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John H.[_5_] February 21st 16 06:05 PM

As it should be played...
 
On Sun, 21 Feb 2016 00:02:51 -0500, wrote:

On Sat, 20 Feb 2016 16:10:10 -0500, John H.
wrote:

...not too loud though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMkC07PmaWA

Most people don't recognize that until you get to the last 45 seconds.
I have it on a CD from the Boston Pops. If you have a good system with
a sub woofer it will rock the house.


The Telarc recording of the cannons will definitely rock the house, if the system can
handle them.
--

Ban liars, tax cheats, idiots, and narcissists...not guns!

John H.[_5_] February 21st 16 06:12 PM

As it should be played...
 
On Sun, 21 Feb 2016 08:23:05 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/21/16 12:02 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 20 Feb 2016 16:10:10 -0500, John H.
wrote:

...not too loud though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMkC07PmaWA

Most people don't recognize that until you get to the last 45 seconds.
I have it on a CD from the Boston Pops. If you have a good system with
a sub woofer it will rock the house.



Wow! Gee whiz. Oh boy. How subtle...how sublime. Pyrotechnics! Cannons!


You're right, they make a great addition to the overture. The Old Guard does a great
job with the cannons when the National Symphony does their thing for the 4th of July.

Of course, only we plebeians could enjoy such a thing. Much too vulgar for a highbred
such as yourself.
--

Ban liars, tax cheats, idiots, and narcissists...not guns!

John H.[_5_] February 21st 16 06:17 PM

As it should be played...
 
On Sun, 21 Feb 2016 11:38:26 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/21/16 11:23 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 21 Feb 2016 08:23:05 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 2/21/16 12:02 AM,
wrote:
On Sat, 20 Feb 2016 16:10:10 -0500, John H.
wrote:

...not too loud though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMkC07PmaWA

Most people don't recognize that until you get to the last 45 seconds.
I have it on a CD from the Boston Pops. If you have a good system with
a sub woofer it will rock the house.



Wow! Gee whiz. Oh boy. How subtle...how sublime. Pyrotechnics! Cannons!


See, another guy who thinks this is only the last 45 seconds. ;-)
The piece runs about 12-15 minutes long depending on who is playing
it.


I'm familiar with the piece. Boomy program music, perfect for "showing
off" that you have a stereo.


How much is 'boomy', Harry. Apparently you've never listened to the whole piece. You
probably think Rossini's William Tell Overture consists only of the Lone Ranger part.
--

Ban liars, tax cheats, idiots, and narcissists...not guns!

John H.[_5_] February 21st 16 06:18 PM

As it should be played...
 
On Sun, 21 Feb 2016 11:37:41 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/21/16 11:21 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 21 Feb 2016 09:26:29 -0500, Justan Olphart
wrote:

On 2/21/2016 8:23 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/21/16 12:02 AM,
wrote:
On Sat, 20 Feb 2016 16:10:10 -0500, John H.
wrote:

...not too loud though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMkC07PmaWA

Most people don't recognize that until you get to the last 45 seconds.
I have it on a CD from the Boston Pops. If you have a good system with
a sub woofer it will rock the house.



Wow! Gee whiz. Oh boy. How subtle...how sublime. Pyrotechnics! Cannons!

We know, patriotism isn't your thing.


Not to be too pedantic but this is Russian patriotism.
Tchaikovsky was celebrating the defeat of Napoleon.


It's an interesting piece the first time you hear it. FlaJim, no doubt,
believes the "1812" part refers to the war between the United States and
England, and that a Russian composer wrote the piece about it as the
20th Century approached.


You've displayed your knowledge in your description.
--

Ban liars, tax cheats, idiots, and narcissists...not guns!

Keyser Söze February 21st 16 06:42 PM

As it should be played...
 
John H. wrote:
On Sun, 21 Feb 2016 11:38:26 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/21/16 11:23 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 21 Feb 2016 08:23:05 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 2/21/16 12:02 AM,
wrote:
On Sat, 20 Feb 2016 16:10:10 -0500, John H.
wrote:

...not too loud though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMkC07PmaWA

Most people don't recognize that until you get to the last 45 seconds.
I have it on a CD from the Boston Pops. If you have a good system with
a sub woofer it will rock the house.



Wow! Gee whiz. Oh boy. How subtle...how sublime. Pyrotechnics! Cannons!

See, another guy who thinks this is only the last 45 seconds. ;-)
The piece runs about 12-15 minutes long depending on who is playing
it.


I'm familiar with the piece. Boomy program music, perfect for "showing
off" that you have a stereo.


