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Intoxicated conceal-carry gun owner shot and critically wounded a woman during Benghazi movie in WA Renton police say the suspect, who appeared intoxicated, went to the showing of "13 Hours." Police say the man walked inside the theater with a gun and "accidentally" discharged his weapon, hitting a woman in the theater. The woman has been upgraded from critical to serious condition. The man took off, but his dad did the right thing: Police believe the suspect initially left the scene on Thursday evening right after the shooting, but the man's father called 911 a short time later to turn him in. The 29-year-old surrendered to police at his family's home in Newcastle. The suspect told detectives the shooting was an accident that took place when he dropped his gun inside the theater. The man reportedly said the gun discharged when it fell to the ground. He also said he'd been drinking before the shooting took place. - - - |
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On Fri, 22 Jan 2016 11:22:40 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote: Intoxicated conceal-carry gun owner shot and critically wounded a woman during Benghazi movie in WA Renton police say the suspect, who appeared intoxicated, went to the showing of "13 Hours." Police say the man walked inside the theater with a gun and "accidentally" discharged his weapon, hitting a woman in the theater. The woman has been upgraded from critical to serious condition. The man took off, but his dad did the right thing: Police believe the suspect initially left the scene on Thursday evening right after the shooting, but the man's father called 911 a short time later to turn him in. The 29-year-old surrendered to police at his family's home in Newcastle. The suspect told detectives the shooting was an accident that took place when he dropped his gun inside the theater. The man reportedly said the gun discharged when it fell to the ground. He also said he'd been drinking before the shooting took place. === We can always count on you to make light of someone else's serious problems. WAFA. |
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Keyser Söze
"Intoxicated conceal-carry gun owner shot and critically wounded a woman during Benghazi movie in WA Renton police say the suspect, who appeared intoxicated, went to the showing of "13 Hours." Police say the man walked inside the theater with a gun and "accidentally" discharged his weapon, hitting a woman in the theater. The woman has been upgraded from critical to serious condition. The man took off, but his dad did the right thing: Police believe the suspect initially left the scene on Thursday evening right after the shooting, but the man's father called 911 a short time later to turn him in. *The 29-year-old surrendered to police at his family's home in Newcastle. The suspect told detectives the shooting was an accident that took place when he dropped his gun inside the theater. The man reportedly said the gun discharged when it fell to the ground. He also said he'd been drinking before the shooting took place." What the 'ell? The US should be put on the 'no visit list until sanity breaks out and something is done about all the handguns. Just the thought of drunks walking around packing heat is enough to give civilized people the willies! |
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On 1/22/2016 11:22 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
Intoxicated conceal-carry gun owner shot and critically wounded a woman during Benghazi movie in WA Renton police say the suspect, who appeared intoxicated, went to the showing of "13 Hours." Police say the man walked inside the theater with a gun and "accidentally" discharged his weapon, hitting a woman in the theater. The woman has been upgraded from critical to serious condition. The man took off, but his dad did the right thing: Police believe the suspect initially left the scene on Thursday evening right after the shooting, but the man's father called 911 a short time later to turn him in. The 29-year-old surrendered to police at his family's home in Newcastle. The suspect told detectives the shooting was an accident that took place when he dropped his gun inside the theater. The man reportedly said the gun discharged when it fell to the ground. He also said he'd been drinking before the shooting took place. - - - That's one of the reasons Massachusetts does "drop tests" on handguns as part of the compliance inspection process. |
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On Fri, 22 Jan 2016 11:22:40 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote: Intoxicated conceal-carry gun owner shot and critically wounded a woman during Benghazi movie in WA How did he get to the movie? Statistically that guy was a lot more dangerous driving drunk than dropping his gun ... but that is not "news". |
