Why Carpenters are an endangered species
 

This old house (PBS) is doing a show as we speak about Connor Homes.
They prefab wall panels in a factory and pretty much cut all of the
discrete lumber in a computer aided factory. All the "assembler" does
is stand them up and nail them together.
So much for those guys who spent decades developing their skill.
If you can put an Ikea book case together, you can build a house ...
and it ends up being faster and cheaper. These are not "boxes", they
are wall panels so you can build just about anything.

Why Carpenters are an endangered species
 

We've had prefab houses in this area since WW2.

Why Carpenters are an endangered species
 

On Fri, 1 Apr 2016 04:22:45 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

We've had prefab houses in this area since WW2.

He's not talking about pre-fab houses.
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Why Carpenters are an endangered species
 

On 4/1/16 7:22 AM, True North wrote:
We've had prefab houses in this area since WW2.


And modular houses, too. Nothing new.

Why Carpenters are an endangered species
 

On 4/1/16 1:21 AM, wrote:
This old house (PBS) is doing a show as we speak about Connor Homes.
They prefab wall panels in a factory and pretty much cut all of the
discrete lumber in a computer aided factory. All the "assembler" does
is stand them up and nail them together.
So much for those guys who spent decades developing their skill.
If you can put an Ikea book case together, you can build a house ...
and it ends up being faster and cheaper. These are not "boxes", they
are wall panels so you can build just about anything.



I know this runs against your grain, but "faster and cheaper" typically
isn't "better."

Why Carpenters are an endangered species
 

On Fri, 1 Apr 2016 04:22:45 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:

We've had prefab houses in this area since WW2.

This is more than a simple prefab. You can order just about anything
you want, not selecting a bunch of boxes.

Why Carpenters are an endangered species
 

On Fri, 01 Apr 2016 11:13:10 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 1 Apr 2016 04:22:45 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:

We've had prefab houses in this area since WW2.

This is more than a simple prefab. You can order just about anything
you want, not selecting a bunch of boxes.

===

Is all of the finish carpentry like trim and moldings already in
place?

Why Carpenters are an endangered species
 

On Fri, 1 Apr 2016 08:06:50 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 4/1/16 7:22 AM, True North wrote:
We've had prefab houses in this area since WW2.


And modular houses, too. Nothing new.

These are not boxes. The significant part is the amount of computer
assisted construction and the variability of designs possible. I know
about modular homes, My BIL built one down there in Ridge.

Why Carpenters are an endangered species
 

On Fri, 1 Apr 2016 08:29:01 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 4/1/16 1:21 AM, wrote:
This old house (PBS) is doing a show as we speak about Connor Homes.
They prefab wall panels in a factory and pretty much cut all of the
discrete lumber in a computer aided factory. All the "assembler" does
is stand them up and nail them together.
So much for those guys who spent decades developing their skill.
If you can put an Ikea book case together, you can build a house ...
and it ends up being faster and cheaper. These are not "boxes", they
are wall panels so you can build just about anything.



I know this runs against your grain, but "faster and cheaper" typically
isn't "better."

In this case it might be. When each panel is an engineered structure
where cuts and nailing schedules are done by the computer, you will
end up with a stronger building.

Why Carpenters are an endangered species
 

On Fri, 01 Apr 2016 11:16:49 -0400,
wrote:

On Fri, 01 Apr 2016 11:13:10 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 1 Apr 2016 04:22:45 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:

We've had prefab houses in this area since WW2.

This is more than a simple prefab. You can order just about anything
you want, not selecting a bunch of boxes.

===

Is all of the finish carpentry like trim and moldings already in
place?

Shipped separately but this company custom cuts it all with antique
look profile cutters. The windows are mahogany.

Why Carpenters are an endangered species
 

On 4/1/2016 10:23 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 1 Apr 2016 08:29:01 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 4/1/16 1:21 AM, wrote:
This old house (PBS) is doing a show as we speak about Connor Homes.
They prefab wall panels in a factory and pretty much cut all of the
discrete lumber in a computer aided factory. All the "assembler" does
is stand them up and nail them together.
So much for those guys who spent decades developing their skill.
If you can put an Ikea book case together, you can build a house ...
and it ends up being faster and cheaper. These are not "boxes", they
are wall panels so you can build just about anything.



I know this runs against your grain, but "faster and cheaper" typically
isn't "better."

In this case it might be. When each panel is an engineered structure
where cuts and nailing schedules are done by the computer, you will
end up with a stronger building.

It won't take long for unscrupulous "builders" to "specialize" in
assembling these for people and finding ways to cut corners on the
assembly. And they will happily provide their own Electrical, Plumbing
and HVAC contractors to ensure you get a great deal...

Why Carpenters are an endangered species
 

On Fri, 1 Apr 2016 13:13:47 -0500, "Ryan P."
wrote:

On 4/1/2016 10:23 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 1 Apr 2016 08:29:01 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 4/1/16 1:21 AM, wrote:
This old house (PBS) is doing a show as we speak about Connor Homes.
They prefab wall panels in a factory and pretty much cut all of the
discrete lumber in a computer aided factory. All the "assembler" does
is stand them up and nail them together.
So much for those guys who spent decades developing their skill.
If you can put an Ikea book case together, you can build a house ...
and it ends up being faster and cheaper. These are not "boxes", they
are wall panels so you can build just about anything.



