Before everyone freaks out ....
 

On Tue, 2 Feb 2016 15:42:42 -0800 (PST), True North wrote:

StinkyJim farts...

"I remember a guy who, when showed a picture of his hovel, adamantly
denied living there. Imagine that."


Why would you channel the two worst losers to ever grace this newsgroup. That would be Scott Secord Dickson and his MiniMe from Connecticut. Do you miss them that much?

Don, most of us see nothing of slammer until you answer his posts. If I had to choose
a person to go boating with, you'd better believe it would be Scott over youi any day
of the week. At least he didn't act like a 12-year-old.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

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On Tue, 2 Feb 2016 17:02:42 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 2/2/2016 4:21 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 2 Feb 2016 15:30:17 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/2/16 3:28 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 2 Feb 2016 12:01:05 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:

Y'all seem to want to bend over backwards to protect hate speech.
No wonder ' merica is so screwed up and getting worse. Sure hope it doesn't spill over the border when y'all implode.

Freedom of speech is EXACTLY protecting the speech you hate.

As soon as you let the government decide which speech is worthy of
protection and which is not, you are on your way to a dictatorship.

Bull****.

I bet you were not saying that when guys like me were still defending
the rights of the protestors in the 60s, right up until they started
blowing stuff up.
I disagreed with what they said but I understood they still had the
right to say it.

It seems that the left is actually the least tolerant of anyone else's
views. You only have to look at a college campus now to see that.


In our lifetime we have witnessed a transformation of the USA from a
creative, resourceful nation populated with people who demonstrated self
initiative, responsibility and accountability. Those classic values
have been replaced with a dependence on "government" to provide for and
take care of all. That mentality also comes through
loud and clear among the young college students. They don't know any
better because they don't know anything else. It's only us old farts
that remember what it was like 40-50 years ago. Sad.


Funny. Talking to a friend yesterday about Bernie and how the college kids love him.
Said the same thing you just did. They've lived their whole life under a purely
socialist system...everything provided for them. They have to believe it's a great
way to go.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

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On Tue, 2 Feb 2016 18:09:24 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote:

On 2/2/2016 5:02 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/2/2016 4:21 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 2 Feb 2016 15:30:17 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/2/16 3:28 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 2 Feb 2016 12:01:05 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:

Y'all seem to want to bend over backwards to protect hate speech.
No wonder ' merica is so screwed up and getting worse. Sure hope it
doesn't spill over the border when y'all implode.

Freedom of speech is EXACTLY protecting the speech you hate.

As soon as you let the government decide which speech is worthy of
protection and which is not, you are on your way to a dictatorship.

Bull****.

I bet you were not saying that when guys like me were still defending
the rights of the protestors in the 60s, right up until they started
blowing stuff up.
I disagreed with what they said but I understood they still had the
right to say it.

It seems that the left is actually the least tolerant of anyone else's
views. You only have to look at a college campus now to see that.


In our lifetime we have witnessed a transformation of the USA from a
creative, resourceful nation populated with people who demonstrated self
initiative, responsibility and accountability. Those classic values
have been replaced with a dependence on "government" to provide for and
take care of all. That mentality also comes through
loud and clear among the young college students. They don't know any
better because they don't know anything else. It's only us old farts
that remember what it was like 40-50 years ago. Sad.



My next door neighbor's son graduated college last year. He's been
laying about her house and he isn't looking for work and doesn't
volunteer to do any chores around the house. She doesn't know what to do
with him. So she's enrolling him back in school. That'll make him so
smart he'll be over qualified for any job he's capable of doing. What a
life!

When my daughter graduated high school she went to George Mason University. At the
end of her first year she was on probation because she played around too much. Told
her I wasn't going to foot the bill for that anymore, and that she could go to a
community college and get her grades up. She wanted to just hang around the house -
no job and no college, much like the kid you mentioned.

I told her she could stay, but it would cost her $250 a month for food and lodging if
she wasn't going to school. She moved out, and moved in with a bunch of other girls
in a townhouse. That lasted a bit over three months. She then decided to go to
community college, got her grades up to a 3.0 average, got accepted to George Mason's
nursing program and became a nurse.

Sometimes a bit of 'tough love' is called for.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

Before everyone freaks out ....
 

On Tue, 2 Feb 2016 16:52:37 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/2/16 4:45 PM, Califbill wrote:
True North wrote:
Y'all seem to want to bend over backwards to protect hate speech.
No wonder ' merica is so screwed up and getting worse. Sure hope it
doesn't spill over the border when y'all implode.


What is hate speech? To Harry, it is anything against Democrats. To a
LGBT it is anything not supporting their stance. Be very careful about
banning any speech. China will kill you for anti government speech. What
does Canada ban?


And once again you prove you don't know what you are talking about.

You've shown your knowledge of the subject with your answer.

What *does* Canada ban?

Do you not consider your continuous attacks on Christians 'hate speech'?

In this country, it's illegal to make true threats and incite imminent crimes
against anyone and for any reason. I'd expect the same is true in Canada.

Calling you an asshole, in Canada, is probably not 'hate speech'. When you talk of
hate speech here, to what are you referring? Does anyone here call worse names than
you do?

I'm sure I'm not 'entitled' to a response...which is the cowards way out of
responding, eh Krause?
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

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On 2/3/2016 9:26 AM, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 2 Feb 2016 20:27:19 -0500, Alex wrote:

Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/2/16 4:17 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 2 Feb 2016 15:23:08 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/2/16 3:01 PM, True North wrote:
Y'all seem to want to bend over backwards to protect hate speech.
No wonder ' merica is so screwed up and getting worse. Sure hope it
doesn't spill over the border when y'all implode.


Most of the righties here protect their hate speech by posting
"anonymously." Just ask FlaJim, Alex, and the rest of the right-wing
assholes.

Says a guy who posts under the pseudonym of a homicidal maniac.


When I first started posting here and for years afterward, I posted
with my real name and email addy. I've made no effort to conceal my
actual identity here, unlike the assholes I mentioned. They're cowards.


