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Wayne.B September 17th 15 07:06 PM

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Don't try this at home...

https://youtu.be/UoTolRwyy2s

Those thrusters must be incredibly powerful.

[email protected] September 18th 15 12:44 AM

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On Thu, 17 Sep 2015 14:06:40 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

Don't try this at home...

https://youtu.be/UoTolRwyy2s

Those thrusters must be incredibly powerful.


I have always been impressed by the thrusters on these cruise ships.
Just watching them "parallel park" on the crowded docks along the
Miami River with a stiff onshore wind is a thing to see,.

Mr. Luddite September 18th 15 01:10 AM

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On 9/17/2015 7:44 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 17 Sep 2015 14:06:40 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

Don't try this at home...

https://youtu.be/UoTolRwyy2s

Those thrusters must be incredibly powerful.


I have always been impressed by the thrusters on these cruise ships.
Just watching them "parallel park" on the crowded docks along the
Miami River with a stiff onshore wind is a thing to see,.


Heh. Not quite in the same league, but here's me parallel docking the
Navigator using five horsepower (electric) thrusters.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pV1J5iTMJSY

Alex[_4_] September 18th 15 01:22 AM

Drone View of Cool Docking Maneuver
 
Wayne.B wrote:
Don't try this at home...

https://youtu.be/UoTolRwyy2s

Those thrusters must be incredibly powerful.


They churned up a lot of mud. They did it without a pilot, too. Must be
a regular route for that ferry.


Wayne.B September 18th 15 04:02 AM

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On Thu, 17 Sep 2015 20:10:29 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 9/17/2015 7:44 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 17 Sep 2015 14:06:40 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

Don't try this at home...

https://youtu.be/UoTolRwyy2s

Those thrusters must be incredibly powerful.


I have always been impressed by the thrusters on these cruise ships.
Just watching them "parallel park" on the crowded docks along the
Miami River with a stiff onshore wind is a thing to see,.


Heh. Not quite in the same league, but here's me parallel docking the
Navigator using five horsepower (electric) thrusters.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pV1J5iTMJSY


===

Nicely done. Was that on the ICW?

Mr. Luddite September 18th 15 07:27 AM

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On 9/17/2015 11:02 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 17 Sep 2015 20:10:29 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 9/17/2015 7:44 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 17 Sep 2015 14:06:40 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

Don't try this at home...

https://youtu.be/UoTolRwyy2s

Those thrusters must be incredibly powerful.

I have always been impressed by the thrusters on these cruise ships.
Just watching them "parallel park" on the crowded docks along the
Miami River with a stiff onshore wind is a thing to see,.


Heh. Not quite in the same league, but here's me parallel docking the
Navigator using five horsepower (electric) thrusters.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pV1J5iTMJSY


===

Nicely done. Was that on the ICW?


It was but I forget where.



amdx[_3_] September 18th 15 11:46 PM

Drone View of Cool Docking Maneuver
 
On 9/17/2015 7:22 PM, Alex wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
Don't try this at home...

https://youtu.be/UoTolRwyy2s

Those thrusters must be incredibly powerful.


They churned up a lot of mud. They did it without a pilot, too. Must be
a regular route for that ferry.


All right, that's about enough boat stuff,
you're messing with FOADs Newsgroup for Denigrating Conservatives.

Mikek



Keyser Söze September 18th 15 11:50 PM

Drone View of Cool Docking Maneuver
 
On 9/18/15 6:46 PM, amdx wrote:
On 9/17/2015 7:22 PM, Alex wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
Don't try this at home...

https://youtu.be/UoTolRwyy2s

Those thrusters must be incredibly powerful.


They churned up a lot of mud. They did it without a pilot, too. Must be
a regular route for that ferry.


All right, that's about enough boat stuff,
you're messing with FOADs Newsgroup for Denigrating Conservatives.

Mikek



Nah. I don't read posts from most of the occupants of the right-wing
clown car here, and those occupants include Whine and Gunboy Alex.


amdx[_3_] September 19th 15 12:44 PM

Drone View of Cool Docking Maneuver
 
On 9/18/2015 5:50 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 9/18/15 6:46 PM, amdx wrote:
On 9/17/2015 7:22 PM, Alex wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
Don't try this at home...

https://youtu.be/UoTolRwyy2s

Those thrusters must be incredibly powerful.


They churned up a lot of mud. They did it without a pilot, too. Must be
a regular route for that ferry.


All right, that's about enough boat stuff,
you're messing with FOADs Newsgroup for Denigrating Conservatives.

Mikek



Nah. I don't read posts from most of the occupants of the right-wing
clown car here, and those occupants include Whine and Gunboy Alex.


I said nothing about what you read.
I was referring to the life you live, devoted to writing denigrating
posts about conservatives on rec.boats.
Did you ever think about getting out of your easy chair and doing
something constructive?
54 out of the 100 posts on my reader are your started by you.
It would be no surprise that 93% of them are written to disparage
conservatives.
Your life is out of control, take a step back, no better take a long
walk back and see just what your life has become.
Again, get out of that chair.

Sincerely, Mikek



Keyser Söze September 19th 15 01:26 PM

Drone View of Cool Docking Maneuver
 
On 9/19/15 7:44 AM, amdx wrote:
On 9/18/2015 5:50 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 9/18/15 6:46 PM, amdx wrote:
On 9/17/2015 7:22 PM, Alex wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
Don't try this at home...

https://youtu.be/UoTolRwyy2s

Those thrusters must be incredibly powerful.


They churned up a lot of mud. They did it without a pilot, too.
Must be
a regular route for that ferry.


All right, that's about enough boat stuff,
you're messing with FOADs Newsgroup for Denigrating Conservatives.

Mikek



Nah. I don't read posts from most of the occupants of the right-wing
clown car here, and those occupants include Whine and Gunboy Alex.


I said nothing about what you read.
I was referring to the life you live, devoted to writing denigrating
posts about conservatives on rec.boats.
Did you ever think about getting out of your easy chair and doing
something constructive?
54 out of the 100 posts on my reader are your started by you.
It would be no surprise that 93% of them are written to disparage
conservatives.
Your life is out of control, take a step back, no better take a long
walk back and see just what your life has become.
Again, get out of that chair.

Sincerely, Mikek



Go catch a few shrimp, Mikey.

amdx[_3_] September 19th 15 03:45 PM

Drone View of Cool Docking Maneuver
 
On 9/19/2015 7:26 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 9/19/15 7:44 AM, amdx wrote:
On 9/18/2015 5:50 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 9/18/15 6:46 PM, amdx wrote:
On 9/17/2015 7:22 PM, Alex wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
Don't try this at home...

https://youtu.be/UoTolRwyy2s

Those thrusters must be incredibly powerful.


