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Boating All Out February 5th 16 02:32 PM

I Don't Know What to Think Now
 

Condie Rice and Colin Powell.
This email thing, you know.
Is the FBI looking into them?
Hope they don't get indicted.
Semm like good people. I guess.

Mr. Luddite February 5th 16 03:26 PM

I Don't Know What to Think Now
 
On 2/5/2016 9:32 AM, Boating All Out wrote:

Condie Rice and Colin Powell.
This email thing, you know.
Is the FBI looking into them?
Hope they don't get indicted.
Semm like good people. I guess.


The whole purpose of having the FBI review the emails
is to determine if any information contained in them, if compromised,
could be detrimental to the security of the USA or beneficial to our
adversaries. Recommendation for prosecution of someone who was
responsible for those documents is secondary and is only appropriate
when that person has demonstrated negligence or intent
in the lack of safe keeping of those documents.

A few weeks ago Ashton Carter, the current Secretary of Defense,
acknowledged that he also had a few government emails sent or received
via his personal email address shortly after he was appointed in 2015.
As soon as he realized it, he corrected the problem, went public and
announced his error and took full responsibility for it. Nobody is
"after" him.

Hillary's problem is her initial refusal to cooperate, denial of
requests to hand over her server, claims that no "classified" info
had been stored on the server, then changing that story to "no emails
were marked classified at the time" were on her server. That's where
it crosses the line. As SOS, she is responsible for the security of
classified info. That's the law. Furthermore, contrary to the movies,
no documents are marked "classified". They are marked "Confidential,
Secret, Top Secret" often with other restrictions like "NOFORN" (meaning
no foreigners).

If she had simply admitted her mistake and fully cooperated with the FBI
and State Department to further and protect the best interests of the
USA rather than take the arrogant attitude and direction she took, none
of this email stuff would be making news.

John H.[_5_] February 5th 16 04:10 PM

I Don't Know What to Think Now
 
On Fri, 5 Feb 2016 08:32:54 -0600, Boating All Out wrote:


Condie Rice and Colin Powell.
This email thing, you know.
Is the FBI looking into them?
Hope they don't get indicted.
Semm like good people. I guess.


If they broke the law, they should be indicted. Ditto with the slimeball, Hillary.

Stick with ISIS...you know so much about them. The 'thugs' are doing a job in Libya
now, eh.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

[email protected] February 5th 16 04:24 PM

I Don't Know What to Think Now
 
On Fri, 5 Feb 2016 08:32:54 -0600, Boating All Out
wrote:

Condie Rice and Colin Powell.
This email thing, you know.


Guess they can't be president either.

Justan Olphart[_2_] February 5th 16 08:35 PM

I Don't Know What to Think Now
 
On 2/5/2016 10:26 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/5/2016 9:32 AM, Boating All Out wrote:

Condie Rice and Colin Powell.
This email thing, you know.
Is the FBI looking into them?
Hope they don't get indicted.
Semm like good people. I guess.


The whole purpose of having the FBI review the emails
is to determine if any information contained in them, if compromised,
could be detrimental to the security of the USA or beneficial to our
adversaries. Recommendation for prosecution of someone who was
responsible for those documents is secondary and is only appropriate
when that person has demonstrated negligence or intent
in the lack of safe keeping of those documents.

A few weeks ago Ashton Carter, the current Secretary of Defense,
acknowledged that he also had a few government emails sent or received
via his personal email address shortly after he was appointed in 2015.
As soon as he realized it, he corrected the problem, went public and
announced his error and took full responsibility for it. Nobody is
"after" him.

Hillary's problem is her initial refusal to cooperate, denial of
requests to hand over her server, claims that no "classified" info
had been stored on the server, then changing that story to "no emails
were marked classified at the time" were on her server. That's where
it crosses the line. As SOS, she is responsible for the security of
classified info. That's the law. Furthermore, contrary to the movies,
no documents are marked "classified". They are marked "Confidential,
Secret, Top Secret" often with other restrictions like "NOFORN" (meaning
no foreigners).

If she had simply admitted her mistake and fully cooperated with the FBI
and State Department to further and protect the best interests of the
USA rather than take the arrogant attitude and direction she took, none
of this email stuff would be making news.


Hilly is treating emailgate just as billy did with blue dressgate.
They're two peas in a pod.

Its Me February 5th 16 11:02 PM

I Don't Know What to Think Now
 
On Friday, February 5, 2016 at 11:24:15 AM UTC-5, wrote:
On Fri, 5 Feb 2016 08:32:54 -0600, Boating All Out
wrote:

Condie Rice and Colin Powell.
This email thing, you know.


Guess they can't be president either.


Little bit of a different situation.

"Additionally, Powell said he never kept the emails in his possession when he left the State Department. Unlike Clinton, Powell's emails remained in government computer servers.

An aide to Rice, who now teaches at Stanford University, said that Rice herself never used email -- not even a personal email account -- during her tenure.

Clinton, who is now running for president, has weathered a year of political fire for setting up a personal email server at her home in Chappaqua, New York to conduct business as secretary of state. That allowed her to place her official state communication outside government purview and under her complete control."

Plus, neither Rice or Powell lied about it, unlike Hilly.

