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Ryan P. May 6th 16 02:29 PM

My 1985 Mercury 75
 
So this week I'm going to get around to installing the aftermarket
power tilt & trim I bought over the winter. My lifting method is going
to be a come along and a good, solid tree branch in the back yard.

I did a bit of digging, and see that there is threaded area in the
opening AROUND the bolt that holds the flywheel on. Apparently this is
designed specifically for an eyebolt that you can use to lift the engine.

Problem is, I can't find a part number on the Mercury parts catalog
online for my particular engine, and I don't want to blindly order one
off eBay.

So, the question is.... Does anybody know if the lifting eyebolt
threads are "universal" across model years and sizes as is suggested by
the Amazon and eBay parts I've been able to find?

Keyser Söze May 6th 16 02:30 PM

My 1985 Mercury 75
 
On 5/6/16 9:29 AM, Ryan P. wrote:
So this week I'm going to get around to installing the aftermarket
power tilt & trim I bought over the winter. My lifting method is going
to be a come along and a good, solid tree branch in the back yard.

I did a bit of digging, and see that there is threaded area in the
opening AROUND the bolt that holds the flywheel on. Apparently this is
designed specifically for an eyebolt that you can use to lift the engine.

Problem is, I can't find a part number on the Mercury parts catalog
online for my particular engine, and I don't want to blindly order one
off eBay.

So, the question is.... Does anybody know if the lifting eyebolt
threads are "universal" across model years and sizes as is suggested by
the Amazon and eBay parts I've been able to find?



What does your local Mercury dealer say?

[email protected] May 6th 16 03:46 PM

My 1985 Mercury 75
 
On Fri, 6 May 2016 08:29:20 -0500, "Ryan P."
wrote:

So this week I'm going to get around to installing the aftermarket
power tilt & trim I bought over the winter. My lifting method is going
to be a come along and a good, solid tree branch in the back yard.

I did a bit of digging, and see that there is threaded area in the
opening AROUND the bolt that holds the flywheel on. Apparently this is
designed specifically for an eyebolt that you can use to lift the engine.

Problem is, I can't find a part number on the Mercury parts catalog
online for my particular engine, and I don't want to blindly order one
off eBay.

So, the question is.... Does anybody know if the lifting eyebolt
threads are "universal" across model years and sizes as is suggested by
the Amazon and eBay parts I've been able to find?


I picked mine up with a sling under the power head, right around the
lower cowl. I made a circle of rope smaller than the cowl and 2 ropes
going up and over, creating 4 lifting points. Hook the come along to
the loops created at the top.

The 1989 Merc/Yamaha 75 I had used a 36mm threaded insert that doubled
as a flywheel puller but I am not sure the older one was metric. I
never found one for less than $100 in those days and I was not doing
it.

Ryan P. May 6th 16 05:52 PM

My 1985 Mercury 75
 
On 5/6/2016 9:46 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 6 May 2016 08:29:20 -0500, "Ryan P."
wrote:

So this week I'm going to get around to installing the aftermarket
power tilt & trim I bought over the winter. My lifting method is going
to be a come along and a good, solid tree branch in the back yard.

I did a bit of digging, and see that there is threaded area in the
opening AROUND the bolt that holds the flywheel on. Apparently this is
designed specifically for an eyebolt that you can use to lift the engine.

Problem is, I can't find a part number on the Mercury parts catalog
online for my particular engine, and I don't want to blindly order one
off eBay.

So, the question is.... Does anybody know if the lifting eyebolt
threads are "universal" across model years and sizes as is suggested by
the Amazon and eBay parts I've been able to find?


I picked mine up with a sling under the power head, right around the
lower cowl. I made a circle of rope smaller than the cowl and 2 ropes
going up and over, creating 4 lifting points. Hook the come along to
the loops created at the top.

The 1989 Merc/Yamaha 75 I had used a 36mm threaded insert that doubled
as a flywheel puller but I am not sure the older one was metric. I
never found one for less than $100 in those days and I was not doing
it.


So I was able to find thread information for the plug that covers the
flywheel nut (its missing from my motor, or else I would have just taken
it to a hardware store and found what I needed). So I'm going to try
this part from amazon:
http://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00MPUM03S

A combo flywheel puller and lifter for $40, with free same day
delivery. Why not? Good use of an Amazon gift card.