They churned up a lot of mud. They did it without a pilot, too.
Must be
a regular route for that ferry.


All right, that's about enough boat stuff,
you're messing with FOADs Newsgroup for Denigrating Conservatives.

Mikek



Nah. I don't read posts from most of the occupants of the right-wing
clown car here, and those occupants include Whine and Gunboy Alex.


I said nothing about what you read.
I was referring to the life you live, devoted to writing denigrating
posts about conservatives on rec.boats.
Did you ever think about getting out of your easy chair and doing
something constructive?
54 out of the 100 posts on my reader are your started by you.
It would be no surprise that 93% of them are written to disparage
conservatives.
Your life is out of control, take a step back, no better take a long
walk back and see just what your life has become.
Again, get out of that chair.

Sincerely, Mikek



Go catch a few shrimp, Mikey.


Oh you mean, do something rather than set in a chair?
Just for fun and exercise, I was up at 5am, swam 2 miles in 1.5 hrs,
Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday, dropped down to a little over a mile
on Thursday, plus I walked over 2 miles everyday.
Get out of your chair FOAD. You're in a rut.
Mikek

Justan Olphart[_2_] September 19th 15 03:50 PM

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On 9/19/2015 10:45 AM, amdx wrote:
On 9/19/2015 7:26 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 9/19/15 7:44 AM, amdx wrote:
On 9/18/2015 5:50 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 9/18/15 6:46 PM, amdx wrote:
On 9/17/2015 7:22 PM, Alex wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
Don't try this at home...

https://youtu.be/UoTolRwyy2s

Those thrusters must be incredibly powerful.


They churned up a lot of mud. They did it without a pilot, too.
Must be
a regular route for that ferry.


All right, that's about enough boat stuff,
you're messing with FOADs Newsgroup for Denigrating Conservatives.

Mikek



Nah. I don't read posts from most of the occupants of the right-wing
clown car here, and those occupants include Whine and Gunboy Alex.


I said nothing about what you read.
I was referring to the life you live, devoted to writing denigrating
posts about conservatives on rec.boats.
Did you ever think about getting out of your easy chair and doing
something constructive?
54 out of the 100 posts on my reader are your started by you.
It would be no surprise that 93% of them are written to disparage
conservatives.
Your life is out of control, take a step back, no better take a long
walk back and see just what your life has become.
Again, get out of that chair.

Sincerely, Mikek



Go catch a few shrimp, Mikey.


Oh you mean, do something rather than set in a chair?
Just for fun and exercise, I was up at 5am, swam 2 miles in 1.5 hrs,
Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday, dropped down to a little over a mile
on Thursday, plus I walked over 2 miles everyday.
Get out of your chair FOAD. You're in a rut.
Mikek

At least he didn't suggest you do something illegal, immoral, or
fattening, as Krause is wont to do.

Justan Olphart[_2_] September 19th 15 05:13 PM

Drone View of Cool Docking Maneuver
 
On 9/19/2015 12:14 PM, amdx wrote:
On 9/19/2015 9:50 AM, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 9/19/2015 10:45 AM, amdx wrote:
On 9/19/2015 7:26 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 9/19/15 7:44 AM, amdx wrote:
On 9/18/2015 5:50 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 9/18/15 6:46 PM, amdx wrote:
On 9/17/2015 7:22 PM, Alex wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
Don't try this at home...

https://youtu.be/UoTolRwyy2s

Those thrusters must be incredibly powerful.


They churned up a lot of mud. They did it without a pilot, too.
Must be
a regular route for that ferry.


All right, that's about enough boat stuff,
you're messing with FOADs Newsgroup for Denigrating Conservatives.

Mikek



Nah. I don't read posts from most of the occupants of the right-wing
clown car here, and those occupants include Whine and Gunboy Alex.


I said nothing about what you read.
I was referring to the life you live, devoted to writing denigrating
posts about conservatives on rec.boats.
Did you ever think about getting out of your easy chair and doing
something constructive?
54 out of the 100 posts on my reader are your started by you.
It would be no surprise that 93% of them are written to disparage
conservatives.
Your life is out of control, take a step back, no better take a long
walk back and see just what your life has become.
Again, get out of that chair.

Sincerely, Mikek



Go catch a few shrimp, Mikey.

Oh you mean, do something rather than set in a chair?
Just for fun and exercise, I was up at 5am, swam 2 miles in 1.5 hrs,
Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday, dropped down to a little over a mile
on Thursday, plus I walked over 2 miles everyday.
Get out of your chair FOAD. You're in a rut.
Mikek


At least he didn't suggest you do something illegal, immoral, or
fattening, as Krause is wont to do.


Ya, he's confused, I don't catch them, I sell them. Sold about 50lbs
in the last 3 hrs, it has slowed down since school started, tourists are
gone, snowbirds haven't arrived. Getting a little more free time now,
not enough to set in a chair like FOAD though!
Mikek

Hopefully when you reach Harry's current age, you'll be retired and take
time to smell the roses. Looks like you'll be in much better shape
financially.

amdx[_3_] September 19th 15 05:14 PM

Drone View of Cool Docking Maneuver
 
On 9/19/2015 9:50 AM, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 9/19/2015 10:45 AM, amdx wrote:
On 9/19/2015 7:26 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 9/19/15 7:44 AM, amdx wrote:
On 9/18/2015 5:50 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 9/18/15 6:46 PM, amdx wrote:
On 9/17/2015 7:22 PM, Alex wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
Don't try this at home...

https://youtu.be/UoTolRwyy2s

Those thrusters must be incredibly powerful.


They churned up a lot of mud. They did it without a pilot, too.
Must be
a regular route for that ferry.


All right, that's about enough boat stuff,
you're messing with FOADs Newsgroup for Denigrating Conservatives.

Mikek



Nah. I don't read posts from most of the occupants of the right-wing
clown car here, and those occupants include Whine and Gunboy Alex.


I said nothing about what you read.
I was referring to the life you live, devoted to writing denigrating
posts about conservatives on rec.boats.
Did you ever think about getting out of your easy chair and doing
something constructive?
54 out of the 100 posts on my reader are your started by you.
It would be no surprise that 93% of them are written to disparage
conservatives.
Your life is out of control, take a step back, no better take a long
walk back and see just what your life has become.
Again, get out of that chair.

Sincerely, Mikek



Go catch a few shrimp, Mikey.


