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On Wed, 11 May 2016 09:47:04 -0400, Justan Olphart
wrote: On 5/11/2016 9:40 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: Well, of course you don't feel sorry for the monk, because he was a buddhist protesting christian barbarism and gross discrimination towards his people. The reality is that the self-immolation by that monk helped bring down a brutal government, albeit it was replaced by one that equaled it in corruption. The monk's act and the spreading of the photos of it around the world changed history. What was the dude thinking? Surely he must have known he'd end up a krispy critter for no good reason. He must have had suicidal tendencies. No doubt there were virgins involved. ;-) |
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On Wed, 11 May 2016 07:28:49 -0700 (PDT), Its Me
wrote: On Wednesday, May 11, 2016 at 10:03:57 AM UTC-4, Tim wrote: 8:40 AMKeyser Söze - show quoted text - Well, of course you don't feel sorry for the monk, because he was a buddhist protesting christian barbarism and gross discrimination towards his people. The reality is that the self-immolation by that monk helped bring down a brutal government, albeit it was replaced by one that equaled it in corruption. The monk's act and the spreading of the photos of it around the world changed history. .... IE "look at me. I'm going to kill myself for a cause" whatever. Same goes for hunger strikes. Just a more permanent end to the kid who holds its breath till it turns blue... The monks had a rich history of self-immolation before that happened. It was just the latest, and was caught on film and put on the news all over the world at the "right" time. Kennedy, Diem, and the Roman Catholic Church should all be ashamed. Yeah Harry glazes over the fact that all of that took place during St John's administration. I remember when "Madam Nhu" came to DC and was treated like the second coming of Christ. |
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On Wed, 11 May 2016 10:37:02 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote: Harry must admire suicide bombers. You are living proof that one cannot overstate the amount of ignorance and stupidity in rec.boats. History is full of martyrs who died for a cause and some of those deaths resulted in real, positive change for mankind. That is what the Jihadists think anyway. |
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On Wed, 11 May 2016 08:57:10 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: I met and dealt with hundreds if not thousands of people during my working career. They typically ranged from entry level tradespeople to scientists and/or management personal with multiple Phd's. I don't think I ever met anyone as narrow and shallow minded as you present yourself here Harry. "Critical thinking" is not your forte, as evidenced by your comments to any discussion here. Millions of people in the world, including many posters to rec.boats, have or had highly successful careers, accomplishments and made contributions to society without benefit of what you regard as a "formal higher education". Based on what I have deduced from your contributions here, many are far more educated in meaningful ways than the high regard you hold for yourself. The only people I've met who think and sound like you are those who chose (or were forced) to remain in academia for all their working years. Yes, they have an abundance of knowledge, but most of it useless in the real world. Poor life choices and poor employment choices has Harry still out there grinding out a meager existence while most of us his age are comfortably retired. He will die working for someone else. He rationalizes it every morning when his alarm clock goes off by saying he likes it. Who "likes" a 2+ hour commute, even if the job is tolerable? I like my engineering jobs. But retired when the last employer screwed up, and pretty much folded. Looking at a 1.5 hour morning and evening commute decided the retirement. |
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Keyser Söze wrote:
On 5/11/16 10:24 AM, Califbill wrote: Tim wrote: 8:40 AMKeyser Söze - show quoted text - Well, of course you don't feel sorry for the monk, because he was a buddhist protesting christian barbarism and gross discrimination towards his people. The reality is that the self-immolation by that monk helped bring down a brutal government, albeit it was replaced by one that equaled it in corruption. The monk's act and the spreading of the photos of it around the world changed history. .... IE "look at me. I'm going to kill myself for a cause" whatever. Same goes for hunger strikes. Just a more permanent end to the kid who holds its breath till it turns blue... Harry must admire suicide bombers. You are living proof that one cannot overstate the amount of ignorance and stupidity in rec.boats. History is full of martyrs who died for a cause and some of those deaths resulted in real, positive change for mankind. So you love those suicide martyrs. |
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On 5/11/16 11:46 AM, Keine Krauseschei�e wrote:
On Wed, 11 May 2016 08:01:57 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 5/11/16 1:09 AM, wrote: On Tue, 10 May 2016 19:14:22 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: It's not my fault that you and FlaJim the other right-wing Asshole were too stupid or lazy to get into a community college back in the day. Even a state four year college back then was cheap enough so that a student could pay his or her way with part time and summer job. Yeah, **** your country, duck the draft and get a jingle writing job. Helping your country prop up a series of brutal dictatorships, including one that resulted in Th*ch Qu?ng ??c, a Buddhist monk, setting himself on fire to protest Christian brutality, is not an example of appropriate patriotism. Oh, and your terminology is deficient, too. Continuing one's education is not "ducking" the draft so long as one is registered. It's too bad you didn't avail yourself of a formal higher education...you might have learned some critical thinking skills. In at least a half dozen posts you've told us how we should have gotten into at least a community college to escape the draft. What do *you* call that? To me, it's kinda chicken **** draft dodging. -- Well, you certainly didn't need college to evolve into chicken ****, did you? |