[email protected] May 6th 16 06:14 PM

My 1985 Mercury 75
 
On Fri, 6 May 2016 11:52:55 -0500, "Ryan P."
wrote:

On 5/6/2016 9:46 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 6 May 2016 08:29:20 -0500, "Ryan P."
wrote:

So this week I'm going to get around to installing the aftermarket
power tilt & trim I bought over the winter. My lifting method is going
to be a come along and a good, solid tree branch in the back yard.

I did a bit of digging, and see that there is threaded area in the
opening AROUND the bolt that holds the flywheel on. Apparently this is
designed specifically for an eyebolt that you can use to lift the engine.

Problem is, I can't find a part number on the Mercury parts catalog
online for my particular engine, and I don't want to blindly order one
off eBay.

So, the question is.... Does anybody know if the lifting eyebolt
threads are "universal" across model years and sizes as is suggested by
the Amazon and eBay parts I've been able to find?


I picked mine up with a sling under the power head, right around the
lower cowl. I made a circle of rope smaller than the cowl and 2 ropes
going up and over, creating 4 lifting points. Hook the come along to
the loops created at the top.

The 1989 Merc/Yamaha 75 I had used a 36mm threaded insert that doubled
as a flywheel puller but I am not sure the older one was metric. I
never found one for less than $100 in those days and I was not doing
it.


So I was able to find thread information for the plug that covers the
flywheel nut (its missing from my motor, or else I would have just taken
it to a hardware store and found what I needed). So I'm going to try
this part from amazon:
http://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00MPUM03S

A combo flywheel puller and lifter for $40, with free same day
delivery. Why not? Good use of an Amazon gift card.


That looks like the one but mine was supposed to be metric since that
powerhead was a Yamaha, licensed to Mercury.

My 2002 Merc had lift rings on the block, as does my F70 Yamaha.
(again, the same block)

Ryan P. May 6th 16 07:41 PM

My 1985 Mercury 75
 
On 5/6/2016 12:14 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 6 May 2016 11:52:55 -0500, "Ryan P."
wrote:

On 5/6/2016 9:46 AM,
wrote:
On Fri, 6 May 2016 08:29:20 -0500, "Ryan P."
wrote:

So this week I'm going to get around to installing the aftermarket
power tilt & trim I bought over the winter. My lifting method is going
to be a come along and a good, solid tree branch in the back yard.

I did a bit of digging, and see that there is threaded area in the
opening AROUND the bolt that holds the flywheel on. Apparently this is
designed specifically for an eyebolt that you can use to lift the engine.

Problem is, I can't find a part number on the Mercury parts catalog
online for my particular engine, and I don't want to blindly order one
off eBay.

So, the question is.... Does anybody know if the lifting eyebolt
threads are "universal" across model years and sizes as is suggested by
the Amazon and eBay parts I've been able to find?

I picked mine up with a sling under the power head, right around the
lower cowl. I made a circle of rope smaller than the cowl and 2 ropes
going up and over, creating 4 lifting points. Hook the come along to
the loops created at the top.

The 1989 Merc/Yamaha 75 I had used a 36mm threaded insert that doubled
as a flywheel puller but I am not sure the older one was metric. I
never found one for less than $100 in those days and I was not doing
it.


So I was able to find thread information for the plug that covers the
flywheel nut (its missing from my motor, or else I would have just taken
it to a hardware store and found what I needed). So I'm going to try
this part from amazon:
http://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00MPUM03S

A combo flywheel puller and lifter for $40, with free same day
delivery. Why not? Good use of an Amazon gift card.


That looks like the one but mine was supposed to be metric since that
powerhead was a Yamaha, licensed to Mercury.

My 2002 Merc had lift rings on the block, as does my F70 Yamaha.
(again, the same block)


Yeah, that would have been too simple. I pulled the covers off last
weekend and checked.

Ryan P. May 17th 16 07:48 PM

My 1985 Mercury 75
 
On 5/6/2016 12:14 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 6 May 2016 11:52:55 -0500, "Ryan P."
wrote:

On 5/6/2016 9:46 AM,
wrote:
On Fri, 6 May 2016 08:29:20 -0500, "Ryan P."
wrote:

So this week I'm going to get around to installing the aftermarket
power tilt & trim I bought over the winter. My lifting method is going
to be a come along and a good, solid tree branch in the back yard.

