The stump speeches
 

Been watching snippets of Bernie and Hillary trying out their stump
speeches in Iowa while Trump addresses an audience in NH.

Quite a contrast in their styles, even when they are all in agreement
about some issue ... in this case the flaws in campaign financing.

Bernie delivers his objections regarding PACs and corporate influences
in campaign financing with great vigor. He's honest and passionate
in his criticism of how the system works. He almost admits that
he'll never become the POTUS but is using his candidacy to raise issues
that need to be addressed.

Addressing the same issue, Trump has an ironic and folksy delivery.
He doesn't scream and shout. He acknowledges the problem, admits that
he has participated in it and involves his audience in his comments by
pointing at people and asking *them* questions. He has a very laid
back, often humorous style. I can understand why he has become popular
with frustrated voters tired of professional politicians.

Hillary delivers the same message in that staged, loud and overbearing
style with the heavy voice inflections of old school politicians. She
shouts her message with arms and hands flaying away, not seemingly aware
of the people in the room listening to her and then nodding to herself
as if she just announced some kind of earth shattering news. Yuk.

The stump speeches
 

On 8/14/15 9:15 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
Been watching snippets of Bernie and Hillary trying out their stump
speeches in Iowa while Trump addresses an audience in NH.

Quite a contrast in their styles, even when they are all in agreement
about some issue ... in this case the flaws in campaign financing.

Bernie delivers his objections regarding PACs and corporate influences
in campaign financing with great vigor. He's honest and passionate
in his criticism of how the system works. He almost admits that
he'll never become the POTUS but is using his candidacy to raise issues
that need to be addressed.

Addressing the same issue, Trump has an ironic and folksy delivery.
He doesn't scream and shout. He acknowledges the problem, admits that
he has participated in it and involves his audience in his comments by
pointing at people and asking *them* questions. He has a very laid
back, often humorous style. I can understand why he has become popular
with frustrated voters tired of professional politicians.

Hillary delivers the same message in that staged, loud and overbearing
style with the heavy voice inflections of old school politicians. She
shouts her message with arms and hands flaying away, not seemingly aware
of the people in the room listening to her and then nodding to herself
as if she just announced some kind of earth shattering news. Yuk.

- - -

Your boy Jeb, commenting on his brother's war against the Iraqis, the
war that was so poorly planned Iraq dissolved into civil war: "I'll
tell you, taking out Saddam Hussein turned out to be a pretty good deal."

Well, it was a pretty good deal for defense contractors.

The stump speeches
 

Mr. Luddite wrote:
Been watching snippets of Bernie and Hillary trying out their stump
speeches in Iowa while Trump addresses an audience in NH.

Quite a contrast in their styles, even when they are all in agreement
about some issue ... in this case the flaws in campaign financing.

Bernie delivers his objections regarding PACs and corporate influences
in campaign financing with great vigor. He's honest and passionate
in his criticism of how the system works. He almost admits that
he'll never become the POTUS but is using his candidacy to raise
issues that need to be addressed.

Addressing the same issue, Trump has an ironic and folksy delivery.
He doesn't scream and shout. He acknowledges the problem, admits that
he has participated in it and involves his audience in his comments by
pointing at people and asking *them* questions. He has a very laid
back, often humorous style. I can understand why he has become
popular with frustrated voters tired of professional politicians.

Hillary delivers the same message in that staged, loud and overbearing
style with the heavy voice inflections of old school politicians. She
shouts her message with arms and hands flaying away, not seemingly
aware of the people in the room listening to her and then nodding to
herself as if she just announced some kind of earth shattering news. Yuk.


She may win the Democratic nomination by default but she won't win the
election.

The stump speeches
 

On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 21:15:25 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Been watching snippets of Bernie and Hillary trying out their stump
speeches in Iowa while Trump addresses an audience in NH.

I am amazed at how much free time Trump is getting, at least on CNN
but it is really everywhere.
He may actually be able to afford this campaign if it is not costing
him anything to get TV time.
I still think he has a pretty small following but I never
underestimate what people will fall for if they see it often enough on
TV.

The stump speeches
 

On 8/15/2015 1:19 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 21:15:25 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Been watching snippets of Bernie and Hillary trying out their stump
speeches in Iowa while Trump addresses an audience in NH.

I am amazed at how much free time Trump is getting, at least on CNN
but it is really everywhere.
He may actually be able to afford this campaign if it is not costing
him anything to get TV time.
I still think he has a pretty small following but I never
underestimate what people will fall for if they see it often enough on
TV.



His poll numbers indicate support by about 20 - 24 percent of the
Republican base. That's not nearly enough to become POTUS. He has
started to moderate his mouth though and is saying things intended to
appeal to Independents and some Democrats. Reagan strategy. He has
also promised to release position statements and details of what he
will do to solve problems before the next debate scheduled for September.

The stump speeches
 

On 8/14/2015 9:41 PM, Alex wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
Been watching snippets of Bernie and Hillary trying out their stump
speeches in Iowa while Trump addresses an audience in NH.

Quite a contrast in their styles, even when they are all in agreement
about some issue ... in this case the flaws in campaign financing.

Bernie delivers his objections regarding PACs and corporate influences
in campaign financing with great vigor. He's honest and passionate
in his criticism of how the system works. He almost admits that
he'll never become the POTUS but is using his candidacy to raise
issues that need to be addressed.

Addressing the same issue, Trump has an ironic and folksy delivery.
He doesn't scream and shout. He acknowledges the problem, admits that
he has participated in it and involves his audience in his comments by
pointing at people and asking *them* questions. He has a very laid
back, often humorous style. I can understand why he has become
popular with frustrated voters tired of professional politicians.