Oh you mean, do something rather than set in a chair?
Just for fun and exercise, I was up at 5am, swam 2 miles in 1.5 hrs,
Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday, dropped down to a little over a mile
on Thursday, plus I walked over 2 miles everyday.
Get out of your chair FOAD. You're in a rut.
Mikek


At least he didn't suggest you do something illegal, immoral, or
fattening, as Krause is wont to do.


Ya, he's confused, I don't catch them, I sell them. Sold about 50lbs
in the last 3 hrs, it has slowed down since school started, tourists are
gone, snowbirds haven't arrived. Getting a little more free time now,
not enough to set in a chair like FOAD though!
Mikek


Wayne.B September 19th 15 07:47 PM

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On Sat, 19 Sep 2015 12:13:04 -0400, Justan Olphart
wrote:

On 9/19/2015 12:14 PM, amdx wrote:
On 9/19/2015 9:50 AM, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 9/19/2015 10:45 AM, amdx wrote:
On 9/19/2015 7:26 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 9/19/15 7:44 AM, amdx wrote:
On 9/18/2015 5:50 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 9/18/15 6:46 PM, amdx wrote:
On 9/17/2015 7:22 PM, Alex wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
Don't try this at home...

https://youtu.be/UoTolRwyy2s

Those thrusters must be incredibly powerful.


They churned up a lot of mud. They did it without a pilot, too.
Must be
a regular route for that ferry.


All right, that's about enough boat stuff,
you're messing with FOADs Newsgroup for Denigrating Conservatives.

Mikek



Nah. I don't read posts from most of the occupants of the right-wing
clown car here, and those occupants include Whine and Gunboy Alex.


I said nothing about what you read.
I was referring to the life you live, devoted to writing denigrating
posts about conservatives on rec.boats.
Did you ever think about getting out of your easy chair and doing
something constructive?
54 out of the 100 posts on my reader are your started by you.
It would be no surprise that 93% of them are written to disparage
conservatives.
Your life is out of control, take a step back, no better take a long
walk back and see just what your life has become.
Again, get out of that chair.

Sincerely, Mikek



Go catch a few shrimp, Mikey.

Oh you mean, do something rather than set in a chair?
Just for fun and exercise, I was up at 5am, swam 2 miles in 1.5 hrs,
Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday, dropped down to a little over a mile
on Thursday, plus I walked over 2 miles everyday.
Get out of your chair FOAD. You're in a rut.
Mikek


At least he didn't suggest you do something illegal, immoral, or
fattening, as Krause is wont to do.


Ya, he's confused, I don't catch them, I sell them. Sold about 50lbs
in the last 3 hrs, it has slowed down since school started, tourists are
gone, snowbirds haven't arrived. Getting a little more free time now,
not enough to set in a chair like FOAD though!
Mikek

Hopefully when you reach Harry's current age, you'll be retired and take
time to smell the roses. Looks like you'll be in much better shape
financially.


===

Yes, and his money will be honestly earned.

Keyser Söze September 19th 15 08:01 PM

Drone View of Cool Docking Maneuver
 
On 9/19/15 12:14 PM, amdx wrote:
On 9/19/2015 9:50 AM, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 9/19/2015 10:45 AM, amdx wrote:
On 9/19/2015 7:26 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 9/19/15 7:44 AM, amdx wrote:
On 9/18/2015 5:50 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 9/18/15 6:46 PM, amdx wrote:
On 9/17/2015 7:22 PM, Alex wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
Don't try this at home...

https://youtu.be/UoTolRwyy2s

Those thrusters must be incredibly powerful.


They churned up a lot of mud. They did it without a pilot, too.
Must be
a regular route for that ferry.


All right, that's about enough boat stuff,
you're messing with FOADs Newsgroup for Denigrating Conservatives.

Mikek



Nah. I don't read posts from most of the occupants of the right-wing
clown car here, and those occupants include Whine and Gunboy Alex.


I said nothing about what you read.
I was referring to the life you live, devoted to writing denigrating
posts about conservatives on rec.boats.
Did you ever think about getting out of your easy chair and doing
something constructive?
54 out of the 100 posts on my reader are your started by you.
It would be no surprise that 93% of them are written to disparage
conservatives.
Your life is out of control, take a step back, no better take a long
walk back and see just what your life has become.
Again, get out of that chair.

Sincerely, Mikek



Go catch a few shrimp, Mikey.

Oh you mean, do something rather than set in a chair?
Just for fun and exercise, I was up at 5am, swam 2 miles in 1.5 hrs,
Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday, dropped down to a little over a mile
on Thursday, plus I walked over 2 miles everyday.
Get out of your chair FOAD. You're in a rut.
Mikek


At least he didn't suggest you do something illegal, immoral, or
fattening, as Krause is wont to do.


Ya, he's confused, I don't catch them, I sell them. Sold about 50lbs
in the last 3 hrs, it has slowed down since school started, tourists are
gone, snowbirds haven't arrived. Getting a little more free time now,
not enough to set in a chair like FOAD though!
Mikek


My mistake. I thought you were part of the Bubba Gump enterprise, in
that you trolled or cast netted the shrimp you sold. But you're just a
fishmonger.

I've been working my butt off the last few weeks, digging edging
trenches for my wife's endless "garden areas," trimming trees, shaping
Nellie Hollies, spreading mulch, and this morning I dropped a dead 70'
tree behind the back yard and chainsawed it into 4' lengths I could dump
in the woods for the woodpeckers.

That's a bit more exercise than sitting on the edge of a dock, dumping a
few pounds of shrimp into plastic bags with ice.

I used to enjoy castnetting for bait -shrimp and pogies- when we lived
in Florida. Can you toss a castnet or do you just sell what others catch?

amdx[_3_] September 19th 15 10:05 PM

Drone View of Cool Docking Maneuver
 
On 9/19/2015 2:01 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 9/19/15 12:14 PM, amdx wrote:
On 9/19/2015 9:50 AM, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 9/19/2015 10:45 AM, amdx wrote:
On 9/19/2015 7:26 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 9/19/15 7:44 AM, amdx wrote:
On 9/18/2015 5:50 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 9/18/15 6:46 PM, amdx wrote:
On 9/17/2015 7:22 PM, Alex wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
Don't try this at home...

https://youtu.be/UoTolRwyy2s

Those thrusters must be incredibly powerful.


They churned up a lot of mud. They did it without a pilot, too.
Must be
a regular route for that ferry.


All right, that's about enough boat stuff,
you're messing with FOADs Newsgroup for Denigrating Conservatives.

Mikek



Nah. I don't read posts from most of the occupants of the right-wing
clown car here, and those occupants include Whine and Gunboy Alex.


