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Is Paris/Isis Over?
On 11/26/15 9:30 AM, Tim wrote:
On Thursday, November 26, 2015 at 8:11:54 AM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote: Tim wrote: On Thursday, November 26, 2015 at 7:42:05 AM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/26/2015 2:27 AM, RGrew176 wrote: Keyser Söze;1049568 Wrote: On 11/25/15 12:00 PM, wrote:- On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 10:03:39 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: - On 11/25/15 7:41 AM, John H. wrote:- On Tue, 24 Nov 2015 18:08:32 -0600, Boating All Out wrote: Will coverage of cop the killing a teen in Chicago be another 24/7 story? Can they manage two 24/7 stories? We'll see. The video definitely makes the cop appear in the wrong. But, a first degree murder charge has been filed. What more do the marchers want. Is this an excuse to begin looting and burning in Chicago? --- You probably didn't understand the civil rights demonstrations and marches of the 1960s, either.- Those demonstrations were because they felt their grievances were not being heard. Charging an on duty cop with murder 1 is far from that. It is clear that the Chicago DA was doing more than a reasonable reaction. He better add murder 2 and manslaughter as lesser included charges or you might have a Zimmerman moment. It is going to be hard to make a murder 1 case although murder 2 is possible and manslaughter is reasonable. Without a death penalty, there is really not a significant difference in sentencing. In most states you can still do "life" for murder 2. As prisons get more crowded "life" really means "until you get so old and sick that we can't afford to keep you" anyway. - It took 13 months for an indictment, and I think that only came about because a journalist filed an FOIA and the tapes had to be released. Thirteen months for an indictment? That's bull****, when you have tapes in hand. Might be more indictments. Apparently there was a coverup and part of that involved cop erasures of video tapes from nearby security cameras. The tape they have is going to be near impossible to refute. Emptying your magazine into a guy who you've already shot and who is on the ground...that's going to be tough to defend, eh? I wonder if the cop will cop a plea. Agreed, with what is on the tape an indictment should have come within 60 days if even that long. Chicago Mayor: Rahm Emanuel .... Democrat Superintendent of Police: Garry McCarthy ... appointed by Rahm Emanuel State Attorney - Cook County: Anita Alvarez ... Democrat Wow...you've really gone over to the dark side. 😀 -- Sent from my iPhone 6+ Harry, Cook Co/ Chicago really is an anti-republican paradise. You should be proud of the place... I doubt the mayor delayed the indictment for a year. Never said he did. Hard to blame anyone with a brain for being anti republican, considering that party's presidential wannabes. What's that got to do with Rahm, or the others Richaard listed, besides nothing? -- Sent from my iPhone 6+ You're the one who said Chicago was an "anti-Republican paradise." I'm merely giving the reason why. |
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On 11/26/2015 10:00 AM, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 11:33:11 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote: On 11/25/2015 10:25 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 11/25/15 10:15 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/25/2015 10:13 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 11/25/15 10:10 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/25/2015 10:03 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 11/25/15 7:41 AM, John H. wrote: On Tue, 24 Nov 2015 18:08:32 -0600, Boating All Out wrote: Will coverage of cop the killing a teen in Chicago be another 24/7 story? Can they manage two 24/7 stories? We'll see. The video definitely makes the cop appear in the wrong. But, a first degree murder charge has been filed. What more do the marchers want. Is this an excuse to begin looting and burning in Chicago? -- You probably didn't understand the civil rights demonstrations and marches of the 1960s, either. Point to ponder: In the 400 days since this cop committed this obvious murder, 396 blacks were shot and killed by another black in the Chicago area. Do they not understand the civil rights demonstrations and marches of the 1960s or that Black Lives Matter either? You don't "get it," either, eh? Yes Harry, I "get it". Probably better than you do. I don't think so. The 1960's demonstrations/marches were mostly against institutional racism and violence. The Chicago demonstration, such as it was, was also against institutional racism and violence. Police murder of blacks seems to be endemic these days. Institutional violence. We have, what, 30,000+ "deaths by gun" and mostly involving non-police individuals in this country each year. Peculiarly 'Merican, eh? How many by suicide? How many black on black? How many while a crime was being committed? How many with drug involvement? How many accidental? How many by illegal immigrants? If you have a point to make, make it. Otherwise admit that you are just parroting a statistic without having a clue as to what it implies. Am I right, O' clueless one? That one's probably way too hard for Krause to answer. -- Ban idiots, not guns! He's afraid of what I might say in response to his answer. The questions asked are easily answered with a little digging. |
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On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 07:27:45 +0000, RGrew176
wrote: Keyser Söze;1049568 Wrote: On 11/25/15 12:00 PM, wrote:- On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 10:03:39 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: - On 11/25/15 7:41 AM, John H. wrote:- On Tue, 24 Nov 2015 18:08:32 -0600, Boating All Out wrote: Will coverage of cop the killing a teen in Chicago be another 24/7 story? Can they manage two 24/7 stories? We'll see. The video definitely makes the cop appear in the wrong. But, a first degree murder charge has been filed. What more do the marchers want. Is this an excuse to begin looting and burning in Chicago? --- You probably didn't understand the civil rights demonstrations and marches of the 1960s, either.- Those demonstrations were because they felt their grievances were not being heard. Charging an on duty cop with murder 1 is far from that. It is clear that the Chicago DA was doing more than a reasonable reaction. He better add murder 2 and manslaughter as lesser included charges or you might have a Zimmerman moment. It is going to be hard to make a murder 1 case although murder 2 is possible and manslaughter is reasonable. Without a death penalty, there is really not a significant difference in sentencing. In most states you can still do "life" for murder 2. As prisons get more crowded "life" really means "until you get so old and sick that we can't afford to keep you" anyway. - It took 13 months for an indictment, and I think that only came about because a journalist filed an FOIA and the tapes had to be released. Thirteen months for an indictment? That's bull****, when you have tapes in hand. Might be more indictments. Apparently there was a coverup and part of that involved cop erasures of video tapes from nearby security cameras. The tape they have is going to be near impossible to refute. Emptying your magazine into a guy who you've already shot and who is on the ground...that's going to be tough to defend, eh? I wonder if the cop will cop a plea. Agreed, with what is on the tape an indictment should have come within 60 days if even that long. If they are really going for a murder 1 charge, they needed to get their ducks in a row and a big part of that was dealing with the union. This is Chicago, where they are scared of the janitor's union, the police union scares the hell out of them. Life in prison is a long time, this guy wasn't going anywhere. There is plenty of punishment left for him ... if he doesn't eat his gun. Maybe that is what they were waiting for. |
Is Paris/Isis Over?
