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Connecticut to Ban Gun Sales to Those on Federal Terrorism Lists
Connecticut to Ban Gun Sales to Those on Federal Terrorism Lists
With the mass shooting in California last week focusing attention on terrorism and guns, Gov. Dannel P. Malloy of Connecticut announced on Thursday that he would sign an executive order that would bar people on federal terrorism watch lists from buying firearms in the state. Mr. Malloy said Connecticut would become the first state in the nation to have such a measure. “Like all Americans, I have been horrified by the recent terrorist attacks in San Bernardino and Paris,” said Mr. Malloy, a Democrat. “This should be a wake-up call to all of us. This is a moment to seize in America — and today I’m here to say that we in Connecticut are seizing it.” Connecticut already has some of the strictest gun laws in the country, including measures enacted in 2013 after the massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown in 2012. In that attack, a gunman killed 20 schoolchildren and six staff members before killing himself. |
Connecticut to Ban Gun Sales to Those on Federal Terrorism Lists
On Thu, 10 Dec 2015 15:07:35 -0500, Keyser Sze wrote:
Connecticut to Ban Gun Sales to Those on Federal Terrorism Lists With the mass shooting in California last week focusing attention on terrorism and guns, Gov. Dannel P. Malloy of Connecticut announced on Thursday that he would sign an executive order that would bar people on federal terrorism watch lists from buying firearms in the state. Mr. Malloy said Connecticut would become the first state in the nation to have such a measure. Like all Americans, I have been horrified by the recent terrorist attacks in San Bernardino and Paris, said Mr. Malloy, a Democrat. This should be a wake-up call to all of us. This is a moment to seize in America and today Im here to say that we in Connecticut are seizing it. Connecticut already has some of the strictest gun laws in the country, including measures enacted in 2013 after the massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown in 2012. In that attack, a gunman killed 20 schoolchildren and six staff members before killing himself. He'll probably be stopped because of 'religious persecution'. -- Ban idiots, not guns! |
Connecticut to Ban Gun Sales to Those on Federal Terrorism Lists
On Thu, 10 Dec 2015 15:07:35 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote: Connecticut to Ban Gun Sales to Those on Federal Terrorism Lists With the mass shooting in California last week focusing attention on terrorism and guns, Gov. Dannel P. Malloy of Connecticut announced on Thursday that he would sign an executive order that would bar people on federal terrorism watch lists from buying firearms in the state. Mr. Malloy said Connecticut would become the first state in the nation to have such a measure. “Like all Americans, I have been horrified by the recent terrorist attacks in San Bernardino and Paris,” said Mr. Malloy, a Democrat. “This should be a wake-up call to all of us. This is a moment to seize in America — and today I’m here to say that we in Connecticut are seizing it.” Connecticut already has some of the strictest gun laws in the country, including measures enacted in 2013 after the massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown in 2012. In that attack, a gunman killed 20 schoolchildren and six staff members before killing himself. The only problem with that is these people were not on the list. The 2 guns that actually did most if not all of the shooting were illegally obtained from a 3d party (in a state without that "gunshow loophole") The gov also assumes he will have access to the terrorist watch list and that it will be de facto available to any FFL. All of this assumes the "watch list" is accurate, perhaps they should be working on that first. |
Connecticut to Ban Gun Sales to Those on Federal Terrorism Lists
On 12/10/2015 3:07 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
Connecticut to Ban Gun Sales to Those on Federal Terrorism Lists With the mass shooting in California last week focusing attention on terrorism and guns, Gov. Dannel P. Malloy of Connecticut announced on Thursday that he would sign an executive order that would bar people on federal terrorism watch lists from buying firearms in the state. Mr. Malloy said Connecticut would become the first state in the nation to have such a measure. “Like all Americans, I have been horrified by the recent terrorist attacks in San Bernardino and Paris,” said Mr. Malloy, a Democrat. “This should be a wake-up call to all of us. This is a moment to seize in America — and today I’m here to say that we in Connecticut are seizing it.” Connecticut already has some of the strictest gun laws in the country, including measures enacted in 2013 after the massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown in 2012. In that attack, a gunman killed 20 schoolchildren and six staff members before killing himself. Received the following "alert" yesterday from GOAL, a MA based gun ownership advocacy group. Seems that our Republican governor, Charlie Baker, has come out in support of MA Representative Lori Ehrich's bill to do away with due process for MA citizens who appear on one or more of the federal watch lists. Opponents claim: 1. There is zero statutory criteria or due process for inclusion on the lists. 2. These lists would be run by unelected officials with no oversight and no accountability. 3. Should your name wind up on the lists you will be virtually powerless to find out why you are on it, or to have it removed. 4. The government is not required to tell you why you are on the lists. 5. There is no due process, no right to a trial, nothing, you can wind up on the lists and lose your rights. Funny thing is that Edward Kennedy was on the "watch list". I must be clean. I had to have another background check done to get a license to drive the old fart van. |