I said nothing about what you read.
I was referring to the life you live, devoted to writing denigrating
posts about conservatives on rec.boats.
Did you ever think about getting out of your easy chair and doing
something constructive?
54 out of the 100 posts on my reader are your started by you.
It would be no surprise that 93% of them are written to disparage
conservatives.
Your life is out of control, take a step back, no better take a
long
walk back and see just what your life has become.
Again, get out of that chair.

Sincerely, Mikek



Go catch a few shrimp, Mikey.

Oh you mean, do something rather than set in a chair?
Just for fun and exercise, I was up at 5am, swam 2 miles in 1.5 hrs,
Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday, dropped down to a little over a mile
on Thursday, plus I walked over 2 miles everyday.
Get out of your chair FOAD. You're in a rut.
Mikek


At least he didn't suggest you do something illegal, immoral, or
fattening, as Krause is wont to do.


Ya, he's confused, I don't catch them, I sell them. Sold about 50lbs
in the last 3 hrs, it has slowed down since school started, tourists are
gone, snowbirds haven't arrived. Getting a little more free time now,
not enough to set in a chair like FOAD though!
Mikek


My mistake. I thought you were part of the Bubba Gump enterprise, in
that you trolled or cast netted the shrimp you sold. But you're just a
fishmonger.


Yep, Just a fishmonger, but it's been good to us.
I'll retire with comfort.

I've been working my butt off the last few weeks, digging edging
trenches for my wife's endless "garden areas," trimming trees, shaping
Nellie Hollies, spreading mulch, and this morning I dropped a dead 70'
tree behind the back yard and chainsawed it into 4' lengths I could dump
in the woods for the woodpeckers.

Yet you still have time to make 54% of the posts on rec.boats. You are
simply amazing.

That's a bit more exercise than sitting on the edge of a dock, dumping a
few pounds of shrimp into plastic bags with ice.


Ya I wish that was all, It is lifting and moving 45 lb to 75 lb
coolers loaded with shrimp and ice that is the work. The good part that
is only about about 15% of the time.

I used to enjoy castnetting for bait -shrimp and pogies- when we lived
in Florida. Can you toss a castnet or do you just sell what others catch?


Very little recreational shrimping in our area, I read and hear they do
in other areas. I guess our bay is not conducive to it.
Nah, I've tried cast netting a few times, didn't practice enough to
get consistent throws. I'm just not that interested, I don't fish, to
boring. My wife did catch a redfish that had been hanging around the
boat for a few days. She caught it on fishline wrapped around a heavy
duty cardboard tube.
Ya, I just sell what others catch. I have no interest in being up all
night shrimping, then spending my days repairing the boat.

Mikek

Keyser Söze September 19th 15 10:50 PM

Drone View of Cool Docking Maneuver
 
On 9/19/15 5:05 PM, amdx wrote:
On 9/19/2015 2:01 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 9/19/15 12:14 PM, amdx wrote:
On 9/19/2015 9:50 AM, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 9/19/2015 10:45 AM, amdx wrote:
On 9/19/2015 7:26 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 9/19/15 7:44 AM, amdx wrote:
On 9/18/2015 5:50 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 9/18/15 6:46 PM, amdx wrote:
On 9/17/2015 7:22 PM, Alex wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
Don't try this at home...

https://youtu.be/UoTolRwyy2s

Those thrusters must be incredibly powerful.


They churned up a lot of mud. They did it without a pilot, too.
Must be
a regular route for that ferry.


All right, that's about enough boat stuff,
you're messing with FOADs Newsgroup for Denigrating Conservatives.

Mikek



Nah. I don't read posts from most of the occupants of the
right-wing
clown car here, and those occupants include Whine and Gunboy Alex.


I said nothing about what you read.
I was referring to the life you live, devoted to writing denigrating
posts about conservatives on rec.boats.
Did you ever think about getting out of your easy chair and doing
something constructive?
54 out of the 100 posts on my reader are your started by you.
It would be no surprise that 93% of them are written to disparage
conservatives.
Your life is out of control, take a step back, no better take a
long
walk back and see just what your life has become.
Again, get out of that chair.

Sincerely, Mikek



Go catch a few shrimp, Mikey.

Oh you mean, do something rather than set in a chair?
Just for fun and exercise, I was up at 5am, swam 2 miles in 1.5 hrs,
Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday, dropped down to a little over a mile
on Thursday, plus I walked over 2 miles everyday.
Get out of your chair FOAD. You're in a rut.
Mikek

At least he didn't suggest you do something illegal, immoral, or
fattening, as Krause is wont to do.

Ya, he's confused, I don't catch them, I sell them. Sold about 50lbs
in the last 3 hrs, it has slowed down since school started, tourists are
gone, snowbirds haven't arrived. Getting a little more free time now,
not enough to set in a chair like FOAD though!
Mikek


My mistake. I thought you were part of the Bubba Gump enterprise, in
that you trolled or cast netted the shrimp you sold. But you're just a
fishmonger.


Yep, Just a fishmonger, but it's been good to us.
I'll retire with comfort.

I've been working my butt off the last few weeks, digging edging
trenches for my wife's endless "garden areas," trimming trees, shaping
Nellie Hollies, spreading mulch, and this morning I dropped a dead 70'
tree behind the back yard and chainsawed it into 4' lengths I could dump
in the woods for the woodpeckers.

Yet you still have time to make 54% of the posts on rec.boats. You are
simply amazing.

That's a bit more exercise than sitting on the edge of a dock, dumping a
few pounds of shrimp into plastic bags with ice.


Ya I wish that was all, It is lifting and moving 45 lb to 75 lb
coolers loaded with shrimp and ice that is the work. The good part that
is only about about 15% of the time.

I used to enjoy castnetting for bait -shrimp and pogies- when we lived
in Florida. Can you toss a castnet or do you just sell what others catch?


Very little recreational shrimping in our area, I read and hear they do
in other areas. I guess our bay is not conducive to it.
Nah, I've tried cast netting a few times, didn't practice enough to
get consistent throws. I'm just not that interested, I don't fish, to
boring. My wife did catch a redfish that had been hanging around the
boat for a few days. She caught it on fishline wrapped around a heavy
duty cardboard tube.
Ya, I just sell what others catch. I have no interest in being up all
night shrimping, then spending my days repairing the boat.