On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 08:42:03 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: Chicago Mayor: Rahm Emanuel .... Democrat Superintendent of Police: Garry McCarthy ... appointed by Rahm Emanuel State Attorney - Cook County: Anita Alvarez ... Democrat Wow...you've really gone over to the dark side. ? His point is, what is everyone protesting? There is going to be a trial (or a plea), the top count is draconian and the government is democratic so they can't be racist. (You limit that term to republicans.) Looking at the tape, the guy may actually have an insanity defense in the offing. Just the fact that he kept shooting long after the guy was down and was stopped by the other cops when he tried to reload makes it sound like he had gone to that other place. Expect to see some kind of "Chicago cop syndrome" if this actually makes it to trial. I expect a plea and that may be what took so long, trying to get that. |
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On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 09:26:54 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote: It would not surprise me to learn of chicanery among some higher ups in the police department. Police corruption is endemic nationwide. Indictments come from the DA, not the police. That is a political office. The police commissioner serves at the pleasure of the Mayor. The only real power in the police department comes from the union and you are silent about that. |
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On 11/26/15 10:30 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 07:27:45 +0000, RGrew176 wrote: Keyser Söze;1049568 Wrote: On 11/25/15 12:00 PM, wrote:- On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 10:03:39 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: - On 11/25/15 7:41 AM, John H. wrote:- On Tue, 24 Nov 2015 18:08:32 -0600, Boating All Out wrote: Will coverage of cop the killing a teen in Chicago be another 24/7 story? Can they manage two 24/7 stories? We'll see. The video definitely makes the cop appear in the wrong. But, a first degree murder charge has been filed. What more do the marchers want. Is this an excuse to begin looting and burning in Chicago? --- You probably didn't understand the civil rights demonstrations and marches of the 1960s, either.- Those demonstrations were because they felt their grievances were not being heard. Charging an on duty cop with murder 1 is far from that. It is clear that the Chicago DA was doing more than a reasonable reaction. He better add murder 2 and manslaughter as lesser included charges or you might have a Zimmerman moment. It is going to be hard to make a murder 1 case although murder 2 is possible and manslaughter is reasonable. Without a death penalty, there is really not a significant difference in sentencing. In most states you can still do "life" for murder 2. As prisons get more crowded "life" really means "until you get so old and sick that we can't afford to keep you" anyway. - It took 13 months for an indictment, and I think that only came about because a journalist filed an FOIA and the tapes had to be released. Thirteen months for an indictment? That's bull****, when you have tapes in hand. Might be more indictments. Apparently there was a coverup and part of that involved cop erasures of video tapes from nearby security cameras. The tape they have is going to be near impossible to refute. Emptying your magazine into a guy who you've already shot and who is on the ground...that's going to be tough to defend, eh? I wonder if the cop will cop a plea. Agreed, with what is on the tape an indictment should have come within 60 days if even that long. If they are really going for a murder 1 charge, they needed to get their ducks in a row and a big part of that was dealing with the union. This is Chicago, where they are scared of the janitor's union, the police union scares the hell out of them. Life in prison is a long time, this guy wasn't going anywhere. There is plenty of punishment left for him ... if he doesn't eat his gun. Maybe that is what they were waiting for. Do you have anything other than your hatred of unions to support your claim of "dealing with the union"? I mean something real. |
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On 11/26/2015 11:37 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 11/26/15 10:42 AM, wrote: On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 08:42:03 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: Chicago Mayor: Rahm Emanuel .... Democrat Superintendent of Police: Garry McCarthy ... appointed by Rahm Emanuel State Attorney - Cook County: Anita Alvarez ... Democrat Wow...you've really gone over to the dark side. ? His point is, what is everyone protesting? You mean, other than yet another cop killing someone who shouldn't have been killed? Bad cop. No doubt. Bound to be a few considering there are over a million in the USA. Who knows the reasons why? I can think of a few. But why 14 months? |
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Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/26/2015 11:37 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 11/26/15 10:42 AM, wrote: On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 08:42:03 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: Chicago Mayor: Rahm Emanuel .... Democrat Superintendent of Police: Garry McCarthy ... appointed by Rahm Emanuel State Attorney - Cook County: Anita Alvarez ... Democrat Wow...you've really gone over to the dark side. ? His point is, what is everyone protesting? You mean, other than yet another cop killing someone who shouldn't have been killed? Bad cop. No doubt. Bound to be a few considering there are over a million in the USA. Who knows the reasons why? I can think of a few. But why 14 months? You can guess but that doesn't mean you know. -- Sent from my iPhone 6+ |
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On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 11:36:04 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote: On 11/26/15 10:30 AM, wrote: On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 07:27:45 +0000, RGrew176 wrote: Keyser Söze;1049568 Wrote: On 11/25/15 12:00 PM, wrote:- On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 10:03:39 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: - On 11/25/15 7:41 AM, John H. wrote:- On Tue, 24 Nov 2015 18:08:32 -0600, Boating All Out wrote: Will coverage of cop the killing a teen in Chicago be another 24/7 story? Can they manage two 24/7 stories? We'll see. The video definitely makes the cop appear in the wrong. But, a first degree murder charge has been filed. What more do the marchers want. Is this an excuse to begin looting and burning in Chicago? --- You probably didn't understand the civil rights demonstrations and marches of the 1960s, either.- Those demonstrations were because they felt their grievances were not being heard. Charging an on duty cop with murder 1 is far from that. It is clear that the Chicago DA was doing more than a reasonable reaction. He better add murder 2 and manslaughter as lesser included charges or you might have a Zimmerman moment. It is going to be hard to make a murder 1 case although murder 2 is possible and manslaughter is reasonable. Without a death penalty, there is really not a significant difference in sentencing. In most states you can still do "life" for murder 2. As prisons get more crowded "life" really means "until you get so old and sick that we can't afford to keep you" anyway. - It took 13 months for an indictment, and I think that only came about because a journalist filed an FOIA and the tapes had to be released. Thirteen months for an indictment? That's bull****, when you have tapes in hand. Might be more indictments. Apparently there was a coverup and part of that involved cop erasures of video tapes from nearby security cameras. The tape they have is going to be near impossible to refute. Emptying your magazine into a guy who you've already shot and who is on the ground...that's going to be tough to defend, eh? I wonder if the cop will cop a plea. Agreed, with what is on the tape an indictment should have come within 60 days if even that long. If they are really going for a murder 1 charge, they needed to get their ducks in a row and a big part of that was dealing with the union. This is Chicago, where they are scared of the janitor's union, the police union scares the hell out of them. Life in prison is a long time, this guy wasn't going anywhere. There is plenty of punishment left for him ... if he doesn't eat his gun. Maybe that is what they were waiting for. Do you have anything other than your hatred of unions to support your claim of "dealing with the union"? I mean something real. If you don't think any legal issue with a cop will not involve the union, you are in denial. The union is probably paying for his attorney. |
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On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 11:37:21 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote: On 11/26/15 10:42 AM, wrote: On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 08:42:03 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: Chicago Mayor: Rahm Emanuel .... Democrat Superintendent of Police: Garry McCarthy ... appointed by Rahm Emanuel State Attorney - Cook County: Anita Alvarez ... Democrat Wow...you've really gone over to the dark side. ? His point is, what is everyone protesting? You mean, other than yet another cop killing someone who shouldn't have been killed? He is a murder who killed a black guy. It happens at least once a day there. I would understand the protest if he wasn't charged but they are bringing a capital case against him. What do they want? |
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On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 11:44:14 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: On 11/26/2015 11:37 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 11/26/15 10:42 AM, wrote: On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 08:42:03 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: Chicago Mayor: Rahm Emanuel .... Democrat Superintendent of Police: Garry McCarthy ... appointed by Rahm Emanuel State Attorney - Cook County: Anita Alvarez ... Democrat Wow...you've really gone over to the dark side. ? His point is, what is everyone protesting? You mean, other than yet another cop killing someone who shouldn't have been killed? Bad cop. No doubt. Bound to be a few considering there are over a million in the USA. Who knows the reasons why? I can think of a few. But why 14 months? That is an interesting question but I bet there was a whole lot of negotiating going on and a pretty extensive investigation for them to bring this charge ... assuming they really want it to stick. I still say he will plead insanity and come up with some kind of Chicago cop syndrome. Maybe that is what they were trying to blunt. They really want this to go away quietly. Nothing would be worse than a media hyped trial that the DA loses. |
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On 11/26/15 1:21 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 11:36:04 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 11/26/15 10:30 AM, wrote: On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 07:27:45 +0000, RGrew176 wrote: Keyser Söze;1049568 Wrote: On 11/25/15 12:00 PM, wrote:- On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 10:03:39 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: - On 11/25/15 7:41 AM, John H. wrote:- On Tue, 24 Nov 2015 18:08:32 -0600, Boating All Out wrote: Will coverage of cop the killing a teen in Chicago be another 24/7 story? Can they manage two 24/7 stories? We'll see. The video definitely makes the cop appear in the wrong. But, a first degree murder charge has been filed. What more do the marchers want. Is this an excuse to begin looting and burning in Chicago? --- You probably didn't understand the civil rights demonstrations and marches of the 1960s, either.- Those demonstrations were because they felt their grievances were not being heard. Charging an on duty cop with murder 1 is far from that. It is clear that the Chicago DA was doing more than a reasonable reaction. He better add murder 2 and manslaughter as lesser included charges or you might have a Zimmerman moment. It is going to be hard to make a murder 1 case although murder 2 is possible and manslaughter is reasonable. Without a death penalty, there is really not a significant difference in sentencing. In most states you can still do "life" for murder 2. As prisons get more crowded "life" really means "until you get so old and sick that we can't afford to keep you" anyway. - It took 13 months for an indictment, and I think that only came about because a journalist filed an FOIA and the tapes had to be released. Thirteen months for an indictment? That's bull****, when you have tapes in hand. Might be more indictments. Apparently there was a coverup and part of that involved cop erasures of video tapes from nearby security cameras. The tape they have is going to be near impossible to refute. Emptying your magazine into a guy who you've already shot and who is on the ground...that's going to be tough to defend, eh? I wonder if the cop will cop a plea. Agreed, with what is on the tape an indictment should have come within 60 days if even that long. If they are really going for a murder 1 charge, they needed to get their ducks in a row and a big part of that was dealing with the union. This is Chicago, where they are scared of the janitor's union, the police union scares the hell out of them. Life in prison is a long time, this guy wasn't going anywhere. There is plenty of punishment left for him ... if he doesn't eat his gun. Maybe that is what they were waiting for. Do you have anything other than your hatred of unions to support your claim of "dealing with the union"? I mean something real. If you don't think any legal issue with a cop will not involve the union, you are in denial. The union is probably paying for his attorney. Well, of course. But your implications go far beyond the union providing a lawyer or money for one, and support for their member. That's what unions do. I would expect the union's lawyer to provide a strong defense, as any defense lawyer would. |