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On 5/11/16 11:51 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 11 May 2016 08:07:13 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 5/11/16 2:11 AM, wrote: On Tue, 10 May 2016 21:27:20 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: It's not my problem that you were so ignorant of what was happening and going to happen in SE Asia. It isn't because you grew up in the midwest, because there was plenty of news available there and nationally about the horrors of the Vietnamese government we were propping up. Basically, you "dumbed" your way into that war. Couldn't you get into an open admissions JUCO? I suppose you could just say LBJ lied us into that war but you would be defaming a famous democrat. In 1964 when I signed my commitment for the CG, this is what he was saying http://gfretwell.com/ftp/johnson%20vietnam%20lie.mp3 The fear of joining the army at that time was you would be stuck in Ft Dix, painting rocks white outside the officer's club for 2 years. I wanted something more interesting. I was hoping for a Florida life boat station. Translating that into "Greg-Think," you joined the coast guard so you could avoid the army and the risk of being sent to Vietnam as rifle fodder. So...you were a draft dodger. That is not right at all. Remember, LBJ just told us he was not going to send American boys off to war. It was the days of the "Elvis and Sgt Bilko" army. I tried to go to Vietnam twice on 1965. (Navy PBRs and GC 83 footers) Both times the request was denied. Why did you want to go to Vietnam? Do you think the North Vietnamese posed any threat to the United States? Did you want to prop up the dictatorship in South Vietnam? Were you hoping to shag Jane Fonda? (I would have if I had had the opportunity.) |
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On 5/11/16 12:30 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote: On 5/11/16 10:24 AM, Califbill wrote: Tim wrote: 8:40 AMKeyser Söze - show quoted text - Well, of course you don't feel sorry for the monk, because he was a buddhist protesting christian barbarism and gross discrimination towards his people. The reality is that the self-immolation by that monk helped bring down a brutal government, albeit it was replaced by one that equaled it in corruption. The monk's act and the spreading of the photos of it around the world changed history. .... IE "look at me. I'm going to kill myself for a cause" whatever. Same goes for hunger strikes. Just a more permanent end to the kid who holds its breath till it turns blue... Harry must admire suicide bombers. You are living proof that one cannot overstate the amount of ignorance and stupidity in rec.boats. History is full of martyrs who died for a cause and some of those deaths resulted in real, positive change for mankind. So you love those suicide martyrs. You really are ignorant and stupid, aren't you? |
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On 5/11/2016 9:42 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 5/11/16 8:57 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 5/11/2016 8:01 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 5/11/16 1:09 AM, wrote: On Tue, 10 May 2016 19:14:22 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: It's not my fault that you and FlaJim the other right-wing Asshole were too stupid or lazy to get into a community college back in the day. Even a state four year college back then was cheap enough so that a student could pay his or her way with part time and summer job. Yeah, **** your country, duck the draft and get a jingle writing job. Helping your country prop up a series of brutal dictatorships, including one that resulted in Th*ch Quảng Đức, a Buddhist monk, setting himself on fire to protest Christian brutality, is not an example of appropriate patriotism. Oh, and your terminology is deficient, too. Continuing one's education is not "ducking" the draft so long as one is registered. It's too bad you didn't avail yourself of a formal higher education...you might have learned some critical thinking skills. I met and dealt with hundreds if not thousands of people during my working career. They typically ranged from entry level tradespeople to scientists and/or management personal with multiple Phd's. I don't think I ever met anyone as narrow and shallow minded as you present yourself here Harry. "Critical thinking" is not your forte, as evidenced by your comments to any discussion here. Millions of people in the world, including many posters to rec.boats, have or had highly successful careers, accomplishments and made contributions to society without benefit of what you regard as a "formal higher education". Based on what I have deduced from your contributions here, many are far more educated in meaningful ways than the high regard you hold for yourself. The only people I've met who think and sound like you are those who chose (or were forced) to remain in academia for all their working years. Yes, they have an abundance of knowledge, but most of it useless in the real world. But no comment from you regarding the "Yeah, **** your country, duck the draft and get a jingle writing job," eh? Real critical thinking. D'uh. I said "many". "Many" doesn't mean "all". |
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On Wed, 11 May 2016 11:30:03 -0500, Califbill
wrote: wrote: On Wed, 11 May 2016 08:57:10 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: I met and dealt with hundreds if not thousands of people during my working career. They typically ranged from entry level tradespeople to scientists and/or management personal with multiple Phd's. I don't think I ever met anyone as narrow and shallow minded as you present yourself here Harry. "Critical thinking" is not your forte, as evidenced by your comments to any discussion here. Millions of people in the world, including many posters to rec.boats, have or had highly successful careers, accomplishments and made contributions to society without benefit of what you regard as a "formal higher education". Based on what I have deduced from your contributions here, many are far more educated in meaningful ways than the high regard you hold for yourself. The only people I've met who think and sound like you are those who chose (or were forced) to remain in academia for all their working years. Yes, they have an abundance of knowledge, but most of it useless in the real world. Poor life choices and poor employment choices has Harry still out there grinding out a meager existence while most of us his age are comfortably retired. He will die working for someone else. He rationalizes it every morning when his alarm clock goes off by saying he likes it. Who "likes" a 2+ hour commute, even if the job is tolerable? I like my engineering jobs. But retired when the last employer screwed up, and pretty much folded. Looking at a 1.5 hour morning and evening commute decided the retirement. I left when IBM offered me a job over on that gold coast Harry is so fond of (Miami Ft Lauderdale). They even offered to move me. (buy my house and pay moving/living expenses) No thanks. The counter was I could do that 4-5 hour "commute" on the clock and get paid expenses if I stayed over. Again, no thanks. I waited an extra year to get the west coast when I transferred here from DC and I had no interest in being there 15 years later. The idiot I was working for said I did not have a choice. I pointed out I was eligible for full retirement in 8 days and I had my inspector's license. I didn't bother to say I had already signed a contract with the state but it was fun playing along. The guys in the office talked me into staying another month to make a reasonable transition but I did it for them, not IBM |