You were outed and it ****ed you off.

Amen.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


Our push back seems to have an effect on him. Unfortunately it isn't
enough for him to mend his ways. I guess we keep at it.

Before everyone freaks out ....
 

Justan Olphart wrote:
On 2/3/2016 9:26 AM, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 2 Feb 2016 20:27:19 -0500, Alex wrote:

Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/2/16 4:17 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 2 Feb 2016 15:23:08 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/2/16 3:01 PM, True North wrote:
Y'all seem to want to bend over backwards to protect hate speech.
No wonder ' merica is so screwed up and getting worse. Sure hope it
doesn't spill over the border when y'all implode.


Most of the righties here protect their hate speech by posting
"anonymously." Just ask FlaJim, Alex, and the rest of the right-wing
assholes.

Says a guy who posts under the pseudonym of a homicidal maniac.


When I first started posting here and for years afterward, I posted
with my real name and email addy. I've made no effort to conceal my
actual identity here, unlike the assholes I mentioned. They're cowards.


You were outed and it ****ed you off.

Amen.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


Our push back seems to have an effect on him. Unfortunately it isn't
enough for him to mend his ways. I guess we keep at it.


As if I cared about what passes for thought among you right-wing
****ants...

--
Sent from my iPhone 6+

Before everyone freaks out ....
 

On Wed, 03 Feb 2016 09:48:46 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Tue, 2 Feb 2016 18:09:24 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote:

On 2/2/2016 5:02 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/2/2016 4:21 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 2 Feb 2016 15:30:17 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/2/16 3:28 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 2 Feb 2016 12:01:05 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:

Y'all seem to want to bend over backwards to protect hate speech.
No wonder ' merica is so screwed up and getting worse. Sure hope it
doesn't spill over the border when y'all implode.

Freedom of speech is EXACTLY protecting the speech you hate.

As soon as you let the government decide which speech is worthy of
protection and which is not, you are on your way to a dictatorship.

Bull****.

I bet you were not saying that when guys like me were still defending
the rights of the protestors in the 60s, right up until they started
blowing stuff up.
I disagreed with what they said but I understood they still had the
right to say it.

It seems that the left is actually the least tolerant of anyone else's
views. You only have to look at a college campus now to see that.


In our lifetime we have witnessed a transformation of the USA from a
creative, resourceful nation populated with people who demonstrated self
initiative, responsibility and accountability. Those classic values
have been replaced with a dependence on "government" to provide for and
take care of all. That mentality also comes through
loud and clear among the young college students. They don't know any
better because they don't know anything else. It's only us old farts
that remember what it was like 40-50 years ago. Sad.



My next door neighbor's son graduated college last year. He's been
laying about her house and he isn't looking for work and doesn't
volunteer to do any chores around the house. She doesn't know what to do
with him. So she's enrolling him back in school. That'll make him so
smart he'll be over qualified for any job he's capable of doing. What a
life!

When my daughter graduated high school she went to George Mason University. At the
end of her first year she was on probation because she played around too much. Told
her I wasn't going to foot the bill for that anymore, and that she could go to a
community college and get her grades up. She wanted to just hang around the house -
no job and no college, much like the kid you mentioned.

I told her she could stay, but it would cost her $250 a month for food and lodging if
she wasn't going to school. She moved out, and moved in with a bunch of other girls
in a townhouse. That lasted a bit over three months. She then decided to go to
community college, got her grades up to a 3.0 average, got accepted to George Mason's
nursing program and became a nurse.

Sometimes a bit of 'tough love' is called for.

My parents went the other way. I got my job at IBM pretty much the day
I got off active duty in the CG (still living at home) and they just
came in one day shortly after that and said "see ya, we are moving to
Florida" and handed me the lease.

Before everyone freaks out ....
 

On 2/3/2016 11:48 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
Justan Olphart wrote:
On 2/3/2016 9:26 AM, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 2 Feb 2016 20:27:19 -0500, Alex wrote:

Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/2/16 4:17 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 2 Feb 2016 15:23:08 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/2/16 3:01 PM, True North wrote:
Y'all seem to want to bend over backwards to protect hate speech.
No wonder ' merica is so screwed up and getting worse. Sure hope it
doesn't spill over the border when y'all implode.


Most of the righties here protect their hate speech by posting
"anonymously." Just ask FlaJim, Alex, and the rest of the right-wing
assholes.

Says a guy who posts under the pseudonym of a homicidal maniac.


When I first started posting here and for years afterward, I posted
with my real name and email addy. I've made no effort to conceal my
actual identity here, unlike the assholes I mentioned. They're cowards.


You were outed and it ****ed you off.

Amen.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


Our push back seems to have an effect on him. Unfortunately it isn't
enough for him to mend his ways. I guess we keep at it.


As if I cared about what passes for thought among you right-wing
****ants...

Musta slipped by your filters, eh?

Before everyone freaks out ....
 

Feb 2Keyser Söze
On 2/2/16 3:01 PM, True North wrote:
Y'all seem to want to bend over backwards to protect hate speech.
No wonder ' merica is so screwed up and getting worse. Sure hope it doesn't spill over the border when y'all implode.


Most of the righties here protect their hate speech by posting
"anonymously." Just ask FlaJim, Alex, and the rest of the right-wing
assholes.
------
"Hate" speech? What actually is "hate" speech as defined by whom?

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On Wed, 03 Feb 2016 11:50:33 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 03 Feb 2016 09:48:46 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Tue, 2 Feb 2016 18:09:24 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote:

On 2/2/2016 5:02 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/2/2016 4:21 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 2 Feb 2016 15:30:17 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/2/16 3:28 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 2 Feb 2016 12:01:05 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:

Y'all seem to want to bend over backwards to protect hate speech.
No wonder ' merica is so screwed up and getting worse. Sure hope it
doesn't spill over the border when y'all implode.

Freedom of speech is EXACTLY protecting the speech you hate.

As soon as you let the government decide which speech is worthy of
protection and which is not, you are on your way to a dictatorship.

Bull****.

