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Thank you Mr. Trump ...
.... for adding some excitement, fun and reason for interest in this election cycle. Just think what it would be like without you. This is hilarious. Trump was just addressing the media before his town hall event in NH. He has total control over them while Hillary avoids them or answers questions with pre-planned, canned responses. Even old Chris Matthews is flabbergasted but impressed by Trump and his ability to take control of an adversarial press, all trying to be the first to trip up the Donald. He's demonstrating something we haven't seen for a while. Many may not like it but it's called "in your face", confident leadership. Lawyers go to school for years to try to learn how to project that image. Trump does it naturally. |
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On Wed, 19 Aug 2015 19:31:07 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: He's demonstrating something we haven't seen for a while. Many may not like it but it's called "in your face", confident leadership. Lawyers go to school for years to try to learn how to project that image. Trump does it naturally. It's actually a little scary IMHO. Leadership is only a good quality when it's used in a responsible manner. If you have doubts look no further than Germany in the early 1930s. http://www.historytoday.com/ian-kershaw/hitler-myth |
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On Wed, 19 Aug 2015 21:02:36 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote: Wait, you working for HRC? === Not at all. I've seen enough of Trump throughout his career however to know that I don't want him in a position of national leadership. He has the personality of an arrogant bully and no scruples what so ever. |
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On Wed, 19 Aug 2015 22:13:26 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote: He has the personality of an arrogant bully and no scruples what so ever. Sounds like he should be running as a democrat. He could be another Clinton or Kennedy. |
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On 8/19/2015 10:13 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 19 Aug 2015 21:02:36 -0500, Boating All Out wrote: Wait, you working for HRC? === Not at all. I've seen enough of Trump throughout his career however to know that I don't want him in a position of national leadership. He has the personality of an arrogant bully and no scruples what so ever. Wayne, I have always felt that way about Trump also however I am beginning to see someone else behind his business reputation and bluster. Not totally convinced yet but he *could* be exactly what the doctor ordered at this point in history. Ironically, he's not totally a right-winger. Some of his expressed views are downright liberal. One thing is for sure. You don't have to guess where he stands which is refreshing. I was laughing out loud at how he handled some of the biased media questions. Trump didn't insult them. He made mincemeat of them in a humorous way. This country needs a strong willed leader, not a wishy-washy politician responsive to polls only. |
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On 8/19/2015 11:44 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article codatadg6ogu4nhr6jdfjufkm85nh9cgei@ 4ax.com, says... On Wed, 19 Aug 2015 21:02:36 -0500, Boating All Out wrote: Wait, you working for HRC? === Not at all. I've seen enough of Trump throughout his career however to know that I don't want him in a position of national leadership. He has the personality of an arrogant bully and no scruples what so ever. How's that different from any other President? He's got something else. He's a doer. And a salesman. You don't think he can rebuild our airports and bridges? And fix anything else he deems a priority? I think he'll get more done than anyone else running. So what if he steps on plenty of toes? Scruples take care of themselves with our system of government, especially Presidential scruples. And he'll sell "the people" on most of what he wants to do. I question Wayne's assertion that Trump has no scruples. I think he has some very strong beliefs and is willing to do what it takes to apply them. He has a reputation of being aggressive in business dealings, a hard negotiator and someone who gets results. Those are not necessarily bad virtues. You have to look in his wake (boating reference) to see if he viciously hurt or took advantage of innocent people in the process of doing what he does. He competes ... hard ... but so does his competition. There really haven't been any negative personal reports or complaints. Even the people who have worked for him and his ex wives have positive things to say about him as a person. |