How much is 'boomy', Harry. Apparently you've never listened to the whole piece. You
probably think Rossini's William Tell Overture consists only of the Lone Ranger part.
--

Ban liars, tax cheats, idiots, and narcissists...not guns!


I'm not referring to the cannons.

--
Sent from my iPhone 6+

Keyser Söze February 21st 16 06:42 PM

As it should be played...
 
John H. wrote:
On Sun, 21 Feb 2016 08:23:05 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/21/16 12:02 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 20 Feb 2016 16:10:10 -0500, John H.
wrote:

...not too loud though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMkC07PmaWA

Most people don't recognize that until you get to the last 45 seconds.
I have it on a CD from the Boston Pops. If you have a good system with
a sub woofer it will rock the house.



Wow! Gee whiz. Oh boy. How subtle...how sublime. Pyrotechnics! Cannons!


You're right, they make a great addition to the overture. The Old Guard does a great
job with the cannons when the National Symphony does their thing for the 4th of July.

Of course, only we plebeians could enjoy such a thing. Much too vulgar for a highbred
such as yourself.
--

Ban liars, tax cheats, idiots, and narcissists...not guns!


Yawn. The piece is trite.

--
Sent from my iPhone 6+

John H.[_5_] February 21st 16 06:53 PM

As it should be played...
 
On Sun, 21 Feb 2016 13:42:29 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sun, 21 Feb 2016 08:23:05 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/21/16 12:02 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 20 Feb 2016 16:10:10 -0500, John H.
wrote:

...not too loud though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMkC07PmaWA

Most people don't recognize that until you get to the last 45 seconds.
I have it on a CD from the Boston Pops. If you have a good system with
a sub woofer it will rock the house.



Wow! Gee whiz. Oh boy. How subtle...how sublime. Pyrotechnics! Cannons!


You're right, they make a great addition to the overture. The Old Guard does a great
job with the cannons when the National Symphony does their thing for the 4th of July.

Of course, only we plebeians could enjoy such a thing. Much too vulgar for a highbred
such as yourself.
--

Ban liars, tax cheats, idiots, and narcissists...not guns!


Yawn. The piece is trite.



Do you ever just get sick of yourself?

Tell us about your Vietnam 'service'. You pretend an aversion to lying when
discussing Republican candidates, but we know it's pretence. Correct? Or am I not
'entitled'.
--

Ban liars, tax cheats, idiots, and narcissists...not guns!

Keyser Söze February 21st 16 07:16 PM

As it should be played...
 
On 2/21/16 1:53 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 21 Feb 2016 13:42:29 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sun, 21 Feb 2016 08:23:05 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/21/16 12:02 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 20 Feb 2016 16:10:10 -0500, John H.
wrote:

...not too loud though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMkC07PmaWA

Most people don't recognize that until you get to the last 45 seconds.
I have it on a CD from the Boston Pops. If you have a good system with
a sub woofer it will rock the house.



Wow! Gee whiz. Oh boy. How subtle...how sublime. Pyrotechnics! Cannons!

You're right, they make a great addition to the overture. The Old Guard does a great
job with the cannons when the National Symphony does their thing for the 4th of July.

Of course, only we plebeians could enjoy such a thing. Much too vulgar for a highbred
such as yourself.
--

Ban liars, tax cheats, idiots, and narcissists...not guns!


Yawn. The piece is trite.



Do you ever just get sick of yourself?


Johnny, despite my advancing age, my ears still work pretty well, and I
don't need to listen to overblown overtures and schmaltzy pop
orchestrations to enjoy good music, or to show off the capabilities of a
mediocre stereo sound system.

Besides, while culture is learned, taste is subjective. I prefer serious
music that is more subtle. I'm not knocking Tchaikovsky...he was a great
composer and I enjoy many of his works...but the 1812 isn't one of them.

Perhaps you'd like this, played by Josh Bell on the Gibson ex-Huberman
Strad:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbJZeNlrYKg


John H.[_5_] February 21st 16 08:01 PM

As it should be played...
 
On Sun, 21 Feb 2016 14:16:25 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/21/16 1:53 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 21 Feb 2016 13:42:29 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sun, 21 Feb 2016 08:23:05 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/21/16 12:02 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 20 Feb 2016 16:10:10 -0500, John H.
wrote:

...not too loud though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMkC07PmaWA

Most people don't recognize that until you get to the last 45 seconds.
I have it on a CD from the Boston Pops. If you have a good system with
a sub woofer it will rock the house.



Wow! Gee whiz. Oh boy. How subtle...how sublime. Pyrotechnics! Cannons!