I bet you were not saying that when guys like me were still defending
the rights of the protestors in the 60s, right up until they started
blowing stuff up.
I disagreed with what they said but I understood they still had the
right to say it.

It seems that the left is actually the least tolerant of anyone else's
views. You only have to look at a college campus now to see that.


In our lifetime we have witnessed a transformation of the USA from a
creative, resourceful nation populated with people who demonstrated self
initiative, responsibility and accountability. Those classic values
have been replaced with a dependence on "government" to provide for and
take care of all. That mentality also comes through
loud and clear among the young college students. They don't know any
better because they don't know anything else. It's only us old farts
that remember what it was like 40-50 years ago. Sad.



My next door neighbor's son graduated college last year. He's been
laying about her house and he isn't looking for work and doesn't
volunteer to do any chores around the house. She doesn't know what to do
with him. So she's enrolling him back in school. That'll make him so
smart he'll be over qualified for any job he's capable of doing. What a
life!

When my daughter graduated high school she went to George Mason University. At the
end of her first year she was on probation because she played around too much. Told
her I wasn't going to foot the bill for that anymore, and that she could go to a
community college and get her grades up. She wanted to just hang around the house -
no job and no college, much like the kid you mentioned.

I told her she could stay, but it would cost her $250 a month for food and lodging if
she wasn't going to school. She moved out, and moved in with a bunch of other girls
in a townhouse. That lasted a bit over three months. She then decided to go to
community college, got her grades up to a 3.0 average, got accepted to George Mason's
nursing program and became a nurse.

Sometimes a bit of 'tough love' is called for.

My parents went the other way. I got my job at IBM pretty much the day
I got off active duty in the CG (still living at home) and they just
came in one day shortly after that and said "see ya, we are moving to
Florida" and handed me the lease.

You had a job!
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

Before everyone freaks out ....
 

On Wed, 3 Feb 2016 11:48:14 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

Justan Olphart wrote:
On 2/3/2016 9:26 AM, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 2 Feb 2016 20:27:19 -0500, Alex wrote:

Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/2/16 4:17 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 2 Feb 2016 15:23:08 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/2/16 3:01 PM, True North wrote:
Y'all seem to want to bend over backwards to protect hate speech.
No wonder ' merica is so screwed up and getting worse. Sure hope it
doesn't spill over the border when y'all implode.


Most of the righties here protect their hate speech by posting
"anonymously." Just ask FlaJim, Alex, and the rest of the right-wing
assholes.

Says a guy who posts under the pseudonym of a homicidal maniac.


When I first started posting here and for years afterward, I posted
with my real name and email addy. I've made no effort to conceal my
actual identity here, unlike the assholes I mentioned. They're cowards.


You were outed and it ****ed you off.

Amen.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


Our push back seems to have an effect on him. Unfortunately it isn't
enough for him to mend his ways. I guess we keep at it.


As if I cared about what passes for thought among you right-wing
****ants...

You obviously do.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

Before everyone freaks out ....
 

John H.
- show quoted text -
"Don, most of us see nothing of slammer until you answer his posts. If I had to choose
a person to go boating with, you'd better believe it would be Scott over youi any day
of the week. At least he didn't act like a 12-year-old."


WOW! That says a lot about you, JohnnyMop.

Before everyone freaks out ....
 

True North wrote:
John H.
- show quoted text -
"Don, most of us see nothing of slammer until you answer his posts. If I had to choose
a person to go boating with, you'd better believe it would be Scott over youi any day
of the week. At least he didn't act like a 12-year-old."


WOW! That says a lot about you, JohnnyMop.


Actually says a lot more about your personality, and lack of brains.

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On Wed, 3 Feb 2016 12:17:20 -0800 (PST), True North wrote:

John H.
- show quoted text -
"Don, most of us see nothing of slammer until you answer his posts. If I had to choose
a person to go boating with, you'd better believe it would be Scott over youi any day
of the week. At least he didn't act like a 12-year-old."


WOW! That says a lot about you, JohnnyMop.

Thank you. You'd best believe it.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

Before everyone freaks out ....
 

John H. wrote:
On Wed, 3 Feb 2016 12:17:20 -0800 (PST), True North wrote:

John H.
- show quoted text -
"Don, most of us see nothing of slammer until you answer his posts. If I had to choose
a person to go boating with, you'd better believe it would be Scott over youi any day
of the week. At least he didn't act like a 12-year-old."


WOW! That says a lot about you, JohnnyMop.

Thank you. You'd best believe it.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


You're a fan of slammer? Figures.

--
Sent from my iPhone 6+

Before everyone freaks out ....
 

On Wed, 3 Feb 2016 15:38:29 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Wed, 3 Feb 2016 12:17:20 -0800 (PST), True North wrote:

John H.
- show quoted text -
"Don, most of us see nothing of slammer until you answer his posts. If I had to choose
a person to go boating with, you'd better believe it would be Scott over youi any day
of the week. At least he didn't act like a 12-year-old."


WOW! That says a lot about you, JohnnyMop.

Thank you. You'd best believe it.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


You're a fan of slammer? Figures.

Learn to read.

Tell us about your Vietnam experiences, or are you suffering from a dose of
cowardice?
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

Before everyone freaks out ....
 

On 2/3/16 3:42 PM, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 3 Feb 2016 15:38:29 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Wed, 3 Feb 2016 12:17:20 -0800 (PST), True North wrote:

John H.
- show quoted text -
"Don, most of us see nothing of slammer until you answer his posts. If I had to choose
a person to go boating with, you'd better believe it would be Scott over youi any day
of the week. At least he didn't act like a 12-year-old."


WOW! That says a lot about you, JohnnyMop.

Thank you. You'd best believe it.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


You're a fan of slammer? Figures.

Learn to read.

Tell us about your Vietnam experiences, or are you suffering from a dose of
cowardice?
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


So, you are a fan of slammer. Figures.

Before everyone freaks out ....
 