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On Wed, 11 May 2016 12:47:48 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote: On 5/11/16 11:51 AM, wrote: On Wed, 11 May 2016 08:07:13 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 5/11/16 2:11 AM, wrote: On Tue, 10 May 2016 21:27:20 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: It's not my problem that you were so ignorant of what was happening and going to happen in SE Asia. It isn't because you grew up in the midwest, because there was plenty of news available there and nationally about the horrors of the Vietnamese government we were propping up. Basically, you "dumbed" your way into that war. Couldn't you get into an open admissions JUCO? I suppose you could just say LBJ lied us into that war but you would be defaming a famous democrat. In 1964 when I signed my commitment for the CG, this is what he was saying http://gfretwell.com/ftp/johnson%20vietnam%20lie.mp3 The fear of joining the army at that time was you would be stuck in Ft Dix, painting rocks white outside the officer's club for 2 years. I wanted something more interesting. I was hoping for a Florida life boat station. Translating that into "Greg-Think," you joined the coast guard so you could avoid the army and the risk of being sent to Vietnam as rifle fodder. So...you were a draft dodger. That is not right at all. Remember, LBJ just told us he was not going to send American boys off to war. It was the days of the "Elvis and Sgt Bilko" army. I tried to go to Vietnam twice on 1965. (Navy PBRs and GC 83 footers) Both times the request was denied. Why did you want to go to Vietnam? Do you think the North Vietnamese posed any threat to the United States? Did you want to prop up the dictatorship in South Vietnam? Were you hoping to shag Jane Fonda? (I would have if I had had the opportunity.) All I can say is "18 year old testosterone" I had several friends there. The idea of blasting up some little river on a PBR just seemed like something that I wanted to do. (the "Apocalypse Now" boat for the uninitiated) |
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On Wed, 11 May 2016 12:48:32 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote: On 5/11/16 12:30 PM, Califbill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: You are living proof that one cannot overstate the amount of ignorance and stupidity in rec.boats. History is full of martyrs who died for a cause and some of those deaths resulted in real, positive change for mankind. So you love those suicide martyrs. You really are ignorant and stupid, aren't you? You are the one who brought up suicide martyrs. It could easily be pointed out that the jihadists are more successful than the monks were |
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On Wed, 11 May 2016 13:08:56 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: But no comment from you regarding the "Yeah, **** your country, duck the draft and get a jingle writing job," eh? Real critical thinking. D'uh. I said "many". "Many" doesn't mean "all". After hearing the implication that I am an uneducated moron often enough, I do tend to lash out. That is particularly true when it is coming from someone who is living on the margins of success. Somehow hearing a guy in his 70s saying he enjoys standing in the rain waiting for a bus is rewarding, defies logic. |
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On 5/11/2016 12:30 PM, Califbill wrote:
wrote: On Wed, 11 May 2016 08:57:10 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: I met and dealt with hundreds if not thousands of people during my working career. They typically ranged from entry level tradespeople to scientists and/or management personal with multiple Phd's. I don't think I ever met anyone as narrow and shallow minded as you present yourself here Harry. "Critical thinking" is not your forte, as evidenced by your comments to any discussion here. Millions of people in the world, including many posters to rec.boats, have or had highly successful careers, accomplishments and made contributions to society without benefit of what you regard as a "formal higher education". Based on what I have deduced from your contributions here, many are far more educated in meaningful ways than the high regard you hold for yourself. The only people I've met who think and sound like you are those who chose (or were forced) to remain in academia for all their working years. Yes, they have an abundance of knowledge, but most of it useless in the real world. Poor life choices and poor employment choices has Harry still out there grinding out a meager existence while most of us his age are comfortably retired. He will die working for someone else. He rationalizes it every morning when his alarm clock goes off by saying he likes it. Who "likes" a 2+ hour commute, even if the job is tolerable? I like my engineering jobs. But retired when the last employer screwed up, and pretty much folded. Looking at a 1.5 hour morning and evening commute decided the retirement. The last full time "job" I had was running the engineering/manufacturering company I had. It was rewarding in the sense that I was able to control the culture of the company and established many mutually beneficial relationships with some major companies. But once the company grew to almost 100 people I found it to be less and less enjoyable. Plus, company to company relationships and ways of doing business was changing. Previously our real "customer" was usually a seasoned and experienced project manager in a company who was also a technologist. As the business world changed I found myself dealing more and more with bean counters who didn't have a clue what was being designed and built. After 12 years of it, I had pretty much had enough. |