I did a bit of digging, and see that there is threaded area in the
opening AROUND the bolt that holds the flywheel on. Apparently this is
designed specifically for an eyebolt that you can use to lift the engine.

Problem is, I can't find a part number on the Mercury parts catalog
online for my particular engine, and I don't want to blindly order one
off eBay.

So, the question is.... Does anybody know if the lifting eyebolt
threads are "universal" across model years and sizes as is suggested by
the Amazon and eBay parts I've been able to find?

I picked mine up with a sling under the power head, right around the
lower cowl. I made a circle of rope smaller than the cowl and 2 ropes
going up and over, creating 4 lifting points. Hook the come along to
the loops created at the top.

The 1989 Merc/Yamaha 75 I had used a 36mm threaded insert that doubled
as a flywheel puller but I am not sure the older one was metric. I
never found one for less than $100 in those days and I was not doing
it.


So I was able to find thread information for the plug that covers the
flywheel nut (its missing from my motor, or else I would have just taken
it to a hardware store and found what I needed). So I'm going to try
this part from amazon:
http://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00MPUM03S

A combo flywheel puller and lifter for $40, with free same day
delivery. Why not? Good use of an Amazon gift card.


That looks like the one but mine was supposed to be metric since that
powerhead was a Yamaha, licensed to Mercury.

My 2002 Merc had lift rings on the block, as does my F70 Yamaha.
(again, the same block)


Everything went well with my installation. My girlfriend's uncle owns
a pier shop up in Manitowoc and let me use his shop and overhead crane
to lift the motor. I have to help him with a pier install in exchange,
but I think that's a reasonable price to pay.

The only thing that went "wrong" was the new steering cable I put on
last year was about 6 inches too short to reconnect, so I had to buy a
14' cable. Switched that out in about an hour the next day, and we're
all good.

There was great debate over whether to lower the engine a peg, since
now it sits a little higher when vertical, but with the additional
setback (about 7") and additional down tilt, we figured the water would
be quiet enough to give me good performance. I can always lower it a
notch if I don't like the way it performs this weekend.

Keine Krausescheiße May 17th 16 09:08 PM

My 1985 Mercury 75
 
On Tue, 17 May 2016 13:48:32 -0500, "Ryan P." wrote:

On 5/6/2016 12:14 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 6 May 2016 11:52:55 -0500, "Ryan P."
wrote:

On 5/6/2016 9:46 AM,
wrote:
On Fri, 6 May 2016 08:29:20 -0500, "Ryan P."
wrote:

So this week I'm going to get around to installing the aftermarket
power tilt & trim I bought over the winter. My lifting method is going
to be a come along and a good, solid tree branch in the back yard.

I did a bit of digging, and see that there is threaded area in the
opening AROUND the bolt that holds the flywheel on. Apparently this is
designed specifically for an eyebolt that you can use to lift the engine.

Problem is, I can't find a part number on the Mercury parts catalog
online for my particular engine, and I don't want to blindly order one
off eBay.

So, the question is.... Does anybody know if the lifting eyebolt
threads are "universal" across model years and sizes as is suggested by
the Amazon and eBay parts I've been able to find?

I picked mine up with a sling under the power head, right around the
lower cowl. I made a circle of rope smaller than the cowl and 2 ropes
going up and over, creating 4 lifting points. Hook the come along to
the loops created at the top.

The 1989 Merc/Yamaha 75 I had used a 36mm threaded insert that doubled
as a flywheel puller but I am not sure the older one was metric. I
never found one for less than $100 in those days and I was not doing
it.

So I was able to find thread information for the plug that covers the
flywheel nut (its missing from my motor, or else I would have just taken
it to a hardware store and found what I needed). So I'm going to try
this part from amazon:
http://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00MPUM03S

A combo flywheel puller and lifter for $40, with free same day
delivery. Why not? Good use of an Amazon gift card.


That looks like the one but mine was supposed to be metric since that
powerhead was a Yamaha, licensed to Mercury.

My 2002 Merc had lift rings on the block, as does my F70 Yamaha.
(again, the same block)


Everything went well with my installation. My girlfriend's uncle owns
a pier shop up in Manitowoc and let me use his shop and overhead crane
to lift the motor. I have to help him with a pier install in exchange,
but I think that's a reasonable price to pay.

The only thing that went "wrong" was the new steering cable I put on
last year was about 6 inches too short to reconnect, so I had to buy a
14' cable. Switched that out in about an hour the next day, and we're
all good.