On 2/3/16 3:17 PM, True North wrote:
John H.
- show quoted text -
"Don, most of us see nothing of slammer until you answer his posts. If I had to choose
a person to go boating with, you'd better believe it would be Scott over youi any day
of the week. At least he didn't act like a 12-year-old."


WOW! That says a lot about you, JohnnyMop.


Speaking of the Scotts, whatever happened to Connecticut Scotty? Did he
run amuck of his "full patch motorcycle gang buddies"?

Before everyone freaks out ....
 

On Wed, 3 Feb 2016 16:46:41 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/3/16 3:42 PM, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 3 Feb 2016 15:38:29 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Wed, 3 Feb 2016 12:17:20 -0800 (PST), True North wrote:

John H.
- show quoted text -
"Don, most of us see nothing of slammer until you answer his posts. If I had to choose
a person to go boating with, you'd better believe it would be Scott over youi any day
of the week. At least he didn't act like a 12-year-old."


WOW! That says a lot about you, JohnnyMop.

Thank you. You'd best believe it.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


You're a fan of slammer? Figures.

Learn to read.

Tell us about your Vietnam experiences, or are you suffering from a dose of
cowardice?
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


So, you are a fan of slammer. Figures.

Cowardice got your tongue?
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

Before everyone freaks out ....
 

On Wed, 3 Feb 2016 16:50:57 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/3/16 3:17 PM, True North wrote:
John H.
- show quoted text -
"Don, most of us see nothing of slammer until you answer his posts. If I had to choose
a person to go boating with, you'd better believe it would be Scott over youi any day
of the week. At least he didn't act like a 12-year-old."


WOW! That says a lot about you, JohnnyMop.


Speaking of the Scotts, whatever happened to Connecticut Scotty? Did he
run amuck of his "full patch motorcycle gang buddies"?

He became quite sick of Krausesheize.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

Before everyone freaks out ....
 

Keyser Söze
- show quoted text -
"So, you are a fan of slammer. Figures."


Always thought that Dickson was The John's favorite turd.

Before everyone freaks out ....
 

John H. wrote:
On Tue, 2 Feb 2016 18:09:24 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote:

On 2/2/2016 5:02 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/2/2016 4:21 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 2 Feb 2016 15:30:17 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/2/16 3:28 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 2 Feb 2016 12:01:05 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:

Y'all seem to want to bend over backwards to protect hate speech.
No wonder ' merica is so screwed up and getting worse. Sure hope it
doesn't spill over the border when y'all implode.
Freedom of speech is EXACTLY protecting the speech you hate.

As soon as you let the government decide which speech is worthy of
protection and which is not, you are on your way to a dictatorship.

Bull****.
I bet you were not saying that when guys like me were still defending
the rights of the protestors in the 60s, right up until they started
blowing stuff up.
I disagreed with what they said but I understood they still had the
right to say it.

It seems that the left is actually the least tolerant of anyone else's
views. You only have to look at a college campus now to see that.

In our lifetime we have witnessed a transformation of the USA from a
creative, resourceful nation populated with people who demonstrated self
initiative, responsibility and accountability. Those classic values
have been replaced with a dependence on "government" to provide for and
take care of all. That mentality also comes through
loud and clear among the young college students. They don't know any
better because they don't know anything else. It's only us old farts
that remember what it was like 40-50 years ago. Sad.



My next door neighbor's son graduated college last year. He's been
laying about her house and he isn't looking for work and doesn't
volunteer to do any chores around the house. She doesn't know what to do
with him. So she's enrolling him back in school. That'll make him so
smart he'll be over qualified for any job he's capable of doing. What a
life!
When my daughter graduated high school she went to George Mason University. At the
end of her first year she was on probation because she played around too much. Told
her I wasn't going to foot the bill for that anymore, and that she could go to a
community college and get her grades up. She wanted to just hang around the house -
no job and no college, much like the kid you mentioned.

I told her she could stay, but it would cost her $250 a month for food and lodging if
she wasn't going to school. She moved out, and moved in with a bunch of other girls
in a townhouse. That lasted a bit over three months. She then decided to go to
community college, got her grades up to a 3.0 average, got accepted to George Mason's
nursing program and became a nurse.

Sometimes a bit of 'tough love' is called for.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


Perfect example on why it DOESN'T "Take a Village..."

Before everyone freaks out ....
 

Justan Olphart wrote:
On 2/3/2016 11:48 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
Justan Olphart wrote:
On 2/3/2016 9:26 AM, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 2 Feb 2016 20:27:19 -0500, Alex wrote:

Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/2/16 4:17 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 2 Feb 2016 15:23:08 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 2/2/16 3:01 PM, True North wrote:
Y'all seem to want to bend over backwards to protect hate speech.
No wonder ' merica is so screwed up and getting worse. Sure
hope it
doesn't spill over the border when y'all implode.


Most of the righties here protect their hate speech by posting
"anonymously." Just ask FlaJim, Alex, and the rest of the
right-wing
assholes.

Says a guy who posts under the pseudonym of a homicidal maniac.


When I first started posting here and for years afterward, I posted
with my real name and email addy. I've made no effort to conceal my
actual identity here, unlike the assholes I mentioned. They're
cowards.


You were outed and it ****ed you off.

Amen.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


Our push back seems to have an effect on him. Unfortunately it isn't
enough for him to mend his ways. I guess we keep at it.


As if I cared about what passes for thought among you right-wing
****ants...

Musta slipped by your filters, eh?


That idiot reads *everything*. He can't help it - and he has a lot of
time on his hands.

Before everyone freaks out ....
 

On Wed, 03 Feb 2016 14:12:25 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 03 Feb 2016 11:50:33 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 03 Feb 2016 09:48:46 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Tue, 2 Feb 2016 18:09:24 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote:

On 2/2/2016 5:02 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/2/2016 4:21 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 2 Feb 2016 15:30:17 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/2/16 3:28 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 2 Feb 2016 12:01:05 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:

Y'all seem to want to bend over backwards to protect hate speech.
No wonder ' merica is so screwed up and getting worse. Sure hope it
doesn't spill over the border when y'all implode.