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On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 13:40:12 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote: On 11/26/15 1:21 PM, wrote: On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 11:36:04 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 11/26/15 10:30 AM, wrote: On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 07:27:45 +0000, RGrew176 wrote: Keyser Söze;1049568 Wrote: On 11/25/15 12:00 PM, wrote:- On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 10:03:39 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: - On 11/25/15 7:41 AM, John H. wrote:- On Tue, 24 Nov 2015 18:08:32 -0600, Boating All Out wrote: Will coverage of cop the killing a teen in Chicago be another 24/7 story? Can they manage two 24/7 stories? We'll see. The video definitely makes the cop appear in the wrong. But, a first degree murder charge has been filed. What more do the marchers want. Is this an excuse to begin looting and burning in Chicago? --- You probably didn't understand the civil rights demonstrations and marches of the 1960s, either.- Those demonstrations were because they felt their grievances were not being heard. Charging an on duty cop with murder 1 is far from that. It is clear that the Chicago DA was doing more than a reasonable reaction. He better add murder 2 and manslaughter as lesser included charges or you might have a Zimmerman moment. It is going to be hard to make a murder 1 case although murder 2 is possible and manslaughter is reasonable. Without a death penalty, there is really not a significant difference in sentencing. In most states you can still do "life" for murder 2. As prisons get more crowded "life" really means "until you get so old and sick that we can't afford to keep you" anyway. - It took 13 months for an indictment, and I think that only came about because a journalist filed an FOIA and the tapes had to be released. Thirteen months for an indictment? That's bull****, when you have tapes in hand. Might be more indictments. Apparently there was a coverup and part of that involved cop erasures of video tapes from nearby security cameras. The tape they have is going to be near impossible to refute. Emptying your magazine into a guy who you've already shot and who is on the ground...that's going to be tough to defend, eh? I wonder if the cop will cop a plea. Agreed, with what is on the tape an indictment should have come within 60 days if even that long. If they are really going for a murder 1 charge, they needed to get their ducks in a row and a big part of that was dealing with the union. This is Chicago, where they are scared of the janitor's union, the police union scares the hell out of them. Life in prison is a long time, this guy wasn't going anywhere. There is plenty of punishment left for him ... if he doesn't eat his gun. Maybe that is what they were waiting for. Do you have anything other than your hatred of unions to support your claim of "dealing with the union"? I mean something real. If you don't think any legal issue with a cop will not involve the union, you are in denial. The union is probably paying for his attorney. Well, of course. But your implications go far beyond the union providing a lawyer or money for one, and support for their member. That's what unions do. I would expect the union's lawyer to provide a strong defense, as any defense lawyer would. That is plenty if you are trying to delay the proceedings. The worst case is if the union actively "protested" the charges and had a little case of "blue flu". I think this was a bad shoot and they should fry this guy but I also believe they do not want to rush it, make some technical errors and get the thing thrown out. Nobody wants a surprise, like finding out this guy was an undisclosed schizophrenic or manic depressive, given a government gun and turned loose on the public. |
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On 11/26/15 3:19 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 13:40:12 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 11/26/15 1:21 PM, wrote: On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 11:36:04 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 11/26/15 10:30 AM, wrote: On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 07:27:45 +0000, RGrew176 wrote: Keyser Söze;1049568 Wrote: On 11/25/15 12:00 PM, wrote:- On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 10:03:39 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: - On 11/25/15 7:41 AM, John H. wrote:- On Tue, 24 Nov 2015 18:08:32 -0600, Boating All Out wrote: Will coverage of cop the killing a teen in Chicago be another 24/7 story? Can they manage two 24/7 stories? We'll see. The video definitely makes the cop appear in the wrong. But, a first degree murder charge has been filed. What more do the marchers want. Is this an excuse to begin looting and burning in Chicago? --- You probably didn't understand the civil rights demonstrations and marches of the 1960s, either.- Those demonstrations were because they felt their grievances were not being heard. Charging an on duty cop with murder 1 is far from that. It is clear that the Chicago DA was doing more than a reasonable reaction. He better add murder 2 and manslaughter as lesser included charges or you might have a Zimmerman moment. It is going to be hard to make a murder 1 case although murder 2 is possible and manslaughter is reasonable. Without a death penalty, there is really not a significant difference in sentencing. In most states you can still do "life" for murder 2. As prisons get more crowded "life" really means "until you get so old and sick that we can't afford to keep you" anyway. - It took 13 months for an indictment, and I think that only came about because a journalist filed an FOIA and the tapes had to be released. Thirteen months for an indictment? That's bull****, when you have tapes in hand. Might be more indictments. Apparently there was a coverup and part of that involved cop erasures of video tapes from nearby security cameras. The tape they have is going to be near impossible to refute. Emptying your magazine into a guy who you've already shot and who is on the ground...that's going to be tough to defend, eh? I wonder if the cop will cop a plea. Agreed, with what is on the tape an indictment should have come within 60 days if even that long. If they are really going for a murder 1 charge, they needed to get their ducks in a row and a big part of that was dealing with the union. This is Chicago, where they are scared of the janitor's union, the police union scares the hell out of them. Life in prison is a long time, this guy wasn't going anywhere. There is plenty of punishment left for him ... if he doesn't eat his gun. Maybe that is what they were waiting for. Do you have anything other than your hatred of unions to support your claim of "dealing with the union"? I mean something real. If you don't think any legal issue with a cop will not involve the union, you are in denial. The union is probably paying for his attorney. Well, of course. But your implications go far beyond the union providing a lawyer or money for one, and support for their member. That's what unions do. I would expect the union's lawyer to provide a strong defense, as any defense lawyer would. That is plenty if you are trying to delay the proceedings. The worst case is if the union actively "protested" the charges and had a little case of "blue flu". I think this was a bad shoot and they should fry this guy but I also believe they do not want to rush it, make some technical errors and get the thing thrown out. Nobody wants a surprise, like finding out this guy was an undisclosed schizophrenic or manic depressive, given a government gun and turned loose on the public. The union can do whatever it wishes to do, within the requirements of law. The first year I worked for the NEA, I took a number of teachers unions out on strike at their request. It was illegal, but the penalty at that time was simply to lose two days pay for each day on strike. It was about the only tool the teachers had to force the administrators to negotiate for a new contract. It was an effective tool. The teachers were not looking for anything massive, but the law said there had to be good faith negotiations...and the strikes helped make that happen. Like many righties, you think capital/management is more important than labor. I don't. |
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On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 16:12:53 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote: The teachers were not looking for anything massive, but the law said there had to be good faith negotiations...and the strikes helped make that happen. === Unions willing to break the law are guilty of extortion. Teachers work hard for their money but salaries, and paticularly benefits, have gotten out of line with private industry. This will cause a major crisis at some point and force many local school districts into bankruptcy. |
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On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 16:12:53 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote: On 11/26/15 3:19 PM, wrote: Well, of course. But your implications go far beyond the union providing a lawyer or money for one, and support for their member. That's what unions do. I would expect the union's lawyer to provide a strong defense, as any defense lawyer would. That is plenty if you are trying to delay the proceedings. The worst case is if the union actively "protested" the charges and had a little case of "blue flu". I think this was a bad shoot and they should fry this guy but I also believe they do not want to rush it, make some technical errors and get the thing thrown out. Nobody wants a surprise, like finding out this guy was an undisclosed schizophrenic or manic depressive, given a government gun and turned loose on the public. The union can do whatever it wishes to do, within the requirements of law. The first year I worked for the NEA, I took a number of teachers unions out on strike at their request. It was illegal, but the penalty at that time was simply to lose two days pay for each day on strike. It was about the only tool the teachers had to force the administrators to negotiate for a new contract. It was an effective tool. The teachers were not looking for anything massive, but the law said there had to be good faith negotiations...and the strikes helped make that happen. Like many righties, you think capital/management is more important than labor. I don't. So now you are saying the union might have some clout in this investigation. Certainly public sector unions are usually barred from striking but you say you defied that law and feel justified in doing it. You just made my case. I am sure there are a significant number of Chicago cops who support their brother, particularly the active union members. The lawyer is on TV right now saying their position is he was in fear for his life. The last thing Chicago needs in this crime wave is the cops refusing to take calls in black neighborhoods because they think they will be prosecuted if things go bad. |
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Is Paris/Isis Over?
On 11/26/15 6:35 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 16:12:53 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 11/26/15 3:19 PM, wrote: Well, of course. But your implications go far beyond the union providing a lawyer or money for one, and support for their member. That's what unions do. I would expect the union's lawyer to provide a strong defense, as any defense lawyer would. That is plenty if you are trying to delay the proceedings. The worst case is if the union actively "protested" the charges and had a little case of "blue flu". I think this was a bad shoot and they should fry this guy but I also believe they do not want to rush it, make some technical errors and get the thing thrown out. Nobody wants a surprise, like finding out this guy was an undisclosed schizophrenic or manic depressive, given a government gun and turned loose on the public. The union can do whatever it wishes to do, within the requirements of law. The first year I worked for the NEA, I took a number of teachers unions out on strike at their request. It was illegal, but the penalty at that time was simply to lose two days pay for each day on strike. It was about the only tool the teachers had to force the administrators to negotiate for a new contract. It was an effective tool. The teachers were not looking for anything massive, but the law said there had to be good faith negotiations...and the strikes helped make that happen. Like many righties, you think capital/management is more important than labor. I don't. So now you are saying the union might have some clout in this investigation. Certainly public sector unions are usually barred from striking but you say you defied that law and feel justified in doing it. You just made my case. I am sure there are a significant number of Chicago cops who support their brother, particularly the active union members. The lawyer is on TV right now saying their position is he was in fear for his life. The last thing Chicago needs in this crime wave is the cops refusing to take calls in black neighborhoods because they think they will be prosecuted if things go bad. No, I did not say the union had "clout" in the investigation. |
Is Paris/Isis Over?