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On Fri, 22 Jan 2016 12:06:21 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: On 1/22/2016 11:22 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: Intoxicated conceal-carry gun owner shot and critically wounded a woman during Benghazi movie in WA Renton police say the suspect, who appeared intoxicated, went to the showing of "13 Hours." Police say the man walked inside the theater with a gun and "accidentally" discharged his weapon, hitting a woman in the theater. The woman has been upgraded from critical to serious condition. The man took off, but his dad did the right thing: Police believe the suspect initially left the scene on Thursday evening right after the shooting, but the man's father called 911 a short time later to turn him in. The 29-year-old surrendered to police at his family's home in Newcastle. The suspect told detectives the shooting was an accident that took place when he dropped his gun inside the theater. The man reportedly said the gun discharged when it fell to the ground. He also said he'd been drinking before the shooting took place. - - - That's one of the reasons Massachusetts does "drop tests" on handguns as part of the compliance inspection process. I wondered about that myself. I would be curious what the gun was and how it was being carried. It is one of the advantages of pistols like my Ruger. It is DA and carried with the hammer down. Even a 100 year old design like the 1911 is "drop" safe, even in condition 1 (cocked and locked) I imagine there are some off brand "ring of fire" guns that are not safe. |
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On Fri, 22 Jan 2016 08:43:15 -0800 (PST), True North wrote:
Keyser Söze "Intoxicated conceal-carry gun owner shot and critically wounded a woman during Benghazi movie in WA Renton police say the suspect, who appeared intoxicated, went to the showing of "13 Hours." Police say the man walked inside the theater with a gun and "accidentally" discharged his weapon, hitting a woman in the theater. The woman has been upgraded from critical to serious condition. The man took off, but his dad did the right thing: Police believe the suspect initially left the scene on Thursday evening right after the shooting, but the man's father called 911 a short time later to turn him in. *The 29-year-old surrendered to police at his family's home in Newcastle. The suspect told detectives the shooting was an accident that took place when he dropped his gun inside the theater. The man reportedly said the gun discharged when it fell to the ground. He also said he'd been drinking before the shooting took place." What the 'ell? The US should be put on the 'no visit list until sanity breaks out and something is done about all the handguns. Just the thought of drunks walking around packing heat is enough to give civilized people the willies! And just think, your only buddy has a potfull. "Maybe it has to do with trust in government. Alan Voth, a firearms expert formerly with the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, said after the [Ottawa] shooting that “Canadians have the mentality that the government will protect us – and we’re more likely to look to them for [our] safety. Americans take more responsibility for their own security.” -- Ban idiots, not guns! |
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On Fri, 22 Jan 2016 12:06:21 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 1/22/2016 11:22 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: Intoxicated conceal-carry gun owner shot and critically wounded a woman during Benghazi movie in WA Renton police say the suspect, who appeared intoxicated, went to the showing of "13 Hours." Police say the man walked inside the theater with a gun and "accidentally" discharged his weapon, hitting a woman in the theater. The woman has been upgraded from critical to serious condition. The man took off, but his dad did the right thing: Police believe the suspect initially left the scene on Thursday evening right after the shooting, but the man's father called 911 a short time later to turn him in. The 29-year-old surrendered to police at his family's home in Newcastle. The suspect told detectives the shooting was an accident that took place when he dropped his gun inside the theater. The man reportedly said the gun discharged when it fell to the ground. He also said he'd been drinking before the shooting took place. - - - That's one of the reasons Massachusetts does "drop tests" on handguns as part of the compliance inspection process. Do drunks do the test? -- Ban idiots, not guns! |
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On Fri, 22 Jan 2016 13:34:36 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/22/16 12:23 PM, wrote: On Fri, 22 Jan 2016 11:22:40 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: Intoxicated conceal-carry gun owner shot and critically wounded a woman during Benghazi movie in WA How did he get to the movie? Statistically that guy was a lot more dangerous driving drunk than dropping his gun ... but that is not "news". You seem to have an apologetica ready for any sort of gun nonsense. You seem to spend a lot of time searching for gun nonsense. Why? Are you trying to show what a 'sensiible' person you are? -- Ban idiots, not guns! |
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On Fri, 22 Jan 2016 13:34:36 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote: On 1/22/16 12:23 PM, wrote: On Fri, 22 Jan 2016 11:22:40 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: Intoxicated conceal-carry gun owner shot and critically wounded a woman during Benghazi movie in WA How did he get to the movie? Statistically that guy was a lot more dangerous driving drunk than dropping his gun ... but that is not "news". You seem to have an apologetica ready for any sort of gun nonsense. And you hype up the .01% A stranger being injured in a gun accident is way down in the noise of any statistic, even gun deaths. They are all far behind DUI car accidents. Is it unreasonable to ask how he got to the movie? |