There was great debate over whether to lower the engine a peg, since
now it sits a little higher when vertical, but with the additional
setback (about 7") and additional down tilt, we figured the water would
be quiet enough to give me good performance. I can always lower it a
notch if I don't like the way it performs this weekend.


Best of luck!
--

Ban Krausescheiße-spouting narcissists...not guns!

Ryan P. May 23rd 16 02:33 PM

My 1985 Mercury 75
 
On 5/17/2016 1:48 PM, Ryan P. wrote:

There was great debate over whether to lower the engine a peg, since
now it sits a little higher when vertical, but with the additional
setback (about 7") and additional down tilt, we figured the water would
be quiet enough to give me good performance. I can always lower it a
notch if I don't like the way it performs this weekend.


And the answer is... I don't like the way it performs. Oh, it gets on
plain super fast, but now I have a HARD pull to the right. I know I
should be able to tilt the motor back up to about vertical, but now at
cruising speed, vertical brings the prop up too high and I get excessive
revving.

Am I right in thinking that the hard pull is because the motor is
tilted in too far? Will lowering the motor a inch (or two) actually
alleviate the problem by letting me tilt out farther?

Thanks!

[email protected] May 23rd 16 03:46 PM

My 1985 Mercury 75
 
On Mon, 23 May 2016 08:33:24 -0500, "Ryan P."
wrote:

On 5/17/2016 1:48 PM, Ryan P. wrote:

There was great debate over whether to lower the engine a peg, since
now it sits a little higher when vertical, but with the additional
setback (about 7") and additional down tilt, we figured the water would
be quiet enough to give me good performance. I can always lower it a
notch if I don't like the way it performs this weekend.


And the answer is... I don't like the way it performs. Oh, it gets on
plain super fast, but now I have a HARD pull to the right. I know I
should be able to tilt the motor back up to about vertical, but now at
cruising speed, vertical brings the prop up too high and I get excessive
revving.

Am I right in thinking that the hard pull is because the motor is
tilted in too far? Will lowering the motor a inch (or two) actually
alleviate the problem by letting me tilt out farther?

Thanks!


Have you tried adjusting the trim tab?


Ryan P. May 23rd 16 03:56 PM

My 1985 Mercury 75
 
On 5/23/2016 9:46 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 23 May 2016 08:33:24 -0500, "Ryan P."
wrote:

On 5/17/2016 1:48 PM, Ryan P. wrote:

There was great debate over whether to lower the engine a peg, since
now it sits a little higher when vertical, but with the additional
setback (about 7") and additional down tilt, we figured the water would
be quiet enough to give me good performance. I can always lower it a
notch if I don't like the way it performs this weekend.


And the answer is... I don't like the way it performs. Oh, it gets on
plain super fast, but now I have a HARD pull to the right. I know I
should be able to tilt the motor back up to about vertical, but now at
cruising speed, vertical brings the prop up too high and I get excessive
revving.

Am I right in thinking that the hard pull is because the motor is
tilted in too far? Will lowering the motor a inch (or two) actually
alleviate the problem by letting me tilt out farther?

Thanks!


Have you tried adjusting the trim tab?


Won't the trim tab only give me neutral steering at one specific tilt
and speed?

Keine Krausescheiße May 23rd 16 04:05 PM

My 1985 Mercury 75
 
On Mon, 23 May 2016 08:33:24 -0500, "Ryan P." wrote:

On 5/17/2016 1:48 PM, Ryan P. wrote:

There was great debate over whether to lower the engine a peg, since
now it sits a little higher when vertical, but with the additional
setback (about 7") and additional down tilt, we figured the water would
be quiet enough to give me good performance. I can always lower it a
notch if I don't like the way it performs this weekend.


And the answer is... I don't like the way it performs. Oh, it gets on
plain super fast, but now I have a HARD pull to the right. I know I
should be able to tilt the motor back up to about vertical, but now at
cruising speed, vertical brings the prop up too high and I get excessive
revving.

Am I right in thinking that the hard pull is because the motor is
tilted in too far? Will lowering the motor a inch (or two) actually
alleviate the problem by letting me tilt out farther?

Thanks!


Here's a link to some info you've probably already looked at.

http://www.thehulltruth.com/boating-...uld-cause.html

--

Ban Krausescheiße-spouting narcissists...not guns!

