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Mr. Luddite January 12th 16 11:34 PM

She's got quite a fan club
 
On 1/12/2016 6:27 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/12/16 5:49 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/12/2016 5:27 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/12/16 5:19 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/12/2016 2:28 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/12/16 12:02 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 12 Jan 2016 05:58:03 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Mon, 11 Jan 2016 17:10:20 -0500,
wrote:

On Mon, 11 Jan 2016 15:10:14 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Mon, 11 Jan 2016 09:46:27 -0500,

wrote:

On Mon, 11 Jan 2016 05:55:32 -0500, Justan Olphart

wrote:

http://spectator.org/articles/65141/killer-endorsement

===

I'm not a big fan of Hillary but people need to get over this
notion
that Planned Parenthood and abortion are the biggest issues
facing
the
country.

Agreed, although I don't like paying taxes to support Planned
Parenthood.

Perhaps the answer is for PP to separate out it's abortion business
from the other medical services they provide. Let people choose
where
their money goes. I am not against the abortion part myself. As a
cheap ******* I understand it saves money in the long run but I
understand some folks think every future junkie and car jacker has
the
right to life.

Don't forget to throw in the engineers and doctors!

For every Ben Carson you have thousands of people who cycle between
welfare, crime and jail



For every Ben Carson, you have thousands of people who are not bigoted
assholes. I take no real joy in his demonstrating his unfitness for
political office, because the bigoted assholes in the GOP who are
sucking up his supporters are as bad or worse.

I'm unconvinced the righties are opposed to abortion because of their
alleged respect for human life. I think that is bull****...they
disrespect human life in so many other ways. I think it has almost
everything to do with the attempt to continue to control the sexuality
of women.

You sure have some bizarre and frankly unhealthy (mentally) ideas
floating around in your head. Have you ever considered therapy to get
to the root of the problems?

Perhaps I am reacting to the hate, division, fear-mongering, racism,
anti-abortionism, sexism, xenophobia, and anti-gay talk I see coming
constantly from the GOP presidential wannabes and their congressional
brothers and sisters, and many of the Republican governors. They just
never seem to stop. I know many of them are "fighting" for the
"evangelical" and "base" vote, but, crikey, if you have to be that
hateful 24-7 to get those voters, you become just like them.


You are allowing the beliefs and comments of a very few speak for the
total GOP in your mind. You are super sensitized to this and
automatically interpret everything you hear or see through that filter.

Actually, I made that up. You'll just find and say anything possible to
get a Democrat elected even if she may be headed for an indictment
before she even gets started. :-)



Whatever "the total GOP is," not much of it is vocally objecting to the
horrific statements most of its candidates and many of its officeholders
are making. They and not the so-called "mainstream Republicans" (whose
numbers are rapidly diminishing) speak for the party these days.

As for Mrs. Clinton, I don't see an indictment in her future, despite
the fervent wishes of you and several others here. And, yes, I would far
prefer to see her or Bernie elected than *any* of the Republicans
seeking that office. You betcha.



I'd take Bernie before Hillary and that's saying a lot. At least
Bernie is honest. Hillary is ... you know ... Hillary. She keeps
reinventing herself every two or three weeks trying to stop the
bleeding. She'll say anything to prevent Bernie from stealing any more
caucus and primary voters.

Keyser Söze January 12th 16 11:45 PM

She's got quite a fan club
 
On 1/12/16 6:34 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/12/2016 6:27 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/12/16 5:49 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/12/2016 5:27 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/12/16 5:19 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/12/2016 2:28 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/12/16 12:02 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 12 Jan 2016 05:58:03 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Mon, 11 Jan 2016 17:10:20 -0500,
wrote:

On Mon, 11 Jan 2016 15:10:14 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Mon, 11 Jan 2016 09:46:27 -0500,

wrote:

On Mon, 11 Jan 2016 05:55:32 -0500, Justan Olphart

wrote:

http://spectator.org/articles/65141/killer-endorsement

===

I'm not a big fan of Hillary but people need to get over this
notion
that Planned Parenthood and abortion are the biggest issues
facing
the
country.

Agreed, although I don't like paying taxes to support Planned
Parenthood.

Perhaps the answer is for PP to separate out it's abortion
business
from the other medical services they provide. Let people choose
where
their money goes. I am not against the abortion part myself. As a
cheap ******* I understand it saves money in the long run but I
understand some folks think every future junkie and car jacker has
the
right to life.

Don't forget to throw in the engineers and doctors!