On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 18:48:32 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote: On 11/26/15 6:35 PM, wrote: On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 16:12:53 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 11/26/15 3:19 PM, wrote: Well, of course. But your implications go far beyond the union providing a lawyer or money for one, and support for their member. That's what unions do. I would expect the union's lawyer to provide a strong defense, as any defense lawyer would. That is plenty if you are trying to delay the proceedings. The worst case is if the union actively "protested" the charges and had a little case of "blue flu". I think this was a bad shoot and they should fry this guy but I also believe they do not want to rush it, make some technical errors and get the thing thrown out. Nobody wants a surprise, like finding out this guy was an undisclosed schizophrenic or manic depressive, given a government gun and turned loose on the public. The union can do whatever it wishes to do, within the requirements of law. The first year I worked for the NEA, I took a number of teachers unions out on strike at their request. It was illegal, but the penalty at that time was simply to lose two days pay for each day on strike. It was about the only tool the teachers had to force the administrators to negotiate for a new contract. It was an effective tool. The teachers were not looking for anything massive, but the law said there had to be good faith negotiations...and the strikes helped make that happen. Like many righties, you think capital/management is more important than labor. I don't. So now you are saying the union might have some clout in this investigation. Certainly public sector unions are usually barred from striking but you say you defied that law and feel justified in doing it. You just made my case. I am sure there are a significant number of Chicago cops who support their brother, particularly the active union members. The lawyer is on TV right now saying their position is he was in fear for his life. The last thing Chicago needs in this crime wave is the cops refusing to take calls in black neighborhoods because they think they will be prosecuted if things go bad. No, I did not say the union had "clout" in the investigation. You made it very clear that they did when you justified illegal strikes and explained how effective they can be. If the DA is bringing a capital case against a cop for an on duty shooting, he better make sure everyone is on board. |
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On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 09:26:54 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/26/2015 8:42 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/26/2015 2:27 AM, RGrew176 wrote: Keyser Söze;1049568 Wrote: On 11/25/15 12:00 PM, wrote:- On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 10:03:39 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: - On 11/25/15 7:41 AM, John H. wrote:- On Tue, 24 Nov 2015 18:08:32 -0600, Boating All Out wrote: Will coverage of cop the killing a teen in Chicago be another 24/7 story? Can they manage two 24/7 stories? We'll see. The video definitely makes the cop appear in the wrong. But, a first degree murder charge has been filed. What more do the marchers want. Is this an excuse to begin looting and burning in Chicago? --- You probably didn't understand the civil rights demonstrations and marches of the 1960s, either.- Those demonstrations were because they felt their grievances were not being heard. Charging an on duty cop with murder 1 is far from that. It is clear that the Chicago DA was doing more than a reasonable reaction. He better add murder 2 and manslaughter as lesser included charges or you might have a Zimmerman moment. It is going to be hard to make a murder 1 case although murder 2 is possible and manslaughter is reasonable. Without a death penalty, there is really not a significant difference in sentencing. In most states you can still do "life" for murder 2. As prisons get more crowded "life" really means "until you get so old and sick that we can't afford to keep you" anyway. - It took 13 months for an indictment, and I think that only came about because a journalist filed an FOIA and the tapes had to be released. Thirteen months for an indictment? That's bull****, when you have tapes in hand. Might be more indictments. Apparently there was a coverup and part of that involved cop erasures of video tapes from nearby security cameras. The tape they have is going to be near impossible to refute. Emptying your magazine into a guy who you've already shot and who is on the ground...that's going to be tough to defend, eh? I wonder if the cop will cop a plea. Agreed, with what is on the tape an indictment should have come within 60 days if even that long. Chicago Mayor: Rahm Emanuel .... Democrat Superintendent of Police: Garry McCarthy ... appointed by Rahm Emanuel State Attorney - Cook County: Anita Alvarez ... Democrat Wow...you've really gone over to the dark side. ? Not so. Just being "fair and balanced". Do you not think there was a 14 month cover up? If there *was* a cover up, by whom? It would not surprise me to learn of chicanery among some higher ups in the police department. Police corruption is endemic nationwide. And who selects the 'higher ups' in the police department, Krause? -- Ban idiots, not guns! |
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On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 10:12:37 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 11/26/2015 10:00 AM, John H. wrote: On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 11:33:11 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote: On 11/25/2015 10:25 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 11/25/15 10:15 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/25/2015 10:13 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 11/25/15 10:10 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/25/2015 10:03 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 11/25/15 7:41 AM, John H. wrote: On Tue, 24 Nov 2015 18:08:32 -0600, Boating All Out wrote: Will coverage of cop the killing a teen in Chicago be another 24/7 story? Can they manage two 24/7 stories? We'll see. The video definitely makes the cop appear in the wrong. But, a first degree murder charge has been filed. What more do the marchers want. Is this an excuse to begin looting and burning in Chicago? -- You probably didn't understand the civil rights demonstrations and marches of the 1960s, either. Point to ponder: In the 400 days since this cop committed this obvious murder, 396 blacks were shot and killed by another black in the Chicago area. Do they not understand the civil rights demonstrations and marches of the 1960s or that Black Lives Matter either? You don't "get it," either, eh? Yes Harry, I "get it". Probably better than you do. I don't think so. The 1960's demonstrations/marches were mostly against institutional racism and violence. The Chicago demonstration, such as it was, was also against institutional racism and violence. Police murder of blacks seems to be endemic these days. Institutional violence. We have, what, 30,000+ "deaths by gun" and mostly involving non-police individuals in this country each year. Peculiarly 'Merican, eh? How many by suicide? How many black on black? How many while a crime was being committed? How many with drug involvement? How many accidental? How many by illegal immigrants? If you have a point to make, make it. Otherwise admit that you are just parroting a statistic without having a clue as to what it implies. Am I right, O' clueless one? That one's probably way too hard for Krause to answer. -- Ban idiots, not guns! He's afraid of what I might say in response to his answer. The questions asked are easily answered with a little digging. When he's obviously put in a corner, he keeps his mouth shut. Most of the time he doesn't realize he was in a corner, opens his mouth, and looks even more stupid. -- Ban idiots, not guns! |
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On 11/26/2015 9:03 PM, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 10:12:37 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote: On 11/26/2015 10:00 AM, John H. wrote: On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 11:33:11 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote: On 11/25/2015 10:25 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 11/25/15 10:15 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/25/2015 10:13 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 11/25/15 10:10 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/25/2015 10:03 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 11/25/15 7:41 AM, John H. wrote: On Tue, 24 Nov 2015 18:08:32 -0600, Boating All Out wrote: Will coverage of cop the killing a teen in Chicago be another 24/7 story? Can they manage two 24/7 stories? We'll see. The video definitely makes the cop appear in the wrong. But, a first degree murder charge has been filed. What more do the marchers want. Is this an excuse to begin looting and burning in Chicago? -- You probably didn't understand the civil rights demonstrations and marches of the 1960s, either. Point to ponder: In the 400 days since this cop committed this obvious murder, 396 blacks were shot and killed by another black in the Chicago area. Do they not understand the civil rights demonstrations and marches of the 1960s or that Black Lives Matter either? You don't "get it," either, eh? Yes Harry, I "get it". Probably better than you do. I don't think so. The 1960's demonstrations/marches were mostly against institutional racism and violence. The Chicago demonstration, such as it was, was also against institutional racism and violence. Police murder of blacks seems to be endemic these days. Institutional violence. We have, what, 30,000+ "deaths by gun" and mostly involving non-police individuals in this country each year. Peculiarly 'Merican, eh? How many by suicide? How many black on black? How many while a crime was being committed? How many with drug involvement? How many accidental? How many by illegal immigrants? If you have a point to make, make it. Otherwise admit that you are just parroting a statistic without having a clue as to what it implies. Am I right, O' clueless one? That one's probably way too hard for Krause to answer. -- Ban idiots, not guns! He's afraid of what I might say in response to his answer. The questions asked are easily answered with a little digging. When he's obviously put in a corner, he keeps his mouth shut. Most of the time he doesn't realize he was in a corner, opens his mouth, and looks even more stupid. -- Ban idiots, not guns! Damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. Now that's a real pickle to be in. ;-) |
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Is Paris/Isis Over?