Justan Olphart[_2_] May 23rd 16 04:06 PM

My 1985 Mercury 75
 
On 5/23/2016 10:46 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 23 May 2016 08:33:24 -0500, "Ryan P."
wrote:

On 5/17/2016 1:48 PM, Ryan P. wrote:

There was great debate over whether to lower the engine a peg, since
now it sits a little higher when vertical, but with the additional
setback (about 7") and additional down tilt, we figured the water would
be quiet enough to give me good performance. I can always lower it a
notch if I don't like the way it performs this weekend.


And the answer is... I don't like the way it performs. Oh, it gets on
plain super fast, but now I have a HARD pull to the right. I know I
should be able to tilt the motor back up to about vertical, but now at
cruising speed, vertical brings the prop up too high and I get excessive
revving.

Am I right in thinking that the hard pull is because the motor is
tilted in too far? Will lowering the motor a inch (or two) actually
alleviate the problem by letting me tilt out farther?

Thanks!


Have you tried adjusting the trim tab?

That might help but I suspect he's getting bow steer. He needs to lower
the motor and make sure he has some bow lift and the bow wake starts
about 1/3 of a boat length from the bow. Once he has that he can tweak
for the performance he wants.

Justan Olphart[_2_] May 23rd 16 04:11 PM

My 1985 Mercury 75
 
On 5/23/2016 10:56 AM, Ryan P. wrote:
On 5/23/2016 9:46 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 23 May 2016 08:33:24 -0500, "Ryan P."
wrote:

On 5/17/2016 1:48 PM, Ryan P. wrote:

There was great debate over whether to lower the engine a peg, since
now it sits a little higher when vertical, but with the additional
setback (about 7") and additional down tilt, we figured the water would
be quiet enough to give me good performance. I can always lower it a
notch if I don't like the way it performs this weekend.

And the answer is... I don't like the way it performs. Oh, it gets on
plain super fast, but now I have a HARD pull to the right. I know I
should be able to tilt the motor back up to about vertical, but now at
cruising speed, vertical brings the prop up too high and I get excessive
revving.

Am I right in thinking that the hard pull is because the motor is
tilted in too far? Will lowering the motor a inch (or two) actually
alleviate the problem by letting me tilt out farther?

Thanks!


Have you tried adjusting the trim tab?


Won't the trim tab only give me neutral steering at one specific tilt
and speed?


You'd be surprised at how much a little tweak in the tab effects
steering effort for better or worse.

Ryan P. May 23rd 16 04:32 PM

My 1985 Mercury 75
 
On 5/23/2016 10:05 AM, Keine Krauseschei�e wrote:
On Mon, 23 May 2016 08:33:24 -0500, "Ryan P." wrote:

On 5/17/2016 1:48 PM, Ryan P. wrote:

There was great debate over whether to lower the engine a peg, since
now it sits a little higher when vertical, but with the additional
setback (about 7") and additional down tilt, we figured the water would
be quiet enough to give me good performance. I can always lower it a
notch if I don't like the way it performs this weekend.


And the answer is... I don't like the way it performs. Oh, it gets on
plain super fast, but now I have a HARD pull to the right. I know I
should be able to tilt the motor back up to about vertical, but now at
cruising speed, vertical brings the prop up too high and I get excessive
revving.

Am I right in thinking that the hard pull is because the motor is
tilted in too far? Will lowering the motor a inch (or two) actually
alleviate the problem by letting me tilt out farther?

Thanks!


Here's a link to some info you've probably already looked at.

http://www.thehulltruth.com/boating-...uld-cause.html


Yes, that is one of the first threads I read. I had thought about a
NFB helm when I was replacing it last year, but I'm glad I didn't.
While it stay on tack if I let go of the helm, I think I'd still have
the issue of it being very difficult to turn the wheel to the left.

The best line I got out of that thread was:

"I can't find it right now but Mercury Marine used to have words and
music describing propeller torque. It was crystal clear that when the
motor is trimmed down/in torque will want to make the boat turn to the
right. When the prop shaft is parallel to the surface of the water the
torque (effort to turn right or left) will be the same. When the motor
is trimmed up/out the boat will want to turn to the left.