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On 5/11/2016 1:17 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 11 May 2016 12:47:48 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 5/11/16 11:51 AM, wrote: On Wed, 11 May 2016 08:07:13 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 5/11/16 2:11 AM, wrote: On Tue, 10 May 2016 21:27:20 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: It's not my problem that you were so ignorant of what was happening and going to happen in SE Asia. It isn't because you grew up in the midwest, because there was plenty of news available there and nationally about the horrors of the Vietnamese government we were propping up. Basically, you "dumbed" your way into that war. Couldn't you get into an open admissions JUCO? I suppose you could just say LBJ lied us into that war but you would be defaming a famous democrat. In 1964 when I signed my commitment for the CG, this is what he was saying http://gfretwell.com/ftp/johnson%20vietnam%20lie.mp3 The fear of joining the army at that time was you would be stuck in Ft Dix, painting rocks white outside the officer's club for 2 years. I wanted something more interesting. I was hoping for a Florida life boat station. Translating that into "Greg-Think," you joined the coast guard so you could avoid the army and the risk of being sent to Vietnam as rifle fodder. So...you were a draft dodger. That is not right at all. Remember, LBJ just told us he was not going to send American boys off to war. It was the days of the "Elvis and Sgt Bilko" army. I tried to go to Vietnam twice on 1965. (Navy PBRs and GC 83 footers) Both times the request was denied. Why did you want to go to Vietnam? Do you think the North Vietnamese posed any threat to the United States? Did you want to prop up the dictatorship in South Vietnam? Were you hoping to shag Jane Fonda? (I would have if I had had the opportunity.) All I can say is "18 year old testosterone" I had several friends there. The idea of blasting up some little river on a PBR just seemed like something that I wanted to do. (the "Apocalypse Now" boat for the uninitiated) Plus, for some of us, military service to your country was an honorable thing to do based on our upbringing. I always had it in my head that I would serve at least two years in the military since I was about 14 years old. It was based purely on a sense of patriotism, pride to be an American and a feeling that a couple of years dedicated to the country wasn't much to ask of anyone. Ended up doing nine years active and 2 more in the reserves. No regrets whatsoever and proud to be one of the other "1 percenters". |
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Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 5/11/2016 1:26 PM, wrote: On Wed, 11 May 2016 13:08:56 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: But no comment from you regarding the "Yeah, **** your country, duck the draft and get a jingle writing job," eh? Real critical thinking. D'uh. I said "many". "Many" doesn't mean "all". After hearing the implication that I am an uneducated moron often enough, I do tend to lash out. That is particularly true when it is coming from someone who is living on the margins of success. Somehow hearing a guy in his 70s saying he enjoys standing in the rain waiting for a bus is rewarding, defies logic. Yeah, my comment wasn't intended to be derogatory of you. I have a lot of respect for what you've accomplished in your life. I was just trying to avoid a Harry trap. Who is standing in the rain waiting for a bus? -- Sent from my iPhone 6+ |
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On Wed, 11 May 2016 13:27:10 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: On 5/11/2016 12:30 PM, Califbill wrote: wrote: On Wed, 11 May 2016 08:57:10 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: I met and dealt with hundreds if not thousands of people during my working career. They typically ranged from entry level tradespeople to scientists and/or management personal with multiple Phd's. I don't think I ever met anyone as narrow and shallow minded as you present yourself here Harry. "Critical thinking" is not your forte, as evidenced by your comments to any discussion here. Millions of people in the world, including many posters to rec.boats, have or had highly successful careers, accomplishments and made contributions to society without benefit of what you regard as a "formal higher education". Based on what I have deduced from your contributions here, many are far more educated in meaningful ways than the high regard you hold for yourself. The only people I've met who think and sound like you are those who chose (or were forced) to remain in academia for all their working years. Yes, they have an abundance of knowledge, but most of it useless in the real world. Poor life choices and poor employment choices has Harry still out there grinding out a meager existence while most of us his age are comfortably retired. He will die working for someone else. He rationalizes it every morning when his alarm clock goes off by saying he likes it. Who "likes" a 2+ hour commute, even if the job is tolerable? I like my engineering jobs. But retired when the last employer screwed up, and pretty much folded. Looking at a 1.5 hour morning and evening commute decided the retirement. The last full time "job" I had was running the engineering/manufacturering company I had. It was rewarding in the sense that I was able to control the culture of the company and established many mutually beneficial relationships with some major companies. But once the company grew to almost 100 people I found it to be less and less enjoyable. Plus, company to company relationships and ways of doing business was changing. Previously our real "customer" was usually a seasoned and experienced project manager in a company who was also a technologist. As the business world changed I found myself dealing more and more with bean counters who didn't have a clue what was being designed and built. After 12 years of it, I had pretty much had enough. You sound like my Dutch neighbor Henk. He has similar stories and that was in Europe. |
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On Wed, 11 May 2016 13:49:14 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 5/11/2016 1:26 PM, wrote: On Wed, 11 May 2016 13:08:56 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: But no comment from you regarding the "Yeah, **** your country, duck the draft and get a jingle writing job," eh? Real critical thinking. D'uh. I said "many". "Many" doesn't mean "all". After hearing the implication that I am an uneducated moron often enough, I do tend to lash out. That is particularly true when it is coming from someone who is living on the margins of success. Somehow hearing a guy in his 70s saying he enjoys standing in the rain waiting for a bus is rewarding, defies logic. Yeah, my comment wasn't intended to be derogatory of you. I have a lot of respect for what you've accomplished in your life. I was just trying to avoid a Harry trap. Who is standing in the rain waiting for a bus? I suppose it never rains in DC. It certainly did when I was there ... standing in the rain waiting for the bus. |