For every Ben Carson you have thousands of people who cycle between
welfare, crime and jail



For every Ben Carson, you have thousands of people who are not
bigoted
assholes. I take no real joy in his demonstrating his unfitness for
political office, because the bigoted assholes in the GOP who are
sucking up his supporters are as bad or worse.

I'm unconvinced the righties are opposed to abortion because of their
alleged respect for human life. I think that is bull****...they
disrespect human life in so many other ways. I think it has almost
everything to do with the attempt to continue to control the
sexuality
of women.

You sure have some bizarre and frankly unhealthy (mentally) ideas
floating around in your head. Have you ever considered therapy to get
to the root of the problems?

Perhaps I am reacting to the hate, division, fear-mongering, racism,
anti-abortionism, sexism, xenophobia, and anti-gay talk I see coming
constantly from the GOP presidential wannabes and their congressional
brothers and sisters, and many of the Republican governors. They just
never seem to stop. I know many of them are "fighting" for the
"evangelical" and "base" vote, but, crikey, if you have to be that
hateful 24-7 to get those voters, you become just like them.

You are allowing the beliefs and comments of a very few speak for the
total GOP in your mind. You are super sensitized to this and
automatically interpret everything you hear or see through that filter.

Actually, I made that up. You'll just find and say anything possible to
get a Democrat elected even if she may be headed for an indictment
before she even gets started. :-)



Whatever "the total GOP is," not much of it is vocally objecting to the
horrific statements most of its candidates and many of its officeholders
are making. They and not the so-called "mainstream Republicans" (whose
numbers are rapidly diminishing) speak for the party these days.

As for Mrs. Clinton, I don't see an indictment in her future, despite
the fervent wishes of you and several others here. And, yes, I would far
prefer to see her or Bernie elected than *any* of the Republicans
seeking that office. You betcha.



I'd take Bernie before Hillary and that's saying a lot. At least
Bernie is honest. Hillary is ... you know ... Hillary. She keeps
reinventing herself every two or three weeks trying to stop the
bleeding. She'll say anything to prevent Bernie from stealing any more
caucus and primary voters.


In that regard, Mrs. Clinton is no different than the guys and gal
running for your party's nomination. I almost choked on my coffee
earlier, because I thought I heard a CNN announcer say that Halle Berry,
my old girlfriend, was going to give the GOP response to the SOTU. Alas,
I misheard. :(

Justan Olphart[_2_] January 13th 16 12:15 AM

She's got quite a fan club
 
On 1/12/2016 2:28 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/12/16 12:02 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 12 Jan 2016 05:58:03 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Mon, 11 Jan 2016 17:10:20 -0500,
wrote:

On Mon, 11 Jan 2016 15:10:14 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Mon, 11 Jan 2016 09:46:27 -0500,

wrote:

On Mon, 11 Jan 2016 05:55:32 -0500, Justan Olphart

wrote:

http://spectator.org/articles/65141/killer-endorsement

===

I'm not a big fan of Hillary but people need to get over this notion
that Planned Parenthood and abortion are the biggest issues facing
the
country.

Agreed, although I don't like paying taxes to support Planned
Parenthood.

Perhaps the answer is for PP to separate out it's abortion business
from the other medical services they provide. Let people choose where
their money goes. I am not against the abortion part myself. As a
cheap ******* I understand it saves money in the long run but I
understand some folks think every future junkie and car jacker has the
right to life.

Don't forget to throw in the engineers and doctors!


For every Ben Carson you have thousands of people who cycle between
welfare, crime and jail



For every Ben Carson, you have thousands of people who are not bigoted
assholes. I take no real joy in his demonstrating his unfitness for
political office, because the bigoted assholes in the GOP who are
sucking up his supporters are as bad or worse.

I'm unconvinced the righties are opposed to abortion because of their
alleged respect for human life. I think that is bull****...they
disrespect human life in so many other ways. I think it has almost
everything to do with the attempt to continue to control the sexuality
of women.


Who's going to take Hillery's place when she goes to the clinker for
mixing federal business with her foundation business. Man, she's a scumbag.

Justan Olphart[_2_] January 13th 16 12:19 AM

She's got quite a fan club
 
On 1/12/2016 2:46 PM, Tim wrote:
On Tuesday, January 12, 2016 at 1:28:55 PM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/12/16 12:02 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 12 Jan 2016 05:58:03 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Mon, 11 Jan 2016 17:10:20 -0500,
wrote:

On Mon, 11 Jan 2016 15:10:14 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Mon, 11 Jan 2016 09:46:27 -0500,
wrote:

On Mon, 11 Jan 2016 05:55:32 -0500, Justan Olphart
wrote:

http://spectator.org/articles/65141/killer-endorsement

===

I'm not a big fan of Hillary but people need to get over this notion
that Planned Parenthood and abortion are the biggest issues facing the
country.