The procedure is to find the trim setting that provides most efficient
operation. Then adjust the trim tab anode, if necessary, to eliminate
steering torque at that trim position. "

Ryan P. May 23rd 16 04:33 PM

My 1985 Mercury 75
 
On 5/23/2016 10:06 AM, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 5/23/2016 10:46 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 23 May 2016 08:33:24 -0500, "Ryan P."
wrote:

On 5/17/2016 1:48 PM, Ryan P. wrote:

There was great debate over whether to lower the engine a peg, since
now it sits a little higher when vertical, but with the additional
setback (about 7") and additional down tilt, we figured the water would
be quiet enough to give me good performance. I can always lower it a
notch if I don't like the way it performs this weekend.

And the answer is... I don't like the way it performs. Oh, it gets on
plain super fast, but now I have a HARD pull to the right. I know I
should be able to tilt the motor back up to about vertical, but now at
cruising speed, vertical brings the prop up too high and I get excessive
revving.

Am I right in thinking that the hard pull is because the motor is
tilted in too far? Will lowering the motor a inch (or two) actually
alleviate the problem by letting me tilt out farther?

Thanks!


Have you tried adjusting the trim tab?

That might help but I suspect he's getting bow steer. He needs to lower
the motor and make sure he has some bow lift and the bow wake starts
about 1/3 of a boat length from the bow. Once he has that he can tweak
for the performance he wants.


So that being said, if I had neutral steering before I added the 7"
setback from the power tilt unit, Do I need to drop the motor down 1" to
make it equal with its height prior to the modification, or do I need to
drop it farther?

Justan Olphart[_2_] May 23rd 16 04:59 PM

My 1985 Mercury 75
 
On 5/23/2016 11:33 AM, Ryan P. wrote:
On 5/23/2016 10:06 AM, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 5/23/2016 10:46 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 23 May 2016 08:33:24 -0500, "Ryan P."
wrote:

On 5/17/2016 1:48 PM, Ryan P. wrote:

There was great debate over whether to lower the engine a peg, since
now it sits a little higher when vertical, but with the additional
setback (about 7") and additional down tilt, we figured the water
would
be quiet enough to give me good performance. I can always lower it a
notch if I don't like the way it performs this weekend.

And the answer is... I don't like the way it performs. Oh, it gets on
plain super fast, but now I have a HARD pull to the right. I know I
should be able to tilt the motor back up to about vertical, but now at
cruising speed, vertical brings the prop up too high and I get
excessive
revving.

Am I right in thinking that the hard pull is because the motor is
tilted in too far? Will lowering the motor a inch (or two) actually
alleviate the problem by letting me tilt out farther?

Thanks!

Have you tried adjusting the trim tab?

That might help but I suspect he's getting bow steer. He needs to lower
the motor and make sure he has some bow lift and the bow wake starts
about 1/3 of a boat length from the bow. Once he has that he can tweak
for the performance he wants.


So that being said, if I had neutral steering before I added the 7"
setback from the power tilt unit, Do I need to drop the motor down 1" to
make it equal with its height prior to the modification, or do I need to
drop it farther?

There's no formula. It's all trial and error.

[email protected] May 23rd 16 09:27 PM

My 1985 Mercury 75
 
On Mon, 23 May 2016 11:59:45 -0400, Justan Olphart
wrote:

On 5/23/2016 11:33 AM, Ryan P. wrote:
On 5/23/2016 10:06 AM, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 5/23/2016 10:46 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 23 May 2016 08:33:24 -0500, "Ryan P."
wrote:

On 5/17/2016 1:48 PM, Ryan P. wrote:

There was great debate over whether to lower the engine a peg, since
now it sits a little higher when vertical, but with the additional
setback (about 7") and additional down tilt, we figured the water
would
be quiet enough to give me good performance. I can always lower it a
notch if I don't like the way it performs this weekend.

And the answer is... I don't like the way it performs. Oh, it gets on
plain super fast, but now I have a HARD pull to the right. I know I
should be able to tilt the motor back up to about vertical, but now at
cruising speed, vertical brings the prop up too high and I get
excessive
revving.

Am I right in thinking that the hard pull is because the motor is
tilted in too far? Will lowering the motor a inch (or two) actually
alleviate the problem by letting me tilt out farther?

Thanks!

Have you tried adjusting the trim tab?

That might help but I suspect he's getting bow steer. He needs to lower
the motor and make sure he has some bow lift and the bow wake starts
about 1/3 of a boat length from the bow. Once he has that he can tweak
for the performance he wants.


