doubt Trump will last long in the presidency.

On Wed, 7 Dec 2016 16:10:56 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:

And that electoral college imbalance is a consequence of placating the
Southern states when the union was being formed in order to help those
states out with their slavery problem.

===

It wasn't just the southern states that needed placating. It was all
states outside of the big city northeast corridor. Like it or not,
the electoral college is functioning exactly as it was intended. It's
really difficult to dispute the wisdom of the founding fathers.

On Wed, 07 Dec 2016 17:33:31 -0500,
wrote:

On Wed, 7 Dec 2016 16:10:56 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:

And that electoral college imbalance is a consequence of placating the
Southern states when the union was being formed in order to help those
states out with their slavery problem.

===

It wasn't just the southern states that needed placating. It was all
states outside of the big city northeast corridor. Like it or not,
the electoral college is functioning exactly as it was intended. It's
really difficult to dispute the wisdom of the founding fathers.

I think the democrats have misdiagnosed the divide in the US.
It is not between rich and poor or even race. It is the difference
between city and country. In that regard the problem addressed by the
EC is still valid. Without the EC and the Senate, the people of
Wyoming, Idaho, Montana and any of the other red states would have no
say at all in how they are governed. Since the unconstitutional
expansion of the federal powers in the last 80 years, that is more
important than ever. Things that should be regulated by the states are
now regulated by Washington and people who think they understand rural
living because they have a friend in Frederick County.

On Wed, 07 Dec 2016 23:37:10 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 07 Dec 2016 17:33:31 -0500,
wrote:

On Wed, 7 Dec 2016 16:10:56 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:

And that electoral college imbalance is a consequence of placating the
Southern states when the union was being formed in order to help those
states out with their slavery problem.

===

It wasn't just the southern states that needed placating. It was all
states outside of the big city northeast corridor. Like it or not,
the electoral college is functioning exactly as it was intended. It's
really difficult to dispute the wisdom of the founding fathers.

I think the democrats have misdiagnosed the divide in the US.
It is not between rich and poor or even race. It is the difference
between city and country. In that regard the problem addressed by the
EC is still valid. Without the EC and the Senate, the people of
Wyoming, Idaho, Montana and any of the other red states would have no
say at all in how they are governed. Since the unconstitutional
expansion of the federal powers in the last 80 years, that is more
important than ever. Things that should be regulated by the states are
now regulated by Washington and people who think they understand rural
living because they have a friend in Frederick County.

===

That's very much in line with my view of things. It all comes down to
the question of what is the proper role of the federal government?
Some are obvious like national defense, foreign policy, monetary
system/policy, and regulation of interstate commerce. After that it
gets very murky.

On Wed, 7 Dec 2016 16:10:56 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 12/7/16 3:59 PM, Tim wrote:
2:48 PMKeyser Soze
- show quoted text -
You righties are always "so sure" about everything. ...

And you "leftists" knew that Hillary was a shoe-in for the whitehouse.

Yeah yeah


For sure, we underestimated the amount of minority voter suppression
Repub governors would be able to inflict in their states. Still at the
moment, Hillary leads the popular vote by nearly 2.7 million.

Here's an interesting stat:

Electoral College Math

The population of California is about 38,800,000.
The population of Wyoming is about 584,153.

California has 55 electoral college votes.
Wyoming has 3 electoral college votes.

It takes 705,454 Californians to equal 1 electoral college vote.

It takes 194,717 Wyomingites to equal 1 electoral college vote.

That makes every vote in Wyoming worth 362% what each vote from
California is worth in the election for President of the United States.

As it should be.

On Wednesday, December 7, 2016 at 3:10:59 PM UTC-6, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 12/7/16 3:59 PM, Tim wrote:
2:48 PMKeyser Soze
- show quoted text -
You righties are always "so sure" about everything. ...

And you "leftists" knew that Hillary was a shoe-in for the whitehouse.

Yeah yeah


For sure, we underestimated the amount of minority voter suppression
Repub governors would be able to inflict in their states. Still at the
moment, Hillary leads the popular vote by nearly 2.7 million.

Here's an interesting stat:

Electoral College Math

The population of California is about 38,800,000.
The population of Wyoming is about 584,153.

California has 55 electoral college votes.
Wyoming has 3 electoral college votes.

It takes 705,454 Californians to equal 1 electoral college vote.