Connecticut to Ban Gun Sales to Those on Federal Terrorism Lists
On 12/10/15 5:07 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/10/2015 3:07 PM, Keyser Söze wrote: Connecticut to Ban Gun Sales to Those on Federal Terrorism Lists With the mass shooting in California last week focusing attention on terrorism and guns, Gov. Dannel P. Malloy of Connecticut announced on Thursday that he would sign an executive order that would bar people on federal terrorism watch lists from buying firearms in the state. Mr. Malloy said Connecticut would become the first state in the nation to have such a measure. “Like all Americans, I have been horrified by the recent terrorist attacks in San Bernardino and Paris,” said Mr. Malloy, a Democrat. “This should be a wake-up call to all of us. This is a moment to seize in America — and today I’m here to say that we in Connecticut are seizing it.” Connecticut already has some of the strictest gun laws in the country, including measures enacted in 2013 after the massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown in 2012. In that attack, a gunman killed 20 schoolchildren and six staff members before killing himself. Received the following "alert" yesterday from GOAL, a MA based gun ownership advocacy group. Seems that our Republican governor, Charlie Baker, has come out in support of MA Representative Lori Ehrich's bill to do away with due process for MA citizens who appear on one or more of the federal watch lists. Opponents claim: 1. There is zero statutory criteria or due process for inclusion on the lists. 2. These lists would be run by unelected officials with no oversight and no accountability. 3. Should your name wind up on the lists you will be virtually powerless to find out why you are on it, or to have it removed. 4. The government is not required to tell you why you are on the lists. 5. There is no due process, no right to a trial, nothing, you can wind up on the lists and lose your rights. Funny thing is that Edward Kennedy was on the "watch list". I must be clean. I had to have another background check done to get a license to drive the old fart van. We all vouched for you, saying you were a future old fart. |
Connecticut to Ban Gun Sales to Those on Federal Terrorism Lists
On 12/10/2015 5:13 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 12/10/15 5:07 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 12/10/2015 3:07 PM, Keyser Söze wrote: Connecticut to Ban Gun Sales to Those on Federal Terrorism Lists With the mass shooting in California last week focusing attention on terrorism and guns, Gov. Dannel P. Malloy of Connecticut announced on Thursday that he would sign an executive order that would bar people on federal terrorism watch lists from buying firearms in the state. Mr. Malloy said Connecticut would become the first state in the nation to have such a measure. “Like all Americans, I have been horrified by the recent terrorist attacks in San Bernardino and Paris,” said Mr. Malloy, a Democrat. “This should be a wake-up call to all of us. This is a moment to seize in America — and today I’m here to say that we in Connecticut are seizing it.” Connecticut already has some of the strictest gun laws in the country, including measures enacted in 2013 after the massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown in 2012. In that attack, a gunman killed 20 schoolchildren and six staff members before killing himself. Received the following "alert" yesterday from GOAL, a MA based gun ownership advocacy group. Seems that our Republican governor, Charlie Baker, has come out in support of MA Representative Lori Ehrich's bill to do away with due process for MA citizens who appear on one or more of the federal watch lists. Opponents claim: 1. There is zero statutory criteria or due process for inclusion on the lists. 2. These lists would be run by unelected officials with no oversight and no accountability. 3. Should your name wind up on the lists you will be virtually powerless to find out why you are on it, or to have it removed. 4. The government is not required to tell you why you are on the lists. 5. There is no due process, no right to a trial, nothing, you can wind up on the lists and lose your rights. Funny thing is that Edward Kennedy was on the "watch list". I must be clean. I had to have another background check done to get a license to drive the old fart van. We all vouched for you, saying you were a future old fart. Shook me up the other day when I realized I am older than many of the people I cart around. |
Connecticut to Ban Gun Sales to Those on Federal Terrorism Lists