So that being said, if I had neutral steering before I added the 7"
setback from the power tilt unit, Do I need to drop the motor down 1" to
make it equal with its height prior to the modification, or do I need to
drop it farther?

There's no formula. It's all trial and error.


I usually use a sharpie pen and mark which way it was pulling at each
adjustment I try. After a few tries you can get a pretty good guess
which one is the best compromise. I usually want it nulled out at
around 4000 RM add the best trim.

Ryan P. May 23rd 16 09:40 PM

My 1985 Mercury 75
 
On 5/23/2016 10:59 AM, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 5/23/2016 11:33 AM, Ryan P. wrote:
On 5/23/2016 10:06 AM, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 5/23/2016 10:46 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 23 May 2016 08:33:24 -0500, "Ryan P."
wrote:

On 5/17/2016 1:48 PM, Ryan P. wrote:

There was great debate over whether to lower the engine a peg,
since
now it sits a little higher when vertical, but with the additional
setback (about 7") and additional down tilt, we figured the water
would
be quiet enough to give me good performance. I can always lower it a
notch if I don't like the way it performs this weekend.

And the answer is... I don't like the way it performs. Oh, it
gets on
plain super fast, but now I have a HARD pull to the right. I know I
should be able to tilt the motor back up to about vertical, but now at
cruising speed, vertical brings the prop up too high and I get
excessive
revving.

Am I right in thinking that the hard pull is because the motor is
tilted in too far? Will lowering the motor a inch (or two) actually
alleviate the problem by letting me tilt out farther?

Thanks!

Have you tried adjusting the trim tab?

That might help but I suspect he's getting bow steer. He needs to lower
the motor and make sure he has some bow lift and the bow wake starts
about 1/3 of a boat length from the bow. Once he has that he can tweak
for the performance he wants.


So that being said, if I had neutral steering before I added the 7"
setback from the power tilt unit, Do I need to drop the motor down 1" to
make it equal with its height prior to the modification, or do I need to
drop it farther?

There's no formula. It's all trial and error.


Alright... Sounds like I should lower the motor so that when vertical,
it is at its original depth from before I installed the power tilt.

If I still have some pull, I'll play with the trim tab. If it pulls
to the right, I need to adjust the tab counterclockwise, correct?

Ryan P. May 23rd 16 09:44 PM

My 1985 Mercury 75
 
On 5/23/2016 3:27 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 23 May 2016 11:59:45 -0400, Justan Olphart
wrote:

On 5/23/2016 11:33 AM, Ryan P. wrote:
On 5/23/2016 10:06 AM, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 5/23/2016 10:46 AM,
wrote:
On Mon, 23 May 2016 08:33:24 -0500, "Ryan P."
wrote:

On 5/17/2016 1:48 PM, Ryan P. wrote:

There was great debate over whether to lower the engine a peg, since
now it sits a little higher when vertical, but with the additional
setback (about 7") and additional down tilt, we figured the water
would
be quiet enough to give me good performance. I can always lower it a
notch if I don't like the way it performs this weekend.

And the answer is... I don't like the way it performs. Oh, it gets on
plain super fast, but now I have a HARD pull to the right. I know I
should be able to tilt the motor back up to about vertical, but now at
cruising speed, vertical brings the prop up too high and I get
excessive
revving.

Am I right in thinking that the hard pull is because the motor is
tilted in too far? Will lowering the motor a inch (or two) actually
alleviate the problem by letting me tilt out farther?

Thanks!

Have you tried adjusting the trim tab?

That might help but I suspect he's getting bow steer. He needs to lower
the motor and make sure he has some bow lift and the bow wake starts
about 1/3 of a boat length from the bow. Once he has that he can tweak
for the performance he wants.

So that being said, if I had neutral steering before I added the 7"
setback from the power tilt unit, Do I need to drop the motor down 1" to
make it equal with its height prior to the modification, or do I need to
drop it farther?

There's no formula. It's all trial and error.


I usually use a sharpie pen and mark which way it was pulling at each
adjustment I try. After a few tries you can get a pretty good guess
which one is the best compromise. I usually want it nulled out at
around 4000 RM add the best trim.


Excellent idea. Thanks!