Agreed, although I don't like paying taxes to support Planned Parenthood.

Perhaps the answer is for PP to separate out it's abortion business
from the other medical services they provide. Let people choose where
their money goes. I am not against the abortion part myself. As a
cheap ******* I understand it saves money in the long run but I
understand some folks think every future junkie and car jacker has the
right to life.

Don't forget to throw in the engineers and doctors!

For every Ben Carson you have thousands of people who cycle between
welfare, crime and jail



For every Ben Carson, you have thousands of people who are not bigoted
assholes. I take no real joy in his demonstrating his unfitness for
political office, because the bigoted assholes in the GOP who are
sucking up his supporters are as bad or worse.

I'm unconvinced the righties are opposed to abortion because of their
alleged respect for human life. I think that is bull****...they
disrespect human life in so many other ways. I think it has almost
everything to do with the attempt to continue to control the sexuality
of women.


And regardless of anything proven differently, you always will, Harry. Nothing new there...

Billy Clinton is the ultimate womanizer in chief who shares the
spotlight with Bill Cosby who similarly abuses women.

Justan Olphart[_2_] January 13th 16 12:24 AM

She's got quite a fan club
 
On 1/12/2016 5:27 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/12/16 5:19 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/12/2016 2:28 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/12/16 12:02 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 12 Jan 2016 05:58:03 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Mon, 11 Jan 2016 17:10:20 -0500,
wrote:

On Mon, 11 Jan 2016 15:10:14 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Mon, 11 Jan 2016 09:46:27 -0500,

wrote:

On Mon, 11 Jan 2016 05:55:32 -0500, Justan Olphart

wrote:

http://spectator.org/articles/65141/killer-endorsement

===

I'm not a big fan of Hillary but people need to get over this
notion
that Planned Parenthood and abortion are the biggest issues facing
the
country.

Agreed, although I don't like paying taxes to support Planned
Parenthood.

Perhaps the answer is for PP to separate out it's abortion business
from the other medical services they provide. Let people choose where
their money goes. I am not against the abortion part myself. As a
cheap ******* I understand it saves money in the long run but I
understand some folks think every future junkie and car jacker has
the
right to life.

Don't forget to throw in the engineers and doctors!

For every Ben Carson you have thousands of people who cycle between
welfare, crime and jail



For every Ben Carson, you have thousands of people who are not bigoted
assholes. I take no real joy in his demonstrating his unfitness for
political office, because the bigoted assholes in the GOP who are
sucking up his supporters are as bad or worse.

I'm unconvinced the righties are opposed to abortion because of their
alleged respect for human life. I think that is bull****...they
disrespect human life in so many other ways. I think it has almost
everything to do with the attempt to continue to control the sexuality
of women.


You sure have some bizarre and frankly unhealthy (mentally) ideas
floating around in your head. Have you ever considered therapy to get
to the root of the problems?


Perhaps I am reacting to the hate, division, fear-mongering, racism,
anti-abortionism, sexism, xenophobia, and anti-gay talk I see coming
constantly from the GOP presidential wannabes and their congressional
brothers and sisters, and many of the Republican governors. They just
never seem to stop. I know many of them are "fighting" for the
"evangelical" and "base" vote, but, crikey, if you have to be that
hateful 24-7 to get those voters, you become just like them.


You are blaming your sickness on the GOP? Grow a pair and assume some
personal responsibility for a change.

John H.[_5_] January 13th 16 12:36 AM

She's got quite a fan club
 
On Tue, 12 Jan 2016 17:17:09 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 12 Jan 2016 16:08:35 -0500, John H.
wrote:

I hadn't thought of abortions by race. After your post I looked to see that the rate
of abortiion for blacks is about five times that of whites. I was surprised.


===

I'm not. For various reasons there's a lot less awareness and use of
birth control. Even with higher rates of abortion there are still a
huge number of black out of wedlock children. One parent families
tend to not do very well on average. Statisically their prospects for
growing into educated, responsible adults are very poor. A huge
number will end up on public assistance, and huge numbers will end up
involved with substance abuse and crime. Those are just the facts.


Here, in DC, about 80% of black births are to unwed mothers. I know what you mean.
Bill Cosby, with all his faults, made good points when talking to black men about
taking responsibility for the babies they make. Very many don't.