On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 20:56:19 -0500, John H.
wrote: On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 09:26:54 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/26/2015 8:42 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/26/2015 2:27 AM, RGrew176 wrote: Keyser Söze;1049568 Wrote: On 11/25/15 12:00 PM, wrote:- On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 10:03:39 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: - On 11/25/15 7:41 AM, John H. wrote:- On Tue, 24 Nov 2015 18:08:32 -0600, Boating All Out wrote: Will coverage of cop the killing a teen in Chicago be another 24/7 story? Can they manage two 24/7 stories? We'll see. The video definitely makes the cop appear in the wrong. But, a first degree murder charge has been filed. What more do the marchers want. Is this an excuse to begin looting and burning in Chicago? --- You probably didn't understand the civil rights demonstrations and marches of the 1960s, either.- Those demonstrations were because they felt their grievances were not being heard. Charging an on duty cop with murder 1 is far from that. It is clear that the Chicago DA was doing more than a reasonable reaction. He better add murder 2 and manslaughter as lesser included charges or you might have a Zimmerman moment. It is going to be hard to make a murder 1 case although murder 2 is possible and manslaughter is reasonable. Without a death penalty, there is really not a significant difference in sentencing. In most states you can still do "life" for murder 2. As prisons get more crowded "life" really means "until you get so old and sick that we can't afford to keep you" anyway. - It took 13 months for an indictment, and I think that only came about because a journalist filed an FOIA and the tapes had to be released. Thirteen months for an indictment? That's bull****, when you have tapes in hand. Might be more indictments. Apparently there was a coverup and part of that involved cop erasures of video tapes from nearby security cameras. The tape they have is going to be near impossible to refute. Emptying your magazine into a guy who you've already shot and who is on the ground...that's going to be tough to defend, eh? I wonder if the cop will cop a plea. Agreed, with what is on the tape an indictment should have come within 60 days if even that long. Chicago Mayor: Rahm Emanuel .... Democrat Superintendent of Police: Garry McCarthy ... appointed by Rahm Emanuel State Attorney - Cook County: Anita Alvarez ... Democrat Wow...you've really gone over to the dark side. ? Not so. Just being "fair and balanced". Do you not think there was a 14 month cover up? If there *was* a cover up, by whom? It would not surprise me to learn of chicanery among some higher ups in the police department. Police corruption is endemic nationwide. And who selects the 'higher ups' in the police department, Krause? Poor old Harry has painted himself into the proverbial corner. The "higher ups" are either the appointed officials or the union leaders. |
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wrote:
On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 20:56:19 -0500, John H. wrote: On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 09:26:54 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/26/2015 8:42 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/26/2015 2:27 AM, RGrew176 wrote: Keyser Söze;1049568 Wrote: On 11/25/15 12:00 PM, wrote:- On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 10:03:39 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: - On 11/25/15 7:41 AM, John H. wrote:- On Tue, 24 Nov 2015 18:08:32 -0600, Boating All Out wrote: Will coverage of cop the killing a teen in Chicago be another 24/7 story? Can they manage two 24/7 stories? We'll see. The video definitely makes the cop appear in the wrong. But, a first degree murder charge has been filed. What more do the marchers want. Is this an excuse to begin looting and burning in Chicago? --- You probably didn't understand the civil rights demonstrations and marches of the 1960s, either.- Those demonstrations were because they felt their grievances were not being heard. Charging an on duty cop with murder 1 is far from that. It is clear that the Chicago DA was doing more than a reasonable reaction. He better add murder 2 and manslaughter as lesser included charges or you might have a Zimmerman moment. It is going to be hard to make a murder 1 case although murder 2 is possible and manslaughter is reasonable. Without a death penalty, there is really not a significant difference in sentencing. In most states you can still do "life" for murder 2. As prisons get more crowded "life" really means "until you get so old and sick that we can't afford to keep you" anyway. - It took 13 months for an indictment, and I think that only came about because a journalist filed an FOIA and the tapes had to be released. Thirteen months for an indictment? That's bull****, when you have tapes in hand. Might be more indictments. Apparently there was a coverup and part of that involved cop erasures of video tapes from nearby security cameras. The tape they have is going to be near impossible to refute. Emptying your magazine into a guy who you've already shot and who is on the ground...that's going to be tough to defend, eh? I wonder if the cop will cop a plea. Agreed, with what is on the tape an indictment should have come within 60 days if even that long. Chicago Mayor: Rahm Emanuel .... Democrat Superintendent of Police: Garry McCarthy ... appointed by Rahm Emanuel State Attorney - Cook County: Anita Alvarez ... Democrat Wow...you've really gone over to the dark side. ? Not so. Just being "fair and balanced". Do you not think there was a 14 month cover up? If there *was* a cover up, by whom? It would not surprise me to learn of chicanery among some higher ups in the police department. Police corruption is endemic nationwide. And who selects the 'higher ups' in the police department, Krause? Poor old Harry has painted himself into the proverbial corner. The "higher ups" are either the appointed officials or the union leaders. You have no idea who they are or where they are in the pecking order. A higher up could be a sergeant. -- Sent from my iPhone 6+ |
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On 11/26/15 9:03 PM, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 10:12:37 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote: On 11/26/2015 10:00 AM, John H. wrote: On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 11:33:11 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote: On 11/25/2015 10:25 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 11/25/15 10:15 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/25/2015 10:13 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 11/25/15 10:10 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/25/2015 10:03 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 11/25/15 7:41 AM, John H. wrote: On Tue, 24 Nov 2015 18:08:32 -0600, Boating All Out wrote: Will coverage of cop the killing a teen in Chicago be another 24/7 story? Can they manage two 24/7 stories? We'll see. The video definitely makes the cop appear in the wrong. But, a first degree murder charge has been filed. What more do the marchers want. Is this an excuse to begin looting and burning in Chicago? -- You probably didn't understand the civil rights demonstrations and marches of the 1960s, either. Point to ponder: In the 400 days since this cop committed this obvious murder, 396 blacks were shot and killed by another black in the Chicago area. Do they not understand the civil rights demonstrations and marches of the 1960s or that Black Lives Matter either? You don't "get it," either, eh? Yes Harry, I "get it". Probably better than you do. I don't think so. The 1960's demonstrations/marches were mostly against institutional racism and violence. The Chicago demonstration, such as it was, was also against institutional racism and violence. Police murder of blacks seems to be endemic these days. Institutional violence. We have, what, 30,000+ "deaths by gun" and mostly involving non-police individuals in this country each year. Peculiarly 'Merican, eh? How many by suicide? How many black on black? How many while a crime was being committed? How many with drug involvement? How many accidental? How many by illegal immigrants? If you have a point to make, make it. Otherwise admit that you are just parroting a statistic without having a clue as to what it implies. Am I right, O' clueless one? That one's probably way too hard for Krause to answer. -- Ban idiots, not guns! He's afraid of what I might say in response to his answer. The questions asked are easily answered with a little digging. When he's obviously put in a corner, he keeps his mouth shut. Most of the time he doesn't realize he was in a corner, opens his mouth, and looks even more stupid. -- Ban idiots, not guns! Apparently you right wing trashmeisters can't read. I've often stated I don't read FlaJim's posts firsthand and I usually ignore them when they get reposted, and I usually don't respond when another right wing trashmeister like you tries, and tries, and tries, et cetera. |
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On 11/26/2015 9:32 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
wrote: On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 20:56:19 -0500, John H. wrote: On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 09:26:54 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/26/2015 8:42 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/26/2015 2:27 AM, RGrew176 wrote: Keyser Söze;1049568 Wrote: On 11/25/15 12:00 PM, wrote:- On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 10:03:39 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: - On 11/25/15 7:41 AM, John H. wrote:- On Tue, 24 Nov 2015 18:08:32 -0600, Boating All Out wrote: Will coverage of cop the killing a teen in Chicago be another 24/7 story? Can they manage two 24/7 stories? We'll see. The video definitely makes the cop appear in the wrong. But, a first degree murder charge has been filed. What more do the marchers want. Is this an excuse to begin looting and burning in Chicago? --- You probably didn't understand the civil rights demonstrations and marches of the 1960s, either.- Those demonstrations were because they felt their grievances were not being heard. Charging an on duty cop with murder 1 is far from that. It is clear that the Chicago DA was doing more than a reasonable reaction. He better add murder 2 and manslaughter as lesser included charges or you might have a Zimmerman moment. It is going to be hard to make a murder 1 case although murder 2 is possible and manslaughter is reasonable. Without a death penalty, there is really not a significant difference in sentencing. In most states you can still do "life" for murder 2. As prisons get more crowded "life" really means "until you get so old and sick that we can't afford to keep you" anyway. - It took 13 months for an indictment, and I think that only came about because a journalist filed an FOIA and the tapes had to be released. Thirteen months for an indictment? That's bull****, when you have tapes in hand. Might be more indictments. Apparently there was a coverup and part of that involved cop erasures of video tapes from nearby security cameras. The tape they have is going to be near impossible to refute. Emptying your magazine into a guy who you've already shot and who is on the ground...that's going to be tough to defend, eh? I wonder if the cop will cop a plea. Agreed, with what is on the tape an indictment should have come within 60 days if even that long. Chicago Mayor: Rahm Emanuel .... Democrat Superintendent of Police: Garry McCarthy ... appointed by Rahm Emanuel State Attorney - Cook County: Anita Alvarez ... Democrat Wow...you've really gone over to the dark side. ? Not so. Just being "fair and balanced". Do you not think there was a 14 month cover up? If there *was* a cover up, by whom? It would not surprise me to learn of chicanery among some higher ups in the police department. Police corruption is endemic nationwide. And who selects the 'higher ups' in the police department, Krause? Poor old Harry has painted himself into the proverbial corner. The "higher ups" are either the appointed officials or the union leaders. You have no idea who they are or where they are in the pecking order. A higher up could be a sergeant. Or it could be a bird ****ting on your head. Just sayin! |