Mikek



This isn't a place with very many posts, and I'd guess I don't even see
90% of them.

amdx[_3_] September 19th 15 10:54 PM

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On 9/19/2015 4:50 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 9/19/15 5:05 PM, amdx wrote:
On 9/19/2015 2:01 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 9/19/15 12:14 PM, amdx wrote:
On 9/19/2015 9:50 AM, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 9/19/2015 10:45 AM, amdx wrote:
On 9/19/2015 7:26 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 9/19/15 7:44 AM, amdx wrote:
On 9/18/2015 5:50 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 9/18/15 6:46 PM, amdx wrote:
On 9/17/2015 7:22 PM, Alex wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
Don't try this at home...

https://youtu.be/UoTolRwyy2s

Those thrusters must be incredibly powerful.


They churned up a lot of mud. They did it without a pilot, too.
Must be
a regular route for that ferry.


All right, that's about enough boat stuff,
you're messing with FOADs Newsgroup for Denigrating
Conservatives.

Mikek



Nah. I don't read posts from most of the occupants of the
right-wing
clown car here, and those occupants include Whine and Gunboy Alex.


I said nothing about what you read.
I was referring to the life you live, devoted to writing
denigrating
posts about conservatives on rec.boats.
Did you ever think about getting out of your easy chair and doing
something constructive?
54 out of the 100 posts on my reader are your started by you.
It would be no surprise that 93% of them are written to disparage
conservatives.
Your life is out of control, take a step back, no better take a
long
walk back and see just what your life has become.
Again, get out of that chair.

Sincerely, Mikek



Go catch a few shrimp, Mikey.

Oh you mean, do something rather than set in a chair?
Just for fun and exercise, I was up at 5am, swam 2 miles in 1.5 hrs,
Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday, dropped down to a little over a mile
on Thursday, plus I walked over 2 miles everyday.
Get out of your chair FOAD. You're in a rut.
Mikek

At least he didn't suggest you do something illegal, immoral, or
fattening, as Krause is wont to do.

Ya, he's confused, I don't catch them, I sell them. Sold about 50lbs
in the last 3 hrs, it has slowed down since school started, tourists
are
gone, snowbirds haven't arrived. Getting a little more free time now,
not enough to set in a chair like FOAD though!
Mikek


My mistake. I thought you were part of the Bubba Gump enterprise, in
that you trolled or cast netted the shrimp you sold. But you're just a
fishmonger.


Yep, Just a fishmonger, but it's been good to us.
I'll retire with comfort.

I've been working my butt off the last few weeks, digging edging
trenches for my wife's endless "garden areas," trimming trees, shaping
Nellie Hollies, spreading mulch, and this morning I dropped a dead 70'
tree behind the back yard and chainsawed it into 4' lengths I could dump
in the woods for the woodpeckers.

Yet you still have time to make 54% of the posts on rec.boats. You are
simply amazing.

That's a bit more exercise than sitting on the edge of a dock, dumping a
few pounds of shrimp into plastic bags with ice.


Ya I wish that was all, It is lifting and moving 45 lb to 75 lb
coolers loaded with shrimp and ice that is the work. The good part that
is only about about 15% of the time.

I used to enjoy castnetting for bait -shrimp and pogies- when we lived
in Florida. Can you toss a castnet or do you just sell what others
catch?


Very little recreational shrimping in our area, I read and hear they do
in other areas. I guess our bay is not conducive to it.
Nah, I've tried cast netting a few times, didn't practice enough to
get consistent throws. I'm just not that interested, I don't fish, to
boring. My wife did catch a redfish that had been hanging around the
boat for a few days. She caught it on fishline wrapped around a heavy
duty cardboard tube.
Ya, I just sell what others catch. I have no interest in being up all
night shrimping, then spending my days repairing the boat.

Mikek



This isn't a place with very many posts, and I'd guess I don't even see
90% of them.


You never seem to miss any of mine!
Your always ready with some negative drivel.
Mikek

PS. I don't believe your (90%) response.

Keyser Söze September 19th 15 11:19 PM

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On 9/19/15 5:54 PM, amdx wrote:
On 9/19/2015 4:50 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 9/19/15 5:05 PM, amdx wrote:
On 9/19/2015 2:01 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 9/19/15 12:14 PM, amdx wrote:
On 9/19/2015 9:50 AM, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 9/19/2015 10:45 AM, amdx wrote:
On 9/19/2015 7:26 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 9/19/15 7:44 AM, amdx wrote:
On 9/18/2015 5:50 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 9/18/15 6:46 PM, amdx wrote:
On 9/17/2015 7:22 PM, Alex wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
Don't try this at home...

https://youtu.be/UoTolRwyy2s

Those thrusters must be incredibly powerful.


They churned up a lot of mud. They did it without a pilot,
too.
Must be
a regular route for that ferry.


All right, that's about enough boat stuff,
you're messing with FOADs Newsgroup for Denigrating
Conservatives.

Mikek



Nah. I don't read posts from most of the occupants of the
right-wing
clown car here, and those occupants include Whine and Gunboy
Alex.


I said nothing about what you read.
I was referring to the life you live, devoted to writing
denigrating
posts about conservatives on rec.boats.
Did you ever think about getting out of your easy chair and
doing
something constructive?
54 out of the 100 posts on my reader are your started by you.
It would be no surprise that 93% of them are written to disparage
conservatives.
Your life is out of control, take a step back, no better take a
long
walk back and see just what your life has become.
Again, get out of that chair.

Sincerely, Mikek



Go catch a few shrimp, Mikey.

Oh you mean, do something rather than set in a chair?
Just for fun and exercise, I was up at 5am, swam 2 miles in 1.5 hrs,
Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday, dropped down to a little over a mile
on Thursday, plus I walked over 2 miles everyday.
Get out of your chair FOAD. You're in a rut.
Mikek

At least he didn't suggest you do something illegal, immoral, or
fattening, as Krause is wont to do.

Ya, he's confused, I don't catch them, I sell them. Sold about 50lbs
in the last 3 hrs, it has slowed down since school started, tourists
are
gone, snowbirds haven't arrived. Getting a little more free time now,
not enough to set in a chair like FOAD though!
Mikek


My mistake. I thought you were part of the Bubba Gump enterprise, in
that you trolled or cast netted the shrimp you sold. But you're just a
fishmonger.


Yep, Just a fishmonger, but it's been good to us.
I'll retire with comfort.

I've been working my butt off the last few weeks, digging edging
trenches for my wife's endless "garden areas," trimming trees, shaping
Nellie Hollies, spreading mulch, and this morning I dropped a dead 70'
tree behind the back yard and chainsawed it into 4' lengths I could
dump
in the woods for the woodpeckers.

Yet you still have time to make 54% of the posts on rec.boats. You are
simply amazing.

That's a bit more exercise than sitting on the edge of a dock,
dumping a
few pounds of shrimp into plastic bags with ice.