Hillary delivers the same message in that staged, loud and overbearing
style with the heavy voice inflections of old school politicians. She
shouts her message with arms and hands flaying away, not seemingly
aware of the people in the room listening to her and then nodding to
herself as if she just announced some kind of earth shattering news. Yuk.


She may win the Democratic nomination by default but she won't win the
election.


The Dems seem to be scraping the bottom of the barrel for candidates. I
wonder why they couldn't and can't do better for the American people?
They rely on the fools voting the party and not the person. Hopefully
2016 will show Americans to be smarter than they have indicated in the
past.
--

Respectfully submitted by Justan

Laugh of the day from Krause

"I'm not to blame anymore for the atmosphere in here.
I've been "born again" as a nice guy."

The stump speeches
 

On 8/15/15 5:02 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 8/15/2015 1:19 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 21:15:25 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Been watching snippets of Bernie and Hillary trying out their stump
speeches in Iowa while Trump addresses an audience in NH.

I am amazed at how much free time Trump is getting, at least on CNN
but it is really everywhere.
He may actually be able to afford this campaign if it is not costing
him anything to get TV time.
I still think he has a pretty small following but I never
underestimate what people will fall for if they see it often enough on
TV.



His poll numbers indicate support by about 20 - 24 percent of the
Republican base. That's not nearly enough to become POTUS. He has
started to moderate his mouth though and is saying things intended to
appeal to Independents and some Democrats. Reagan strategy. He has
also promised to release position statements and details of what he
will do to solve problems before the next debate scheduled for September.

Luddite switching his allegiance from Jebbie to Donnie?

The stump speeches
 

On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 05:02:45 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 8/15/2015 1:19 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 21:15:25 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Been watching snippets of Bernie and Hillary trying out their stump
speeches in Iowa while Trump addresses an audience in NH.

I am amazed at how much free time Trump is getting, at least on CNN
but it is really everywhere.
He may actually be able to afford this campaign if it is not costing
him anything to get TV time.
I still think he has a pretty small following but I never
underestimate what people will fall for if they see it often enough on
TV.



His poll numbers indicate support by about 20 - 24 percent of the
Republican base. That's not nearly enough to become POTUS. He has
started to moderate his mouth though and is saying things intended to
appeal to Independents and some Democrats. Reagan strategy. He has
also promised to release position statements and details of what he
will do to solve problems before the next debate scheduled for September.

I never underestimate the incredible stupidity of the American
electorate. In a 3 way race where 40% might win. who knows?
I do think Trump would be a disaster but could it possibly be worse
than Carter, GW or Truman?

The stump speeches
 

On 8/15/2015 12:34 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 05:02:45 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 8/15/2015 1:19 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 21:15:25 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Been watching snippets of Bernie and Hillary trying out their stump
speeches in Iowa while Trump addresses an audience in NH.

I am amazed at how much free time Trump is getting, at least on CNN
but it is really everywhere.
He may actually be able to afford this campaign if it is not costing
him anything to get TV time.
I still think he has a pretty small following but I never
underestimate what people will fall for if they see it often enough on
TV.



His poll numbers indicate support by about 20 - 24 percent of the
Republican base. That's not nearly enough to become POTUS. He has
started to moderate his mouth though and is saying things intended to
appeal to Independents and some Democrats. Reagan strategy. He has
also promised to release position statements and details of what he
will do to solve problems before the next debate scheduled for September.

I never underestimate the incredible stupidity of the American
electorate. In a 3 way race where 40% might win. who knows?
I do think Trump would be a disaster but could it possibly be worse
than Carter, GW or Truman?



It would be "different", that's for sure.

He finally explained how he'd get the Mexican government to pay for
building a 1,000 mile wall to keep illegals out. Basically it's an
ultimatum. Pay for the wall or start paying a hefty tariff on products
manufactured in Mexico and sent to the USA for sale.

Not exactly a wacky idea, frankly.

He might kill two birds with one stone. Ford is going to open another
large assembly plant in Mexico. If his tariffs applied to those auto
products as well it might cause Ford to reconsider and keep the jobs in
the USA.

The stump speeches
 

On 8/15/15 2:02 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 8/15/2015 12:34 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 05:02:45 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 8/15/2015 1:19 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 21:15:25 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Been watching snippets of Bernie and Hillary trying out their stump
speeches in Iowa while Trump addresses an audience in NH.

I am amazed at how much free time Trump is getting, at least on CNN
but it is really everywhere.
He may actually be able to afford this campaign if it is not costing
him anything to get TV time.
I still think he has a pretty small following but I never
underestimate what people will fall for if they see it often enough on
TV.



His poll numbers indicate support by about 20 - 24 percent of the
Republican base. That's not nearly enough to become POTUS. He has
started to moderate his mouth though and is saying things intended to
appeal to Independents and some Democrats. Reagan strategy. He has
also promised to release position statements and details of what he
will do to solve problems before the next debate scheduled for
September.

I never underestimate the incredible stupidity of the American
electorate. In a 3 way race where 40% might win. who knows?
I do think Trump would be a disaster but could it possibly be worse
than Carter, GW or Truman?



It would be "different", that's for sure.

He finally explained how he'd get the Mexican government to pay for
building a 1,000 mile wall to keep illegals out. Basically it's an
ultimatum. Pay for the wall or start paying a hefty tariff on products
manufactured in Mexico and sent to the USA for sale.

Not exactly a wacky idea, frankly.

He might kill two birds with one stone. Ford is going to open another
large assembly plant in Mexico. If his tariffs applied to those auto
products as well it might cause Ford to reconsider and keep the jobs in
the USA.



Really? Trump is going to single-handedly abrogate NAFTA? That should be
fun to watch.