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On 11/26/2015 9:40 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 11/26/15 9:03 PM, John H. wrote: On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 10:12:37 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote: On 11/26/2015 10:00 AM, John H. wrote: On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 11:33:11 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote: On 11/25/2015 10:25 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 11/25/15 10:15 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/25/2015 10:13 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 11/25/15 10:10 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/25/2015 10:03 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 11/25/15 7:41 AM, John H. wrote: On Tue, 24 Nov 2015 18:08:32 -0600, Boating All Out wrote: Will coverage of cop the killing a teen in Chicago be another 24/7 story? Can they manage two 24/7 stories? We'll see. The video definitely makes the cop appear in the wrong. But, a first degree murder charge has been filed. What more do the marchers want. Is this an excuse to begin looting and burning in Chicago? -- You probably didn't understand the civil rights demonstrations and marches of the 1960s, either. Point to ponder: In the 400 days since this cop committed this obvious murder, 396 blacks were shot and killed by another black in the Chicago area. Do they not understand the civil rights demonstrations and marches of the 1960s or that Black Lives Matter either? You don't "get it," either, eh? Yes Harry, I "get it". Probably better than you do. I don't think so. The 1960's demonstrations/marches were mostly against institutional racism and violence. The Chicago demonstration, such as it was, was also against institutional racism and violence. Police murder of blacks seems to be endemic these days. Institutional violence. We have, what, 30,000+ "deaths by gun" and mostly involving non-police individuals in this country each year. Peculiarly 'Merican, eh? How many by suicide? How many black on black? How many while a crime was being committed? How many with drug involvement? How many accidental? How many by illegal immigrants? If you have a point to make, make it. Otherwise admit that you are just parroting a statistic without having a clue as to what it implies. Am I right, O' clueless one? That one's probably way too hard for Krause to answer. -- Ban idiots, not guns! He's afraid of what I might say in response to his answer. The questions asked are easily answered with a little digging. When he's obviously put in a corner, he keeps his mouth shut. Most of the time he doesn't realize he was in a corner, opens his mouth, and looks even more stupid. -- Ban idiots, not guns! Apparently you right wing trashmeisters can't read. I've often stated I don't read FlaJim's posts firsthand and I usually ignore them when they get reposted, and I usually don't respond when another right wing trashmeister like you tries, and tries, and tries, et cetera. I really find that hard to believe, Harry. |
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On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 21:32:34 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote: wrote: On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 20:56:19 -0500, John H. wrote: On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 09:26:54 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/26/2015 8:42 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/26/2015 2:27 AM, RGrew176 wrote: Keyser Söze;1049568 Wrote: On 11/25/15 12:00 PM, wrote:- On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 10:03:39 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: - On 11/25/15 7:41 AM, John H. wrote:- On Tue, 24 Nov 2015 18:08:32 -0600, Boating All Out wrote: Will coverage of cop the killing a teen in Chicago be another 24/7 story? Can they manage two 24/7 stories? We'll see. The video definitely makes the cop appear in the wrong. But, a first degree murder charge has been filed. What more do the marchers want. Is this an excuse to begin looting and burning in Chicago? --- You probably didn't understand the civil rights demonstrations and marches of the 1960s, either.- Those demonstrations were because they felt their grievances were not being heard. Charging an on duty cop with murder 1 is far from that. It is clear that the Chicago DA was doing more than a reasonable reaction. He better add murder 2 and manslaughter as lesser included charges or you might have a Zimmerman moment. It is going to be hard to make a murder 1 case although murder 2 is possible and manslaughter is reasonable. Without a death penalty, there is really not a significant difference in sentencing. In most states you can still do "life" for murder 2. As prisons get more crowded "life" really means "until you get so old and sick that we can't afford to keep you" anyway. - It took 13 months for an indictment, and I think that only came about because a journalist filed an FOIA and the tapes had to be released. Thirteen months for an indictment? That's bull****, when you have tapes in hand. Might be more indictments. Apparently there was a coverup and part of that involved cop erasures of video tapes from nearby security cameras. The tape they have is going to be near impossible to refute. Emptying your magazine into a guy who you've already shot and who is on the ground...that's going to be tough to defend, eh? I wonder if the cop will cop a plea. Agreed, with what is on the tape an indictment should have come within 60 days if even that long. Chicago Mayor: Rahm Emanuel .... Democrat Superintendent of Police: Garry McCarthy ... appointed by Rahm Emanuel State Attorney - Cook County: Anita Alvarez ... Democrat Wow...you've really gone over to the dark side. ? Not so. Just being "fair and balanced". Do you not think there was a 14 month cover up? If there *was* a cover up, by whom? It would not surprise me to learn of chicanery among some higher ups in the police department. Police corruption is endemic nationwide. And who selects the 'higher ups' in the police department, Krause? Poor old Harry has painted himself into the proverbial corner. The "higher ups" are either the appointed officials or the union leaders. You have no idea who they are or where they are in the pecking order. A higher up could be a sergeant. A sargent is not going to make a murder beef go away or even delay it longer than he can sit on a document. If the DA is pushing, that will not be very long. |
Is Paris/Isis Over?
On 11/26/2015 9:32 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
wrote: On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 20:56:19 -0500, John H. wrote: On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 09:26:54 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/26/2015 8:42 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/26/2015 2:27 AM, RGrew176 wrote: Keyser Söze;1049568 Wrote: On 11/25/15 12:00 PM, wrote:- On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 10:03:39 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: - On 11/25/15 7:41 AM, John H. wrote:- On Tue, 24 Nov 2015 18:08:32 -0600, Boating All Out wrote: Will coverage of cop the killing a teen in Chicago be another 24/7 story? Can they manage two 24/7 stories? We'll see. The video definitely makes the cop appear in the wrong. But, a first degree murder charge has been filed. What more do the marchers want. Is this an excuse to begin looting and burning in Chicago? --- You probably didn't understand the civil rights demonstrations and marches of the 1960s, either.- Those demonstrations were because they felt their grievances were not being heard. Charging an on duty cop with murder 1 is far from that. It is clear that the Chicago DA was doing more than a reasonable reaction. He better add murder 2 and manslaughter as lesser included charges or you might have a Zimmerman moment. It is going to be hard to make a murder 1 case although murder 2 is possible and manslaughter is reasonable. Without a death penalty, there is really not a significant difference in sentencing. In most states you can still do "life" for murder 2. As prisons get more crowded "life" really means "until you get so old and sick that we can't afford to keep you" anyway. - It took 13 months for an indictment, and I think that only came about because a journalist filed an FOIA and the tapes had to be released. Thirteen months for an indictment? That's bull****, when you have tapes in hand. Might be more indictments. Apparently there was a coverup and part of that involved cop erasures of video tapes from nearby security cameras. The tape they have is going to be near impossible to refute. Emptying your magazine into a guy who you've already shot and who is on the ground...that's going to be tough to defend, eh? I wonder if the cop will cop a plea. Agreed, with what is on the tape an indictment should have come within 60 days if even that long. Chicago Mayor: Rahm Emanuel .... Democrat Superintendent of Police: Garry McCarthy ... appointed by Rahm Emanuel State Attorney - Cook County: Anita Alvarez ... Democrat Wow...you've really gone over to the dark side. ? Not so. Just being "fair and balanced". Do you not think there was a 14 month cover up? If there *was* a cover up, by whom? It would not surprise me to learn of chicanery among some higher ups in the police department. Police corruption is endemic nationwide. And who selects the 'higher ups' in the police department, Krause? Poor old Harry has painted himself into the proverbial corner. The "higher ups" are either the appointed officials or the union leaders. You have no idea who they are or where they are in the pecking order. A higher up could be a sergeant. Do you suppose this hypothetical sergeant kept the whole affair a big secret from the Democrat DA and the Democrat Mayor? |
Is Paris/Isis Over?