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On 8/20/2015 1:08 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article Eb6dna7b6omnxUjInZ2dnUU7- , says... I question Wayne's assertion that Trump has no scruples. Depends on your definition of "scruples." He's a birther. A birther. So he's either insane, or doesn't believe what he's been saying. He'll have to own up, retract and apologize for his birther claims to get my vote. Otherwise I consider him insane and can't vote for him. The "press" should be hitting him hard on that instead of wearing kid gloves. I have no idea why they aren't on that like flies on ****. But they'll get there eventually. They tried. His response? "I don't want to talk about that" . Next question? |
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On 8/20/15 5:07 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 8/20/2015 1:08 AM, Boating All Out wrote: In article Eb6dna7b6omnxUjInZ2dnUU7- , says... I question Wayne's assertion that Trump has no scruples. Depends on your definition of "scruples." He's a birther. A birther. So he's either insane, or doesn't believe what he's been saying. He'll have to own up, retract and apologize for his birther claims to get my vote. Otherwise I consider him insane and can't vote for him. The "press" should be hitting him hard on that instead of wearing kid gloves. I have no idea why they aren't on that like flies on ****. But they'll get there eventually. They tried. His response? "I don't want to talk about that" . Next question? Wow...you're really getting behind Trump. How disappointing. |
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On 8/20/15 1:08 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article Eb6dna7b6omnxUjInZ2dnUU7- , says... I question Wayne's assertion that Trump has no scruples. Depends on your definition of "scruples." He's a birther. A birther. So he's either insane, or doesn't believe what he's been saying. He'll have to own up, retract and apologize for his birther claims to get my vote. Otherwise I consider him insane and can't vote for him. The "press" should be hitting him hard on that instead of wearing kid gloves. I have no idea why they aren't on that like flies on ****. But they'll get there eventually. Trump thinks he is America's answer to Putin. He sounds like a dictator and the Republican base loves him for his outrageous positions and statements. In the end, he is going to cost the GOP the general election, because he is pushing the other Republican candidates even further to the right. More power to him: the destruction of the modern, mindless, hate-filled GOP is in America's interest. |
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On 8/20/2015 1:08 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article Eb6dna7b6omnxUjInZ2dnUU7- , says... I question Wayne's assertion that Trump has no scruples. Depends on your definition of "scruples." He's a birther. A birther. So he's either insane, or doesn't believe what he's been saying. He'll have to own up, retract and apologize for his birther claims to get my vote. Otherwise I consider him insane and can't vote for him. The "press" should be hitting him hard on that instead of wearing kid gloves. I have no idea why they aren't on that like flies on ****. But they'll get there eventually. http://birthers.org/ What is it about birthers that frightens you? -- Respectfully submitted by Justan Laugh of the day from Krause "I'm not to blame anymore for the atmosphere in here. I've been "born again" as a nice guy." |
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On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 00:31:50 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: On 8/19/2015 11:44 PM, Boating All Out wrote: In article codatadg6ogu4nhr6jdfjufkm85nh9cgei@ 4ax.com, says... On Wed, 19 Aug 2015 21:02:36 -0500, Boating All Out wrote: Wait, you working for HRC? === Not at all. I've seen enough of Trump throughout his career however to know that I don't want him in a position of national leadership. He has the personality of an arrogant bully and no scruples what so ever. How's that different from any other President? He's got something else. He's a doer. And a salesman. You don't think he can rebuild our airports and bridges? And fix anything else he deems a priority? I think he'll get more done than anyone else running. So what if he steps on plenty of toes? Scruples take care of themselves with our system of government, especially Presidential scruples. And he'll sell "the people" on most of what he wants to do. I question Wayne's assertion that Trump has no scruples. I think he has some very strong beliefs and is willing to do what it takes to apply them. He has a reputation of being aggressive in business dealings, a hard negotiator and someone who gets results. Those are not necessarily bad virtues. You have to look in his wake (boating reference) to see if he viciously hurt or took advantage of innocent people in the process of doing what he does. He competes ... hard ... but so does his competition. There really haven't been any negative personal reports or complaints. Even the people who have worked for him and his ex wives have positive things to say about him as a person. === In rebuttal I would submit the following as a prime example: http://articles.philly.com/1991-10-04/business/25813811_1_donald-trump-taj-marvin-b-roffman http://www.nytimes.com/1991/03/06/business/dismissed-in-trump-case-analyst-is-awarded-750000.html The court records are sealed on many of the Donald's fiascos and silence has been bought with others. |