Ya I wish that was all, It is lifting and moving 45 lb to 75 lb
coolers loaded with shrimp and ice that is the work. The good part that
is only about about 15% of the time.

I used to enjoy castnetting for bait -shrimp and pogies- when we lived
in Florida. Can you toss a castnet or do you just sell what others
catch?

Very little recreational shrimping in our area, I read and hear they do
in other areas. I guess our bay is not conducive to it.
Nah, I've tried cast netting a few times, didn't practice enough to
get consistent throws. I'm just not that interested, I don't fish, to
boring. My wife did catch a redfish that had been hanging around the
boat for a few days. She caught it on fishline wrapped around a heavy
duty cardboard tube.
Ya, I just sell what others catch. I have no interest in being up all
night shrimping, then spending my days repairing the boat.

Mikek



This isn't a place with very many posts, and I'd guess I don't even see
90% of them.


You never seem to miss any of mine!
Your always ready with some negative drivel.
Mikek

PS. I don't believe your (90%) response.



Actually, I skip over some of yours, just as I skip over some of the
posts of those whose posts I do see or read.

Most of the posters here are in my bozo bin, typically because about all
they do here is insult other posters. There are I would guess about a
half dozen posters here whose posts I read with any regularity.

I read posts from JPS (not a frequent poster), Don, you, Greg, Tim,
Luddite, some of what Calif Bill posts, very few posts from Herring. I
don't read posts from permanent bozo binners such as FlaJim, W'hine,
Alex, topbassdog, slammer, earl, roger, george c.boater, and a couple of
others. They post nothing worth reading.

I'm a very fast writer. Usually takes me less than a minute to post a
response here. Not sure it is worth any more time. If I want to waste
more significant amounts of time, I have a lot of friends on Facebook
whose posts are a lot more informative, funnier, and less personally
insulting to anyone than the garbage here. I have no interest in golf,
RVs, garage doors, private planes, et cetera.

And before you comment, remember, I have repeatedly posted that I'm sort
of still here just to be present on the day rec.boats slides into the
slime soup.

amdx[_3_] September 19th 15 11:26 PM

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On 9/19/2015 5:19 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:

And before you comment, remember, I have repeatedly posted that I'm sort
of still here just to be present on the day rec.boats slides into the
slime soup.


Tell us why.

Mikek




Wayne.B September 20th 15 02:11 AM

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On Sat, 19 Sep 2015 17:26:03 -0500, amdx wrote:

On 9/19/2015 5:19 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:

And before you comment, remember, I have repeatedly posted that I'm sort
of still here just to be present on the day rec.boats slides into the
slime soup.


Tell us why.

Mikek



===

crickets

[email protected] September 20th 15 07:05 AM

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On Sat, 19 Sep 2015 15:01:49 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

I've been working my butt off the last few weeks, digging edging
trenches for my wife's endless "garden areas," trimming trees, shaping
Nellie Hollies, spreading mulch, and this morning I dropped a dead 70'
tree behind the back yard and chainsawed it into 4' lengths I could dump
in the woods for the woodpeckers.


I am cutting up an old orange tree this weekend.

Wayne.B September 20th 15 02:13 PM

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On Sun, 20 Sep 2015 02:05:05 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 19 Sep 2015 15:01:49 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

I've been working my butt off the last few weeks, digging edging
trenches for my wife's endless "garden areas," trimming trees, shaping
Nellie Hollies, spreading mulch, and this morning I dropped a dead 70'
tree behind the back yard and chainsawed it into 4' lengths I could dump
in the woods for the woodpeckers.


I am cutting up an old orange tree this weekend.


===

I'm running in the wiring for a solar panel project on the trawer. The
goal is to have (8) 100 watt flexible panels on top of the flybridge
enclosure which will feed a MPPT charge controller in the engine room.
If it all turns out as planned we should be able to leave the boat at
anchor during the day without running the generator.

Keyser Söze September 20th 15 03:50 PM

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On 9/20/15 2:05 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 19 Sep 2015 15:01:49 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

I've been working my butt off the last few weeks, digging edging
trenches for my wife's endless "garden areas," trimming trees, shaping
Nellie Hollies, spreading mulch, and this morning I dropped a dead 70'
tree behind the back yard and chainsawed it into 4' lengths I could dump
in the woods for the woodpeckers.


I am cutting up an old orange tree this weekend.


What happens with "old" orange trees? Do they stop producing? My wife's
grandmother had a few old citrus trees in her backyard (St. Pete), and
they were still producing fruit...and still are, as far as I know.

[email protected] September 20th 15 05:07 PM

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On Sun, 20 Sep 2015 10:50:01 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 9/20/15 2:05 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 19 Sep 2015 15:01:49 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

I've been working my butt off the last few weeks, digging edging
trenches for my wife's endless "garden areas," trimming trees, shaping
Nellie Hollies, spreading mulch, and this morning I dropped a dead 70'
tree behind the back yard and chainsawed it into 4' lengths I could dump
in the woods for the woodpeckers.


I am cutting up an old orange tree this weekend.


What happens with "old" orange trees? Do they stop producing? My wife's
grandmother had a few old citrus trees in her backyard (St. Pete), and
they were still producing fruit...and still are, as far as I know.


They will stop after a while, typically 30 years or so but this one
was sour oranges anyway and it was only a rat feeder.
It was a pretty tree but now I have a wild acorn grown oak tree that
is going to take it's place.
When I moved here we had 20-30 citrus trees and they have been going
away a few at a time for 30 years. This is the last one.

[email protected] September 20th 15 05:09 PM

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On Sun, 20 Sep 2015 09:13:03 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Sep 2015 02:05:05 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 19 Sep 2015 15:01:49 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

I've been working my butt off the last few weeks, digging edging
trenches for my wife's endless "garden areas," trimming trees, shaping
Nellie Hollies, spreading mulch, and this morning I dropped a dead 70'
tree behind the back yard and chainsawed it into 4' lengths I could dump
in the woods for the woodpeckers.


I am cutting up an old orange tree this weekend.


===

I'm running in the wiring for a solar panel project on the trawer. The
goal is to have (8) 100 watt flexible panels on top of the flybridge
enclosure which will feed a MPPT charge controller in the engine room.
If it all turns out as planned we should be able to leave the boat at
anchor during the day without running the generator.


Sounds like the perfect application for solar. I like solar but I have
a hard time justifying it for most things. Although this orange tree
is not involved, most of this tear's tree trimming is to improve my
solar performance for the pool/spa collectors.

