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Wayne.B September 1st 15 01:06 AM

Virginia shooting
 
On Mon, 31 Aug 2015 19:54:59 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

If a 9mm round starts costing a buck to shoot and the Glock that you
fire it with has a 40%-60% federal tax applied when you buy it, the
number of people interested in owning guns is going to drop like a rock.


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The guys I shoot with would have no problem paying a substantial
excise tax. Most would go on a buying spree before the tax was
enacted however, and the NRA would have the whole deal in the courts
for years. That's what we pay them for.

Most serious shooters reload their own ammo for pennies a round. These
are not the guys committing gun crimes however so why penalizer them?

[email protected] September 1st 15 02:04 AM

Virginia shooting
 
On Mon, 31 Aug 2015 17:30:52 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote:

In article 2md9uatok5sps897uflah9u5ledsdmrp46@
4ax.com, says...

On Mon, 31 Aug 2015 13:55:58 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

The murder rate in Australia is about 1 per 100,000, while it is more
than four times that in the United States. Are you claiming the lower
rate down under has nothing to do with that country's tougher gun
control laws?



BTW I am still waiting

What is the outline of the law you would pass?
Explain how it saves those two TV people.,

Assassinating two people from 5 feet away could easily be done with a
single action cap and ball revolver and still have plenty of rounds
left over to wound the other lady as she ran away.


Shame guns away. You're a fine example. Who but a
gun nut - full of gun nut violence - would propose a
method of murdering innocent people?
Shame on you!
All of you gun-owners are weak. Just a matter of
getting the word out.
The tally of innocent people murdered ever increases.
Just so you have the right to plink. Think about it.



I have thought about it. You want to strip a constitutional right from
100,000,000 people because several thousand are not deserving. Most of
them are already breaking the law, simply by having a gun.

[email protected] September 1st 15 02:14 AM

Virginia shooting
 
On Mon, 31 Aug 2015 19:35:15 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/31/15 7:24 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 31 Aug 2015 16:52:51 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/31/15 4:27 PM,
wrote:
On Mon, 31 Aug 2015 13:55:58 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

The murder rate in Australia is about 1 per 100,000, while it is more
than four times that in the United States. Are you claiming the lower
rate down under has nothing to do with that country's tougher gun
control laws?


BTW I am still waiting

What is the outline of the law you would pass?
Explain how it saves those two TV people.,

Assassinating two people from 5 feet away could easily be done with a
single action cap and ball revolver and still have plenty of rounds
left over to wound the other lady as she ran away.


For starters, and I mean starters:

Licensing for anyone who wants to own a firearm, including a serious
background check and a 14-day waiting period.


That would not have affected this case nor most of the others.


Severe restrictions on the types of firearms that can be purchased.


See above


Confiscation with compensation/tax credits of all firearms after a
certain date that are not on the approved list.


Perhaps OK if the compensation is "just"

Possession of unapproved firearms a felony.

It already is.


Confiscated firearms turned to scrap.


These days they usually are.


All guns owners required to purchase and maintain a multi-million dollar
liability policy that pays the victims or victims' families for deaths
or injuries caused by the firearms. No proof of insurance, no purchase
of firearms. Insurance lapses? Firearms must be turned in for destruction.


How much do you carry now?


Starters, as I stated.

I might have to turn in my AR15. No biggie. Firearms to me are a hobby,
like stamp collecting and model railroading.


You would be OK if they said your AR was worth $50?
In real life, if they are coming, they would want your LEs and your
wheel guns too. Guys like BAO and JPS see little difference.
How happy would you be when they chipped up your pristine SAs and gave
you a $50 for them?





I love your plan: "Don't do anything because, well, we can't do
anything, and therefore we shouldn't do anything because, well, we can't
do anything."

That's your plan, right?


I asked you what you would do and none of it would have stopped most
(if any) of these mass murders. Maybe there is nothing we can do on
the "gun" side. The answer is on the mental health side.
Why not work on the problem of why people want to kill? It is
ridiculous to think you can simply pass a law and fix that.
I always hear about Sweden and Japan but nobody points out they also
have far fewer stabbings, strangulations and blunt force murders.

We have a far more violent culture and where the violence is the
worst, political correctness will not let us identify why.


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