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On 5/11/16 2:49 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 11 May 2016 13:49:14 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 5/11/2016 1:26 PM, wrote: On Wed, 11 May 2016 13:08:56 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: But no comment from you regarding the "Yeah, **** your country, duck the draft and get a jingle writing job," eh? Real critical thinking. D'uh. I said "many". "Many" doesn't mean "all". After hearing the implication that I am an uneducated moron often enough, I do tend to lash out. That is particularly true when it is coming from someone who is living on the margins of success. Somehow hearing a guy in his 70s saying he enjoys standing in the rain waiting for a bus is rewarding, defies logic. Yeah, my comment wasn't intended to be derogatory of you. I have a lot of respect for what you've accomplished in your life. I was just trying to avoid a Harry trap. Who is standing in the rain waiting for a bus? I suppose it never rains in DC. It certainly did when I was there ... standing in the rain waiting for the bus. Oh. Well, the commuter buses pretty much are on schedule and frequent. One of my downtown clients is on K Street and another is on L Street. The K Street client is on the corner opposite the bus stop, and the L Street client is a block and a street away. If it is pouring, I simply wait in the lobby of the K Street client's office building until I see the bus coming. And, of course, we're allowed umbrellas and raincoats up here. The work I get to do, I suspect, is a bit more exciting and mind challenging than hanging around in Estrogen, Florida, clearing lots and rebuilding pool bars. |
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Keyser Söze wrote:
On 5/11/16 12:30 PM, Califbill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: On 5/11/16 10:24 AM, Califbill wrote: Tim wrote: 8:40 AMKeyser Söze - show quoted text - Well, of course you don't feel sorry for the monk, because he was a buddhist protesting christian barbarism and gross discrimination towards his people. The reality is that the self-immolation by that monk helped bring down a brutal government, albeit it was replaced by one that equaled it in corruption. The monk's act and the spreading of the photos of it around the world changed history. .... IE "look at me. I'm going to kill myself for a cause" whatever. Same goes for hunger strikes. Just a more permanent end to the kid who holds its breath till it turns blue... Harry must admire suicide bombers. You are living proof that one cannot overstate the amount of ignorance and stupidity in rec.boats. History is full of martyrs who died for a cause and some of those deaths resulted in real, positive change for mankind. So you love those suicide martyrs. You really are ignorant and stupid, aren't you? Just extrapolating from your statements. |
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Keyser Söze wrote:
On 5/11/16 2:49 PM, wrote: On Wed, 11 May 2016 13:49:14 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 5/11/2016 1:26 PM, wrote: On Wed, 11 May 2016 13:08:56 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: But no comment from you regarding the "Yeah, **** your country, duck the draft and get a jingle writing job," eh? Real critical thinking. D'uh. I said "many". "Many" doesn't mean "all". After hearing the implication that I am an uneducated moron often enough, I do tend to lash out. That is particularly true when it is coming from someone who is living on the margins of success. Somehow hearing a guy in his 70s saying he enjoys standing in the rain waiting for a bus is rewarding, defies logic. Yeah, my comment wasn't intended to be derogatory of you. I have a lot of respect for what you've accomplished in your life. I was just trying to avoid a Harry trap. Who is standing in the rain waiting for a bus? I suppose it never rains in DC. It certainly did when I was there ... standing in the rain waiting for the bus. Oh. Well, the commuter buses pretty much are on schedule and frequent. One of my downtown clients is on K Street and another is on L Street. The K Street client is on the corner opposite the bus stop, and the L Street client is a block and a street away. If it is pouring, I simply wait in the lobby of the K Street client's office building until I see the bus coming. And, of course, we're allowed umbrellas and raincoats up here. The work I get to do, I suspect, is a bit more exciting and mind challenging than hanging around in Estrogen, Florida, clearing lots and rebuilding pool bars. Rumors and propaganda are challenging. |
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On 5/11/16 3:19 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote: On 5/11/16 12:30 PM, Califbill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: On 5/11/16 10:24 AM, Califbill wrote: Tim wrote: 8:40 AMKeyser Söze - show quoted text - Well, of course you don't feel sorry for the monk, because he was a buddhist protesting christian barbarism and gross discrimination towards his people. The reality is that the self-immolation by that monk helped bring down a brutal government, albeit it was replaced by one that equaled it in corruption. The monk's act and the spreading of the photos of it around the world changed history. .... IE "look at me. I'm going to kill myself for a cause" whatever. Same goes for hunger strikes. Just a more permanent end to the kid who holds its breath till it turns blue... Harry must admire suicide bombers. You are living proof that one cannot overstate the amount of ignorance and stupidity in rec.boats. History is full of martyrs who died for a cause and some of those deaths resulted in real, positive change for mankind. So you love those suicide martyrs. You really are ignorant and stupid, aren't you? Just extrapolating from your statements. Stupid is as stupid does. |
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On 5/11/16 3:25 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote: On 5/11/16 2:49 PM, wrote: On Wed, 11 May 2016 13:49:14 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 5/11/2016 1:26 PM, wrote: On Wed, 11 May 2016 13:08:56 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: But no comment from you regarding the "Yeah, **** your country, duck the draft and get a jingle writing job," eh? Real critical thinking. D'uh. I said "many". "Many" doesn't mean "all". After hearing the implication that I am an uneducated moron often enough, I do tend to lash out. That is particularly true when it is coming from someone who is living on the margins of success. Somehow hearing a guy in his 70s saying he enjoys standing in the rain waiting for a bus is rewarding, defies logic. Yeah, my comment wasn't intended to be derogatory of you. I have a lot of respect for what you've accomplished in your life. I was just trying to avoid a Harry trap. Who is standing in the rain waiting for a bus? I suppose it never rains in DC. It certainly did when I was there ... standing in the rain waiting for the bus. Oh. Well, the commuter buses pretty much are on schedule and frequent. One of my downtown clients is on K Street and another is on L Street. The K Street client is on the corner opposite the bus stop, and the L Street client is a block and a street away. If it is pouring, I simply wait in the lobby of the K Street client's office building until I see the bus coming. And, of course, we're allowed umbrellas and raincoats up here. The work I get to do, I suspect, is a bit more exciting and mind challenging than hanging around in Estrogen, Florida, clearing lots and rebuilding pool bars. Rumors and propaganda are challenging. I'm sure you find everything challenging. |
