So, I'm trying to attach a Picatinny rail adapter to a dovetail rail,
and it uses allen screws...fine...I have about 25 small allen keys, but
this one...requires a frippin' 1/16" allen key, the smallest I've
encountered in my lifetime and of course I don't have *that* one. Any
thoughtful vendor would include the key in the parts bag...most vendors
seem to do that...but not this one. Grrrrrr.

On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 16:44:21 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:


So, I'm trying to attach a Picatinny rail adapter to a dovetail rail,
and it uses allen screws...fine...I have about 25 small allen keys, but
this one...requires a frippin' 1/16" allen key, the smallest I've
encountered in my lifetime and of course I don't have *that* one. Any
thoughtful vendor would include the key in the parts bag...most vendors
seem to do that...but not this one. Grrrrrr.

===

That's what happens when you buy that cheap, non-union Chinese stuff -
slave labor you know. :-)

PS, make sure you use some Loctite on those allen screws. They take
quite a pounding and frequently loosen up.

wrote:
On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 16:44:21 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

So, I'm trying to attach a Picatinny rail adapter to a dovetail rail,
and it uses allen screws...fine...I have about 25 small allen keys, but
this one...requires a frippin' 1/16" allen key, the smallest I've
encountered in my lifetime and of course I don't have *that* one. Any
thoughtful vendor would include the key in the parts bag...most vendors
seem to do that...but not this one. Grrrrrr.
===

That's what happens when you buy that cheap, non-union Chinese stuff -
slave labor you know. :-)

PS, make sure you use some Loctite on those allen screws. They take
quite a pounding and frequently loosen up.


Now he'll have to beg his "wife" for $2 to get one at the hardware
store. Fortunately he has nothing else to do. I'm sure a picture of
the hex key will be posted here soon.

On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 19:55:14 -0400, Alex wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 16:44:21 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

So, I'm trying to attach a Picatinny rail adapter to a dovetail rail,
and it uses allen screws...fine...I have about 25 small allen keys, but
this one...requires a frippin' 1/16" allen key, the smallest I've
encountered in my lifetime and of course I don't have *that* one. Any
thoughtful vendor would include the key in the parts bag...most vendors
seem to do that...but not this one. Grrrrrr.
===

That's what happens when you buy that cheap, non-union Chinese stuff -
slave labor you know. :-)

PS, make sure you use some Loctite on those allen screws. They take
quite a pounding and frequently loosen up.


Now he'll have to beg his "wife" for $2 to get one at the hardware
store. Fortunately he has nothing else to do. I'm sure a picture of
the hex key will be posted here soon.

Should be interesting.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

On 10/13/15 4:44 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:

So, I'm trying to attach a Picatinny rail adapter to a dovetail rail,
and it uses allen screws...fine...I have about 25 small allen keys, but
this one...requires a frippin' 1/16" allen key, the smallest I've
encountered in my lifetime and of course I don't have *that* one. Any
thoughtful vendor would include the key in the parts bag...most vendors
seem to do that...but not this one. Grrrrrr.


Found one...and only one...at a local hardware store. 50 cents retail.
Got the rail adapter on, even though I could barely see the damned allen
screws...used the blue loctite...so the rifle is spending the night in
the vise.

Managed to not drop any of the bitty parts on the floor...a first for
me.

On 10/13/2015 8:10 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 10/13/15 4:44 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:

So, I'm trying to attach a Picatinny rail adapter to a dovetail rail,
and it uses allen screws...fine...I have about 25 small allen keys, but
this one...requires a frippin' 1/16" allen key, the smallest I've
encountered in my lifetime and of course I don't have *that* one. Any
thoughtful vendor would include the key in the parts bag...most vendors
seem to do that...but not this one. Grrrrrr.


Found one...and only one...at a local hardware store. 50 cents retail.
Got the rail adapter on, even though I could barely see the damned allen
screws...used the blue loctite...so the rifle is spending the night in
the vise.

Managed to not drop any of the bitty parts on the floor...a first for
me.


Surprised the manufacturer didn't include the required Allen wrench with
the rail adapter.

Sure you didn't miss it in the packaging?

On 10/13/15 8:15 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/13/2015 8:10 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 10/13/15 4:44 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:

So, I'm trying to attach a Picatinny rail adapter to a dovetail rail,
and it uses allen screws...fine...I have about 25 small allen keys, but
this one...requires a frippin' 1/16" allen key, the smallest I've
encountered in my lifetime and of course I don't have *that* one. Any
thoughtful vendor would include the key in the parts bag...most vendors
seem to do that...but not this one. Grrrrrr.


Found one...and only one...at a local hardware store. 50 cents retail.
Got the rail adapter on, even though I could barely see the damned allen
screws...used the blue loctite...so the rifle is spending the night in
the vise.

Managed to not drop any of the bitty parts on the floor...a first for
me.


Surprised the manufacturer didn't include the required Allen wrench with
the rail adapter.

Sure you didn't miss it in the packaging?