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On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 00:20:02 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: This country needs a strong willed leader, not a wishy-washy politician responsive to polls only. === I agree with you on that that but Trump is not the right guy in my opinion. To borrow your metaphor, his wake is filled with debris, both personal and professional. Google up the story of Marvin B. Roffman if you want to get an unvarnished glimpse of Trump's character and his methods. Roffman was a securities analyst who wrote an accurate and prescient report on the negative outlook for Trump's casino in Atlantic City. Trump successfully pressured Roffman's employer into firing him. Is that really the kind of guy you want leading the country? |
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On Wed, 19 Aug 2015 22:44:40 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote: In article codatadg6ogu4nhr6jdfjufkm85nh9cgei@ 4ax.com, says... On Wed, 19 Aug 2015 21:02:36 -0500, Boating All Out wrote: Wait, you working for HRC? === Not at all. I've seen enough of Trump throughout his career however to know that I don't want him in a position of national leadership. He has the personality of an arrogant bully and no scruples what so ever. How's that different from any other President? He's got something else. He's a doer. And a salesman. You don't think he can rebuild our airports and bridges? And fix anything else he deems a priority? I think he'll get more done than anyone else running. So what if he steps on plenty of toes? Scruples take care of themselves with our system of government, especially Presidential scruples. And he'll sell "the people" on most of what he wants to do. Maybe he should be Secretary of Transportation. |
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On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 00:08:31 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote: In article Eb6dna7b6omnxUjInZ2dnUU7- , says... I question Wayne's assertion that Trump has no scruples. Depends on your definition of "scruples." He's a birther. A birther. So he's either insane, or doesn't believe what he's been saying. He'll have to own up, retract and apologize for his birther claims to get my vote. Otherwise I consider him insane and can't vote for him. The "press" should be hitting him hard on that instead of wearing kid gloves. I have no idea why they aren't on that like flies on ****. But they'll get there eventually. I suspect they want to build him up more before they take him down. He does still have the teaser of a billion in ads he will buy tho. Has anyone explained that he will have to step away from "Trump inc" if he is president? That doesn't just mean Ivanka runs it and talks to him 3 times a day. |
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On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 10:28:06 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote: Roffman was a securities analyst who wrote an accurate and prescient report on the negative outlook for Trump's casino in Atlantic City. Trump successfully pressured Roffman's employer into firing him. Is that really the kind of guy you want leading the country? It sounds like any number of presidents past and present along with a few of the candidates ... both of the women. |
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In article rqOdnd5L9rNIBUjInZ2dnUU7-
, says... On 8/20/2015 1:08 AM, Boating All Out wrote: In article Eb6dna7b6omnxUjInZ2dnUU7- , says... I question Wayne's assertion that Trump has no scruples. Depends on your definition of "scruples." He's a birther. A birther. So he's either insane, or doesn't believe what he's been saying. He'll have to own up, retract and apologize for his birther claims to get my vote. Otherwise I consider him insane and can't vote for him. The "press" should be hitting him hard on that instead of wearing kid gloves. I have no idea why they aren't on that like flies on ****. But they'll get there eventually. They tried. His response? "I don't want to talk about that" . Next question? Too bad. I don't give a **** that he doesn't want to talk about it. He's still a birther, until he recants. It's inexcusable to have that on your rap sheet. Apologize Trump. Or get lost. I'm not sure an apology will suffice, so I can't take a vow to forgive him if he apologizes. I'm going to leave the "no vote" option open. Depends on whether he treats me fairly. I get to decide on that. |