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Keyser Söze wrote:
On 5/11/16 3:19 PM, Califbill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: On 5/11/16 12:30 PM, Califbill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: On 5/11/16 10:24 AM, Califbill wrote: Tim wrote: 8:40 AMKeyser Söze - show quoted text - Well, of course you don't feel sorry for the monk, because he was a buddhist protesting christian barbarism and gross discrimination towards his people. The reality is that the self-immolation by that monk helped bring down a brutal government, albeit it was replaced by one that equaled it in corruption. The monk's act and the spreading of the photos of it around the world changed history. .... IE "look at me. I'm going to kill myself for a cause" whatever. Same goes for hunger strikes. Just a more permanent end to the kid who holds its breath till it turns blue... Harry must admire suicide bombers. You are living proof that one cannot overstate the amount of ignorance and stupidity in rec.boats. History is full of martyrs who died for a cause and some of those deaths resulted in real, positive change for mankind. So you love those suicide martyrs. You really are ignorant and stupid, aren't you? Just extrapolating from your statements. Stupid is as stupid does. Yup, you show it constantly these days. |
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Keyser Söze wrote:
On 5/11/16 8:57 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 5/11/2016 8:01 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 5/11/16 1:09 AM, wrote: On Tue, 10 May 2016 19:14:22 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: It's not my fault that you and FlaJim the other right-wing Asshole were too stupid or lazy to get into a community college back in the day. Even a state four year college back then was cheap enough so that a student could pay his or her way with part time and summer job. Yeah, **** your country, duck the draft and get a jingle writing job. Helping your country prop up a series of brutal dictatorships, including one that resulted in Th*ch Quảng Đức, a Buddhist monk, setting himself on fire to protest Christian brutality, is not an example of appropriate patriotism. Oh, and your terminology is deficient, too. Continuing one's education is not "ducking" the draft so long as one is registered. It's too bad you didn't avail yourself of a formal higher education...you might have learned some critical thinking skills. I met and dealt with hundreds if not thousands of people during my working career. They typically ranged from entry level tradespeople to scientists and/or management personal with multiple Phd's. I don't think I ever met anyone as narrow and shallow minded as you present yourself here Harry. "Critical thinking" is not your forte, as evidenced by your comments to any discussion here. Millions of people in the world, including many posters to rec.boats, have or had highly successful careers, accomplishments and made contributions to society without benefit of what you regard as a "formal higher education". Based on what I have deduced from your contributions here, many are far more educated in meaningful ways than the high regard you hold for yourself. The only people I've met who think and sound like you are those who chose (or were forced) to remain in academia for all their working years. Yes, they have an abundance of knowledge, but most of it useless in the real world. But no comment from you regarding the "Yeah, **** your country, duck the draft and get a jingle writing job," eh? Real critical thinking. D'uh. Do you need his support that bad? |
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Keyser Söze wrote:
On 5/11/16 11:46 AM, Keine Krauseschei�e wrote: On Wed, 11 May 2016 08:01:57 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 5/11/16 1:09 AM, wrote: On Tue, 10 May 2016 19:14:22 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: It's not my fault that you and FlaJim the other right-wing Asshole were too stupid or lazy to get into a community college back in the day. Even a state four year college back then was cheap enough so that a student could pay his or her way with part time and summer job. Yeah, **** your country, duck the draft and get a jingle writing job. Helping your country prop up a series of brutal dictatorships, including one that resulted in Th*ch Qu?ng ??c, a Buddhist monk, setting himself on fire to protest Christian brutality, is not an example of appropriate patriotism. Oh, and your terminology is deficient, too. Continuing one's education is not "ducking" the draft so long as one is registered. It's too bad you didn't avail yourself of a formal higher education...you might have learned some critical thinking skills. In at least a half dozen posts you've told us how we should have gotten into at least a community college to escape the draft. What do *you* call that? To me, it's kinda chicken **** draft dodging. -- Well, you certainly didn't need college to evolve into chicken ****, did you? Did they teach tax evasion at Yale? |
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Stupid is as stupid does. === So it has come to that, Harry Krause, the greatest educated fool I have known, quotes Forrest Gump. How appropriate. |
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On Wed, 11 May 2016 15:01:34 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote: On 5/11/16 2:49 PM, wrote: On Wed, 11 May 2016 13:49:14 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 5/11/2016 1:26 PM, wrote: On Wed, 11 May 2016 13:08:56 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: But no comment from you regarding the "Yeah, **** your country, duck the draft and get a jingle writing job," eh? Real critical thinking. D'uh. I said "many". "Many" doesn't mean "all". After hearing the implication that I am an uneducated moron often enough, I do tend to lash out. That is particularly true when it is coming from someone who is living on the margins of success. Somehow hearing a guy in his 70s saying he enjoys standing in the rain waiting for a bus is rewarding, defies logic. Yeah, my comment wasn't intended to be derogatory of you. I have a lot of respect for what you've accomplished in your life. I was just trying to avoid a Harry trap. Who is standing in the rain waiting for a bus? I suppose it never rains in DC. It certainly did when I was there ... standing in the rain waiting for the bus. Oh. Well, the commuter buses pretty much are on schedule and frequent. One of my downtown clients is on K Street and another is on L Street. The K Street client is on the corner opposite the bus stop, and the L Street client is a block and a street away. If it is pouring, I simply wait in the lobby of the K Street client's office building until I see the bus coming. And, of course, we're allowed umbrellas and raincoats up here. The work I get to do, I suspect, is a bit more exciting and mind challenging than hanging around in Estrogen, Florida, clearing lots and rebuilding pool bars. Your wife calls that rationalization. If you can keep convincing yourself, go for it. I like being able to say I don't feel like working today I am going for a boat ride. |
