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Justan Olphart[_2_] November 23rd 15 07:16 PM

The making of a Libertarian
 
On 11/23/2015 2:08 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 11/23/15 1:35 PM, Tim wrote:
- show quoted text -
Tim, do you have to cart your garbage to the dump in your car, like
Harry does?
-----

Nope, trash night it womorrow morning. Just need to have it to the
curb by 5am. At the farm the trash (mostly cardboard and paper
products) goes right into whe wood stove...

Metals go into the recycle barrel then to tune local scrap yard. No I
don't need to haul anything like that. ;)



We just have paper and foil trash, and empty metal cans and bottles,
which I haul once a week a few miles to the local county trash out. It's
one of those non-libertarian services. Garbage goes down the disposal,
and edible leftovers we're not going to eat go out into the woods for
the critters.


You must have your share of rats and raccoons hanging around your house.

Keyser Söze November 23rd 15 07:17 PM

The making of a Libertarian
 
On 11/23/15 2:12 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 23 Nov 2015 10:42:33 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 11/23/15 9:30 AM,
wrote:
On Mon, 23 Nov 2015 06:46:07 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 11/22/15 11:56 PM,
wrote:
My grand daughter is on her way to being a Libertarian

It snowed yesterday in Michigan and they had the perfect sled run all
tamped out. then the snow plow came along.
She came in and said "things were perfect and then the city ruined
it".



Well, of course. Libertarians only care about themselves.

It is better than only caring what others have to give you, usually at
the point of a government gun.


Having the streets plowed by the local government so you can get to
work, the grocery store, to a doctor's appointment or to school, as
examples, is certainly government at the point of a gun. So, if you
lived up north, you'd be out there as a libertarian, insisting the local
government not plow the road in front of your house, eh? Would you have
your trusty sidearm on your hip?


It was originally posted as a cute story but you quickly turned it
into another crusade

Way to go


The original piece was libertarian nonsense, whether or not the story
was true.

Keyser Söze November 23rd 15 07:18 PM

The making of a Libertarian
 
On 11/23/15 2:12 PM, Tim wrote:
- show quoted text -
We just have paper and foil trash, and empty metal cans and bottles,
which I haul once a week a few miles to the local county trash out. It's
one of those non-libertarian services. Garbage goes down the disposal,
and edible leftovers we're not going to eat go out into the woods for
the critters.
....

How wonderful of you.


Well, Tim, unlike you, we don't shoot 'em.

Justan Olphart[_2_] November 23rd 15 07:19 PM

The making of a Libertarian
 
On 11/23/2015 2:12 PM, Tim wrote:
- show quoted text -
We just have paper and foil trash, and empty metal cans and bottles,
which I haul once a week a few miles to the local county trash out. It's
one of those non-libertarian services. Garbage goes down the disposal,
and edible leftovers we're not going to eat go out into the woods for
the critters.
.....

How wonderful of you.

Hey Tim. Rats and roaches have to eat too.

Keyser Söze November 23rd 15 07:34 PM

The making of a Libertarian
 
On 11/23/15 2:16 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 23 Nov 2015 09:04:23 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

- show quoted text -
Having the streets plowed by the local government so you can get to
work, the grocery store, to a doctor's appointment or to school, as
examples, is certainly government at the point of a gun. So, if you
lived up north, you'd be out there as a libertarian, insisting the local
government not plow the road in front of your house, eh? Would you have
your trusty sidearm on your hip?
-------
Nuts with the local government plowing streets. We do that a lot ourselves. That's why farmers around here have tractors with blades on them. Sometimes waiting on the township crew can be frustrating. Off and on I spent two days plowing here last year...


Harry seems to forget, it doesn't snow here but that did not stop him
from interjecting me into his rant.

... and no FEMA has never done a thing to help us here after a half
dozen hurricanes. Two were serious. (Charley and Wilma)
The only help we got from local government was horticulture removal,
after I cut it up and piled it on the curb (once after Charley)
We pay for that as part of our solid waste removal assessment on our
taxes.



If memory serves, the original post in this thread was about sledding in
Michigan, where the local government plowed the streets.

As for FEMA, perhaps the agency found out you were all rugged
libertarian individualists who neither wanted nor would accept any
assistance from the nasty government.

Keyser Söze November 23rd 15 07:48 PM

The making of a Libertarian
 
John H. wrote:
On Mon, 23 Nov 2015 10:42:33 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 11/23/15 9:30 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 23 Nov 2015 06:46:07 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 11/22/15 11:56 PM,
wrote:
My grand daughter is on her way to being a Libertarian

It snowed yesterday in Michigan and they had the perfect sled run all
tamped out. then the snow plow came along.
She came in and said "things were perfect and then the city ruined
it".



Well, of course. Libertarians only care about themselves.

It is better than only caring what others have to give you, usually at
the point of a government gun.


Having the streets plowed by the local government so you can get to
work, the grocery store, to a doctor's appointment or to school, as
examples, is certainly government at the point of a gun. So, if you
lived up north, you'd be out there as a libertarian, insisting the local
government not plow the road in front of your house, eh? Would you have
your trusty sidearm on your hip?