On Thu, 10 Dec 2015 17:07:59 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: On 12/10/2015 3:07 PM, Keyser Söze wrote: Connecticut to Ban Gun Sales to Those on Federal Terrorism Lists With the mass shooting in California last week focusing attention on terrorism and guns, Gov. Dannel P. Malloy of Connecticut announced on Thursday that he would sign an executive order that would bar people on federal terrorism watch lists from buying firearms in the state. Mr. Malloy said Connecticut would become the first state in the nation to have such a measure. “Like all Americans, I have been horrified by the recent terrorist attacks in San Bernardino and Paris,” said Mr. Malloy, a Democrat. “This should be a wake-up call to all of us. This is a moment to seize in America — and today I’m here to say that we in Connecticut are seizing it.” Connecticut already has some of the strictest gun laws in the country, including measures enacted in 2013 after the massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown in 2012. In that attack, a gunman killed 20 schoolchildren and six staff members before killing himself. Received the following "alert" yesterday from GOAL, a MA based gun ownership advocacy group. Seems that our Republican governor, Charlie Baker, has come out in support of MA Representative Lori Ehrich's bill to do away with due process for MA citizens who appear on one or more of the federal watch lists. Opponents claim: 1. There is zero statutory criteria or due process for inclusion on the lists. 2. These lists would be run by unelected officials with no oversight and no accountability. 3. Should your name wind up on the lists you will be virtually powerless to find out why you are on it, or to have it removed. 4. The government is not required to tell you why you are on the lists. 5. There is no due process, no right to a trial, nothing, you can wind up on the lists and lose your rights. Funny thing is that Edward Kennedy was on the "watch list". I must be clean. I had to have another background check done to get a license to drive the old fart van. A standard "background check" might not pop a watch list entry. Buying a plane ticket might be a better test. This post does point out my only concern about this proposed law. The lists are flawed and there is no easy way to fix the errors. It is not unlike the lists of dead people that get generated by the government and can't seem to be fixed. |
Connecticut to Ban Gun Sales to Those on Federal Terrorism Lists
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Connecticut to Ban Gun Sales to Those on Federal Terrorism Lists
On Thu, 10 Dec 2015 19:59:32 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: Speaking of buying a plane ticket ... has this been resolved? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/states-need-passports-to-fly-domestic_5602ccc1e4b08820d91b0e47 === Heh, that's going to be interesting. "Flying is a right, not a privilege." Really? |
Connecticut to Ban Gun Sales to Those on Federal Terrorism Lists
On Thu, 10 Dec 2015 17:07:59 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 12/10/2015 3:07 PM, Keyser Sze wrote: Connecticut to Ban Gun Sales to Those on Federal Terrorism Lists With the mass shooting in California last week focusing attention on terrorism and guns, Gov. Dannel P. Malloy of Connecticut announced on Thursday that he would sign an executive order that would bar people on federal terrorism watch lists from buying firearms in the state. Mr. Malloy said Connecticut would become the first state in the nation to have such a measure. Like all Americans, I have been horrified by the recent terrorist attacks in San Bernardino and Paris, said Mr. Malloy, a Democrat. This should be a wake-up call to all of us. This is a moment to seize in America and today Im here to say that we in Connecticut are seizing it. Connecticut already has some of the strictest gun laws in the country, including measures enacted in 2013 after the massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown in 2012. In that attack, a gunman killed 20 schoolchildren and six staff members before killing himself. Received the following "alert" yesterday from GOAL, a MA based gun ownership advocacy group. Seems that our Republican governor, Charlie Baker, has come out in support of MA Representative Lori Ehrich's bill to do away with due process for MA citizens who appear on one or more of the federal watch lists. Opponents claim: 1. There is zero statutory criteria or due process for inclusion on the lists. 2. These lists would be run by unelected officials with no oversight and no accountability. 3. Should your name wind up on the lists you will be virtually powerless to find out why you are on it, or to have it removed. 4. The government is not required to tell you why you are on the lists. 5. There is no due process, no right to a trial, nothing, you can wind up on the lists and lose your rights. Funny thing is that Edward Kennedy was on the "watch list". I must be clean. I had to have another background check done to get a license to drive the old fart van. Ain't socialism grand? Sounds like something (OMG - here it comes) Hitler would do early on. -- Ban idiots, not guns! |
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