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USA behind again...
On Thu, 01 Dec 2016 17:22:31 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote: On Thu, 01 Dec 2016 15:39:34 -0500, wrote: On Thu, 01 Dec 2016 14:26:32 -0500, Poco Loco wrote: The owners had a choice - buyback or a fix. No one really new how the 'fix' would affect the new mileage, performance, or future value. Of course everyone knows. Mileage will go down when they tune the computer for lower emissions. Otherwise they would not have cheated in the first place. Yeah, but no one knows how far down. Yup. I would guess the average guy wouldn't even notice but it must have been enough to get them to take this huge chance. I have to believe the guy who made this decision at the corporate level was sent packing but who knows. This actually might be more a performance hit than a fuel economy hit. Did the state/feds demand you fix this? I also wonder if these will be hot sellers in places with no emission testing. I bet there are guys who would want to hack their car the other way. I see plenty of ads for reflashing ECUs or new chips on other cars to boost horsepower. |
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USA behind again...
On Fri, 02 Dec 2016 09:00:35 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote: On Thu, 01 Dec 2016 19:24:43 -0500, wrote: On Thu, 01 Dec 2016 17:22:31 -0500, Poco Loco wrote: On Thu, 01 Dec 2016 15:39:34 -0500, wrote: On Thu, 01 Dec 2016 14:26:32 -0500, Poco Loco wrote: The owners had a choice - buyback or a fix. No one really new how the 'fix' would affect the new mileage, performance, or future value. Of course everyone knows. Mileage will go down when they tune the computer for lower emissions. Otherwise they would not have cheated in the first place. Yeah, but no one knows how far down. Yup. I would guess the average guy wouldn't even notice but it must have been enough to get them to take this huge chance. I have to believe the guy who made this decision at the corporate level was sent packing but who knows. This actually might be more a performance hit than a fuel economy hit. Did the state/feds demand you fix this? I also wonder if these will be hot sellers in places with no emission testing. I bet there are guys who would want to hack their car the other way. I see plenty of ads for reflashing ECUs or new chips on other cars to boost horsepower. It is against the state law to circumvent the OBDII system emissions testing. As Volkswagen has programmed the system to detect the OBDII monitor and report emissions results which are false, the autos are being operated illegally. Not sure how they would become 'hot sellers', even in places with no emissions testing. Why would they be any hotter, because the on-board computer presents false readings? Read what? There are plenty of places with no inspections at all. Nobody looks at our cars ... for anything. BTW the VW hack did not give false readings. It just behaved properly when it thought someone was looking and ran wide open when it thought they weren't. They got caught when someone actually tested the tail pipe emissions on the road. |
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USA behind again...
On Fri, 02 Dec 2016 09:59:12 -0500, wrote:
On Fri, 02 Dec 2016 09:00:35 -0500, Poco Loco wrote: On Thu, 01 Dec 2016 19:24:43 -0500, wrote: On Thu, 01 Dec 2016 17:22:31 -0500, Poco Loco wrote: On Thu, 01 Dec 2016 15:39:34 -0500, wrote: On Thu, 01 Dec 2016 14:26:32 -0500, Poco Loco wrote: The owners had a choice - buyback or a fix. No one really new how the 'fix' would affect the new mileage, performance, or future value. Of course everyone knows. Mileage will go down when they tune the computer for lower emissions. Otherwise they would not have cheated in the first place. Yeah, but no one knows how far down. Yup. I would guess the average guy wouldn't even notice but it must have been enough to get them to take this huge chance. I have to believe the guy who made this decision at the corporate level was sent packing but who knows. This actually might be more a performance hit than a fuel economy hit. Did the state/feds demand you fix this? I also wonder if these will be hot sellers in places with no emission testing. I bet there are guys who would want to hack their car the other way. I see plenty of ads for reflashing ECUs or new chips on other cars to boost horsepower. It is against the state law to circumvent the OBDII system emissions testing. As Volkswagen has programmed the system to detect the OBDII monitor and report emissions results which are false, the autos are being operated illegally. Not sure how they would become 'hot sellers', even in places with no emissions testing. Why would they be any hotter, because the on-board computer presents false readings? Read what? There are plenty of places with no inspections at all. Nobody looks at our cars ... for anything. BTW the VW hack did not give false readings. It just behaved properly when it thought someone was looking and ran wide open when it thought they weren't. They got caught when someone actually tested the tail pipe emissions on the road. I was just going by what I read. If there is no inspection at all, and running with the 'hack' is legal, then there'd be no reason to do anything, other than for the money. My wife will get about $3500 more than she paid for the car new. |
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