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On 5/11/16 11:58 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 11 May 2016 15:01:34 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 5/11/16 2:49 PM, wrote: On Wed, 11 May 2016 13:49:14 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 5/11/2016 1:26 PM, wrote: On Wed, 11 May 2016 13:08:56 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: But no comment from you regarding the "Yeah, **** your country, duck the draft and get a jingle writing job," eh? Real critical thinking. D'uh. I said "many". "Many" doesn't mean "all". After hearing the implication that I am an uneducated moron often enough, I do tend to lash out. That is particularly true when it is coming from someone who is living on the margins of success. Somehow hearing a guy in his 70s saying he enjoys standing in the rain waiting for a bus is rewarding, defies logic. Yeah, my comment wasn't intended to be derogatory of you. I have a lot of respect for what you've accomplished in your life. I was just trying to avoid a Harry trap. Who is standing in the rain waiting for a bus? I suppose it never rains in DC. It certainly did when I was there ... standing in the rain waiting for the bus. Oh. Well, the commuter buses pretty much are on schedule and frequent. One of my downtown clients is on K Street and another is on L Street. The K Street client is on the corner opposite the bus stop, and the L Street client is a block and a street away. If it is pouring, I simply wait in the lobby of the K Street client's office building until I see the bus coming. And, of course, we're allowed umbrellas and raincoats up here. The work I get to do, I suspect, is a bit more exciting and mind challenging than hanging around in Estrogen, Florida, clearing lots and rebuilding pool bars. Your wife calls that rationalization. If you can keep convincing yourself, go for it. I like being able to say I don't feel like working today I am going for a boat ride. I like working with the smart people I work with...rec.bloats is not a place for intellectual stimulation. I suppose if I lived in Estrogen, Florida, I'd keep busy cleaning the pool and rebuilding the pool bar, eh? |
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On Thursday, May 12, 2016 at 5:25:03 AM UTC-5, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 5/11/16 11:58 PM, wrote: On Wed, 11 May 2016 15:01:34 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 5/11/16 2:49 PM, wrote: On Wed, 11 May 2016 13:49:14 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 5/11/2016 1:26 PM, wrote: On Wed, 11 May 2016 13:08:56 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: But no comment from you regarding the "Yeah, **** your country, duck the draft and get a jingle writing job," eh? Real critical thinking. D'uh. I said "many". "Many" doesn't mean "all". After hearing the implication that I am an uneducated moron often enough, I do tend to lash out. That is particularly true when it is coming from someone who is living on the margins of success. Somehow hearing a guy in his 70s saying he enjoys standing in the rain waiting for a bus is rewarding, defies logic. Yeah, my comment wasn't intended to be derogatory of you. I have a lot of respect for what you've accomplished in your life. I was just trying to avoid a Harry trap. Who is standing in the rain waiting for a bus? I suppose it never rains in DC. It certainly did when I was there ... standing in the rain waiting for the bus. Oh. Well, the commuter buses pretty much are on schedule and frequent. One of my downtown clients is on K Street and another is on L Street. The K Street client is on the corner opposite the bus stop, and the L Street client is a block and a street away. If it is pouring, I simply wait in the lobby of the K Street client's office building until I see the bus coming. And, of course, we're allowed umbrellas and raincoats up here. The work I get to do, I suspect, is a bit more exciting and mind challenging than hanging around in Estrogen, Florida, clearing lots and rebuilding pool bars. Your wife calls that rationalization. If you can keep convincing yourself, go for it. I like being able to say I don't feel like working today I am going for a boat ride. I like working with the smart people I work with...rec.bloats is not a place for intellectual stimulation. Be truthful Harry, if not for the intellectual stimulation, you wouldn't be here. |
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On 5/12/2016 6:41 AM, Tim wrote:
On Thursday, May 12, 2016 at 5:25:03 AM UTC-5, Keyser Söze wrote: On 5/11/16 11:58 PM, wrote: On Wed, 11 May 2016 15:01:34 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 5/11/16 2:49 PM, wrote: On Wed, 11 May 2016 13:49:14 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 5/11/2016 1:26 PM, wrote: On Wed, 11 May 2016 13:08:56 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: But no comment from you regarding the "Yeah, **** your country, duck the draft and get a jingle writing job," eh? Real critical thinking. D'uh. I said "many". "Many" doesn't mean "all". After hearing the implication that I am an uneducated moron often enough, I do tend to lash out. That is particularly true when it is coming from someone who is living on the margins of success. Somehow hearing a guy in his 70s saying he enjoys standing in the rain waiting for a bus is rewarding, defies logic. Yeah, my comment wasn't intended to be derogatory of you. I have a lot of respect for what you've accomplished in your life. I was just trying to avoid a Harry trap. Who is standing in the rain waiting for a bus? I suppose it never rains in DC. It certainly did when I was there ... standing in the rain waiting for the bus. Oh. Well, the commuter buses pretty much are on schedule and frequent. One of my downtown clients is on K Street and another is on L Street. The K Street client is on the corner opposite the bus stop, and the L Street client is a block and a street away. If it is pouring, I simply wait in the lobby of the K Street client's office building until I see the bus coming. And, of course, we're allowed umbrellas and raincoats up here. The work I get to do, I suspect, is a bit more exciting and mind challenging than hanging around in Estrogen, Florida, clearing lots and rebuilding pool bars. Your wife calls that rationalization. If you can keep convincing yourself, go for it. I like being able to say I don't feel like working today I am going for a boat ride. I like working with the smart people I work with...rec.bloats is not a place for intellectual stimulation. Be truthful Harry, if not for the intellectual stimulation, you wouldn't be here. I don't mind a stimulating discussion or debate; in fact I often enjoy them. But, it gets old when the other side just keeps repeating the same old mantra over and over and over. An original thought once in a while is refreshing and food for thought. Harry has lumped all who don't see things his way as being "stupid" or worse. That's not an intellectual discussion. |