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/26/2015 9:32 PM, Keyser Söze wrote: wrote: On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 20:56:19 -0500, John H. wrote: On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 09:26:54 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/26/2015 8:42 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/26/2015 2:27 AM, RGrew176 wrote: Keyser Söze;1049568 Wrote: On 11/25/15 12:00 PM, wrote:- On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 10:03:39 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: - On 11/25/15 7:41 AM, John H. wrote:- On Tue, 24 Nov 2015 18:08:32 -0600, Boating All Out wrote: Will coverage of cop the killing a teen in Chicago be another 24/7 story? Can they manage two 24/7 stories? We'll see. The video definitely makes the cop appear in the wrong. But, a first degree murder charge has been filed. What more do the marchers want. Is this an excuse to begin looting and burning in Chicago? --- You probably didn't understand the civil rights demonstrations and marches of the 1960s, either.- Those demonstrations were because they felt their grievances were not being heard. Charging an on duty cop with murder 1 is far from that. It is clear that the Chicago DA was doing more than a reasonable reaction. He better add murder 2 and manslaughter as lesser included charges or you might have a Zimmerman moment. It is going to be hard to make a murder 1 case although murder 2 is possible and manslaughter is reasonable. Without a death penalty, there is really not a significant difference in sentencing. In most states you can still do "life" for murder 2. As prisons get more crowded "life" really means "until you get so old and sick that we can't afford to keep you" anyway. - It took 13 months for an indictment, and I think that only came about because a journalist filed an FOIA and the tapes had to be released. Thirteen months for an indictment? That's bull****, when you have tapes in hand. Might be more indictments. Apparently there was a coverup and part of that involved cop erasures of video tapes from nearby security cameras. The tape they have is going to be near impossible to refute. Emptying your magazine into a guy who you've already shot and who is on the ground...that's going to be tough to defend, eh? I wonder if the cop will cop a plea. Agreed, with what is on the tape an indictment should have come within 60 days if even that long. Chicago Mayor: Rahm Emanuel .... Democrat Superintendent of Police: Garry McCarthy ... appointed by Rahm Emanuel State Attorney - Cook County: Anita Alvarez ... Democrat Wow...you've really gone over to the dark side. ? Not so. Just being "fair and balanced". Do you not think there was a 14 month cover up? If there *was* a cover up, by whom? It would not surprise me to learn of chicanery among some higher ups in the police department. Police corruption is endemic nationwide. And who selects the 'higher ups' in the police department, Krause? Poor old Harry has painted himself into the proverbial corner. The "higher ups" are either the appointed officials or the union leaders. You have no idea who they are or where they are in the pecking order. A higher up could be a sergeant. Do you suppose this hypothetical sergeant kept the whole affair a big secret from the Democrat DA and the Democrat Mayor? Your shots in the dark are as usual humorous. -- Sent from my iPhone 6+ |
Is Paris/Isis Over?
On 11/27/2015 7:37 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/26/2015 9:32 PM, Keyser Söze wrote: wrote: On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 20:56:19 -0500, John H. wrote: On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 09:26:54 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/26/2015 8:42 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/26/2015 2:27 AM, RGrew176 wrote: Keyser Söze;1049568 Wrote: On 11/25/15 12:00 PM, wrote:- On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 10:03:39 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: - On 11/25/15 7:41 AM, John H. wrote:- On Tue, 24 Nov 2015 18:08:32 -0600, Boating All Out wrote: Will coverage of cop the killing a teen in Chicago be another 24/7 story? Can they manage two 24/7 stories? We'll see. The video definitely makes the cop appear in the wrong. But, a first degree murder charge has been filed. What more do the marchers want. Is this an excuse to begin looting and burning in Chicago? --- You probably didn't understand the civil rights demonstrations and marches of the 1960s, either.- Those demonstrations were because they felt their grievances were not being heard. Charging an on duty cop with murder 1 is far from that. It is clear that the Chicago DA was doing more than a reasonable reaction. He better add murder 2 and manslaughter as lesser included charges or you might have a Zimmerman moment. It is going to be hard to make a murder 1 case although murder 2 is possible and manslaughter is reasonable. Without a death penalty, there is really not a significant difference in sentencing. In most states you can still do "life" for murder 2. As prisons get more crowded "life" really means "until you get so old and sick that we can't afford to keep you" anyway. - It took 13 months for an indictment, and I think that only came about because a journalist filed an FOIA and the tapes had to be released. Thirteen months for an indictment? That's bull****, when you have tapes in hand. Might be more indictments. Apparently there was a coverup and part of that involved cop erasures of video tapes from nearby security cameras. The tape they have is going to be near impossible to refute. Emptying your magazine into a guy who you've already shot and who is on the ground...that's going to be tough to defend, eh? I wonder if the cop will cop a plea. Agreed, with what is on the tape an indictment should have come within 60 days if even that long. Chicago Mayor: Rahm Emanuel .... Democrat Superintendent of Police: Garry McCarthy ... appointed by Rahm Emanuel State Attorney - Cook County: Anita Alvarez ... Democrat Wow...you've really gone over to the dark side. ? Not so. Just being "fair and balanced". Do you not think there was a 14 month cover up? If there *was* a cover up, by whom? It would not surprise me to learn of chicanery among some higher ups in the police department. Police corruption is endemic nationwide. And who selects the 'higher ups' in the police department, Krause? Poor old Harry has painted himself into the proverbial corner. The "higher ups" are either the appointed officials or the union leaders. You have no idea who they are or where they are in the pecking order. A higher up could be a sergeant. Do you suppose this hypothetical sergeant kept the whole affair a big secret from the Democrat DA and the Democrat Mayor? Your shots in the dark are as usual humorous. Harry, if this event occurred in a city with a Republican mayor, and a Republican DA and it took 13-14 months to charge the cop, you would be screaming for their heads. |
Is Paris/Isis Over?
On 11/27/15 4:49 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/26/2015 9:32 PM, Keyser Söze wrote: wrote: On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 20:56:19 -0500, John H. wrote: On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 09:26:54 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/26/2015 8:42 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/26/2015 2:27 AM, RGrew176 wrote: Keyser Söze;1049568 Wrote: On 11/25/15 12:00 PM, wrote:- On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 10:03:39 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: - On 11/25/15 7:41 AM, John H. wrote:- On Tue, 24 Nov 2015 18:08:32 -0600, Boating All Out wrote: Will coverage of cop the killing a teen in Chicago be another 24/7 story? Can they manage two 24/7 stories? We'll see. The video definitely makes the cop appear in the wrong. But, a first degree murder charge has been filed. What more do the marchers want. Is this an excuse to begin looting and burning in Chicago? --- You probably didn't understand the civil rights demonstrations and marches of the 1960s, either.- Those demonstrations were because they felt their grievances were not being heard. Charging an on duty cop with murder 1 is far from that. It is clear that the Chicago DA was doing more than a reasonable reaction. He better add murder 2 and manslaughter as lesser included charges or you might have a Zimmerman moment. It is going to be hard to make a murder 1 case although murder 2 is possible and manslaughter is reasonable. Without a death penalty, there is really not a significant difference in sentencing. In most states you can still do "life" for murder 2. As prisons get more crowded "life" really means "until you get so old and sick that we can't afford to keep you" anyway. - It took 13 months for an indictment, and I think that only came about because a journalist filed an FOIA and the tapes had to be released. Thirteen months for an indictment? That's bull****, when you have tapes in hand. Might be more indictments. Apparently there was a coverup and part of that involved cop erasures of video tapes from nearby security cameras. The tape they have is going to be near impossible to refute. Emptying your magazine into a guy who you've already shot and who is on the ground...that's going to be tough to defend, eh? I wonder if the cop will cop a plea. Agreed, with what is on the tape an indictment should have come within 60 days if even that long. Chicago Mayor: Rahm Emanuel .... Democrat Superintendent of Police: Garry McCarthy ... appointed by Rahm Emanuel State Attorney - Cook County: Anita Alvarez ... Democrat Wow...you've really gone over to the dark side. ? Not so. Just being "fair and balanced". Do you not think there was a 14 month cover up? If there *was* a cover up, by whom? It would not surprise me to learn of chicanery among some higher ups in the police department. Police corruption is endemic nationwide. And who selects the 'higher ups' in the police department, Krause? Poor old Harry has painted himself into the proverbial corner. The "higher ups" are either the appointed officials or the union leaders. You have no idea who they are or where they are in the pecking order. A higher up could be a sergeant. Do you suppose this hypothetical sergeant kept the whole affair a big secret from the Democrat DA and the Democrat Mayor? You boys are hysterical. BTW, proper usage, not GOP usage: Democratic mayor, Democratic DA. Or the mayor is a Democrat. Not Democrat Mayor. |
Is Paris/Isis Over?