Wayne.B September 20th 15 05:24 PM

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On Sun, 20 Sep 2015 12:09:42 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 20 Sep 2015 09:13:03 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Sep 2015 02:05:05 -0400,
wrote:

On Sat, 19 Sep 2015 15:01:49 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

I've been working my butt off the last few weeks, digging edging
trenches for my wife's endless "garden areas," trimming trees, shaping
Nellie Hollies, spreading mulch, and this morning I dropped a dead 70'
tree behind the back yard and chainsawed it into 4' lengths I could dump
in the woods for the woodpeckers.

I am cutting up an old orange tree this weekend.


===

I'm running in the wiring for a solar panel project on the trawer. The
goal is to have (8) 100 watt flexible panels on top of the flybridge
enclosure which will feed a MPPT charge controller in the engine room.
If it all turns out as planned we should be able to leave the boat at
anchor during the day without running the generator.


Sounds like the perfect application for solar. I like solar but I have
a hard time justifying it for most things. Although this orange tree
is not involved, most of this tear's tree trimming is to improve my
solar performance for the pool/spa collectors.


===

We have fairly reasonable electric rates here and also high
consumption, all of which makes it harder to justify solar electric
for your house. When panel prices become comparable with shingles,
that will be the time to seriously think about it.

It's just about ideal for boats however, especially now that the price
of panels has come way down and efficiency has gone up. Sailors have
been using wind generators for a long time but they are noisy and high
maintenance. There have also been some notable accidents where people
have come into contact with the spinning blades.

Justan Olphart[_2_] September 20th 15 06:08 PM

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On 9/20/2015 1:13 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 9/20/2015 12:24 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 20 Sep 2015 12:09:42 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 20 Sep 2015 09:13:03 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Sep 2015 02:05:05 -0400,
wrote:

On Sat, 19 Sep 2015 15:01:49 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

I've been working my butt off the last few weeks, digging edging
trenches for my wife's endless "garden areas," trimming trees,
shaping
Nellie Hollies, spreading mulch, and this morning I dropped a dead
70'
tree behind the back yard and chainsawed it into 4' lengths I
could dump
in the woods for the woodpeckers.

I am cutting up an old orange tree this weekend.

===

I'm running in the wiring for a solar panel project on the trawer. The
goal is to have (8) 100 watt flexible panels on top of the flybridge
enclosure which will feed a MPPT charge controller in the engine room.
If it all turns out as planned we should be able to leave the boat at
anchor during the day without running the generator.

Sounds like the perfect application for solar. I like solar but I have
a hard time justifying it for most things. Although this orange tree
is not involved, most of this tear's tree trimming is to improve my
solar performance for the pool/spa collectors.


===

We have fairly reasonable electric rates here and also high
consumption, all of which makes it harder to justify solar electric
for your house. When panel prices become comparable with shingles,
that will be the time to seriously think about it.

It's just about ideal for boats however, especially now that the price
of panels has come way down and efficiency has gone up. Sailors have
been using wind generators for a long time but they are noisy and high
maintenance. There have also been some notable accidents where people
have come into contact with the spinning blades.


You guys have reminded me of a weird problem I had with one of the Class
C RV's we had. It was a Chinook Glacier and the problem was
compounded by how the charging systems was set up. It had dual
batteries, one for the engine and chassis electrical systems and
the other dedicated as a "house" battery for the camper/RV systems.
It also had an inverter/battery charger that ran when connected to
"shore power" and also had a solar panel charging system integrated
to the electrical controls. It was supposed to keep your batteries
on a "trickle" charge during daylight hours. To make the whole thing
more confusing, the RV also had one of those "smart" electronic battery
switches that automatically switched the charging systems to the battery
with the lowest voltage. With all that in mind, here's what happened:

Everything was fine for a while but then one day after the RV had sat
unused (and not connected to any external power source) for a couple of
weeks, I tried to start it only to find the main battery was dead.
Wouldn't turn over. The house battery seemed to be ok. Put a charger
on the main battery and got the RV running. Then, a week later it was
dead again. Thought I had a bad battery, although the RV was brand
new. I took it back to the dealer and they checked it all out.
Said there was nothing wrong ... the charging systems, including the
solar panel, were working fine.

Went home. Few days later the main battery is dead again. I got very
curious as to what was going on so I started troubleshooting. At one
point I put a multimeter in series with the main battery negative cable
to measure any unusual parasitic current flow other than that required
for the radio preset memory, etc. I noticed that the battery was
actually charging slightly .. due to the solar panel system. This also
meant that the house battery was higher in voltage than the engine battery.

But then, as I monitored the meter and was thinking about it, a dark,
heavy cloud temporarily blocked the direct sunlight. The current flow
displayed on the meter *reversed*. Instead of charging, it was
discharging. When the cloud passed, the current flow reversed again and
it was charging. I watched this happen a few times as clouds passed by.
Then I got a tarp and covered the solar panel on the RV roof. Battery
immediately started discharging. Took the tarp off and the current flow
polarity reversed and it started charging.

Got the schematics for the solar panel charging system. Very basic
system. There was a diode in the circuit that only allows current flow
one way (charging). It's unusual, but it had failed in a shorted mode.
When this happens, the panel can act as a radiator as well ...
especially at night .. and discharges the battery energy off to the
black body of night space. Replaced the diode and all was well.


And you accomplished something that factory hands on support couldn't.
Youse a pretty smart fella.

Mr. Luddite September 20th 15 06:13 PM

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On 9/20/2015 12:24 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 20 Sep 2015 12:09:42 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 20 Sep 2015 09:13:03 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Sep 2015 02:05:05 -0400,
wrote:

On Sat, 19 Sep 2015 15:01:49 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

I've been working my butt off the last few weeks, digging edging
trenches for my wife's endless "garden areas," trimming trees, shaping
Nellie Hollies, spreading mulch, and this morning I dropped a dead 70'
tree behind the back yard and chainsawed it into 4' lengths I could dump
in the woods for the woodpeckers.

I am cutting up an old orange tree this weekend.

===

I'm running in the wiring for a solar panel project on the trawer. The
goal is to have (8) 100 watt flexible panels on top of the flybridge
enclosure which will feed a MPPT charge controller in the engine room.
If it all turns out as planned we should be able to leave the boat at
anchor during the day without running the generator.


Sounds like the perfect application for solar. I like solar but I have
a hard time justifying it for most things. Although this orange tree
is not involved, most of this tear's tree trimming is to improve my
solar performance for the pool/spa collectors.


===

We have fairly reasonable electric rates here and also high
consumption, all of which makes it harder to justify solar electric
for your house. When panel prices become comparable with shingles,
that will be the time to seriously think about it.