I can't imagine them being unaware of birth control. Sex education, including birth
prevention, is taught in the public schools. In fact, it might be taught to the
detriment of math and reading!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/1...n_2295395.html
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

[email protected] January 13th 16 05:03 PM

She's got quite a fan club
 
On Tue, 12 Jan 2016 17:17:09 -0500,
wrote:

On Tue, 12 Jan 2016 16:08:35 -0500, John H.
wrote:

I hadn't thought of abortions by race. After your post I looked to see that the rate
of abortiion for blacks is about five times that of whites. I was surprised.


===

I'm not. For various reasons there's a lot less awareness and use of
birth control. Even with higher rates of abortion there are still a
huge number of black out of wedlock children. One parent families
tend to not do very well on average. Statisically their prospects for
growing into educated, responsible adults are very poor. A huge
number will end up on public assistance, and huge numbers will end up
involved with substance abuse and crime. Those are just the facts.


It is things like this that advances the case for competition in the
school system. If there were more options you could actually have sex
ed in schools that was better targeted to the needs of the students.
The parents who do not want anything but abstinence to be taught,
probably have other problems with the curriculum and they could seek a
different school while the mainstream schools could teach more about
pregnancy avoidance which is what is needed in the places where unwed
birth is the norm. I would make those drugs and devices free to anyone
who thinks they need them. Again it is far cheaper than the
alternative.

[email protected] January 13th 16 05:07 PM

She's got quite a fan club
 
On Tue, 12 Jan 2016 18:45:48 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Halle Berry,
my old girlfriend,


Sarah will be crushed. We all thought she was the one you lusted
after.

John H.[_5_] January 13th 16 06:38 PM

She's got quite a fan club
 
On Wed, 13 Jan 2016 12:03:56 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 12 Jan 2016 17:17:09 -0500,

wrote:

On Tue, 12 Jan 2016 16:08:35 -0500, John H.
wrote:

I hadn't thought of abortions by race. After your post I looked to see that the rate
of abortiion for blacks is about five times that of whites. I was surprised.


===

I'm not. For various reasons there's a lot less awareness and use of
birth control. Even with higher rates of abortion there are still a
huge number of black out of wedlock children. One parent families
tend to not do very well on average. Statisically their prospects for
growing into educated, responsible adults are very poor. A huge
number will end up on public assistance, and huge numbers will end up
involved with substance abuse and crime. Those are just the facts.


It is things like this that advances the case for competition in the
school system. If there were more options you could actually have sex
ed in schools that was better targeted to the needs of the students.
The parents who do not want anything but abstinence to be taught,
probably have other problems with the curriculum and they could seek a
different school while the mainstream schools could teach more about
pregnancy avoidance which is what is needed in the places where unwed
birth is the norm. I would make those drugs and devices free to anyone
who thinks they need them. Again it is far cheaper than the
alternative.


I used an example of Washington DC, where about 80% of black babies are born to unwed
mothers. The DC public schools teach contraception as part of its sex ed curriculum.
What more targeting do they need?
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

Keyser Söze January 13th 16 06:49 PM

She's got quite a fan club
 
On 1/13/16 1:38 PM, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 13 Jan 2016 12:03:56 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 12 Jan 2016 17:17:09 -0500,

wrote:

On Tue, 12 Jan 2016 16:08:35 -0500, John H.
wrote:

I hadn't thought of abortions by race. After your post I looked to see that the rate
of abortiion for blacks is about five times that of whites. I was surprised.

===

I'm not. For various reasons there's a lot less awareness and use of
birth control. Even with higher rates of abortion there are still a
huge number of black out of wedlock children. One parent families
tend to not do very well on average. Statisically their prospects for
growing into educated, responsible adults are very poor. A huge
number will end up on public assistance, and huge numbers will end up
involved with substance abuse and crime. Those are just the facts.


It is things like this that advances the case for competition in the
school system. If there were more options you could actually have sex
ed in schools that was better targeted to the needs of the students.
The parents who do not want anything but abstinence to be taught,
probably have other problems with the curriculum and they could seek a
different school while the mainstream schools could teach more about
pregnancy avoidance which is what is needed in the places where unwed
birth is the norm. I would make those drugs and devices free to anyone
who thinks they need them. Again it is far cheaper than the
alternative.


I used an example of Washington DC, where about 80% of black babies are born to unwed
mothers. The DC public schools teach contraception as part of its sex ed curriculum.
What more targeting do they need?
--


Perhaps some moralizing lectures from a mean-spirited, racist asshole
like you might help, eh?



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