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On Friday, January 22, 2016 at 11:43:19 AM UTC-5, True North wrote:
Just the thought of drunks walking around packing heat is enough to give civilized people the willies! Why? You wander around the house drunk all the time along with your louse of a Son, while your long-suffering Wife digs out the driveway. |
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On 1/22/16 2:25 PM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 22 Jan 2016 13:34:36 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/22/16 12:23 PM, wrote: On Fri, 22 Jan 2016 11:22:40 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: Intoxicated conceal-carry gun owner shot and critically wounded a woman during Benghazi movie in WA How did he get to the movie? Statistically that guy was a lot more dangerous driving drunk than dropping his gun ... but that is not "news". You seem to have an apologetica ready for any sort of gun nonsense. You seem to spend a lot of time searching for gun nonsense. Why? Are you trying to show what a 'sensiible' person you are? -- Ban idiots, not guns! Gun nonsense? Well, that says a lot about you. |
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Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/22/2016 11:22 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: Intoxicated conceal-carry gun owner shot and critically wounded a woman during Benghazi movie in WA Renton police say the suspect, who appeared intoxicated, went to the showing of "13 Hours." Police say the man walked inside the theater with a gun and "accidentally" discharged his weapon, hitting a woman in the theater. The woman has been upgraded from critical to serious condition. The man took off, but his dad did the right thing: Police believe the suspect initially left the scene on Thursday evening right after the shooting, but the man's father called 911 a short time later to turn him in. The 29-year-old surrendered to police at his family's home in Newcastle. The suspect told detectives the shooting was an accident that took place when he dropped his gun inside the theater. The man reportedly said the gun discharged when it fell to the ground. He also said he'd been drinking before the shooting took place. - - - That's one of the reasons Massachusetts does "drop tests" on handguns as part of the compliance inspection process. I would hate to be the guy with that job! |
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"I would hate to be the guy with that job!" Gee...don't y'all think they might have a mechanical machine to do it? |
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On Fri, 22 Jan 2016 19:53:30 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote: On 1/22/16 3:39 PM, wrote: On Fri, 22 Jan 2016 13:34:36 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/22/16 12:23 PM, wrote: On Fri, 22 Jan 2016 11:22:40 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: Intoxicated conceal-carry gun owner shot and critically wounded a woman during Benghazi movie in WA How did he get to the movie? Statistically that guy was a lot more dangerous driving drunk than dropping his gun ... but that is not "news". You seem to have an apologetica ready for any sort of gun nonsense. And you hype up the .01% A stranger being injured in a gun accident is way down in the noise of any statistic, even gun deaths. They are all far behind DUI car accidents. Is it unreasonable to ask how he got to the movie? LEt's just keep minimizing gun violence Is that any worse than making it sound more pervasive than it is? People like you try to present the aberrations as the normal thing. It is the same scare tactic the left uses for a lot of their pet causes. You distract from far more important problems, but maybe that is the intent. |
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On Fri, 22 Jan 2016 19:38:14 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote: Ditzy Dan spews... "I would hate to be the guy with that job!" Gee...don't y'all think they might have a mechanical machine to do it? You don't need a live round to drop test a gun. A blank or just an empty primed case will work just fine. (the latter being the easiest and cheapest). I also doubt this is a machine. I imagine there is a protocol they follow (height, surface, angle etc). They just have some government apparatchik sitting on a stool dropping guns all day. |
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True North wrote:
Ditzy Dan spews... "I would hate to be the guy with that job!" Gee...don't y'all think they might have a mechanical machine to do it? Na, just some crown Corp fluky. |
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On 1/23/2016 5:37 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/23/2016 1:02 AM, wrote: On Fri, 22 Jan 2016 19:38:14 -0800 (PST), True North wrote: Ditzy Dan spews... "I would hate to be the guy with that job!" Gee...don't y'all think they might have a mechanical machine to do it? You don't need a live round to drop test a gun. A blank or just an empty primed case will work just fine. (the latter being the easiest and cheapest). I also doubt this is a machine. I imagine there is a protocol they follow (height, surface, angle etc). They just have some government apparatchik sitting on a stool dropping guns all day. Just a clarification ... virtually *all* handguns since the 1940's have some sort of transfer block or other mechanism that prevents the hammer from striking the firing pin unless the trigger is pulled. The drop test required in Massachusetts is intended to ensure the mechanism works as advertised. I wouldn't get all warm and fuzzy knowing that, at some point in a gun's life, it passed a drop test. There are some cowboys out there who have trigger work done that would make a gun more likely to go off when dropped. There was a poster here that had work done on his gun that caused it to be dangerous to even look at. He got rid of it like a hot potatoe once it was brought to his attention how dangerous that gun was. |