It's just about ideal for boats however, especially now that the price
of panels has come way down and efficiency has gone up. Sailors have
been using wind generators for a long time but they are noisy and high
maintenance. There have also been some notable accidents where people
have come into contact with the spinning blades.


You guys have reminded me of a weird problem I had with one of the Class
C RV's we had. It was a Chinook Glacier and the problem was
compounded by how the charging systems was set up. It had dual
batteries, one for the engine and chassis electrical systems and
the other dedicated as a "house" battery for the camper/RV systems.
It also had an inverter/battery charger that ran when connected to
"shore power" and also had a solar panel charging system integrated
to the electrical controls. It was supposed to keep your batteries
on a "trickle" charge during daylight hours. To make the whole thing
more confusing, the RV also had one of those "smart" electronic battery
switches that automatically switched the charging systems to the battery
with the lowest voltage. With all that in mind, here's what happened:

Everything was fine for a while but then one day after the RV had sat
unused (and not connected to any external power source) for a couple of
weeks, I tried to start it only to find the main battery was dead.
Wouldn't turn over. The house battery seemed to be ok. Put a charger
on the main battery and got the RV running. Then, a week later it was
dead again. Thought I had a bad battery, although the RV was brand
new. I took it back to the dealer and they checked it all out.
Said there was nothing wrong ... the charging systems, including the
solar panel, were working fine.

Went home. Few days later the main battery is dead again. I got very
curious as to what was going on so I started troubleshooting. At one
point I put a multimeter in series with the main battery negative cable
to measure any unusual parasitic current flow other than that required
for the radio preset memory, etc. I noticed that the battery was
actually charging slightly .. due to the solar panel system. This also
meant that the house battery was higher in voltage than the engine battery.

But then, as I monitored the meter and was thinking about it, a dark,
heavy cloud temporarily blocked the direct sunlight. The current flow
displayed on the meter *reversed*. Instead of charging, it was
discharging. When the cloud passed, the current flow reversed again and
it was charging. I watched this happen a few times as clouds passed by.
Then I got a tarp and covered the solar panel on the RV roof. Battery
immediately started discharging. Took the tarp off and the current flow
polarity reversed and it started charging.

Got the schematics for the solar panel charging system. Very basic
system. There was a diode in the circuit that only allows current flow
one way (charging). It's unusual, but it had failed in a shorted mode.
When this happens, the panel can act as a radiator as well ...
especially at night .. and discharges the battery energy off to the
black body of night space. Replaced the diode and all was well.



Mr. Luddite September 20th 15 08:25 PM

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On 9/20/2015 1:08 PM, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 9/20/2015 1:13 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 9/20/2015 12:24 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 20 Sep 2015 12:09:42 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 20 Sep 2015 09:13:03 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Sep 2015 02:05:05 -0400,
wrote:

On Sat, 19 Sep 2015 15:01:49 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

I've been working my butt off the last few weeks, digging edging
trenches for my wife's endless "garden areas," trimming trees,
shaping
Nellie Hollies, spreading mulch, and this morning I dropped a dead
70'
tree behind the back yard and chainsawed it into 4' lengths I
could dump
in the woods for the woodpeckers.

I am cutting up an old orange tree this weekend.

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I'm running in the wiring for a solar panel project on the trawer. The
goal is to have (8) 100 watt flexible panels on top of the flybridge
enclosure which will feed a MPPT charge controller in the engine room.
If it all turns out as planned we should be able to leave the boat at
anchor during the day without running the generator.

Sounds like the perfect application for solar. I like solar but I have
a hard time justifying it for most things. Although this orange tree
is not involved, most of this tear's tree trimming is to improve my
solar performance for the pool/spa collectors.

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We have fairly reasonable electric rates here and also high
consumption, all of which makes it harder to justify solar electric
for your house. When panel prices become comparable with shingles,
that will be the time to seriously think about it.

It's just about ideal for boats however, especially now that the price
of panels has come way down and efficiency has gone up. Sailors have
been using wind generators for a long time but they are noisy and high
maintenance. There have also been some notable accidents where people
have come into contact with the spinning blades.


You guys have reminded me of a weird problem I had with one of the Class
C RV's we had. It was a Chinook Glacier and the problem was
compounded by how the charging systems was set up. It had dual
batteries, one for the engine and chassis electrical systems and
the other dedicated as a "house" battery for the camper/RV systems.
It also had an inverter/battery charger that ran when connected to
"shore power" and also had a solar panel charging system integrated
to the electrical controls. It was supposed to keep your batteries
on a "trickle" charge during daylight hours. To make the whole thing
more confusing, the RV also had one of those "smart" electronic battery
switches that automatically switched the charging systems to the battery
with the lowest voltage. With all that in mind, here's what happened:

Everything was fine for a while but then one day after the RV had sat
unused (and not connected to any external power source) for a couple of
weeks, I tried to start it only to find the main battery was dead.
Wouldn't turn over. The house battery seemed to be ok. Put a charger
on the main battery and got the RV running. Then, a week later it was
dead again. Thought I had a bad battery, although the RV was brand
new. I took it back to the dealer and they checked it all out.
Said there was nothing wrong ... the charging systems, including the
solar panel, were working fine.

Went home. Few days later the main battery is dead again. I got very
curious as to what was going on so I started troubleshooting. At one
point I put a multimeter in series with the main battery negative cable
to measure any unusual parasitic current flow other than that required
for the radio preset memory, etc. I noticed that the battery was
actually charging slightly .. due to the solar panel system. This also
meant that the house battery was higher in voltage than the engine
battery.

But then, as I monitored the meter and was thinking about it, a dark,
heavy cloud temporarily blocked the direct sunlight. The current flow
displayed on the meter *reversed*. Instead of charging, it was
discharging. When the cloud passed, the current flow reversed again and
it was charging. I watched this happen a few times as clouds passed by.
Then I got a tarp and covered the solar panel on the RV roof. Battery
immediately started discharging. Took the tarp off and the current flow
polarity reversed and it started charging.

Got the schematics for the solar panel charging system. Very basic
system. There was a diode in the circuit that only allows current flow
one way (charging). It's unusual, but it had failed in a shorted mode.
When this happens, the panel can act as a radiator as well ...
especially at night .. and discharges the battery energy off to the
black body of night space. Replaced the diode and all was well.


And you accomplished something that factory hands on support couldn't.
Youse a pretty smart fella.


I got lucky. The dealer techs were checking things outside during the
day in bright sunshine. All looks normal then. My clue was watching
the meter reading positive current flow, then decreasing as the cloud
starting blocking the sun and then going negative when it was well
blocked. Betcha at night it was very efficient.


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