Freedom of speech is EXACTLY protecting the speech you hate.

As soon as you let the government decide which speech is worthy of
protection and which is not, you are on your way to a dictatorship.

Bull****.

I bet you were not saying that when guys like me were still defending
the rights of the protestors in the 60s, right up until they started
blowing stuff up.
I disagreed with what they said but I understood they still had the
right to say it.

It seems that the left is actually the least tolerant of anyone else's
views. You only have to look at a college campus now to see that.


In our lifetime we have witnessed a transformation of the USA from a
creative, resourceful nation populated with people who demonstrated self
initiative, responsibility and accountability. Those classic values
have been replaced with a dependence on "government" to provide for and
take care of all. That mentality also comes through
loud and clear among the young college students. They don't know any
better because they don't know anything else. It's only us old farts
that remember what it was like 40-50 years ago. Sad.



My next door neighbor's son graduated college last year. He's been
laying about her house and he isn't looking for work and doesn't
volunteer to do any chores around the house. She doesn't know what to do
with him. So she's enrolling him back in school. That'll make him so
smart he'll be over qualified for any job he's capable of doing. What a
life!

When my daughter graduated high school she went to George Mason University. At the
end of her first year she was on probation because she played around too much. Told
her I wasn't going to foot the bill for that anymore, and that she could go to a
community college and get her grades up. She wanted to just hang around the house -
no job and no college, much like the kid you mentioned.

I told her she could stay, but it would cost her $250 a month for food and lodging if
she wasn't going to school. She moved out, and moved in with a bunch of other girls
in a townhouse. That lasted a bit over three months. She then decided to go to
community college, got her grades up to a 3.0 average, got accepted to George Mason's
nursing program and became a nurse.

Sometimes a bit of 'tough love' is called for.

My parents went the other way. I got my job at IBM pretty much the day
I got off active duty in the CG (still living at home) and they just
came in one day shortly after that and said "see ya, we are moving to
Florida" and handed me the lease.

You had a job!

Yup $435 a month and don't spend it all in one place ;-)

Before everyone freaks out ....
 

On Wed, 03 Feb 2016 19:53:39 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 03 Feb 2016 14:12:25 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 03 Feb 2016 11:50:33 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 03 Feb 2016 09:48:46 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Tue, 2 Feb 2016 18:09:24 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote:

On 2/2/2016 5:02 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/2/2016 4:21 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 2 Feb 2016 15:30:17 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/2/16 3:28 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 2 Feb 2016 12:01:05 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:

Y'all seem to want to bend over backwards to protect hate speech.
No wonder ' merica is so screwed up and getting worse. Sure hope it
doesn't spill over the border when y'all implode.

Freedom of speech is EXACTLY protecting the speech you hate.

As soon as you let the government decide which speech is worthy of
protection and which is not, you are on your way to a dictatorship.

Bull****.

I bet you were not saying that when guys like me were still defending
the rights of the protestors in the 60s, right up until they started
blowing stuff up.
I disagreed with what they said but I understood they still had the
right to say it.

It seems that the left is actually the least tolerant of anyone else's
views. You only have to look at a college campus now to see that.


In our lifetime we have witnessed a transformation of the USA from a
creative, resourceful nation populated with people who demonstrated self
initiative, responsibility and accountability. Those classic values
have been replaced with a dependence on "government" to provide for and
take care of all. That mentality also comes through
loud and clear among the young college students. They don't know any
better because they don't know anything else. It's only us old farts
that remember what it was like 40-50 years ago. Sad.



My next door neighbor's son graduated college last year. He's been
laying about her house and he isn't looking for work and doesn't
volunteer to do any chores around the house. She doesn't know what to do
with him. So she's enrolling him back in school. That'll make him so
smart he'll be over qualified for any job he's capable of doing. What a
life!

When my daughter graduated high school she went to George Mason University. At the
end of her first year she was on probation because she played around too much. Told
her I wasn't going to foot the bill for that anymore, and that she could go to a
community college and get her grades up. She wanted to just hang around the house -
no job and no college, much like the kid you mentioned.

I told her she could stay, but it would cost her $250 a month for food and lodging if
she wasn't going to school. She moved out, and moved in with a bunch of other girls
in a townhouse. That lasted a bit over three months. She then decided to go to
community college, got her grades up to a 3.0 average, got accepted to George Mason's
nursing program and became a nurse.

Sometimes a bit of 'tough love' is called for.

My parents went the other way. I got my job at IBM pretty much the day
I got off active duty in the CG (still living at home) and they just
came in one day shortly after that and said "see ya, we are moving to
Florida" and handed me the lease.

You had a job!

Yup $435 a month and don't spend it all in one place ;-)

===

What year was that? In 1965 I had a summer job with Western Electric
installing central office telephone equipment in Binghamton, NY. With
over time and allowances was taking home over $200/week - thought I'd
died and gone to heaven. It was not easy work but it sure paid well
for a summer job in the 60s.

Before everyone freaks out ....
 

On Wed, 03 Feb 2016 23:05:31 -0500,
wrote:

On Wed, 03 Feb 2016 19:53:39 -0500, wrote:



You had a job!

Yup $435 a month and don't spend it all in one place ;-)

===

What year was that? In 1965 I had a summer job with Western Electric
installing central office telephone equipment in Binghamton, NY. With
over time and allowances was taking home over $200/week - thought I'd
died and gone to heaven. It was not easy work but it sure paid well
for a summer job in the 60s.

This was 66 and you must have gone to heaven.
IBM was underpaying me but the manager was smart about it. He gave me
a little raise every few months for a couple of years instead of just
giving it to me all at once.
They didn't actually pay me right until they got the request for a
reference from the Maryland State cops.
Suddenly I started making some money.

Before everyone freaks out ....
 