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On 8/20/2015 10:28 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 00:20:02 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: This country needs a strong willed leader, not a wishy-washy politician responsive to polls only. === I agree with you on that that but Trump is not the right guy in my opinion. To borrow your metaphor, his wake is filled with debris, both personal and professional. Google up the story of Marvin B. Roffman if you want to get an unvarnished glimpse of Trump's character and his methods. Roffman was a securities analyst who wrote an accurate and prescient report on the negative outlook for Trump's casino in Atlantic City. Trump successfully pressured Roffman's employer into firing him. Is that really the kind of guy you want leading the country? I cannot excuse that assuming the analyst was doing his job and did it honestly and accurately. Pure revengeful bully tactics. The Donald is a strange Duck though. He readily admits to participating in quid pro quo arrangements and, with the same breath, admits that it's wrong. |
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On 8/20/15 2:52 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article rqOdnd5L9rNIBUjInZ2dnUU7- , says... On 8/20/2015 1:08 AM, Boating All Out wrote: In article Eb6dna7b6omnxUjInZ2dnUU7- , says... I question Wayne's assertion that Trump has no scruples. Depends on your definition of "scruples." He's a birther. A birther. So he's either insane, or doesn't believe what he's been saying. He'll have to own up, retract and apologize for his birther claims to get my vote. Otherwise I consider him insane and can't vote for him. The "press" should be hitting him hard on that instead of wearing kid gloves. I have no idea why they aren't on that like flies on ****. But they'll get there eventually. They tried. His response? "I don't want to talk about that" . Next question? Too bad. I don't give a **** that he doesn't want to talk about it. He's still a birther, until he recants. It's inexcusable to have that on your rap sheet. Apologize Trump. Or get lost. I'm not sure an apology will suffice, so I can't take a vow to forgive him if he apologizes. I'm going to leave the "no vote" option open. Depends on whether he treats me fairly. I get to decide on that. Trump has picked up a few fans in rec.boats. No surprise. |
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On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 13:52:28 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote: In article rqOdnd5L9rNIBUjInZ2dnUU7- , says... On 8/20/2015 1:08 AM, Boating All Out wrote: In article Eb6dna7b6omnxUjInZ2dnUU7- , says... I question Wayne's assertion that Trump has no scruples. Depends on your definition of "scruples." He's a birther. A birther. So he's either insane, or doesn't believe what he's been saying. He'll have to own up, retract and apologize for his birther claims to get my vote. Otherwise I consider him insane and can't vote for him. The "press" should be hitting him hard on that instead of wearing kid gloves. I have no idea why they aren't on that like flies on ****. But they'll get there eventually. They tried. His response? "I don't want to talk about that" . Next question? Too bad. I don't give a **** that he doesn't want to talk about it. He's still a birther, until he recants. It's inexcusable to have that on your rap sheet. Apologize Trump. Or get lost. I'm not sure an apology will suffice, so I can't take a vow to forgive him if he apologizes. I'm going to leave the "no vote" option open. Depends on whether he treats me fairly. I get to decide on that. Isn't "birther" an old story. As Hillary says, what difference does it make? Look at the stupid things he says he wants to do, not the dumb stuff he said a few years ago. |
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On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 15:23:10 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: On 8/20/2015 10:28 AM, Wayne.B wrote: On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 00:20:02 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: This country needs a strong willed leader, not a wishy-washy politician responsive to polls only. === I agree with you on that that but Trump is not the right guy in my opinion. To borrow your metaphor, his wake is filled with debris, both personal and professional. Google up the story of Marvin B. Roffman if you want to get an unvarnished glimpse of Trump's character and his methods. Roffman was a securities analyst who wrote an accurate and prescient report on the negative outlook for Trump's casino in Atlantic City. Trump successfully pressured Roffman's employer into firing him. Is that really the kind of guy you want leading the country? I cannot excuse that assuming the analyst was doing his job and did it honestly and accurately. Pure revengeful bully tactics. Everyone but The Donald acknowledged that the report was both honest and accurate. As predicted, Trump's casino went bankrupt and left a lot of people holding the bag. Roffman was eventually awarded $750K in damages for his unwarranted termination. The Donald is a strange Duck though. He readily admits to participating in quid pro quo arrangements and, with the same breath, admits that it's wrong. He is a strange SOB and also a scumbag in my opinion. I would not be at all comfortable with him in the Whitehouse. |