It takes 194,717 Wyomingites to equal 1 electoral college vote.

That makes every vote in Wyoming worth 362% what each vote from
California is worth in the election for President of the United States.

And that electoral college imbalance is a consequence of placating the
Southern states when the union was being formed in order to help those
states out with their slavery problem.

I doubt Trump will last long in the presidency.

Probably a lot longer than you'd like or hope.

BTW, here's one of your election math links you didn't feel was worth providing...

https://onsizzle.com/i/electoral-col...00-the-4175736

Tim wrote:
On Wednesday, December 7, 2016 at 3:10:59 PM UTC-6, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 12/7/16 3:59 PM, Tim wrote:
2:48 PMKeyser Soze
- show quoted text -
You righties are always "so sure" about everything. ...

And you "leftists" knew that Hillary was a shoe-in for the whitehouse.

Yeah yeah


For sure, we underestimated the amount of minority voter suppression
Repub governors would be able to inflict in their states. Still at the
moment, Hillary leads the popular vote by nearly 2.7 million.

Here's an interesting stat:

Electoral College Math

The population of California is about 38,800,000.
The population of Wyoming is about 584,153.

California has 55 electoral college votes.
Wyoming has 3 electoral college votes.

It takes 705,454 Californians to equal 1 electoral college vote.

It takes 194,717 Wyomingites to equal 1 electoral college vote.

That makes every vote in Wyoming worth 362% what each vote from
California is worth in the election for President of the United States.

And that electoral college imbalance is a consequence of placating the
Southern states when the union was being formed in order to help those
states out with their slavery problem.

I doubt Trump will last long in the presidency.

Probably a lot longer than you'd like or hope.

BTW, here's one of your election math links you didn't feel was worth providing...

https://onsizzle.com/i/electoral-col...00-the-4175736


And over half of California geographically voted for Trump, and have no
representation in. Our EC votes.

Keyser Soze wrote:
On 12/7/16 3:59 PM, Tim wrote:
2:48 PMKeyser Soze
- show quoted text -
You righties are always "so sure" about everything. ...

And you "leftists" knew that Hillary was a shoe-in for the whitehouse.

Yeah yeah


For sure, we underestimated the amount of minority voter suppression
Repub governors would be able to inflict in their states. Still at the
moment, Hillary leads the popular vote by nearly 2.7 million.

Here's an interesting stat:

Electoral College Math

The population of California is about 38,800,000.
The population of Wyoming is about 584,153.

California has 55 electoral college votes.
Wyoming has 3 electoral college votes.

It takes 705,454 Californians to equal 1 electoral college vote.

It takes 194,717 Wyomingites to equal 1 electoral college vote.

That makes every vote in Wyoming worth 362% what each vote from
California is worth in the election for President of the United States.

And that electoral college imbalance is a consequence of placating the
Southern states when the union was being formed in order to help those
states out with their slavery problem.

I doubt Trump will last long in the presidency.


Yup, is it not great how the founding fathers made even the small states
count. The EC did not come from slavery, came from having the states
select the POTUS, and the small,states made sure they had a say. The EC
had no input from the individual voters for years. Was and is up to the
states how they chose their voters.

On 12/7/2016 4:10 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 12/7/16 3:59 PM, Tim wrote:
2:48 PMKeyser Soze
- show quoted text -
You righties are always "so sure" about everything. ...

And you "leftists" knew that Hillary was a shoe-in for the whitehouse.

Yeah yeah


For sure, we underestimated the amount of minority voter suppression
Repub governors would be able to inflict in their states. Still at the
moment, Hillary leads the popular vote by nearly 2.7 million.

Here's an interesting stat:

Electoral College Math

The population of California is about 38,800,000.
The population of Wyoming is about 584,153.

California has 55 electoral college votes.
Wyoming has 3 electoral college votes.

It takes 705,454 Californians to equal 1 electoral college vote.

It takes 194,717 Wyomingites to equal 1 electoral college vote.

That makes every vote in Wyoming worth 362% what each vote from
California is worth in the election for President of the United States.

And that electoral college imbalance is a consequence of placating the
Southern states when the union was being formed in order to help those
states out with their slavery problem.

I doubt Trump will last long in the presidency.


Oh, stop your whining Harry. Nancy "No Change" Pelosi has your back.