On Wed, 03 Feb 2016 23:05:31 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 03 Feb 2016 19:53:39 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 03 Feb 2016 14:12:25 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 03 Feb 2016 11:50:33 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 03 Feb 2016 09:48:46 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Tue, 2 Feb 2016 18:09:24 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote:

On 2/2/2016 5:02 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/2/2016 4:21 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 2 Feb 2016 15:30:17 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/2/16 3:28 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 2 Feb 2016 12:01:05 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:

Y'all seem to want to bend over backwards to protect hate speech.
No wonder ' merica is so screwed up and getting worse. Sure hope it
doesn't spill over the border when y'all implode.

Freedom of speech is EXACTLY protecting the speech you hate.

As soon as you let the government decide which speech is worthy of
protection and which is not, you are on your way to a dictatorship.

Bull****.

I bet you were not saying that when guys like me were still defending
the rights of the protestors in the 60s, right up until they started
blowing stuff up.
I disagreed with what they said but I understood they still had the
right to say it.

It seems that the left is actually the least tolerant of anyone else's
views. You only have to look at a college campus now to see that.


In our lifetime we have witnessed a transformation of the USA from a
creative, resourceful nation populated with people who demonstrated self
initiative, responsibility and accountability. Those classic values
have been replaced with a dependence on "government" to provide for and
take care of all. That mentality also comes through
loud and clear among the young college students. They don't know any
better because they don't know anything else. It's only us old farts
that remember what it was like 40-50 years ago. Sad.



My next door neighbor's son graduated college last year. He's been
laying about her house and he isn't looking for work and doesn't
volunteer to do any chores around the house. She doesn't know what to do
with him. So she's enrolling him back in school. That'll make him so
smart he'll be over qualified for any job he's capable of doing. What a
life!

When my daughter graduated high school she went to George Mason University. At the
end of her first year she was on probation because she played around too much. Told
her I wasn't going to foot the bill for that anymore, and that she could go to a
community college and get her grades up. She wanted to just hang around the house -
no job and no college, much like the kid you mentioned.

I told her she could stay, but it would cost her $250 a month for food and lodging if
she wasn't going to school. She moved out, and moved in with a bunch of other girls
in a townhouse. That lasted a bit over three months. She then decided to go to
community college, got her grades up to a 3.0 average, got accepted to George Mason's
nursing program and became a nurse.

Sometimes a bit of 'tough love' is called for.

My parents went the other way. I got my job at IBM pretty much the day
I got off active duty in the CG (still living at home) and they just
came in one day shortly after that and said "see ya, we are moving to
Florida" and handed me the lease.

You had a job!

Yup $435 a month and don't spend it all in one place ;-)

===

What year was that? In 1965 I had a summer job with Western Electric
installing central office telephone equipment in Binghamton, NY. With
over time and allowances was taking home over $200/week - thought I'd
died and gone to heaven. It was not easy work but it sure paid well
for a summer job in the 60s.

So what. In 1965 I was making $72/month. But, my food, clothing and shelter were all
free. And I didn't have to pay for ammo.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

Before everyone freaks out ....
 

John H.
- show quoted text -
"So what. In 1965 I was making $72/month. But, my food, clothing and shelter were all
free. And I didn't have to pay for ammo."

......and you were grossly overpaid at that!

Before everyone freaks out ....
 

On Thu, 4 Feb 2016 05:56:14 -0800 (PST), True North wrote:

John H.
- show quoted text -
"So what. In 1965 I was making $72/month. But, my food, clothing and shelter were all
free. And I didn't have to pay for ammo."

.....and you were grossly overpaid at that!

Amen to that! You hit the nail on the head, for sure.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

Before everyone freaks out ....
 

On 2/4/2016 8:56 AM, True North wrote:

John H.
- show quoted text -
"So what. In 1965 I was making $72/month. But, my food, clothing and shelter were all
free. And I didn't have to pay for ammo."

.....and you were grossly overpaid at that!



I distinctly remember paydays early in my Navy days on the first ship.
Every two weeks the crew lined up in and outside the mess decks to be
paid. When my turn came, I'd present my ID card and the dispersing
officer would hand me a small, manilla envelope with all $50 and some
change in it. We were paid in cash back then. Now-a-days everything
is direct deposit.

Before everyone freaks out ....
 

On Thu, 4 Feb 2016 09:26:55 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 2/4/2016 8:56 AM, True North wrote:

John H.
- show quoted text -
"So what. In 1965 I was making $72/month. But, my food, clothing and shelter were all
free. And I didn't have to pay for ammo."

.....and you were grossly overpaid at that!



I distinctly remember paydays early in my Navy days on the first ship.
Every two weeks the crew lined up in and outside the mess decks to be
paid. When my turn came, I'd present my ID card and the dispersing
officer would hand me a small, manilla envelope with all $50 and some
change in it. We were paid in cash back then. Now-a-days everything
is direct deposit.



Cash was king back then. When I got married, my wife got a $95 check - a 'class Q
allotment', I believe they called it. They took $50 from my pay and added $45 to get
the $95 for her. That left me about $45, before taxes. I'd gotten promoted before
getting married so my pay was up close to $90 by then. Of course, the food and
lodging were no longer free!
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

Before everyone freaks out ....
 

On Thu, 04 Feb 2016 08:49:01 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 03 Feb 2016 23:05:31 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 03 Feb 2016 19:53:39 -0500, wrote:


Yup $435 a month and don't spend it all in one place ;-)

===

What year was that? In 1965 I had a summer job with Western Electric
installing central office telephone equipment in Binghamton, NY. With
over time and allowances was taking home over $200/week - thought I'd
died and gone to heaven. It was not easy work but it sure paid well
for a summer job in the 60s.

So what. In 1965 I was making $72/month. But, my food, clothing and shelter were all
free. And I didn't have to pay for ammo.

Same here, that is why the $435 looked so good to me in 66

I was actually an E-3 with sea pay and pro-pay by the end of 65 so it
was a bit better tho. I think the whole package was still less than
$130 a month.

Before everyone freaks out ....
 

On Thu, 4 Feb 2016 09:26:55 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 2/4/2016 8:56 AM, True North wrote:

John H.
- show quoted text -
"So what. In 1965 I was making $72/month. But, my food, clothing and shelter were all
free. And I didn't have to pay for ammo."