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On 8/20/2015 2:52 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article rqOdnd5L9rNIBUjInZ2dnUU7- , says... On 8/20/2015 1:08 AM, Boating All Out wrote: In article Eb6dna7b6omnxUjInZ2dnUU7- , says... I question Wayne's assertion that Trump has no scruples. Depends on your definition of "scruples." He's a birther. A birther. So he's either insane, or doesn't believe what he's been saying. He'll have to own up, retract and apologize for his birther claims to get my vote. Otherwise I consider him insane and can't vote for him. The "press" should be hitting him hard on that instead of wearing kid gloves. I have no idea why they aren't on that like flies on ****. But they'll get there eventually. They tried. His response? "I don't want to talk about that" . Next question? Too bad. I don't give a **** that he doesn't want to talk about it. He's still a birther, until he recants. It's inexcusable to have that on your rap sheet. Apologize Trump. Or get lost. I'm not sure an apology will suffice, so I can't take a vow to forgive him if he apologizes. I'm going to leave the "no vote" option open. Depends on whether he treats me fairly. I get to decide on that. I think you should email him and let him know how you feel. Personally, I don't give a .... . -- Respectfully submitted by Justan Laugh of the day from Krause "I'm not to blame anymore for the atmosphere in here. I've been "born again" as a nice guy." |
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On 8/20/2015 4:19 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 15:23:10 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 8/20/2015 10:28 AM, Wayne.B wrote: On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 00:20:02 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: This country needs a strong willed leader, not a wishy-washy politician responsive to polls only. === I agree with you on that that but Trump is not the right guy in my opinion. To borrow your metaphor, his wake is filled with debris, both personal and professional. Google up the story of Marvin B. Roffman if you want to get an unvarnished glimpse of Trump's character and his methods. Roffman was a securities analyst who wrote an accurate and prescient report on the negative outlook for Trump's casino in Atlantic City. Trump successfully pressured Roffman's employer into firing him. Is that really the kind of guy you want leading the country? I cannot excuse that assuming the analyst was doing his job and did it honestly and accurately. Pure revengeful bully tactics. Everyone but The Donald acknowledged that the report was both honest and accurate. As predicted, Trump's casino went bankrupt and left a lot of people holding the bag. Roffman was eventually awarded $750K in damages for his unwarranted termination. The Donald is a strange Duck though. He readily admits to participating in quid pro quo arrangements and, with the same breath, admits that it's wrong. He is a strange SOB and also a scumbag in my opinion. I would not be at all comfortable with him in the Whitehouse. Are you comfortable now? -- Respectfully submitted by Justan Laugh of the day from Krause "I'm not to blame anymore for the atmosphere in here. I've been "born again" as a nice guy." |
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On 8/20/2015 4:35 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article qocctahn3te6e274kmttctl5sh62h7vdhm@ 4ax.com, says... Isn't "birther" an old story. As Hillary says, what difference does it make? You can get a measure of a man by the cliches - or non-sequiturs - he spouts. That was to you, BTW. Birthers are a special category; they are either fantasists, liars, or racists. Take your pick, of any or all. Of course I spit on them. It won't go away until he owns up to what he is/was, and recants. Look at the stupid things he says he wants to do, not the dumb stuff he said a few years ago. He hasn't said anything. He's just setting up the starting terms of negotiations. It's all negotiable. But not his status as an avowed birther. Birther replaces muslim. Is that such a bad trade? -- Respectfully submitted by Justan Laugh of the day from Krause "I'm not to blame anymore for the atmosphere in here. I've been "born again" as a nice guy." |
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On 8/22/15 11:38 AM, Just wait a frekin' minute! wrote:
wrote: On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 10:28:06 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: Roffman was a securities analyst who wrote an accurate and prescient report on the negative outlook for Trump's casino in Atlantic City. Trump successfully pressured Roffman's employer into firing him. Is that really the kind of guy you want leading the country? It sounds like any number of presidents past and present along with a few of the candidates ... both of the women. I would rather have a president that is bias economically, rather that racially. Well then, Little ****, you're pretty much ****ed, because all the Repugnant wannabes are "bias economically," and most are "bias racially." Better stay home on election day, eh? |
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