Keine Krausescheiße May 23rd 16 11:44 PM

My 1985 Mercury 75
 
On Mon, 23 May 2016 15:40:06 -0500, "Ryan P." wrote:

On 5/23/2016 10:59 AM, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 5/23/2016 11:33 AM, Ryan P. wrote:
On 5/23/2016 10:06 AM, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 5/23/2016 10:46 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 23 May 2016 08:33:24 -0500, "Ryan P."
wrote:

On 5/17/2016 1:48 PM, Ryan P. wrote:

There was great debate over whether to lower the engine a peg,
since
now it sits a little higher when vertical, but with the additional
setback (about 7") and additional down tilt, we figured the water
would
be quiet enough to give me good performance. I can always lower it a
notch if I don't like the way it performs this weekend.

And the answer is... I don't like the way it performs. Oh, it
gets on
plain super fast, but now I have a HARD pull to the right. I know I
should be able to tilt the motor back up to about vertical, but now at
cruising speed, vertical brings the prop up too high and I get
excessive
revving.

Am I right in thinking that the hard pull is because the motor is
tilted in too far? Will lowering the motor a inch (or two) actually
alleviate the problem by letting me tilt out farther?

Thanks!

Have you tried adjusting the trim tab?

That might help but I suspect he's getting bow steer. He needs to lower
the motor and make sure he has some bow lift and the bow wake starts
about 1/3 of a boat length from the bow. Once he has that he can tweak
for the performance he wants.

So that being said, if I had neutral steering before I added the 7"
setback from the power tilt unit, Do I need to drop the motor down 1" to
make it equal with its height prior to the modification, or do I need to
drop it farther?

There's no formula. It's all trial and error.


Alright... Sounds like I should lower the motor so that when vertical,
it is at its original depth from before I installed the power tilt.

If I still have some pull, I'll play with the trim tab. If it pulls
to the right, I need to adjust the tab counterclockwise, correct?


I believe you are correct.
--

Ban Krausescheiße-spouting narcissists...not guns!

Alex[_9_] May 24th 16 01:27 AM

My 1985 Mercury 75
 
Ryan P. wrote:
On 5/23/2016 10:06 AM, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 5/23/2016 10:46 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 23 May 2016 08:33:24 -0500, "Ryan P."
wrote:

On 5/17/2016 1:48 PM, Ryan P. wrote:

There was great debate over whether to lower the engine a peg,
since
now it sits a little higher when vertical, but with the additional
setback (about 7") and additional down tilt, we figured the water
would
be quiet enough to give me good performance. I can always lower it a
notch if I don't like the way it performs this weekend.

And the answer is... I don't like the way it performs. Oh, it
gets on
plain super fast, but now I have a HARD pull to the right. I know I
should be able to tilt the motor back up to about vertical, but now at
cruising speed, vertical brings the prop up too high and I get
excessive
revving.

Am I right in thinking that the hard pull is because the motor is
tilted in too far? Will lowering the motor a inch (or two) actually
alleviate the problem by letting me tilt out farther?

Thanks!

Have you tried adjusting the trim tab?

That might help but I suspect he's getting bow steer. He needs to lower
the motor and make sure he has some bow lift and the bow wake starts
about 1/3 of a boat length from the bow. Once he has that he can tweak
for the performance he wants.


So that being said, if I had neutral steering before I added the 7"
setback from the power tilt unit, Do I need to drop the motor down 1"
to make it equal with its height prior to the modification, or do I
need to drop it farther?


You may need one of these:

http://www.bobsmachine.com/True-Trac...Plates_c36.htm

[email protected] May 26th 16 05:34 AM

My 1985 Mercury 75
 
On Wed, 25 May 2016 15:27:12 -0500, "Ryan P."
wrote:

On 5/25/2016 1:45 PM, wrote:



That was the sort of answers that had me slinging mine under the lower
cowl. Look at that knot they use for nets, rig 4 up leads and make the
basket a snug fit around the leg and up you go.


That was going to be my next option if I couldn't locate the lifting
eye. Now that I did it once, I feel more comfortable doing it without a
crane. I'll use the ol' "Lower the rear of the trailer as far as it
will go, hook a chain to the lifting eye, secure to a thick tree bough,
remove the bolts, raise the rear of the trailer, rebolt" method to move
my motor down a notch.

I've got a nice maple in the back yard that should be perfect.

Should go a lot faster than trailering an hour up to Manitowoc to use
the overhead crane.


I rigged a lifting eye over the garage door for stuff like this. It is
hanging on the lower chord of the truss, right against the wall.


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