.....and you were grossly overpaid at that!



I distinctly remember paydays early in my Navy days on the first ship.
Every two weeks the crew lined up in and outside the mess decks to be
paid. When my turn came, I'd present my ID card and the dispersing
officer would hand me a small, manilla envelope with all $50 and some
change in it. We were paid in cash back then. Now-a-days everything
is direct deposit.



I went to the bank with the quartermaster a few times. I think the
whole crew made less than $25,000 but it was all cash.
They took the chief Gunners mate and one other (armed) guy.
Our 45s were condition 4, mostly just for show but we did have 3
loaded mags.

Before everyone freaks out ....
 

wrote:
On Thu, 04 Feb 2016 08:49:01 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 03 Feb 2016 23:05:31 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 03 Feb 2016 19:53:39 -0500, wrote:


Yup $435 a month and don't spend it all in one place ;-)

===

What year was that? In 1965 I had a summer job with Western Electric
installing central office telephone equipment in Binghamton, NY. With
over time and allowances was taking home over $200/week - thought I'd
died and gone to heaven. It was not easy work but it sure paid well
for a summer job in the 60s.

So what. In 1965 I was making $72/month. But, my food, clothing and shelter were all
free. And I didn't have to pay for ammo.

Same here, that is why the $435 looked so good to me in 66

I was actually an E-3 with sea pay and pro-pay by the end of 65 so it
was a bit better tho. I think the whole package was still less than
$130 a month.


I worked for NCR and had graduated their computer school, so I was making
$120 a week when the draft notice caught up with me. So I joined the AF
reserves and want off the basic and tech school for 45 weeks. 6 weeks
basic and 39 weeks ILS and ground radio nav AIDS school. Making $65 a
month and paying my $62 car payment from savings. I did cut 10 weeks off
the basic electronics part of the course. The AF would let you challenge
the modules, and they set up a class for 8 of us, who knew electronics.
Then back to NCR at end of 1965 to making $500 a month. Which was decent.
Figure my first new car was a 1964 Chevy SS Impala hat was $3374 out the
door in November of 1963. In school pay for NCR was $95 a week and was $25
a week in a rooming house.

Before everyone freaks out ....
 

On Thu, 04 Feb 2016 10:58:46 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Thu, 4 Feb 2016 09:26:55 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 2/4/2016 8:56 AM, True North wrote:

John H.
- show quoted text -
"So what. In 1965 I was making $72/month. But, my food, clothing and shelter were all
free. And I didn't have to pay for ammo."

.....and you were grossly overpaid at that!



I distinctly remember paydays early in my Navy days on the first ship.
Every two weeks the crew lined up in and outside the mess decks to be
paid. When my turn came, I'd present my ID card and the dispersing
officer would hand me a small, manilla envelope with all $50 and some
change in it. We were paid in cash back then. Now-a-days everything
is direct deposit.



Cash was king back then. When I got married, my wife got a $95 check - a 'class Q
allotment', I believe they called it. They took $50 from my pay and added $45 to get
the $95 for her. That left me about $45, before taxes. I'd gotten promoted before
getting married so my pay was up close to $90 by then. Of course, the food and
lodging were no longer free!

What was comrats then? a buck a day? I do remember the old "off base"
guys paying a buck or so for lunch when I was in FT school. In those
days the chow was real good and it was certainly a bargain.
The only rule was "take all you want, eat all you take".

Before everyone freaks out ....
 

On 2/4/16 12:59 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 04 Feb 2016 10:58:46 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Thu, 4 Feb 2016 09:26:55 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 2/4/2016 8:56 AM, True North wrote:

John H.
- show quoted text -
"So what. In 1965 I was making $72/month. But, my food, clothing and shelter were all
free. And I didn't have to pay for ammo."

.....and you were grossly overpaid at that!



I distinctly remember paydays early in my Navy days on the first ship.
Every two weeks the crew lined up in and outside the mess decks to be
paid. When my turn came, I'd present my ID card and the dispersing
officer would hand me a small, manilla envelope with all $50 and some
change in it. We were paid in cash back then. Now-a-days everything
is direct deposit.



Cash was king back then. When I got married, my wife got a $95 check - a 'class Q
allotment', I believe they called it. They took $50 from my pay and added $45 to get
the $95 for her. That left me about $45, before taxes. I'd gotten promoted before
getting married so my pay was up close to $90 by then. Of course, the food and
lodging were no longer free!

What was comrats then? a buck a day? I do remember the old "off base"
guys paying a buck or so for lunch when I was in FT school. In those
days the chow was real good and it was certainly a bargain.
The only rule was "take all you want, eat all you take".


We got paid in cash when I worked for the Bigelow Boiler Company in New
Haven. Every Friday afternoon just before quitting time an armored truck
would roll into the factory yard and we'd line up to get our pay
envelopes. In '63 or '64, I recall. The office workers got paid in
checks every two weeks.

Before everyone freaks out ....
 

On Thu, 4 Feb 2016 09:01:24 -0800, Califbill billnews wrote:

wrote:
On Thu, 04 Feb 2016 08:49:01 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 03 Feb 2016 23:05:31 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 03 Feb 2016 19:53:39 -0500, wrote:


Yup $435 a month and don't spend it all in one place ;-)

===

What year was that? In 1965 I had a summer job with Western Electric
installing central office telephone equipment in Binghamton, NY. With
over time and allowances was taking home over $200/week - thought I'd
died and gone to heaven. It was not easy work but it sure paid well
for a summer job in the 60s.

So what. In 1965 I was making $72/month. But, my food, clothing and shelter were all
free. And I didn't have to pay for ammo.

Same here, that is why the $435 looked so good to me in 66

I was actually an E-3 with sea pay and pro-pay by the end of 65 so it
was a bit better tho. I think the whole package was still less than
$130 a month.