Perhaps, like here, the community would get together and hire a plow. HOA's do it all
the time without the government interfering.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


The county/state plows the public roads. The guy who does my driveway also
plows the private road we are on with four other houses.

--
Sent from my iPhone 6+

[email protected] November 23rd 15 08:45 PM

The making of a Libertarian
 
On Mon, 23 Nov 2015 14:08:40 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 11/23/15 1:35 PM, Tim wrote:
- show quoted text -
Tim, do you have to cart your garbage to the dump in your car, like
Harry does?
-----

Nope, trash night it womorrow morning. Just need to have it to the curb by 5am. At the farm the trash (mostly cardboard and paper products) goes right into whe wood stove...

Metals go into the recycle barrel then to tune local scrap yard. No I don't need to haul anything like that. ;)



We just have paper and foil trash, and empty metal cans and bottles,
which I haul once a week a few miles to the local county trash out. It's
one of those non-libertarian services.


A non-libertarian service would pick it up in front of your house.
I am still not sure why you think libertarians want to eliminate every
thing the government does. We just want a choice.
It sounds like what you have there. I am sure if you had enough
neighbors/voters interested, you would have a county contract with a
mobbed up union carting service who would haul away your trash.
You seem to live among more libertarians than I do but that does not
surprise me. Do they get the same rancor you bestow on me?

leftovers we're not going to eat go out into the woods for
the critters.


Feeding the rats? OK I suppose, if that is the way you want to go.
Most people who actually care about wildlife, say you should not feed
them. It interrupts the natural balance and is usually not the food
they are supposed to be eating anyway.
I do understand this is more laziness than anything else tho. Just
throw your garbage out in the yard and let the environment suffer from
it.

Keyser Söze November 23rd 15 09:06 PM

The making of a Libertarian
 
On 11/23/15 3:45 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 23 Nov 2015 14:08:40 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 11/23/15 1:35 PM, Tim wrote:
- show quoted text -
Tim, do you have to cart your garbage to the dump in your car, like
Harry does?
-----

Nope, trash night it womorrow morning. Just need to have it to the curb by 5am. At the farm the trash (mostly cardboard and paper products) goes right into whe wood stove...

Metals go into the recycle barrel then to tune local scrap yard. No I don't need to haul anything like that. ;)



We just have paper and foil trash, and empty metal cans and bottles,
which I haul once a week a few miles to the local county trash out. It's
one of those non-libertarian services.


A non-libertarian service would pick it up in front of your house.
I am still not sure why you think libertarians want to eliminate every
thing the government does. We just want a choice.
It sounds like what you have there. I am sure if you had enough
neighbors/voters interested, you would have a county contract with a
mobbed up union carting service who would haul away your trash.
You seem to live among more libertarians than I do but that does not
surprise me. Do they get the same rancor you bestow on me?

leftovers we're not going to eat go out into the woods for
the critters.


Feeding the rats? OK I suppose, if that is the way you want to go.
Most people who actually care about wildlife, say you should not feed
them. It interrupts the natural balance and is usually not the food
they are supposed to be eating anyway.
I do understand this is more laziness than anything else tho. Just
throw your garbage out in the yard and let the environment suffer from
it.


We had a private service that charged $25 a month for a weekly pickup,
but over the years that price rose to $100 a month, and over the years,
they went from two guys and a truck to one guy driving the truck and
operating a lift at the front of the truck. There are still a few
neighbors who use these private services, but the majority hit the
county "trashout" once or twice a week.

We've watched the "rats" come for the stuff we toss at the edge of the
woods. They're all wearing raccoon, fox, skunk, possum and squirrel
costumes.

Hey, I admire libertarians for their naivety, rugged individualists all.

John H.[_5_] November 23rd 15 09:09 PM

The making of a Libertarian
 
On Mon, 23 Nov 2015 14:08:40 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 11/23/15 1:35 PM, Tim wrote:
- show quoted text -
Tim, do you have to cart your garbage to the dump in your car, like
Harry does?
-----

Nope, trash night it womorrow morning. Just need to have it to the curb by 5am. At the farm the trash (mostly cardboard and paper products) goes right into whe wood stove...

Metals go into the recycle barrel then to tune local scrap yard. No I don't need to haul anything like that. ;)



We just have paper and foil trash, and empty metal cans and bottles,
which I haul once a week a few miles to the local county trash out. It's
one of those non-libertarian services. Garbage goes down the disposal,
and edible leftovers we're not going to eat go out into the woods for
the critters.


Can't stop stupid.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

John H.[_5_] November 23rd 15 09:11 PM

The making of a Libertarian
 
On Mon, 23 Nov 2015 14:19:21 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote:

On 11/23/2015 2:12 PM, Tim wrote:
- show quoted text -
We just have paper and foil trash, and empty metal cans and bottles,
which I haul once a week a few miles to the local county trash out. It's
one of those non-libertarian services. Garbage goes down the disposal,
and edible leftovers we're not going to eat go out into the woods for
the critters.
.....

How wonderful of you.

Hey Tim. Rats and roaches have to eat too.


Well, I was going to say there are no rats in Calvert County, but we know better.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


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