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5:24 AMJustan Olphart
- show quoted text - I wouldn't get all warm and fuzzy knowing that, at some point in a gun's life, it passed a drop test. There are some cowboys out there who have trigger work done that would make a gun more likely to go off when dropped. There was a poster here that had work done on his gun that caused it to be dangerous to even look at. He got rid of it like a hot potatoe once it was brought to his attention how dangerous that gun was. -------- Polishing triggers. I never saw much future in stuff like that. |
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On Fri, 22 Jan 2016 19:54:12 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/22/16 2:25 PM, John H. wrote: On Fri, 22 Jan 2016 13:34:36 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/22/16 12:23 PM, wrote: On Fri, 22 Jan 2016 11:22:40 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: Intoxicated conceal-carry gun owner shot and critically wounded a woman during Benghazi movie in WA How did he get to the movie? Statistically that guy was a lot more dangerous driving drunk than dropping his gun ... but that is not "news". You seem to have an apologetica ready for any sort of gun nonsense. You seem to spend a lot of time searching for gun nonsense. Why? Are you trying to show what a 'sensiible' person you are? -- Ban idiots, not guns! Gun nonsense? Well, that says a lot about you. I don't suppose you recall using the phrase, eh? I'm trying hard not to call you some names you know you deserve. -- Ban idiots, not guns! |
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On Fri, 22 Jan 2016 19:38:14 -0800 (PST), True North wrote:
Ditzy Dan spews... "I would hate to be the guy with that job!" Gee...don't y'all think they might have a mechanical machine to do it? No, they use a drunk. How else could they replicate Harry's scenario. -- Ban idiots, not guns! |
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On Sat, 23 Jan 2016 06:26:02 -0500, Justan Olphart
wrote: On 1/23/2016 5:37 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 1/23/2016 1:02 AM, wrote: On Fri, 22 Jan 2016 19:38:14 -0800 (PST), True North wrote: Ditzy Dan spews... "I would hate to be the guy with that job!" Gee...don't y'all think they might have a mechanical machine to do it? You don't need a live round to drop test a gun. A blank or just an empty primed case will work just fine. (the latter being the easiest and cheapest). I also doubt this is a machine. I imagine there is a protocol they follow (height, surface, angle etc). They just have some government apparatchik sitting on a stool dropping guns all day. Just a clarification ... virtually *all* handguns since the 1940's have some sort of transfer block or other mechanism that prevents the hammer from striking the firing pin unless the trigger is pulled. The drop test required in Massachusetts is intended to ensure the mechanism works as advertised. I wouldn't get all warm and fuzzy knowing that, at some point in a gun's life, it passed a drop test. There are some cowboys out there who have trigger work done that would make a gun more likely to go off when dropped. There was a poster here that had work done on his gun that caused it to be dangerous to even look at. He got rid of it like a hot potatoe once it was brought to his attention how dangerous that gun was. Cowboy action shooters have single action pistols and they usually hold the trigger all the way down and thumb the hammer to shoot. I am not sure what you would have to do with it. The only way those old Colt design pistols were safe was with the hammer down over an empty chamber anyway. It is a little safer in the half cock position but not much. I think my Frontier Scout is drop safe but I still only load 5 most of the time |
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On 1/23/2016 12:27 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
Tim Wrote in message: 5:24 AMJustan Olphart - show quoted text - I wouldn't get all warm and fuzzy knowing that, at some point in a gun's life, it passed a drop test. There are some cowboys out there who have trigger work done that would make a gun more likely to go off when dropped. There was a poster here that had work done on his gun that caused it to be dangerous to even look at. He got rid of it like a hot potatoe once it was brought to his attention how dangerous that gun was. -------- Polishing triggers. I never saw much future in stuff like that. I never have a round chambered unless I am about to fire 5th edition gun. Four of the five firearms I use have had trigger jobs. They won't fire without a round in the chamber or if dropped. Flajim is just playing his usual role as usenet asshole. Are you assuming I was talking about you and the CZ you destroyed? |