On 11/27/2015 7:49 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 11/27/15 4:49 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/26/2015 9:32 PM, Keyser Söze wrote: wrote: On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 20:56:19 -0500, John H. wrote: On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 09:26:54 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/26/2015 8:42 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/26/2015 2:27 AM, RGrew176 wrote: Keyser Söze;1049568 Wrote: On 11/25/15 12:00 PM, wrote:- On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 10:03:39 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: - On 11/25/15 7:41 AM, John H. wrote:- On Tue, 24 Nov 2015 18:08:32 -0600, Boating All Out wrote: Will coverage of cop the killing a teen in Chicago be another 24/7 story? Can they manage two 24/7 stories? We'll see. The video definitely makes the cop appear in the wrong. But, a first degree murder charge has been filed. What more do the marchers want. Is this an excuse to begin looting and burning in Chicago? --- You probably didn't understand the civil rights demonstrations and marches of the 1960s, either.- Those demonstrations were because they felt their grievances were not being heard. Charging an on duty cop with murder 1 is far from that. It is clear that the Chicago DA was doing more than a reasonable reaction. He better add murder 2 and manslaughter as lesser included charges or you might have a Zimmerman moment. It is going to be hard to make a murder 1 case although murder 2 is possible and manslaughter is reasonable. Without a death penalty, there is really not a significant difference in sentencing. In most states you can still do "life" for murder 2. As prisons get more crowded "life" really means "until you get so old and sick that we can't afford to keep you" anyway. - It took 13 months for an indictment, and I think that only came about because a journalist filed an FOIA and the tapes had to be released. Thirteen months for an indictment? That's bull****, when you have tapes in hand. Might be more indictments. Apparently there was a coverup and part of that involved cop erasures of video tapes from nearby security cameras. The tape they have is going to be near impossible to refute. Emptying your magazine into a guy who you've already shot and who is on the ground...that's going to be tough to defend, eh? I wonder if the cop will cop a plea. Agreed, with what is on the tape an indictment should have come within 60 days if even that long. Chicago Mayor: Rahm Emanuel .... Democrat Superintendent of Police: Garry McCarthy ... appointed by Rahm Emanuel State Attorney - Cook County: Anita Alvarez ... Democrat Wow...you've really gone over to the dark side. ? Not so. Just being "fair and balanced". Do you not think there was a 14 month cover up? If there *was* a cover up, by whom? It would not surprise me to learn of chicanery among some higher ups in the police department. Police corruption is endemic nationwide. And who selects the 'higher ups' in the police department, Krause? Poor old Harry has painted himself into the proverbial corner. The "higher ups" are either the appointed officials or the union leaders. You have no idea who they are or where they are in the pecking order. A higher up could be a sergeant. Do you suppose this hypothetical sergeant kept the whole affair a big secret from the Democrat DA and the Democrat Mayor? You boys are hysterical. BTW, proper usage, not GOP usage: Democratic mayor, Democratic DA. Or the mayor is a Democrat. Not Democrat Mayor. Thanks Donnie Jr. But,WGAS |
Is Paris/Isis Over?
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/27/2015 7:37 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/26/2015 9:32 PM, Keyser Söze wrote: wrote: On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 20:56:19 -0500, John H. wrote: On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 09:26:54 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/26/2015 8:42 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/26/2015 2:27 AM, RGrew176 wrote: Keyser Söze;1049568 Wrote: On 11/25/15 12:00 PM, wrote:- On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 10:03:39 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: - On 11/25/15 7:41 AM, John H. wrote:- On Tue, 24 Nov 2015 18:08:32 -0600, Boating All Out wrote: Will coverage of cop the killing a teen in Chicago be another 24/7 story? Can they manage two 24/7 stories? We'll see. The video definitely makes the cop appear in the wrong. But, a first degree murder charge has been filed. What more do the marchers want. Is this an excuse to begin looting and burning in Chicago? --- You probably didn't understand the civil rights demonstrations and marches of the 1960s, either.- Those demonstrations were because they felt their grievances were not being heard. Charging an on duty cop with murder 1 is far from that. It is clear that the Chicago DA was doing more than a reasonable reaction. He better add murder 2 and manslaughter as lesser included charges or you might have a Zimmerman moment. It is going to be hard to make a murder 1 case although murder 2 is possible and manslaughter is reasonable. Without a death penalty, there is really not a significant difference in sentencing. In most states you can still do "life" for murder 2. As prisons get more crowded "life" really means "until you get so old and sick that we can't afford to keep you" anyway. - It took 13 months for an indictment, and I think that only came about because a journalist filed an FOIA and the tapes had to be released. Thirteen months for an indictment? That's bull****, when you have tapes in hand. Might be more indictments. Apparently there was a coverup and part of that involved cop erasures of video tapes from nearby security cameras. The tape they have is going to be near impossible to refute. Emptying your magazine into a guy who you've already shot and who is on the ground...that's going to be tough to defend, eh? I wonder if the cop will cop a plea. Agreed, with what is on the tape an indictment should have come within 60 days if even that long. Chicago Mayor: Rahm Emanuel .... Democrat Superintendent of Police: Garry McCarthy ... appointed by Rahm Emanuel State Attorney - Cook County: Anita Alvarez ... Democrat Wow...you've really gone over to the dark side. ? Not so. Just being "fair and balanced". Do you not think there was a 14 month cover up? If there *was* a cover up, by whom? It would not surprise me to learn of chicanery among some higher ups in the police department. Police corruption is endemic nationwide. And who selects the 'higher ups' in the police department, Krause? Poor old Harry has painted himself into the proverbial corner. The "higher ups" are either the appointed officials or the union leaders. You have no idea who they are or where they are in the pecking order. A higher up could be a sergeant. Do you suppose this hypothetical sergeant kept the whole affair a big secret from the Democrat DA and the Democrat Mayor? Your shots in the dark are as usual humorous. Harry, if this event occurred in a city with a Republican mayor, and a Republican DA and it took 13-14 months to charge the cop, you would be screaming for their heads. I doubt if political party has anything to do with the delays. -- Sent from my iPhone 6+ |
Is Paris/Isis Over?
On 11/27/2015 8:22 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/27/2015 7:37 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/26/2015 9:32 PM, Keyser Söze wrote: wrote: On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 20:56:19 -0500, John H. wrote: On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 09:26:54 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/26/2015 8:42 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/26/2015 2:27 AM, RGrew176 wrote: Keyser Söze;1049568 Wrote: On 11/25/15 12:00 PM, wrote:- On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 10:03:39 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: - On 11/25/15 7:41 AM, John H. wrote:- On Tue, 24 Nov 2015 18:08:32 -0600, Boating All Out wrote: Will coverage of cop the killing a teen in Chicago be another 24/7 story? Can they manage two 24/7 stories? We'll see. The video definitely makes the cop appear in the wrong. But, a first degree murder charge has been filed. What more do the marchers want. Is this an excuse to begin looting and burning in Chicago? --- You probably didn't understand the civil rights demonstrations and marches of the 1960s, either.- Those demonstrations were because they felt their grievances were not being heard. Charging an on duty cop with murder 1 is far from that. It is clear that the Chicago DA was doing more than a reasonable reaction. He better add murder 2 and manslaughter as lesser included charges or you might have a Zimmerman moment. It is going to be hard to make a murder 1 case although murder 2 is possible and manslaughter is reasonable. Without a death penalty, there is really not a significant difference in sentencing. In most states you can still do "life" for murder 2. As prisons get more crowded "life" really means "until you get so old and sick that we can't afford to keep you" anyway. - It took 13 months for an indictment, and I think that only came about because a journalist filed an FOIA and the tapes had to be released. Thirteen months for an indictment? That's bull****, when you have tapes in hand. Might be more indictments. Apparently there was a coverup and part of that involved cop erasures of video tapes from nearby security cameras. The tape they have is going to be near impossible to refute. Emptying your magazine into a guy who you've already shot and who is on the ground...that's going to be tough to defend, eh? I wonder if the cop will cop a plea. Agreed, with what is on the tape an indictment should have come within 60 days if even that long. Chicago Mayor: Rahm Emanuel .... Democrat Superintendent of Police: Garry McCarthy ... appointed by Rahm Emanuel State Attorney - Cook County: Anita Alvarez ... Democrat Wow...you've really gone over to the dark side. ? Not so. Just being "fair and balanced". Do you not think there was a 14 month cover up? If there *was* a cover up, by whom? It would not surprise me to learn of chicanery among some higher ups in the police department. Police corruption is endemic nationwide. And who selects the 'higher ups' in the police department, Krause? Poor old Harry has painted himself into the proverbial corner. The "higher ups" are either the appointed officials or the union leaders. You have no idea who they are or where they are in the pecking order. A higher up could be a sergeant. Do you suppose this hypothetical sergeant kept the whole affair a big secret from the Democrat DA and the Democrat Mayor? Your shots in the dark are as usual humorous. Harry, if this event occurred in a city with a Republican mayor, and a Republican DA and it took 13-14 months to charge the cop, you would be screaming for their heads. I doubt if political party has anything to do with the delays. Except that all the corrupt officials involved are democrats. But that's just coincidental. As John would say,"You are a joke Krause" |
Is Paris/Isis Over?
Ditzy Dan Kruger blathers..
"People should be paid based on their performance, not as a group. Unions remove any incentive for an individual to work harder since their salary is not connected to their personal dedication or hard work." Bull**** Ditzy. I worked in a union environment and the negotiated rates were considered a minimum. There was nothing to stop management from giving a bonus to people who stood out over and above the norm. They could also be promoted as the seniority clause only affected the very lowest groups. |
Is Paris/Isis Over?
On 11/27/15 8:54 AM, True North wrote:
Ditzy Dan Kruger blathers.. "People should be paid based on their performance, not as a group. Unions remove any incentive for an individual to work harder since their salary is not connected to their personal dedication or hard work." Bull**** Ditzy. I worked in a union environment and the negotiated rates were considered a minimum. There was nothing to stop management from giving a bonus to people who stood out over and above the norm. They could also be promoted as the seniority clause only affected the very lowest groups. No reason to take these over-the-top right-wing haters seriously. If they had their way, there would be no wage scales at all, no minimum wage, and employers would hold all the cards. **** that ****. |
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