You're right, they make a great addition to the overture. The Old Guard does a great
job with the cannons when the National Symphony does their thing for the 4th of July.

Of course, only we plebeians could enjoy such a thing. Much too vulgar for a highbred
such as yourself.
--

Ban liars, tax cheats, idiots, and narcissists...not guns!


Yawn. The piece is trite.



Do you ever just get sick of yourself?


Johnny, despite my advancing age, my ears still work pretty well, and I
don't need to listen to overblown overtures and schmaltzy pop
orchestrations to enjoy good music, or to show off the capabilities of a
mediocre stereo sound system.

What a joke you are, Krause. Is there an implication there that you must have great
ears to enjoy a certain type of music? Do you not have a volume knob on your
equipment?


Besides, while culture is learned, taste is subjective. I prefer serious
music that is more subtle. I'm not knocking Tchaikovsky...he was a great
composer and I enjoy many of his works...but the 1812 isn't one of them.

Perhaps you'd like this, played by Josh Bell on the Gibson ex-Huberman
Strad:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbJZeNlrYKg


Beautiful! Probably the only link you've ever posted that's worthwhile.
--

Ban liars, tax cheats, idiots, and narcissists...not guns!

[email protected] February 21st 16 08:47 PM

As it should be played...
 
On Sun, 21 Feb 2016 15:01:00 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Sun, 21 Feb 2016 14:16:25 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/21/16 1:53 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 21 Feb 2016 13:42:29 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sun, 21 Feb 2016 08:23:05 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/21/16 12:02 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 20 Feb 2016 16:10:10 -0500, John H.
wrote:

...not too loud though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMkC07PmaWA

Most people don't recognize that until you get to the last 45 seconds.
I have it on a CD from the Boston Pops. If you have a good system with
a sub woofer it will rock the house.



Wow! Gee whiz. Oh boy. How subtle...how sublime. Pyrotechnics! Cannons!

You're right, they make a great addition to the overture. The Old Guard does a great
job with the cannons when the National Symphony does their thing for the 4th of July.

Of course, only we plebeians could enjoy such a thing. Much too vulgar for a highbred
such as yourself.
--

Ban liars, tax cheats, idiots, and narcissists...not guns!


Yawn. The piece is trite.


Do you ever just get sick of yourself?


Johnny, despite my advancing age, my ears still work pretty well, and I
don't need to listen to overblown overtures and schmaltzy pop
orchestrations to enjoy good music, or to show off the capabilities of a
mediocre stereo sound system.

What a joke you are, Krause. Is there an implication there that you must have great
ears to enjoy a certain type of music? Do you not have a volume knob on your
equipment?


Besides, while culture is learned, taste is subjective. I prefer serious
music that is more subtle. I'm not knocking Tchaikovsky...he was a great
composer and I enjoy many of his works...but the 1812 isn't one of them.

Perhaps you'd like this, played by Josh Bell on the Gibson ex-Huberman
Strad:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbJZeNlrYKg


Beautiful! Probably the only link you've ever posted that's worthwhile.


===

It's a great work of music and technically one of the most difficult
violin pieces ever written. Interestingly enough it was not well
received initially.

----
The first performance was eventually given by Adolph Brodsky on
December 4, 1881 in Vienna, under the baton of Hans Richter.
Tchaikovsky changed the dedication to Brodsky. Critical reaction was
mixed. The influential critic Eduard Hanslick called it "long and
pretentious" and said that it "brought us face to face with the
revolting thought that music can exist which stinks to the ear".
Hanslick also wrote that "the violin was not played but beaten black
and blue", as well as labeling the last movement "odorously Russian".
----

----
The Violin Concerto in D was written in 1878 during the period
immediately after Tchaikovsky had fled from his disastrous marriage.
To escape, he traveled to France, Italy, and Switzerland, where he met
his old friend, the violinist Joseph Kotek. Together, they played
Lalo’s Symphony Espagnole, and the experience apparently moved
Tchaikovsky to immediately begin work on a concerto. The sketches were
completed in only eleven days, while the scoring took only two weeks.
Although Kotek advised him on the solo part, the work was dedicated to
the famous Leopold Auer. (Kotek was later recompensed by another
dedication.) When it came to performing the piece, however, both Kotek
and Auer refused Tchaikovsky’s requeste to perform the premiere,
claiming that the piece was impossible to play owing to the many
double stops, glissandi, trills, leaps, and dissonances. A first
performance was delayed until December 4, 1881, when Adolf Brodsky
performed it with the Vienna Philharmonic. Though some in the audience
hailed the work, the famous critic Eduard Hanslick believed that the
work actually gave out a “bad smell.”
----


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