No...it was well-packaged and it wasn't there...or mentioned in the
enclosed instruction sheet. Just about every other gun "bit" I've bought
in the last few years that included very small allen screws included an
allen key. This wasn't a cheap, "Chinese" item, either.

On 10/13/2015 8:19 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 10/13/15 8:15 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/13/2015 8:10 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 10/13/15 4:44 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:

So, I'm trying to attach a Picatinny rail adapter to a dovetail rail,
and it uses allen screws...fine...I have about 25 small allen keys, but
this one...requires a frippin' 1/16" allen key, the smallest I've
encountered in my lifetime and of course I don't have *that* one. Any
thoughtful vendor would include the key in the parts bag...most vendors
seem to do that...but not this one. Grrrrrr.


Found one...and only one...at a local hardware store. 50 cents retail.
Got the rail adapter on, even though I could barely see the damned allen
screws...used the blue loctite...so the rifle is spending the night in
the vise.

Managed to not drop any of the bitty parts on the floor...a first for
me.


Surprised the manufacturer didn't include the required Allen wrench with
the rail adapter.

Sure you didn't miss it in the packaging?




No...it was well-packaged and it wasn't there...or mentioned in the
enclosed instruction sheet. Just about every other gun "bit" I've bought
in the last few years that included very small allen screws included an
allen key. This wasn't a cheap, "Chinese" item, either.


Not all Chinese manufactured items are junk. When we put our pool in 8
years ago and built a cabana, my wife bought an outdoor "bar" type setup
that included a granite topped table to sit at and five tall "bar"
chairs with backs. The table and chairs are made of anodized aluminum
that had to be assembled. The many screws that hold it together are
installed in welded nuts in the frames of the table and chairs. When I
prepared to put it all together I expected the worst ... especially when
a welded nut location can't be held to the same precision as a CNC
controlled threaded hole.

To my amazement, everything lined up perfectly. Nothing was off. Don't
know how they did it but it was well thought out and manufactured.

Eight years later, it still looks like new, even after sitting out in
the snow of winter and the hot days of summer.

On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 20:31:52 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 10/13/2015 8:19 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 10/13/15 8:15 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/13/2015 8:10 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 10/13/15 4:44 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:

So, I'm trying to attach a Picatinny rail adapter to a dovetail rail,
and it uses allen screws...fine...I have about 25 small allen keys, but
this one...requires a frippin' 1/16" allen key, the smallest I've
encountered in my lifetime and of course I don't have *that* one. Any
thoughtful vendor would include the key in the parts bag...most vendors
seem to do that...but not this one. Grrrrrr.


Found one...and only one...at a local hardware store. 50 cents retail.
Got the rail adapter on, even though I could barely see the damned allen
screws...used the blue loctite...so the rifle is spending the night in
the vise.

Managed to not drop any of the bitty parts on the floor...a first for
me.


Surprised the manufacturer didn't include the required Allen wrench with
the rail adapter.

Sure you didn't miss it in the packaging?




No...it was well-packaged and it wasn't there...or mentioned in the
enclosed instruction sheet. Just about every other gun "bit" I've bought
in the last few years that included very small allen screws included an
allen key. This wasn't a cheap, "Chinese" item, either.


Not all Chinese manufactured items are junk. When we put our pool in 8
years ago and built a cabana, my wife bought an outdoor "bar" type setup
that included a granite topped table to sit at and five tall "bar"
chairs with backs. The table and chairs are made of anodized aluminum
that had to be assembled. The many screws that hold it together are
installed in welded nuts in the frames of the table and chairs. When I
prepared to put it all together I expected the worst ... especially when
a welded nut location can't be held to the same precision as a CNC
controlled threaded hole.

To my amazement, everything lined up perfectly. Nothing was off. Don't
know how they did it but it was well thought out and manufactured.

Eight years later, it still looks like new, even after sitting out in
the snow of winter and the hot days of summer.

My guess is they have a jig that they use to hold the nuts while they
are being welded and then they take the bolts out.

On Tuesday, October 13, 2015 at 7:19:59 PM UTC-5, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 10/13/15 8:15 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/13/2015 8:10 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 10/13/15 4:44 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:

So, I'm trying to attach a Picatinny rail adapter to a dovetail rail,
and it uses allen screws...fine...I have about 25 small allen keys, but
this one...requires a frippin' 1/16" allen key, the smallest I've
encountered in my lifetime and of course I don't have *that* one. Any
thoughtful vendor would include the key in the parts bag...most vendors
seem to do that...but not this one. Grrrrrr.


Found one...and only one...at a local hardware store. 50 cents retail.
Got the rail adapter on, even though I could barely see the damned allen
screws...used the blue loctite...so the rifle is spending the night in
the vise.

Managed to not drop any of the bitty parts on the floor...a first for
me.


Surprised the manufacturer didn't include the required Allen wrench with
the rail adapter.

Sure you didn't miss it in the packaging?




No...it was well-packaged and it wasn't there...or mentioned in the
enclosed instruction sheet. Just about every other gun "bit" I've bought
in the last few years that included very small allen screws included an
allen key. This wasn't a cheap, "Chinese" item, either.

I bet the .50c wrench was.