John H.[_5_] February 5th 16 11:05 PM

I Don't Know What to Think Now
 
On Fri, 5 Feb 2016 15:02:14 -0800 (PST), Its Me wrote:

On Friday, February 5, 2016 at 11:24:15 AM UTC-5, wrote:
On Fri, 5 Feb 2016 08:32:54 -0600, Boating All Out
wrote:

Condie Rice and Colin Powell.
This email thing, you know.


Guess they can't be president either.


Little bit of a different situation.

"Additionally, Powell said he never kept the emails in his possession when he left the State Department. Unlike Clinton, Powell's emails remained in government computer servers.

An aide to Rice, who now teaches at Stanford University, said that Rice herself never used email -- not even a personal email account -- during her tenure.

Clinton, who is now running for president, has weathered a year of political fire for setting up a personal email server at her home in Chappaqua, New York to conduct business as secretary of state. That allowed her to place her official state communication outside government purview and under her complete control."

Plus, neither Rice or Powell lied about it, unlike Hilly.


Mr. BAO needs to stick to his area of expertise...ISIS thuggery.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

Boating All Out February 6th 16 01:52 AM

I Don't Know What to Think Now
 
In article -
september.org, says...

Condie Rice and Colin Powell.
This email thing, you know.
Is the FBI looking into them?
Hope they don't get indicted.
Semm like good people. I guess.


Luddite wrote:
"If she had simply admitted her mistake and fully cooperated
with the FBI and State Department to further and protect the
best interests of the USA rather than take the arrogant
attitude and direction she took, none of this email stuff would
be making news."


LMAO
You might recall I said early on she would just tell them to
pound sand.
Instead she fully cooperated. Handed over everything.
Well, you would say everything except her love letters to
Vladimir Putin and Kim Jong-un.
She could have avoided the mess if she had just used gov email
for gov business. That was her only mistake, and I agree it
was arrogant to use a private server.
Multi-millionaires are often arrogant in that way.
I hope she learned her lesson.

Mr. Luddite February 6th 16 02:16 AM

I Don't Know What to Think Now
 
On 2/5/2016 8:52 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article -
september.org, says...

Condie Rice and Colin Powell.
This email thing, you know.
Is the FBI looking into them?
Hope they don't get indicted.
Semm like good people. I guess.


Luddite wrote:
"If she had simply admitted her mistake and fully cooperated
with the FBI and State Department to further and protect the
best interests of the USA rather than take the arrogant
attitude and direction she took, none of this email stuff would
be making news."


LMAO
You might recall I said early on she would just tell them to
pound sand.
Instead she fully cooperated. Handed over everything.
Well, you would say everything except her love letters to
Vladimir Putin and Kim Jong-un.
She could have avoided the mess if she had just used gov email
for gov business. That was her only mistake, and I agree it
was arrogant to use a private server.
Multi-millionaires are often arrogant in that way.
I hope she learned her lesson.


Your problem is you ignore what really happened and just make **** up.

"That was her only mistake ..." LOL !

Sure, she fully cooperated ... after initially refusing and then, when
she realized she wouldn't get away with that tactic, had her staff
selectively decide what would be released and what wouldn't. Once she
was satisfied with that she had the IT people who supposedly maintained
the server "wipe" the hard drive. Problem is they are amateurs and the
FBI has been able to recover many or most of them.

It's nice of you to excuse her arrogance but she broke the law.
She also put her interests before the interests of the country
that she now wants to be POTUS of. Think about it.





Boating All Out February 6th 16 02:53 AM

I Don't Know What to Think Now
 
In article ,
says...

On 2/5/2016 8:52 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article -
september.org,
says...

Condie Rice and Colin Powell.
This email thing, you know.
Is the FBI looking into them?
Hope they don't get indicted.
Semm like good people. I guess.


Luddite wrote:
"If she had simply admitted her mistake and fully cooperated
with the FBI and State Department to further and protect the
best interests of the USA rather than take the arrogant
attitude and direction she took, none of this email stuff would
be making news."


LMAO
You might recall I said early on she would just tell them to
pound sand.
Instead she fully cooperated. Handed over everything.
Well, you would say everything except her love letters to
Vladimir Putin and Kim Jong-un.
She could have avoided the mess if she had just used gov email
for gov business. That was her only mistake, and I agree it
was arrogant to use a private server.
Multi-millionaires are often arrogant in that way.
I hope she learned her lesson.


Your problem is you ignore what really happened and just make **** up.

"That was her only mistake ..." LOL !

Sure, she fully cooperated ... after initially refusing and then, when
she realized she wouldn't get away with that tactic, had her staff
selectively decide what would be released and what wouldn't. Once she
was satisfied with that she had the IT people who supposedly maintained
the server "wipe" the hard drive. Problem is they are amateurs and the
FBI has been able to recover many or most of them.


You're just making **** up. There's no evidence the drive was
wiped. They FBI has everything but the hot emails to Vladie
and Kimmie. I'll let the FBI have the final word.

It's nice of you to excuse her arrogance but she broke the law.
She also put her interests before the interests of the country
that she now wants to be POTUS of. Think about it.


I have. We've reached different conclusions. If she broke a
law, she should be charged. So far she hasn't, and she won't.
As far as I can she's only guilty of being rich, successful,
and arrogant. That's no crime.



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