On 8/20/2015 1:08 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article Eb6dna7b6omnxUjInZ2dnUU7-
, says...


I question Wayne's assertion that Trump has no
scruples.

Depends on your definition of "scruples."
He's a birther. A birther.
So he's either insane, or doesn't believe what he's
been saying.
He'll have to own up, retract and apologize for his
birther claims to get my vote.
Otherwise I consider him insane and can't vote for
him.
The "press" should be hitting him hard on that
instead of wearing kid gloves.
I have no idea why they aren't on that like flies on
****. But they'll get there eventually.



They tried. His response? "I don't want to talk about that" . Next
question?

On 8/20/15 5:07 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 8/20/2015 1:08 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article Eb6dna7b6omnxUjInZ2dnUU7-
, says...


I question Wayne's assertion that Trump has no
scruples.

Depends on your definition of "scruples."
He's a birther. A birther.
So he's either insane, or doesn't believe what he's
been saying.
He'll have to own up, retract and apologize for his
birther claims to get my vote.
Otherwise I consider him insane and can't vote for
him.
The "press" should be hitting him hard on that
instead of wearing kid gloves.
I have no idea why they aren't on that like flies on
****. But they'll get there eventually.



They tried. His response? "I don't want to talk about that" . Next
question?


Wow...you're really getting behind Trump. How disappointing.

On 8/20/15 1:08 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article Eb6dna7b6omnxUjInZ2dnUU7-
, says...


I question Wayne's assertion that Trump has no
scruples.

Depends on your definition of "scruples."
He's a birther. A birther.
So he's either insane, or doesn't believe what he's
been saying.
He'll have to own up, retract and apologize for his
birther claims to get my vote.
Otherwise I consider him insane and can't vote for
him.
The "press" should be hitting him hard on that
instead of wearing kid gloves.
I have no idea why they aren't on that like flies on
****. But they'll get there eventually.


Trump thinks he is America's answer to Putin. He sounds like a dictator
and the Republican base loves him for his outrageous positions and
statements. In the end, he is going to cost the GOP the general
election, because he is pushing the other Republican candidates even
further to the right. More power to him: the destruction of the modern,
mindless, hate-filled GOP is in America's interest.

On 8/20/2015 1:08 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article Eb6dna7b6omnxUjInZ2dnUU7-
, says...


I question Wayne's assertion that Trump has no
scruples.

Depends on your definition of "scruples."
He's a birther. A birther.
So he's either insane, or doesn't believe what he's
been saying.
He'll have to own up, retract and apologize for his
birther claims to get my vote.
Otherwise I consider him insane and can't vote for
him.
The "press" should be hitting him hard on that
instead of wearing kid gloves.
I have no idea why they aren't on that like flies on
****. But they'll get there eventually.


http://birthers.org/
What is it about birthers that frightens you?

--

Respectfully submitted by Justan

Laugh of the day from Krause

"I'm not to blame anymore for the atmosphere in here.
I've been "born again" as a nice guy."

On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 00:31:50 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 8/19/2015 11:44 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article codatadg6ogu4nhr6jdfjufkm85nh9cgei@
4ax.com, says...

On Wed, 19 Aug 2015 21:02:36 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote:

Wait, you working for HRC?

===

Not at all. I've seen enough of Trump throughout his career however
to know that I don't want him in a position of national leadership. He
has the personality of an arrogant bully and no scruples what so ever.

How's that different from any other President?
He's got something else.
He's a doer. And a salesman.
You don't think he can rebuild our airports and
bridges?
And fix anything else he deems a priority?
I think he'll get more done than anyone else running.
So what if he steps on plenty of toes?
Scruples take care of themselves with our system of
government, especially Presidential scruples.
And he'll sell "the people" on most of what he wants
to do.




I question Wayne's assertion that Trump has no scruples. I think he has
some very strong beliefs and is willing to do what it takes to apply
them. He has a reputation of being aggressive in business dealings, a
hard negotiator and someone who gets results. Those are not necessarily
bad virtues. You have to look in his wake
(boating reference) to see if he viciously hurt or took advantage of
innocent people in the process of doing what he does. He competes ...
hard ... but so does his competition. There really haven't been any
negative personal reports or complaints. Even the people who have
worked for him and his ex wives have positive things to say about him as
a person.