I know this runs against your grain, but "faster and cheaper" typically
isn't "better."

In this case it might be. When each panel is an engineered structure
where cuts and nailing schedules are done by the computer, you will
end up with a stronger building.

It won't take long for unscrupulous "builders" to "specialize" in
assembling these for people and finding ways to cut corners on the
assembly. And they will happily provide their own Electrical, Plumbing
and HVAC contractors to ensure you get a great deal...

I am not sure if it was just for PBS but they said they send a factory
rep to the job to supervise assembly. Who that "rep" is probably
varies but I assume he knows how to read the plan.

Why Carpenters are an endangered species
 

wrote:
On Fri, 1 Apr 2016 13:13:47 -0500, "Ryan P."
wrote:

On 4/1/2016 10:23 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 1 Apr 2016 08:29:01 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 4/1/16 1:21 AM, wrote:
This old house (PBS) is doing a show as we speak about Connor Homes.
They prefab wall panels in a factory and pretty much cut all of the
discrete lumber in a computer aided factory. All the "assembler" does
is stand them up and nail them together.
So much for those guys who spent decades developing their skill.
If you can put an Ikea book case together, you can build a house ...
and it ends up being faster and cheaper. These are not "boxes", they
are wall panels so you can build just about anything.



I know this runs against your grain, but "faster and cheaper" typically
isn't "better."

In this case it might be. When each panel is an engineered structure
where cuts and nailing schedules are done by the computer, you will
end up with a stronger building.

It won't take long for unscrupulous "builders" to "specialize" in
assembling these for people and finding ways to cut corners on the
assembly. And they will happily provide their own Electrical, Plumbing
and HVAC contractors to ensure you get a great deal...

I am not sure if it was just for PBS but they said they send a factory
rep to the job to supervise assembly. Who that "rep" is probably
varies but I assume he knows how to read the plan.


Just got gift certificates for Seaforth sport fishing in SD for my B'day.

Why Carpenters are an endangered species
 

Califbill wrote:
wrote:
On Fri, 1 Apr 2016 13:13:47 -0500, "Ryan P."
wrote:

On 4/1/2016 10:23 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 1 Apr 2016 08:29:01 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 4/1/16 1:21 AM, wrote:
This old house (PBS) is doing a show as we speak about Connor Homes.
They prefab wall panels in a factory and pretty much cut all of the
discrete lumber in a computer aided factory. All the "assembler" does
is stand them up and nail them together.
So much for those guys who spent decades developing their skill.
If you can put an Ikea book case together, you can build a house ...
and it ends up being faster and cheaper. These are not "boxes", they
are wall panels so you can build just about anything.



I know this runs against your grain, but "faster and cheaper" typically
isn't "better."

In this case it might be. When each panel is an engineered structure
where cuts and nailing schedules are done by the computer, you will
end up with a stronger building.

It won't take long for unscrupulous "builders" to "specialize" in
assembling these for people and finding ways to cut corners on the
assembly. And they will happily provide their own Electrical, Plumbing
and HVAC contractors to ensure you get a great deal...

I am not sure if it was just for PBS but they said they send a factory
rep to the job to supervise assembly. Who that "rep" is probably
varies but I assume he knows how to read the plan.


Just got gift certificates for Seaforth sport fishing in SD for my B'day.



Should have been the San Diego thread.

Why Carpenters are an endangered species
 

On Friday, April 1, 2016 at 6:38:14 PM UTC-5, Califbill wrote:
Califbill wrote:
wrote:
On Fri, 1 Apr 2016 13:13:47 -0500, "Ryan P."
wrote:

On 4/1/2016 10:23 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 1 Apr 2016 08:29:01 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 4/1/16 1:21 AM, wrote:
This old house (PBS) is doing a show as we speak about Connor Homes.
They prefab wall panels in a factory and pretty much cut all of the
discrete lumber in a computer aided factory. All the "assembler" does
is stand them up and nail them together.
So much for those guys who spent decades developing their skill.
If you can put an Ikea book case together, you can build a house ....
and it ends up being faster and cheaper. These are not "boxes", they
are wall panels so you can build just about anything.



I know this runs against your grain, but "faster and cheaper" typically
isn't "better."

In this case it might be. When each panel is an engineered structure
where cuts and nailing schedules are done by the computer, you will
end up with a stronger building.

It won't take long for unscrupulous "builders" to "specialize" in
assembling these for people and finding ways to cut corners on the
assembly. And they will happily provide their own Electrical, Plumbing
and HVAC contractors to ensure you get a great deal...

I am not sure if it was just for PBS but they said they send a factory
rep to the job to supervise assembly. Who that "rep" is probably
varies but I assume he knows how to read the plan.


Just got gift certificates for Seaforth sport fishing in SD for my B'day.



Should have been the San Diego thread.

That's ok Bill. Most threads get pitched one way or another in here...