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On Thursday, May 12, 2016 at 7:17:35 AM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 5/12/2016 6:41 AM, Tim wrote: On Thursday, May 12, 2016 at 5:25:03 AM UTC-5, Keyser Söze wrote: On 5/11/16 11:58 PM, wrote: On Wed, 11 May 2016 15:01:34 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 5/11/16 2:49 PM, wrote: On Wed, 11 May 2016 13:49:14 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 5/11/2016 1:26 PM, wrote: On Wed, 11 May 2016 13:08:56 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: But no comment from you regarding the "Yeah, **** your country, duck the draft and get a jingle writing job," eh? Real critical thinking. D'uh. I said "many". "Many" doesn't mean "all". After hearing the implication that I am an uneducated moron often enough, I do tend to lash out. That is particularly true when it is coming from someone who is living on the margins of success. Somehow hearing a guy in his 70s saying he enjoys standing in the rain waiting for a bus is rewarding, defies logic. Yeah, my comment wasn't intended to be derogatory of you. I have a lot of respect for what you've accomplished in your life. I was just trying to avoid a Harry trap. Who is standing in the rain waiting for a bus? I suppose it never rains in DC. It certainly did when I was there .... standing in the rain waiting for the bus. Oh. Well, the commuter buses pretty much are on schedule and frequent. |
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May 11Keyser Söze
- show quoted text - You are living proof that one cannot overstate the amount of ignorance and stupidity in rec.boats. History is full of martyrs who died for a cause and some of those deaths resulted in real, positive change for mankind. ..... Since when did lighting ones self up to make a statement make them a martyr? It never did. |
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On Thu, 12 May 2016 06:25:01 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote: I like working with the smart people I work with...rec.bloats is not a place for intellectual stimulation. I suppose if I lived in Estrogen, Florida, I'd keep busy cleaning the pool and rebuilding the pool bar, eh? I find building things to be very rewarding and the environmental scientists I work with when I am volunteering at DEP are every bit as stimulating as the political hacks and union thugs you work for. I am not riding on a bus, walking in rain snow and slush all winter to do it either. |
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On Thu, 12 May 2016 06:19:17 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote: May 11Keyser Söze - show quoted text - You are living proof that one cannot overstate the amount of ignorance and stupidity in rec.boats. History is full of martyrs who died for a cause and some of those deaths resulted in real, positive change for mankind. .... Since when did lighting ones self up to make a statement make them a martyr? It never did. I wonder how those monks made out when the communists took over. |
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On Wed, 11 May 2016 12:46:06 -0400, Keyser Sze wrote:
On 5/11/16 11:46 AM, Keine Krauseschei?e wrote: On Wed, 11 May 2016 08:01:57 -0400, Keyser Sze wrote: On 5/11/16 1:09 AM, wrote: On Tue, 10 May 2016 19:14:22 -0400, Keyser Sze wrote: It's not my fault that you and FlaJim the other right-wing Asshole were too stupid or lazy to get into a community college back in the day. Even a state four year college back then was cheap enough so that a student could pay his or her way with part time and summer job. Yeah, **** your country, duck the draft and get a jingle writing job. Helping your country prop up a series of brutal dictatorships, including one that resulted in Thch Qu?ng ??c, a Buddhist monk, setting himself on fire to protest Christian brutality, is not an example of appropriate patriotism. Oh, and your terminology is deficient, too. Continuing one's education is not "ducking" the draft so long as one is registered. It's too bad you didn't avail yourself of a formal higher education...you might have learned some critical thinking skills. In at least a half dozen posts you've told us how we should have gotten into at least a community college to escape the draft. What do *you* call that? To me, it's kinda chicken **** draft dodging. -- Well, you certainly didn't need college to evolve into chicken ****, did you? I won't pat myself on the back. Nice try though. -- Ban Krausescheie-spouting narcissists...not guns! |
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On Wed, 11 May 2016 15:28:51 -0400, Keyser Sze wrote:
On 5/11/16 3:19 PM, Califbill wrote: Keyser Sze wrote: On 5/11/16 12:30 PM, Califbill wrote: Keyser Sze wrote: On 5/11/16 10:24 AM, Califbill wrote: Tim wrote: 8:40 AMKeyser Sze - show quoted text - Well, of course you don't feel sorry for the monk, because he was a buddhist protesting christian barbarism and gross discrimination towards his people. The reality is that the self-immolation by that monk helped bring down a brutal government, albeit it was replaced by one that equaled it in corruption. The monk's act and the spreading of the photos of it around the world changed history. .... IE "look at me. I'm going to kill myself for a cause" whatever. Same goes for hunger strikes. Just a more permanent end to the kid who holds its breath till it turns blue... Harry must admire suicide bombers. You are living proof that one cannot overstate the amount of ignorance and stupidity in rec.boats. History is full of martyrs who died for a cause and some of those deaths resulted in real, positive change for mankind. So you love those suicide martyrs. You really are ignorant and stupid, aren't you? Just extrapolating from your statements. Stupid is as stupid does. Well, you *are* the one who made the statements! -- Ban Krausescheie-spouting narcissists...not guns! |
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