I worked for NCR and had graduated their computer school, so I was making
$120 a week when the draft notice caught up with me. So I joined the AF
reserves and want off the basic and tech school for 45 weeks. 6 weeks
basic and 39 weeks ILS and ground radio nav AIDS school. Making $65 a
month and paying my $62 car payment from savings. I did cut 10 weeks off
the basic electronics part of the course. The AF would let you challenge
the modules, and they set up a class for 8 of us, who knew electronics.
Then back to NCR at end of 1965 to making $500 a month. Which was decent.
Figure my first new car was a 1964 Chevy SS Impala hat was $3374 out the
door in November of 1963. In school pay for NCR was $95 a week and was $25
a week in a rooming house.

I am not sure if I could have tested out of anything in FT school but
I never tried. It was easy to just coast and before long I had a tutor
gig going. I got the E-5 barracks commander through the course and
that was a good chip to have in my pocket. ;-)
If he failed, he would be back in the fleet busted and with a 6 year
commitment. ... and he was in trouble.
For me FT school was an 18 week party. I don't remember any of it
being particularly challenging. Of course going over the class
material every night in the barracks with the boss and a couple other
guys firmed it up in my head. I ended up taking notes for my "class"
as much as for me. I concentrated on trying to dumb down what the
instructor said and summarizing it in simple terms.

Before everyone freaks out ....
 

On 2/4/2016 1:09 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/4/16 12:59 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 04 Feb 2016 10:58:46 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Thu, 4 Feb 2016 09:26:55 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 2/4/2016 8:56 AM, True North wrote:

John H.
- show quoted text -
"So what. In 1965 I was making $72/month. But, my food, clothing
and shelter were all
free. And I didn't have to pay for ammo."

.....and you were grossly overpaid at that!



I distinctly remember paydays early in my Navy days on the first ship.
Every two weeks the crew lined up in and outside the mess decks to be
paid. When my turn came, I'd present my ID card and the dispersing
officer would hand me a small, manilla envelope with all $50 and some
change in it. We were paid in cash back then. Now-a-days everything
is direct deposit.



Cash was king back then. When I got married, my wife got a $95 check
- a 'class Q
allotment', I believe they called it. They took $50 from my pay and
added $45 to get
the $95 for her. That left me about $45, before taxes. I'd gotten
promoted before
getting married so my pay was up close to $90 by then. Of course, the
food and
lodging were no longer free!

What was comrats then? a buck a day? I do remember the old "off base"
guys paying a buck or so for lunch when I was in FT school. In those
days the chow was real good and it was certainly a bargain.
The only rule was "take all you want, eat all you take".


We got paid in cash when I worked for the Bigelow Boiler Company in New
Haven. Every Friday afternoon just before quitting time an armored truck
would roll into the factory yard and we'd line up to get our pay
envelopes. In '63 or '64, I recall. The office workers got paid in
checks every two weeks.


Sorry for chuckling Harry but your post strikes me as being funny.
The vets here are reminiscing about 1960's military pay in the Army,
Navy and Coast Guard and you offer your experience with the Bigelow
Boiler Company. LOL (sorry ... just hit my funny bone)

Before everyone freaks out ....
 

On Thu, 04 Feb 2016 12:59:05 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 04 Feb 2016 10:58:46 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Thu, 4 Feb 2016 09:26:55 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 2/4/2016 8:56 AM, True North wrote:

John H.
- show quoted text -
"So what. In 1965 I was making $72/month. But, my food, clothing and shelter were all
free. And I didn't have to pay for ammo."

.....and you were grossly overpaid at that!



I distinctly remember paydays early in my Navy days on the first ship.
Every two weeks the crew lined up in and outside the mess decks to be
paid. When my turn came, I'd present my ID card and the dispersing
officer would hand me a small, manilla envelope with all $50 and some
change in it. We were paid in cash back then. Now-a-days everything
is direct deposit.



Cash was king back then. When I got married, my wife got a $95 check - a 'class Q
allotment', I believe they called it. They took $50 from my pay and added $45 to get
the $95 for her. That left me about $45, before taxes. I'd gotten promoted before
getting married so my pay was up close to $90 by then. Of course, the food and
lodging were no longer free!

What was comrats then? a buck a day? I do remember the old "off base"
guys paying a buck or so for lunch when I was in FT school. In those
days the chow was real good and it was certainly a bargain.
The only rule was "take all you want, eat all you take".

Couldn't have been a buck. My separate rations pay was only $48 a month, as I recall.
Oh, and I forgot I was also getting a quarters allowance of $55 a month. Damn, we
were rolling in the dough.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

Before everyone freaks out ....
 

On Thu, 4 Feb 2016 13:09:32 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/4/16 12:59 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 04 Feb 2016 10:58:46 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Thu, 4 Feb 2016 09:26:55 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 2/4/2016 8:56 AM, True North wrote:

John H.
- show quoted text -
"So what. In 1965 I was making $72/month. But, my food, clothing and shelter were all
free. And I didn't have to pay for ammo."

.....and you were grossly overpaid at that!



I distinctly remember paydays early in my Navy days on the first ship.
Every two weeks the crew lined up in and outside the mess decks to be
paid. When my turn came, I'd present my ID card and the dispersing
officer would hand me a small, manilla envelope with all $50 and some
change in it. We were paid in cash back then. Now-a-days everything
is direct deposit.



Cash was king back then. When I got married, my wife got a $95 check - a 'class Q
allotment', I believe they called it. They took $50 from my pay and added $45 to get
the $95 for her. That left me about $45, before taxes. I'd gotten promoted before
getting married so my pay was up close to $90 by then. Of course, the food and
lodging were no longer free!

What was comrats then? a buck a day? I do remember the old "off base"
guys paying a buck or so for lunch when I was in FT school. In those
days the chow was real good and it was certainly a bargain.
The only rule was "take all you want, eat all you take".


We got paid in cash when I worked for the Bigelow Boiler Company in New
Haven. Every Friday afternoon just before quitting time an armored truck
would roll into the factory yard and we'd line up to get our pay
envelopes. In '63 or '64, I recall. The office workers got paid in
checks every two weeks.


I was paid in cash when I was a Teamster too, At Swift I got a W2, at
Brestler it was just money.