===

In rebuttal I would submit the following as a prime example:

http://articles.philly.com/1991-10-04/business/25813811_1_donald-trump-taj-marvin-b-roffman

http://www.nytimes.com/1991/03/06/business/dismissed-in-trump-case-analyst-is-awarded-750000.html

The court records are sealed on many of the Donald's fiascos and
silence has been bought with others.

On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 00:20:02 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

This country needs a strong willed leader, not a wishy-washy politician
responsive to polls only.

===

I agree with you on that that but Trump is not the right guy in my
opinion. To borrow your metaphor, his wake is filled with debris,
both personal and professional. Google up the story of Marvin B.
Roffman if you want to get an unvarnished glimpse of Trump's character
and his methods.

Roffman was a securities analyst who wrote an accurate and prescient
report on the negative outlook for Trump's casino in Atlantic City.
Trump successfully pressured Roffman's employer into firing him. Is
that really the kind of guy you want leading the country?

On Wed, 19 Aug 2015 22:44:40 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote:

In article codatadg6ogu4nhr6jdfjufkm85nh9cgei@
4ax.com, says...

On Wed, 19 Aug 2015 21:02:36 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote:

Wait, you working for HRC?

===

Not at all. I've seen enough of Trump throughout his career however
to know that I don't want him in a position of national leadership. He
has the personality of an arrogant bully and no scruples what so ever.

How's that different from any other President?
He's got something else.
He's a doer. And a salesman.
You don't think he can rebuild our airports and
bridges?
And fix anything else he deems a priority?
I think he'll get more done than anyone else running.
So what if he steps on plenty of toes?
Scruples take care of themselves with our system of
government, especially Presidential scruples.
And he'll sell "the people" on most of what he wants
to do.


Maybe he should be Secretary of Transportation.

On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 00:08:31 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote:

In article Eb6dna7b6omnxUjInZ2dnUU7-
, says...


I question Wayne's assertion that Trump has no
scruples.

Depends on your definition of "scruples."
He's a birther. A birther.
So he's either insane, or doesn't believe what he's
been saying.
He'll have to own up, retract and apologize for his
birther claims to get my vote.
Otherwise I consider him insane and can't vote for
him.
The "press" should be hitting him hard on that
instead of wearing kid gloves.
I have no idea why they aren't on that like flies on
****. But they'll get there eventually.

I suspect they want to build him up more before they take him down.

He does still have the teaser of a billion in ads he will buy tho.

Has anyone explained that he will have to step away from "Trump inc"
if he is president? That doesn't just mean Ivanka runs it and talks to
him 3 times a day.

On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 10:28:06 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

Roffman was a securities analyst who wrote an accurate and prescient
report on the negative outlook for Trump's casino in Atlantic City.
Trump successfully pressured Roffman's employer into firing him. Is
that really the kind of guy you want leading the country?

It sounds like any number of presidents past and present along with a
few of the candidates ... both of the women.

In article rqOdnd5L9rNIBUjInZ2dnUU7-
, says...

On 8/20/2015 1:08 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article Eb6dna7b6omnxUjInZ2dnUU7-
, says...


I question Wayne's assertion that Trump has no
scruples.

Depends on your definition of "scruples."
He's a birther. A birther.
So he's either insane, or doesn't believe what he's
been saying.
He'll have to own up, retract and apologize for his
birther claims to get my vote.
Otherwise I consider him insane and can't vote for
him.
The "press" should be hitting him hard on that
instead of wearing kid gloves.
I have no idea why they aren't on that like flies on
****. But they'll get there eventually.



They tried. His response? "I don't want to talk about that" . Next
question?

Too bad.
I don't give a **** that he doesn't want to talk
about it. He's still a birther, until he recants.
It's inexcusable to have that on your rap sheet.
Apologize Trump. Or get lost.
I'm not sure an apology will suffice, so I can't take
a vow to forgive him if he apologizes.
I'm going to leave the "no vote" option open.
Depends on whether he treats me fairly.
I get to decide on that.