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On Sat, 23 Jan 2016 12:27:22 -0500 (EST), Keyser Soze wrote:
Tim Wrote in message: 5:24 AMJustan Olphart - show quoted text - I wouldn't get all warm and fuzzy knowing that, at some point in a gun's life, it passed a drop test. There are some cowboys out there who have trigger work done that would make a gun more likely to go off when dropped. There was a poster here that had work done on his gun that caused it to be dangerous to even look at. He got rid of it like a hot potatoe once it was brought to his attention how dangerous that gun was. -------- Polishing triggers. I never saw much future in stuff like that. I never have a round chambered unless I am about to fire 5th edition gun. Four of the five firearms I use have had trigger jobs. They won't fire without a round in the chamber or if dropped. Flajim is just playing his usual role as usenet asshole. Are you confusing hand jobs with trigger jobs? And, FlaJim doesn't even come close to being a 'usenet asshole'. Shame on you, especially as you know better...being an expert on usenet assholishness and all. How're the owls doing in all this snow? -- Ban idiots, not guns! |
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On 1/23/16 12:50 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 23 Jan 2016 12:27:22 -0500 (EST), Keyser Soze wrote: Tim Wrote in message: 5:24 AMJustan Olphart - show quoted text - I wouldn't get all warm and fuzzy knowing that, at some point in a gun's life, it passed a drop test. There are some cowboys out there who have trigger work done that would make a gun more likely to go off when dropped. There was a poster here that had work done on his gun that caused it to be dangerous to even look at. He got rid of it like a hot potatoe once it was brought to his attention how dangerous that gun was. -------- Polishing triggers. I never saw much future in stuff like that. I never have a round chambered unless I am about to fire 5th edition gun. Four of the five firearms I use have had trigger jobs. They won't fire without a round in the chamber or if dropped. Flajim is just playing his usual role as usenet asshole. Are you confusing hand jobs with trigger jobs? And, FlaJim doesn't even come close to being a 'usenet asshole'. Shame on you, especially as you know better...being an expert on usenet assholishness and all. How're the owls doing in all this snow? -- Ban idiots, not guns! I value your opinion almost as little as I value FlaJim's. He's a usenet asshole. |
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On Sat, 23 Jan 2016 12:54:43 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/23/16 12:50 PM, John H. wrote: On Sat, 23 Jan 2016 12:27:22 -0500 (EST), Keyser Soze wrote: Tim Wrote in message: 5:24 AMJustan Olphart - show quoted text - I wouldn't get all warm and fuzzy knowing that, at some point in a gun's life, it passed a drop test. There are some cowboys out there who have trigger work done that would make a gun more likely to go off when dropped. There was a poster here that had work done on his gun that caused it to be dangerous to even look at. He got rid of it like a hot potatoe once it was brought to his attention how dangerous that gun was. -------- Polishing triggers. I never saw much future in stuff like that. I never have a round chambered unless I am about to fire 5th edition gun. Four of the five firearms I use have had trigger jobs. They won't fire without a round in the chamber or if dropped. Flajim is just playing his usual role as usenet asshole. Are you confusing hand jobs with trigger jobs? And, FlaJim doesn't even come close to being a 'usenet asshole'. Shame on you, especially as you know better...being an expert on usenet assholishness and all. How're the owls doing in all this snow? -- Ban idiots, not guns! I value your opinion almost as little as I value FlaJim's. He's a usenet asshole. I gave you no opinion. Uh....the owls? -- Ban idiots, not guns! |
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On 1/23/2016 12:54 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/23/16 12:50 PM, John H. wrote: On Sat, 23 Jan 2016 12:27:22 -0500 (EST), Keyser Soze wrote: Tim Wrote in message: 5:24 AMJustan Olphart - show quoted text - I wouldn't get all warm and fuzzy knowing that, at some point in a gun's life, it passed a drop test. There are some cowboys out there who have trigger work done that would make a gun more likely to go off when dropped. There was a poster here that had work done on his gun that caused it to be dangerous to even look at. He got rid of it like a hot potatoe once it was brought to his attention how dangerous that gun was. -------- Polishing triggers. I never saw much future in stuff like that. I never have a round chambered unless I am about to fire 5th edition gun. Four of the five firearms I use have had trigger jobs. They won't fire without a round in the chamber or if dropped. Flajim is just playing his usual role as usenet asshole. Are you confusing hand jobs with trigger jobs? And, FlaJim doesn't even come close to being a 'usenet asshole'. Shame on you, especially as you know better...being an expert on usenet assholishness and all. How're the owls doing in all this snow? -- Ban idiots, not guns! I value your opinion almost as little as I value FlaJim's. He's a usenet asshole. I'm really a nice guy, but I also understand why YOU think I'm an asshole. |
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